I find using Office without the ribbon unusable. I can't find where anything is at now.
Does that mean menus are inferior? No. It means I got used to a different way of doing them.
Now if you want to argue that I am stupid and do not know how to use a menu I would like to point out I have used Office since the 3.1 days and knew it fairly well before 2008 when my brain still reserved these things in memory as it was important to remember. I also remember hating the hiding function in office 2003 where you had to hid the the arrow to get to anything. I always disabled it after a fresh install back then.
But the fact of the matter is I can preview changes, make graphical effects and titles, and get to seldomly used functions in a fraction of the time now! Statistics back me up on this too as 80% of users only used 40% of the functions and kept requesting things Office has already been doing for years.
Do not be offended when I say it is hard to change sometimes, as even people with great computer skills can get stuck with a particular gui like Firefox 3.x for years as it has 100 security exploits at this stage. It took a week for me to get someone productivity with the ribbon. After seeing how I did not need a mouse with the newer keyboard shortcuts which navigate the ribbon with smart tags and I was in bliss.
Today I am happy feel Office 2010 is the best release.
What is the benefit of cloud-based office software? I understand it allows the service provider to demand rent indefinitely. What benefit does it provide to the end-user?
Easy. I can view my docs anywhere. From my phone, home pc, work pc, whatever. Dropbox has some of this but office file compatibility is a problem for example when it comes to spreadsheets.
Second, it is a damn pain in the ass to setup software to be updated and pushed on thousands of PCs in a work envrionment. With this you push a group policy for a hyperlink. Sovled as the website or intranet site takes care of everything. No hunting down damn Outlook archive folders when upgrading a PC. If a company wants something confidential they flag it and it instantly is unavailable elsewhere. On the cloud means it wont leave on flash drivers either.
Posting that here is like someone on Moveon.org hyperlinking an article from www.redstateblog.com (or whatever the hell the right wing version is).
I read Neowin as well. I like balance.
I notice they have things like Windows Server 2012 R2 launch details that slashdot feels is not important. But if it is Linux related, I feel a link from there is like reading a link here about a non-baised spin about IE and Windows on slashdot if you know what I mean?
I wonder if those statistics include governments that tried to use it but went back due to users hating change? Or used an ancient version of OpenOffice that was not as compatible as MS Office?
As much as I love free software I admit I paid a lot of money for Office. It is the only thing that I know that works when making critical documents that must look write and be editable. No replacement for Outlook as well sadly (I HATE OUTLOOK). I feel it is kind of like the old Gimp vs Photoshop debate all over every article comes out.
People need a reason for change. Being just as good wont cut it. Better different and better will. Windows CE and blackberry were untouchable in 2007... the iphone redefined the standards and crippled both. No one could stop IE. It wasn't until Firefox was freaking fast and secure before anyone wanted to leave though Mozilla did exist prior. I think making a better LibreOffice wont help as clouds and having your documents anytime and anywhere are taking over as evident with Google Docs and Office 365. An open source web based office suite that is cloud based and works anywhere might be where the FOSS can really shine and give somethign different.
Well with 365 at least the Windows tie is broken as any modern browser can be used on any device or platform.
But one less tie in is better than 2 I guess. I shudder if Mozilla failed then we would have 3 ties as well with IE 6!
Maybe an opensource cloud office suite that anyone can run on any webserver is what geeks should be working on next? The cloud is gaining traction and my fear is if we just sit around with Libreoffice we will miss this and the cloud will have MS lockin all over with skydrive too.
Why my grandparent post was a joke poking fun at WinXP users I have to say 10 years ago I did my first bot containment at a computer lab at my college it was utilizing port 666 and I found it by using netstat -an. Port firewalling is rather ineffective, but that does not mean the malware uses just the browser to get inside.
Most malware today does not use flaws in IE 6 anymore. Only Chinese even use that browser. Modern browsers including IE have sandbox protection making such an exploit difficult to perform as flaws are quickly patched in Firefox, Chrome, and even IE if Windows Update is enabled.
Most exploits use PDF, java, and flash to get in. They do not use ports 80 or 443. Usually the applet loads then it uses a different port number to download the payload as AV scanners today look at those 2 ports like a hawk!
I consider Vista/Windows 7 practically a new OS from NT. NT ended at XP depending on whom you talk too.
Millions of lines of code were removed and layers deleted according to a Microsoft engineer. The drivers are different. Paging is different. Security has changed 50% as separation of privileges in addition to the NT/VMS ACLS, recovery from a crash is rewritten, NDIS is different, it has twice as many lines of code.
IE too no longer sucks. IE 10/11 is a different browser than IE 6. Not gradual improvements just like Firefox != netscape. It uses the same API but it has been rewritten. Especially Firefox compared to Mozilla.
Rewritting from scratch saved Windows in my opinion! Windows 7 is such an amazing improvement over XP and is much more secure and modern. Yes the gui not everyone is a fan of needs work and Vista was horribly untuned and untested when it came out! Kernel wise Windows 8.0 and 8.1 are very light and run on low end phones where Android slows down very well. Tell me how you could do this with an NT kernel?
WindowsCE was a Windows 3.1 hodgepod mess in comparison.
A rewrite can be a great thing and necessary. I am glad Apple did not update MacOS for example and used Next instead.
Indeed. I see several possible outcomes: - This never reaches the quality level of iptables - It becomes fast and stable enough to use, but nobody cares - It replaces iptables in the distant future
Looks like conservatism is being the new norm as the pendulum swings the other direction as people are no longer used to ever upgrading they think it is a wrong thing to do. Such comments 12 years ago would be laughed at here on slashdot just like if you mentioned XP is still hot and people 12 years into the future will be mentioning you can take XP off my cold dead hands on slashdot will be modded + 5! People would think you are crazy.
Why fix what is not broken?
Why leave IE 6. It works just fine. Why use a car? Horses work just fine. The wheel worked great! Why improve it with spokes for other things etc? I am learning IE 8 css this weekend because my future customers hold onto it because of IT people similiar to yourself do not want to change. No this is not a personal attack on you or anything. It is just stupid as I can't do HTML 5 or CSS 3 and since I wont then why should they change etc?
I am sure Redhat 7/Cent OS 7 will still support your IPtables for years to come. If Linux IPtables are so great then why do Juniper and other switches use BSD and ipf? BSD since the 80s have been known to be ahead and network engineers prefer it. Opensource also means if someone changes something for the sake of change a fork will happen. Look at Mate and Cinnamon as an example of what happened to Gnome 3?
If IPtables are teh best thing ever it will continue to be used for many years. If not then the world needs to move on and the market will decide. I think IT needs more respect and it will be earned if we stop caving in to non technical accountants and provide value and upgrade. Otherwise things will stay still and then the view of costs will come in when the CFO needs to raise the share price yet again for a bonus. Guess whose department and soon job will be cut? Yours! After all a guy in India with Windows Remote desktop can do your job as software never needs to be upgraded. Just maintained for pennies right?
We kids have no idea what its like upgrading thousands of computers at work because unlike you, grandpa, we use [Ansible / Salt / Chef / CFEngine / Puppet]. And making changes to thousands and thousands of machines takes seconds to send out to all of them. A bit more time to verify, and any that are stuck can be rebuilt from scratch in a few more moments without even worrying about why it didn't work the first time.
Second point: why would you need some kind of interface to your firewall rules. Its a text file. Learn the syntax and keep in in version control. Then have the back end of version control push the change out through the programs that I just mentioned.
You're getting old. Its probably time to retire.
Whoosh... read a little below on the comments section:-)
Perhaps think of something else released October 2001 that people will fight you to the death and need counseling at the mere thought of changing and replace that with 2.4 in my post.:-)... afterwards you get to see something unfortunately familiar in the comment sections in zdnet.com and wired.com sadly. I mean by the hundreds of rapid angry users of that 2001 based product who feel entitled and have no idea about what security is.
Yes it was a lame sense of sarcasm that I thought would be appropriate at those who do not like change very much to make some fun how this other product it is fashionable even in slashdot to oppose change.
Kernel 2.4 works fine for my needs. You kids today have no idea what it is like upgrading thousands of computers at work! Especially when you have to justify to a beancounter to upgrade an IP table that has worked fine since October 2001 and already works. It is an enterprise standard that works so why fix what isn't broken?
Last thing I need is another confusing IP table interface designed for teenagers.
With a modern AV I should be just fine if I do not go to questionable websites.
Because those are not in the same market. With vb and vmware workstation I can run whole freaking networks and domains. I can test software pushes and group policy changes. I can create host only clients that only talk to my virtual router to simulate a real business network! I can test vender updates with a multitude of systems and unix scripts on my own network.
Seriously not to sound flamebaitish, but I consider NeoCon and Teaparty folks fucking dangerous and religious fundamentalists blinded by ideology more than common sense which are about to destroy America, more than Jerry Falwell anyday!
When you believe that no taxes bring in more revenue and are so far to the right that you ignore 98% of economists that defaulting the government is no big deal because you want to watch americans die due to not having healthcare, that you feel no taxes and no government will magically create 100% employment where everyone is making $100,000 a year then you are fucking crazy!... point was exgeration... but only slightly in the past paragraph.
I am more afraid of a complete collaspe of the USA and the dollar more than Pat Robertson outlawing evolution in classrooms any day!
A definition of a terrorist is using act to force ones way to destroy others. Tea part in my opinion is no different than OBL. Only difference is one is using financial collapse weapons instead of a bomb to ones chest.
Because Java 7 is a buggy piece of crap. Java 6 has less bugs patched and works better. I do not want to upgrade and will stay with Java 6 because it works just fine for my needs thank you very much. I have disabled Java in my browsers I may add.
But if Oracle rushed Java 7 and craeted many bugs and a new rushed verison from a diferent set of developers than java 6. It really shows.
Shitty security protocols are one of them, if your obsolete software can't cope with modern encryption, it is crap and should be replaced.
Yeah try telling that to a boss who gets a bonus by keeping IE 6 and keeping you putting out fires all day instead of adaquite resources to do anything but putting out fires with viruses from IE 6 and java 5 infections. After all upgrading would take away his bonus and would not raise the share price next quarter.... end rant.
Stuff that breaks IE 6/8 is considered broken, and broken is considered working with this same crowd too. If you talk about open standards he says, Tim why does this not work anymore. It worked just fine before you messed with it! Go fix it NOW!... really end rant.
I still have IE 8 and java 6 on my home system because I am working on a small business that will cater to these customers. HTML 5 is 2020s technology when Windows 7 goes EOL. Point being is once something is in place it will take an act of God to change anything as it is now stable so do not touch it. The pendulumn has swung and is evident by the last XP is going EOL story on slashdot. People stated "You CAN PRY XP OFF MY DEAD HANDS!" being modded to +5 as 90% of all IT departments have a do not mess iwth this policy compared to 1999 where we upgraded every 3 years as part of the job.
It will sadly take new paradigms or another code red mass infection to change this attitude of IT only being a cost.
It is terrible solution for all but mathematical nerds. We need styles and a WYSIWYG editor so what is on the screen matches what is printed out and what someone else has on the screen. Sorry but typing codes and not seeing what they do until you then render it is stupid.
Similar enough where they open in Word 2007 and the margins are not all over the place, Tables are not in the same place and it looks like a retard with an IQ of 70 who doesn't even know how to fucking use a computer ready you mean?
Until then I still with Office 2010 and a PDF version. Even with that I hear the client didn't like your resume and you were rejected etc.
I do XP to Windows 7 migrations so they have 2003 and I now have VMWare Workstation $300 just for the ability to edit my fucking resume in Word 2003. Absolutely ridiculous.
But if I keep the same version of Word as my employer then I can get work done at home.
Lets hope if.PDF replaces it as MS becomes weaker and weaker in its power to set standards so that we can have a choice.
Word 2010 is actually ok and doesn't exhibit the bugs. In another comment to the same grandparent I mention Word to IE. Each version gets better but some margins I have are for specific bugs in 2003 and are misformatted in later versions as I spent 70% of my time fight word with indentations rather than content 10 years etc.
When I got 2010 the first thing I did was create another resume from scratch. Problem went away. Word is the shittiest of all MS Office including Outlook in my opinion which is not saying much.
I would use an alternative if one existed and if editable PDFs became more mainstream. In another 10 years we may get there. Apple's office suite comes close but I need a mac unfortunately.
I usually get modded -1 with a ton of replies saying how wrong I am or that the problem is the employer and myself for not having the skills to not go that route etc.
Just buy her Word. For home it is fairly cheap and well worth the cost. If you hate MS get her a mac with the mac version of it.
MS Word 2010 doesn't suck as much.
Sadly, this meritocracy is what modern MS is from IE to Windows. But it is appreciated. My issues with Word 2003 and earlier and a little bit is the shit ton of fucking formatting and margin bugs. May God have mercy on your soul when you have bullets in tables for a fancy resume. I spend 70% of my time on my older resume just fighting Word with formatting rather than creating content.
It was light writing a page for IE 6. infact some of the same formatting bugs in IE 6 are identical in Word?! hmm... wasn't MS trying to lobby the W3C to use.docs instead of HTML last century? 2010 has fixed most if not all of this thankfully. Wordperfect never had this problem.
If you want to use that insecure Adobe shit then yes.
Sadly I finally gave up on Fixit PDF this summer and downgraded to Adobe. Too many PHBs want things like contract time card sigs and editing and only Adobe had the DRM necessary to do this.
Another issue is we have IE 6 back again in style.
Its name this decade is called webkit.. If the web server detects it is a mobile device it outputs Webkit specific (chrome/Safari) CSS that is not W3C compliant.
Complain and the answer is webkit owns 95% of the market so go fsck yourself and buy a droid or iphone like everyone else. Kind of like we do not support Netscape anymore in 2003 even though you used Konsqueror or Firefox.4.
Drives me nuts to see the same developers who praise webkit and use non W3C compliant html5test.com to base their opinions then go out and bash IE 6 and who write code on the mobile end that wont work Windows Phone/Windows 8 either.
You have lazy fucking ass web developers who write proprietary non W3C compliant -webkit code to thank. Probably the same ones who bash IE 6 for doing the same and made MS specific CSS back in the day too.
If the web server detects mobile it outputs only webkit CSS as webkit owns 95% of the market so why support anything else?
I am tempted to switch to Firefox from Chrome as I feel I am part of the problem and would be what hte world will look like in the future if Chrome won. Just like 2003 when you received Netscape not supported when you used any browser but IE 6 on 40% of the web.
The Libyan government is the most liberal and pro western friendly government in the middle east. I do not know where you get this?... you do know Ghadaffi is dead right and the rebels won?
When you are a CEO or CIO where you can make such deciscions then thats great!
In the real world if you are neither then you have a choice. Either use what they have or get another job! I work for them and not the other way around. In IT you support and use the products given or live with your parents unemployed. There are many who are desperate and under worked who would jump at an opportunity at my job. I dont make the rules. Just state what they are.
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I find using Office without the ribbon unusable. I can't find where anything is at now.
Does that mean menus are inferior? No. It means I got used to a different way of doing them.
Now if you want to argue that I am stupid and do not know how to use a menu I would like to point out I have used Office since the 3.1 days and knew it fairly well before 2008 when my brain still reserved these things in memory as it was important to remember. I also remember hating the hiding function in office 2003 where you had to hid the the arrow to get to anything. I always disabled it after a fresh install back then.
But the fact of the matter is I can preview changes, make graphical effects and titles, and get to seldomly used functions in a fraction of the time now! Statistics back me up on this too as 80% of users only used 40% of the functions and kept requesting things Office has already been doing for years.
Do not be offended when I say it is hard to change sometimes, as even people with great computer skills can get stuck with a particular gui like Firefox 3.x for years as it has 100 security exploits at this stage. It took a week for me to get someone productivity with the ribbon. After seeing how I did not need a mouse with the newer keyboard shortcuts which navigate the ribbon with smart tags and I was in bliss.
Today I am happy feel Office 2010 is the best release.
What is the benefit of cloud-based office software? I understand it allows the service provider to demand rent indefinitely. What benefit does it provide to the end-user?
Easy. I can view my docs anywhere. From my phone, home pc, work pc, whatever. Dropbox has some of this but office file compatibility is a problem for example when it comes to spreadsheets.
Second, it is a damn pain in the ass to setup software to be updated and pushed on thousands of PCs in a work envrionment. With this you push a group policy for a hyperlink. Sovled as the website or intranet site takes care of everything. No hunting down damn Outlook archive folders when upgrading a PC. If a company wants something confidential they flag it and it instantly is unavailable elsewhere. On the cloud means it wont leave on flash drivers either.
Posting that here is like someone on Moveon.org hyperlinking an article from www.redstateblog.com (or whatever the hell the right wing version is).
I read Neowin as well. I like balance.
I notice they have things like Windows Server 2012 R2 launch details that slashdot feels is not important. But if it is Linux related, I feel a link from there is like reading a link here about a non-baised spin about IE and Windows on slashdot if you know what I mean?
I wonder if those statistics include governments that tried to use it but went back due to users hating change? Or used an ancient version of OpenOffice that was not as compatible as MS Office?
As much as I love free software I admit I paid a lot of money for Office. It is the only thing that I know that works when making critical documents that must look write and be editable. No replacement for Outlook as well sadly (I HATE OUTLOOK). I feel it is kind of like the old Gimp vs Photoshop debate all over every article comes out.
People need a reason for change. Being just as good wont cut it. Better different and better will. Windows CE and blackberry were untouchable in 2007 ... the iphone redefined the standards and crippled both. No one could stop IE. It wasn't until Firefox was freaking fast and secure before anyone wanted to leave though Mozilla did exist prior. I think making a better LibreOffice wont help as clouds and having your documents anytime and anywhere are taking over as evident with Google Docs and Office 365. An open source web based office suite that is cloud based and works anywhere might be where the FOSS can really shine and give somethign different.
Well with 365 at least the Windows tie is broken as any modern browser can be used on any device or platform.
But one less tie in is better than 2 I guess. I shudder if Mozilla failed then we would have 3 ties as well with IE 6!
Maybe an opensource cloud office suite that anyone can run on any webserver is what geeks should be working on next? The cloud is gaining traction and my fear is if we just sit around with Libreoffice we will miss this and the cloud will have MS lockin all over with skydrive too.
Any ones thoughts?
Wow
Why my grandparent post was a joke poking fun at WinXP users I have to say 10 years ago I did my first bot containment at a computer lab at my college it was utilizing port 666 and I found it by using netstat -an. Port firewalling is rather ineffective, but that does not mean the malware uses just the browser to get inside.
Most malware today does not use flaws in IE 6 anymore. Only Chinese even use that browser. Modern browsers including IE have sandbox protection making such an exploit difficult to perform as flaws are quickly patched in Firefox, Chrome, and even IE if Windows Update is enabled.
Most exploits use PDF, java, and flash to get in. They do not use ports 80 or 443. Usually the applet loads then it uses a different port number to download the payload as AV scanners today look at those 2 ports like a hawk!
I consider Vista/Windows 7 practically a new OS from NT. NT ended at XP depending on whom you talk too.
Millions of lines of code were removed and layers deleted according to a Microsoft engineer. The drivers are different. Paging is different. Security has changed 50% as separation of privileges in addition to the NT/VMS ACLS, recovery from a crash is rewritten, NDIS is different, it has twice as many lines of code.
IE too no longer sucks. IE 10/11 is a different browser than IE 6. Not gradual improvements just like Firefox != netscape. It uses the same API but it has been rewritten. Especially Firefox compared to Mozilla.
Rewritting from scratch saved Windows in my opinion! Windows 7 is such an amazing improvement over XP and is much more secure and modern. Yes the gui not everyone is a fan of needs work and Vista was horribly untuned and untested when it came out! Kernel wise Windows 8.0 and 8.1 are very light and run on low end phones where Android slows down very well. Tell me how you could do this with an NT kernel?
WindowsCE was a Windows 3.1 hodgepod mess in comparison.
A rewrite can be a great thing and necessary. I am glad Apple did not update MacOS for example and used Next instead.
Indeed. I see several possible outcomes:
- This never reaches the quality level of iptables
- It becomes fast and stable enough to use, but nobody cares
- It replaces iptables in the distant future
Iptables is not broken. Do not fix it.
Sigh
You know I was joking and making fun of XP users when I wrote this about an hour ago.
Looks like conservatism is being the new norm as the pendulum swings the other direction as people are no longer used to ever upgrading they think it is a wrong thing to do. Such comments 12 years ago would be laughed at here on slashdot just like if you mentioned XP is still hot and people 12 years into the future will be mentioning you can take XP off my cold dead hands on slashdot will be modded + 5! People would think you are crazy.
Why fix what is not broken?
Why leave IE 6. It works just fine. Why use a car? Horses work just fine. The wheel worked great! Why improve it with spokes for other things etc? I am learning IE 8 css this weekend because my future customers hold onto it because of IT people similiar to yourself do not want to change. No this is not a personal attack on you or anything. It is just stupid as I can't do HTML 5 or CSS 3 and since I wont then why should they change etc?
I am sure Redhat 7/Cent OS 7 will still support your IPtables for years to come. If Linux IPtables are so great then why do Juniper and other switches use BSD and ipf? BSD since the 80s have been known to be ahead and network engineers prefer it. Opensource also means if someone changes something for the sake of change a fork will happen. Look at Mate and Cinnamon as an example of what happened to Gnome 3?
If IPtables are teh best thing ever it will continue to be used for many years. If not then the world needs to move on and the market will decide. I think IT needs more respect and it will be earned if we stop caving in to non technical accountants and provide value and upgrade. Otherwise things will stay still and then the view of costs will come in when the CFO needs to raise the share price yet again for a bonus. Guess whose department and soon job will be cut? Yours! After all a guy in India with Windows Remote desktop can do your job as software never needs to be upgraded. Just maintained for pennies right?
We kids have no idea what its like upgrading thousands of computers at work because unlike you, grandpa, we use [Ansible / Salt / Chef / CFEngine / Puppet]. And making changes to thousands and thousands of machines takes seconds to send out to all of them. A bit more time to verify, and any that are stuck can be rebuilt from scratch in a few more moments without even worrying about why it didn't work the first time.
Second point: why would you need some kind of interface to your firewall rules. Its a text file. Learn the syntax and keep in in version control. Then have the back end of version control push the change out through the programs that I just mentioned.
You're getting old. Its probably time to retire.
Whoosh ... read a little below on the comments section :-)
Ahh
Perhaps think of something else released October 2001 that people will fight you to the death and need counseling at the mere thought of changing and replace that with 2.4 in my post. :-) ... afterwards you get to see something unfortunately familiar in the comment sections in zdnet.com and wired.com sadly. I mean by the hundreds of rapid angry users of that 2001 based product who feel entitled and have no idea about what security is.
Yes it was a lame sense of sarcasm that I thought would be appropriate at those who do not like change very much to make some fun how this other product it is fashionable even in slashdot to oppose change.
IPChains work just fine thank you very much!
Kernel 2.4 works fine for my needs. You kids today have no idea what it is like upgrading thousands of computers at work! Especially when you have to justify to a beancounter to upgrade an IP table that has worked fine since October 2001 and already works. It is an enterprise standard that works so why fix what isn't broken?
Last thing I need is another confusing IP table interface designed for teenagers.
With a modern AV I should be just fine if I do not go to questionable websites.
Because those are not in the same market. With vb and vmware workstation I can run whole freaking networks and domains. I can test software pushes and group policy changes. I can create host only clients that only talk to my virtual router to simulate a real business network! I can test vender updates with a multitude of systems and unix scripts on my own network.
Can these do these things? Or run a single VM?
Seriously not to sound flamebaitish, but I consider NeoCon and Teaparty folks fucking dangerous and religious fundamentalists blinded by ideology more than common sense which are about to destroy America, more than Jerry Falwell anyday!
When you believe that no taxes bring in more revenue and are so far to the right that you ignore 98% of economists that defaulting the government is no big deal because you want to watch americans die due to not having healthcare, that you feel no taxes and no government will magically create 100% employment where everyone is making $100,000 a year then you are fucking crazy! ... point was exgeration ... but only slightly in the past paragraph.
I am more afraid of a complete collaspe of the USA and the dollar more than Pat Robertson outlawing evolution in classrooms any day!
A definition of a terrorist is using act to force ones way to destroy others. Tea part in my opinion is no different than OBL. Only difference is one is using financial collapse weapons instead of a bomb to ones chest.
Because Java 7 is a buggy piece of crap. Java 6 has less bugs patched and works better. I do not want to upgrade and will stay with Java 6 because it works just fine for my needs thank you very much. I have disabled Java in my browsers I may add.
But if Oracle rushed Java 7 and craeted many bugs and a new rushed verison from a diferent set of developers than java 6. It really shows.
Shitty security protocols are one of them, if your obsolete software can't cope with modern encryption, it is crap and should be replaced.
Yeah try telling that to a boss who gets a bonus by keeping IE 6 and keeping you putting out fires all day instead of adaquite resources to do anything but putting out fires with viruses from IE 6 and java 5 infections. After all upgrading would take away his bonus and would not raise the share price next quarter. ... end rant.
Stuff that breaks IE 6/8 is considered broken, and broken is considered working with this same crowd too. If you talk about open standards he says, Tim why does this not work anymore. It worked just fine before you messed with it! Go fix it NOW! ... really end rant.
I still have IE 8 and java 6 on my home system because I am working on a small business that will cater to these customers. HTML 5 is 2020s technology when Windows 7 goes EOL. Point being is once something is in place it will take an act of God to change anything as it is now stable so do not touch it. The pendulumn has swung and is evident by the last XP is going EOL story on slashdot. People stated "You CAN PRY XP OFF MY DEAD HANDS!" being modded to +5 as 90% of all IT departments have a do not mess iwth this policy compared to 1999 where we upgraded every 3 years as part of the job.
It will sadly take new paradigms or another code red mass infection to change this attitude of IT only being a cost.
Stop the damn LaTeX already!
It is terrible solution for all but mathematical nerds. We need styles and a WYSIWYG editor so what is on the screen matches what is printed out and what someone else has on the screen. Sorry but typing codes and not seeing what they do until you then render it is stupid.
Similar enough where they open in Word 2007 and the margins are not all over the place, Tables are not in the same place and it looks like a retard with an IQ of 70 who doesn't even know how to fucking use a computer ready you mean?
Until then I still with Office 2010 and a PDF version. Even with that I hear the client didn't like your resume and you were rejected etc.
I do XP to Windows 7 migrations so they have 2003 and I now have VMWare Workstation $300 just for the ability to edit my fucking resume in Word 2003. Absolutely ridiculous.
But if I keep the same version of Word as my employer then I can get work done at home.
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Lets hope if .PDF replaces it as MS becomes weaker and weaker in its power to set standards so that we can have a choice.
Word 2010 is actually ok and doesn't exhibit the bugs. In another comment to the same grandparent I mention Word to IE. Each version gets better but some margins I have are for specific bugs in 2003 and are misformatted in later versions as I spent 70% of my time fight word with indentations rather than content 10 years etc.
When I got 2010 the first thing I did was create another resume from scratch. Problem went away. Word is the shittiest of all MS Office including Outlook in my opinion which is not saying much.
I would use an alternative if one existed and if editable PDFs became more mainstream. In another 10 years we may get there. Apple's office suite comes close but I need a mac unfortunately.
I usually get modded -1 with a ton of replies saying how wrong I am or that the problem is the employer and myself for not having the skills to not go that route etc.
Just buy her Word. For home it is fairly cheap and well worth the cost. If you hate MS get her a mac with the mac version of it.
MS Word 2010 doesn't suck as much.
Sadly, this meritocracy is what modern MS is from IE to Windows. But it is appreciated. My issues with Word 2003 and earlier and a little bit is the shit ton of fucking formatting and margin bugs. May God have mercy on your soul when you have bullets in tables for a fancy resume. I spend 70% of my time on my older resume just fighting Word with formatting rather than creating content.
It was light writing a page for IE 6. infact some of the same formatting bugs in IE 6 are identical in Word?! hmm ... wasn't MS trying to lobby the W3C to use .docs instead of HTML last century? 2010 has fixed most if not all of this thankfully. Wordperfect never had this problem.
If you want to use that insecure Adobe shit then yes.
Sadly I finally gave up on Fixit PDF this summer and downgraded to Adobe. Too many PHBs want things like contract time card sigs and editing and only Adobe had the DRM necessary to do this.
Therefore it can't be a real serious enterprise ready product.
Just ask any beancounter
Another issue is we have IE 6 back again in style.
Its name this decade is called webkit.. If the web server detects it is a mobile device it outputs Webkit specific (chrome/Safari) CSS that is not W3C compliant.
Complain and the answer is webkit owns 95% of the market so go fsck yourself and buy a droid or iphone like everyone else. Kind of like we do not support Netscape anymore in 2003 even though you used Konsqueror or Firefox .4.
Drives me nuts to see the same developers who praise webkit and use non W3C compliant html5test.com to base their opinions then go out and bash IE 6 and who write code on the mobile end that wont work Windows Phone/Windows 8 either.
You have lazy fucking ass web developers who write proprietary non W3C compliant -webkit code to thank. Probably the same ones who bash IE 6 for doing the same and made MS specific CSS back in the day too.
If the web server detects mobile it outputs only webkit CSS as webkit owns 95% of the market so why support anything else?
I am tempted to switch to Firefox from Chrome as I feel I am part of the problem and would be what hte world will look like in the future if Chrome won. Just like 2003 when you received Netscape not supported when you used any browser but IE 6 on 40% of the web.
Yeah, the Libyan government is so irate. Just like how Pakistan publicly bitches about drone strikes but behind closed doors couldn't be happier. http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/03/pakistani-general-actually-the-drones-are-awesome/
The Libyan government is the most liberal and pro western friendly government in the middle east. I do not know where you get this? ... you do know Ghadaffi is dead right and the rebels won?
The world is once again safe from the terrorists.
Remember kids going to the Pirate Bay enables terrorists like these!
When you are a CEO or CIO where you can make such deciscions then thats great!
In the real world if you are neither then you have a choice. Either use what they have or get another job! I work for them and not the other way around. In IT you support and use the products given or live with your parents unemployed. There are many who are desperate and under worked who would jump at an opportunity at my job. I dont make the rules. Just state what they are.