ASM.js is a java VM like technology which compilies code in C++ and Java to javascript which then uses a JIT compiler.
This could be very usefull for things like Citrix or crappy activeX like functions being made available to mobile devices and browsers. Useful yes, but like java and activeX a big fucking security hole if not done right.
I think ASM.JS is dead out of the water as Google refuses to support it. Google wants you to use Dart and Google Chrome apps that run near native speed and require a Google ecosystem. MS wont support it either as it gets rid of the dependancy for Windows and crappy Metro apps.
I think Google is turning more into the IE of the late 1990s as it is becoming so standard now.
Multithreading, web workers, and SMP support?
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Firefox is falling quite behind even if it does support ASM.JS. After FF 3.6 and 4.0 I switched browsers. Firefox has improved recently with ram usage and bugs and is usable after version 13.
However even IE 8 supports multithreading and having a different thread for each tab. Chrome had this since 1.0. Webworkers require this and security requires this. Shit on a 6 core cpu I had for 3 years now I should not have +30 tabs using one damn cpu?!
Until Firefox helps spread this out and support modern standards and increase security by threading I do not care about ASM.js as I wont use a browser that supports it.
So, you are trying to justify a business that has staked it's very existence on a single bit of software. To do so, you make reference to walk in freezers, and kitchen ranges? Puh-LEASE!! The restaurant in your scenario hasn't tied it's very existence to one particular model of walk-in, after all. If/when the freezer fries, due to an electrical storm, or whatever, it can readily be replaced with newer hardware. Jeeez, Louise. The various cooking utensils? Those are replaced much more easily than the equipment for the freezers. What would be really, really, REALLY stupid, is for the restaurant to deify their one computer, convincing themselves that if the computer goes down, the restaurant is finished. No matter how much their software may have been tailored, they can always replace it with another set of software to keep track of inventory, sales, expenditures, wages, etc.
Mr. Smarty Pants says that if you have tied the success of your business to one particular piece of software, then you're an incompetent fool who doesn't deserve to be in business. And, that remains true whether you are a small town Mom & Pop business, or a Fortune 500 corporation.
Yes, you can indeed find idiots draped in expensive imported suits. And, you cannot justify or defend their idiocy.
Right, you can tell that to the other 999 out of the fortune 1,000 companies who do just that every day. Every business process is aliagned with each piece of software. To not do so would be to go back to paper and book keepers and filing cabinets and hirng tons of paper pushers.
It is not incompentence. It is part of business to use a particular piece of software which of course will store the data in its own format. I can't find any piece of software that guarantees it will work for 100 more years?
I do not see Windows 10 or Linux kernel 5.0 compatibility certified software anywhere?
The productivity gains by using computers is incredible even if it is not perfect and old. We wont change and like our software the way it is.
Go into a McDonalds and look behind the counter? See green screens? That is MS Xenix/SCO Xenix from 30 years ago. It still works fine. Why upgrade? To go with an expensive Windows 7 solution and guess what... 2020 is here and now that expensive app is no longer compatible as a HTML 6 applet for Metro tablets or whatever the hell will be the new standard. Problem is not solved ever by upgrading. Only temporarily extended. And paper tickets and manually putting each item into a file cabinet for asset and inventory trakcing SUCKS so not using anything doesn't make sense either.
Go play with your new computer. Business does not care. But until this solution is solved people will keep using older outdated software if it works and will keep buying software that will eventually be obsolete as it helps their business.
FYI I think anyone still using XP is incompentent... as a host OS. But Windows Server 2003 will be extended way past EOL with or without MS blessing in a VM. Computers will be tailored with custom XP drivers for decades to come too but will just not be connected to the internet. Taco Bell still buys 486 chips for its DOS based POS system. They work. XP POS and controller equipment will be served by niche hardware even without MS updates.
I wont risk my job nor the jobs of those I replace software with by buying newer versions and having our metrics fucked up. Remember customers do not care and just like new stoves which maybe better than old ones, well the old ones work and are already paid for in my original example.
For you software that is 20 years old isn't something you use but what about someone else?
No upgrading that 40 year old pic database (predates SQL) is not option. Why? Decades of data that can't be exported is in there. Upgrade and the company goes out of business as customers go elsewhere. Management MUST meet metrics and deadlines or people get fired! The risk is too great and metrics won't be met if data can't be imported.
Would you close a restaurant too because newer models of their walk ins and stoves are available too? What they have works fine and are not impressed by new GUIs and change for the sake of change. At the end of the day they only care about customers and not getting fired. A lot of business processes are mapped directly to the software purchased from the defunct company. A new one offers all risk and no benefits and new processes that workers do not know and no data customers need from a system that already works?!...meanwhile if it fails you are fired! If your users don't meet those magical metrics they are fired. Your grand children will still be using FoxPro, IE 6 & IE 8. Many just can't be upgraded at all ever.
The good news is as a geek you can play with your latest toys. Just don't be surprised if your upgrade rants meet stiff resistance at work. Life will go on for everyone else.
All browsers even including IE are more secure and improving each release. Sandboxing, process isolation per tab, excluding xss or side scripting, and hardened APIs.
unless you still run XP or worse IE 6 & 7! Not saying unhackable but hacking a browser is becoming more difficult.
I do cringe on FF 3.6 users. That is an invitation to be hacked!
I don't use IE as my main browser and haven't in 12 years.
But the targeting of browsers is so 10 years ago. They target flash, Java, and PDF. After all why target IE when you can target 100% of users instead? Comes to show to use adblock!
yes it exist for IE users now too and great for offices
What quirks are in IE 10 where it has to be rewritten?
IE 6 I can see. So buggy you need to rewrite it just to make sure bugs dont do what other browsers dont.
But IE 10 does not render different. It maybe missing some things but it is pure fud to say it is so horrible you need a 500 line CSS rewrite for formatting errors which is what you are implying. It is 2013 not 2003.
I use Avast. This version I use now is pretty good. It is free. If you put it in game/silent mode it wont ever bug you. I notice minimal performance downgrade.
The good news is most AV software is rapidly improving with the exception of McCrappy. True Norton's answer for malware was to encapsolate the whole damn hammer! Worse, may the lord have mercy on your soul if you ran it on Vista! The disk would spin to eternity with indexing and with the whole virtual disk layer encapsulated doing a scam for each damn byte.
If you must use Windows you would be insane not to run anything. It is a sad reality but with all the malware and trojans using flash, zero day exploits, and popular ad networks you can't ever be secure. Even slashdot had malware hosted ads were you would get 0wned if you came here and had flash installed:-(
oh, that figures! emc is a bunch of asswipes. what I saw during an interview there made me walk^H, no, run away from that place.
Did you see what they did to the inventor and founder of VMWare? They paid her only 6 figures with no fucking stock options..?!
When she complained and threatened to sue they fired her. They said.. but but we have her a 100k a bonus! Meanwhile the CEO of EMC got huge bonuses from vmware revenue.
What douchbags. I got angry and wished she would ahve hired a better lawyer before the acquisition. But her investors forced in and EMC took advantage. They are greedy self centered assholes.
I was typing that on a phone and didn't have time to elaborate. IE was only popular when IE 6 was light years ahead of Netscape 4.7 in 2001. Netscape 5 and 6 I did not even bother as websites would not even render correctly. Not because the IE era started on the web, but because there were more quirks in thsoe pieces of dinosaur doo than even IE itself!
People use what is best. IE no longer has the strangle hold because it is not the best thing since sliced bread anymore.
In 2001 through 2003 I used it with Mozilla, but not since Firefox.9x did I finally feel a worthy competitor came.
By 2004 it was an insecure old awkward browser but not terrible. By 2006 it was a POS HORRIBLE abomination! This is when average Joes started using alternative browsers as techies told them to use Firefox.
MSE now is going bad and I no longer use it just like I no longer use IE unless I am at work. People use what is best and yes a good 20% are sheep but the rest will find something else.
I think MSE came about just like IE (since analogy was brought up) as a better alternative as everything else sucked worse. Norton was worse than the actual damn virus! Symentec same... McCrappy just as bad. AVG would work and then corrupt your Windows installation, etc.
Now Norton is re-engineered and is a great lightweight and secure again though geeks wont touch it now. Avast is much better and we have Avirri and Panda which are ok and fairly decent for free or low cost.
MSE is... well old. It is scanner from an older era that does not have the whistles of active protection and sandboxing. Just like IE it became an abomination as it never was great (just sucked less) and became out of date where everyone is going one way, MS is staying put in technology.
IE 6 was the best browser. Don't believe me? Go google Slashdot stories on Netscape from 1999 to 2002?
IE as much as I hated MS winning was the browser I kept using as it was more standards compliant and faster browser. It supported MS CSS while no browser supported W3c CSS at all. It rendered more properly code than Netscape and even early Mozilla!
It is not that steamy bloated piece of shit known as 2007! Other labs report it as one of the best with minimal performance degration believe it or not.
It is re engineered and has a tarnished image like real player and IE which are hard to break.
The ATI driver fud is getting very old as the rage pro 128s that had the problem were discontinued over 10 years ago!
Its like soviet union russia where a lie repeated over and over again is assumed as truth. I left nvidia due to unstable drivers and buggy hardware. ATI has served me well as a result.
you just...answered why it wouldn't work. If that much garbage is actually coming into the conditioned power, it will kill the system in very little time.
You know I had a problem with BSOD occuring frequently in a large call center.
Turns out hte problem was the big UPS for the whole floor spiked things and the power strips always tried to smooth things. Over a period of time the soldier would crack and burst due to the UPS doing hard rectangular patterns rather than waves when it alternated back and forth.
Real power from the wall was cleaner than the UPS for the power strips.
There are only so many milliseconds on the clock to use on the seed. Even if you use the mic statistically silence or a clicking sound will be heard for 90% of the users so that makes that seed bad too. Network? At home there is little traffic and even at work there are the same patterns from Cisco and HP for 80% of the packets.
SGI had some interesting encryption methods that dealt with quantam mechanics on their servers and workstations. Man I miss them.
You know 6 months ago such a comment would be modded -1 and this story would have the foot icon for humor.
My have things changed. Microsoft was not that bad DRM monster we feared 12 years ago. First it turned out to be Apple in which we cheered them 10 years ago here on/.
But both companies fail far in comparison to the US government and this is something I would not have imagined in my wildest nightmares.
You are looking at this as a man and not as a woman.
It is very psychologically damaging for a woman to go through this and is as bad as a rape or someone ruining your name and a reputation complete with PST. Women have a hard time as it is and something like this showing up in a employer background check or a guy you want a date and male friends can ruin your life.
Or in other words how would you like if you went to the john at work and I snapped a photo next to you with my phone and posted it everywhere? Not illegal kind of extortion maybe?!... or would you kick my ass in?
I would hope the later if you had self respect. Yes it is illegal as this is not public by any sense of the means and did harm.
My inlaw had a nice business of real estate going before the do not call thing hit. No she does not spam people. Rather she can be sued for calling customer back or picking up the phone and calling someone who has a phone number on a for sale sign.
Hey that is cold calling sale NOPE can't have any of that can we even if the person is wanting to sell?!
Where do you draw the line?
If you owned a business and wanted to partner with another company where both you and the other company would benefit would that be illegal? After all that is advertising and sales related because you contacted them. What about calling a customer back? Is that illegal to call one? That is also advertising etc.
I agree I do not want to see erection disorder drugs when the kids watch Nickelodeon for crying out loud! But sales is part of standard business which would cease to function without it as far as I am concerned. This is complicated and of course the marketing and advertising agencies would claim it is free speech and the conservative supreme court would probably agree.
Why bother with digital currencies like Bitcoin when you have the Fed at your beck and call?
Easy Fed is a consortium of all the banks and a quasi government agency like Fanni Mae. So any extra cash printed is still owned by the treasury department even if you have a voice on a consortium of other banks.
BUT... if you mine it yourself you own all of it:-) And now you have the other banks by the balls if your standard wins. You decide, control, and set whatever the hell interest rates on the whole damn world!
Actually that is pretty damn scary and as evil as the FED is at least one can't step on the toes of everyone as they have a say even if we don't
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Actually this has nothing to do with javascript.
ASM.js is a java VM like technology which compilies code in C++ and Java to javascript which then uses a JIT compiler.
This could be very usefull for things like Citrix or crappy activeX like functions being made available to mobile devices and browsers. Useful yes, but like java and activeX a big fucking security hole if not done right.
I think ASM.JS is dead out of the water as Google refuses to support it. Google wants you to use Dart and Google Chrome apps that run near native speed and require a Google ecosystem. MS wont support it either as it gets rid of the dependancy for Windows and crappy Metro apps.
I think Google is turning more into the IE of the late 1990s as it is becoming so standard now.
Firefox is falling quite behind even if it does support ASM.JS. After FF 3.6 and 4.0 I switched browsers. Firefox has improved recently with ram usage and bugs and is usable after version 13.
However even IE 8 supports multithreading and having a different thread for each tab. Chrome had this since 1.0. Webworkers require this and security requires this. Shit on a 6 core cpu I had for 3 years now I should not have +30 tabs using one damn cpu?!
Until Firefox helps spread this out and support modern standards and increase security by threading I do not care about ASM.js as I wont use a browser that supports it.
So, you are trying to justify a business that has staked it's very existence on a single bit of software. To do so, you make reference to walk in freezers, and kitchen ranges? Puh-LEASE!! The restaurant in your scenario hasn't tied it's very existence to one particular model of walk-in, after all. If/when the freezer fries, due to an electrical storm, or whatever, it can readily be replaced with newer hardware. Jeeez, Louise. The various cooking utensils? Those are replaced much more easily than the equipment for the freezers. What would be really, really, REALLY stupid, is for the restaurant to deify their one computer, convincing themselves that if the computer goes down, the restaurant is finished. No matter how much their software may have been tailored, they can always replace it with another set of software to keep track of inventory, sales, expenditures, wages, etc.
Mr. Smarty Pants says that if you have tied the success of your business to one particular piece of software, then you're an incompetent fool who doesn't deserve to be in business. And, that remains true whether you are a small town Mom & Pop business, or a Fortune 500 corporation.
Yes, you can indeed find idiots draped in expensive imported suits. And, you cannot justify or defend their idiocy.
Right, you can tell that to the other 999 out of the fortune 1,000 companies who do just that every day. Every business process is aliagned with each piece of software. To not do so would be to go back to paper and book keepers and filing cabinets and hirng tons of paper pushers.
It is not incompentence. It is part of business to use a particular piece of software which of course will store the data in its own format. I can't find any piece of software that guarantees it will work for 100 more years?
I do not see Windows 10 or Linux kernel 5.0 compatibility certified software anywhere?
The productivity gains by using computers is incredible even if it is not perfect and old. We wont change and like our software the way it is.
Go into a McDonalds and look behind the counter? See green screens? That is MS Xenix/SCO Xenix from 30 years ago. It still works fine. Why upgrade? To go with an expensive Windows 7 solution and guess what ... 2020 is here and now that expensive app is no longer compatible as a HTML 6 applet for Metro tablets or whatever the hell will be the new standard. Problem is not solved ever by upgrading. Only temporarily extended. And paper tickets and manually putting each item into a file cabinet for asset and inventory trakcing SUCKS so not using anything doesn't make sense either.
Go play with your new computer. Business does not care. But until this solution is solved people will keep using older outdated software if it works and will keep buying software that will eventually be obsolete as it helps their business.
FYI I think anyone still using XP is incompentent ... as a host OS. But Windows Server 2003 will be extended way past EOL with or without MS blessing in a VM. Computers will be tailored with custom XP drivers for decades to come too but will just not be connected to the internet. Taco Bell still buys 486 chips for its DOS based POS system. They work. XP POS and controller equipment will be served by niche hardware even without MS updates.
I wont risk my job nor the jobs of those I replace software with by buying newer versions and having our metrics fucked up. Remember customers do not care and just like new stoves which maybe better than old ones, well the old ones work and are already paid for in my original example.
Ok Mr. Smarty Pants.
For you software that is 20 years old isn't something you use but what about someone else?
No upgrading that 40 year old pic database (predates SQL) is not option. Why? Decades of data that can't be exported is in there. Upgrade and the company goes out of business as customers go elsewhere. Management MUST meet metrics and deadlines or people get fired! The risk is too great and metrics won't be met if data can't be imported.
Would you close a restaurant too because newer models of their walk ins and stoves are available too? What they have works fine and are not impressed by new GUIs and change for the sake of change. At the end of the day they only care about customers and not getting fired. A lot of business processes are mapped directly to the software purchased from the defunct company. A new one offers all risk and no benefits and new processes that workers do not know and no data customers need from a system that already works?! ...meanwhile if it fails you are fired! If your users don't meet those magical metrics they are fired. Your grand children will still be using FoxPro, IE 6 & IE 8. Many just can't be upgraded at all ever.
The good news is as a geek you can play with your latest toys. Just don't be surprised if your upgrade rants meet stiff resistance at work. Life will go on for everyone else.
Oh please.
Most users don't want their drives go down to 5 megs per second. Trying to justify your OS doesn't cut it.
And supports vectors of ranges to Trim. Does it support this spec yet?
Come on.
All browsers even including IE are more secure and improving each release. Sandboxing, process isolation per tab, excluding xss or side scripting, and hardened APIs.
unless you still run XP or worse IE 6 & 7! Not saying unhackable but hacking a browser is becoming more difficult.
I do cringe on FF 3.6 users. That is an invitation to be hacked!
I don't use IE as my main browser and haven't in 12 years.
But the targeting of browsers is so 10 years ago. They target flash, Java, and PDF. After all why target IE when you can target 100% of users instead? Comes to show to use adblock!
yes it exist for IE users now too and great for offices
What quirks are in IE 10 where it has to be rewritten?
IE 6 I can see. So buggy you need to rewrite it just to make sure bugs dont do what other browsers dont.
But IE 10 does not render different. It maybe missing some things but it is pure fud to say it is so horrible you need a 500 line CSS rewrite for formatting errors which is what you are implying. It is 2013 not 2003.
In the old days the scanner would still fucking run and take 70% cpu even after uninstallation?!
A re-image was what I had to do and this annoying thing came with adobe flash and was impossible to get rid off. UGH!
I use Avast. This version I use now is pretty good. It is free. If you put it in game/silent mode it wont ever bug you. I notice minimal performance downgrade.
The good news is most AV software is rapidly improving with the exception of McCrappy. True Norton's answer for malware was to encapsolate the whole damn hammer! Worse, may the lord have mercy on your soul if you ran it on Vista! The disk would spin to eternity with indexing and with the whole virtual disk layer encapsulated doing a scam for each damn byte.
If you must use Windows you would be insane not to run anything. It is a sad reality but with all the malware and trojans using flash, zero day exploits, and popular ad networks you can't ever be secure. Even slashdot had malware hosted ads were you would get 0wned if you came here and had flash installed :-(
oh, that figures! emc is a bunch of asswipes. what I saw during an interview there made me walk^H, no, run away from that place.
Did you see what they did to the inventor and founder of VMWare? They paid her only 6 figures with no fucking stock options..?!
When she complained and threatened to sue they fired her. They said .. but but we have her a 100k a bonus! Meanwhile the CEO of EMC got huge bonuses from vmware revenue.
What douchbags. I got angry and wished she would ahve hired a better lawyer before the acquisition. But her investors forced in and EMC took advantage. They are greedy self centered assholes.
I was typing that on a phone and didn't have time to elaborate. IE was only popular when IE 6 was light years ahead of Netscape 4.7 in 2001. Netscape 5 and 6 I did not even bother as websites would not even render correctly. Not because the IE era started on the web, but because there were more quirks in thsoe pieces of dinosaur doo than even IE itself!
People use what is best. IE no longer has the strangle hold because it is not the best thing since sliced bread anymore.
In 2001 through 2003 I used it with Mozilla, but not since Firefox .9x did I finally feel a worthy competitor came.
By 2004 it was an insecure old awkward browser but not terrible. By 2006 it was a POS HORRIBLE abomination! This is when average Joes started using alternative browsers as techies told them to use Firefox.
MSE now is going bad and I no longer use it just like I no longer use IE unless I am at work. People use what is best and yes a good 20% are sheep but the rest will find something else.
I think MSE came about just like IE (since analogy was brought up) as a better alternative as everything else sucked worse. Norton was worse than the actual damn virus! Symentec same ... McCrappy just as bad. AVG would work and then corrupt your Windows installation, etc.
Now Norton is re-engineered and is a great lightweight and secure again though geeks wont touch it now. Avast is much better and we have Avirri and Panda which are ok and fairly decent for free or low cost.
MSE is ... well old. It is scanner from an older era that does not have the whistles of active protection and sandboxing. Just like IE it became an abomination as it never was great (just sucked less) and became out of date where everyone is going one way, MS is staying put in technology.
IE 6 was the best browser. Don't believe me? Go google Slashdot stories on Netscape from 1999 to 2002?
IE as much as I hated MS winning was the browser I kept using as it was more standards compliant and faster browser. It supported MS CSS while no browser supported W3c CSS at all. It rendered more properly code than Netscape and even early Mozilla!
Or use avast?
Good detection and minimal overhead.
It is not that steamy bloated piece of shit known as 2007! Other labs report it as one of the best with minimal performance degration believe it or not.
It is re engineered and has a tarnished image like real player and IE which are hard to break.
Google it?
It was solved last March
That was fixed last March.
The ATI driver fud is getting very old as the rage pro 128s that had the problem were discontinued over 10 years ago!
Its like soviet union russia where a lie repeated over and over again is assumed as truth. I left nvidia due to unstable drivers and buggy hardware. ATI has served me well as a result.
you just...answered why it wouldn't work. If that much garbage is actually coming into the conditioned power, it will kill the system in very little time.
You know I had a problem with BSOD occuring frequently in a large call center.
Turns out hte problem was the big UPS for the whole floor spiked things and the power strips always tried to smooth things. Over a period of time the soldier would crack and burst due to the UPS doing hard rectangular patterns rather than waves when it alternated back and forth.
Real power from the wall was cleaner than the UPS for the power strips.
Not to mention insecure too.
There are only so many milliseconds on the clock to use on the seed. Even if you use the mic statistically silence or a clicking sound will be heard for 90% of the users so that makes that seed bad too. Network? At home there is little traffic and even at work there are the same patterns from Cisco and HP for 80% of the packets.
SGI had some interesting encryption methods that dealt with quantam mechanics on their servers and workstations. Man I miss them.
What kind of world do we live in when we can't even trust our own damn hardware! Seriously ...
You know 6 months ago such a comment would be modded -1 and this story would have the foot icon for humor.
My have things changed. Microsoft was not that bad DRM monster we feared 12 years ago. First it turned out to be Apple in which we cheered them 10 years ago here on /.
But both companies fail far in comparison to the US government and this is something I would not have imagined in my wildest nightmares.
You are looking at this as a man and not as a woman.
It is very psychologically damaging for a woman to go through this and is as bad as a rape or someone ruining your name and a reputation complete with PST. Women have a hard time as it is and something like this showing up in a employer background check or a guy you want a date and male friends can ruin your life.
Or in other words how would you like if you went to the john at work and I snapped a photo next to you with my phone and posted it everywhere? Not illegal kind of extortion maybe?! ... or would you kick my ass in?
I would hope the later if you had self respect. Yes it is illegal as this is not public by any sense of the means and did harm.
This guy deserves what he gets.
More complicated then it sounds.
My inlaw had a nice business of real estate going before the do not call thing hit. No she does not spam people. Rather she can be sued for calling customer back or picking up the phone and calling someone who has a phone number on a for sale sign.
Hey that is cold calling sale NOPE can't have any of that can we even if the person is wanting to sell?!
Where do you draw the line?
If you owned a business and wanted to partner with another company where both you and the other company would benefit would that be illegal? After all that is advertising and sales related because you contacted them. What about calling a customer back? Is that illegal to call one? That is also advertising etc.
I agree I do not want to see erection disorder drugs when the kids watch Nickelodeon for crying out loud! But sales is part of standard business which would cease to function without it as far as I am concerned. This is complicated and of course the marketing and advertising agencies would claim it is free speech and the conservative supreme court would probably agree.
Why bother with digital currencies like Bitcoin when you have the Fed at your beck and call?
Easy Fed is a consortium of all the banks and a quasi government agency like Fanni Mae. So any extra cash printed is still owned by the treasury department even if you have a voice on a consortium of other banks.
BUT ... if you mine it yourself you own all of it :-) And now you have the other banks by the balls if your standard wins. You decide, control, and set whatever the hell interest rates on the whole damn world!
Actually that is pretty damn scary and as evil as the FED is at least one can't step on the toes of everyone as they have a say even if we don't