Wouldn't it be great to write one test case for a certain standard of CSS and HTML 5 features. You write them and they work flawless with all browsers! That is the goal here and IE 8 has a crappy ancient javascript engine though it does try to correct its mistakes from IE 6 with rendering Html and css.
It is not standard and proprietary and needs to go. You would not in 2001 when IE 6 came out be told oh, this product needs to support Netscape 3 and IE 4 because it is 3 years old. Perhaps we should standardize on that until 2006?!
Hell no. Browsers change in 6 weeks and if a standard is selected it makes your job easier as it gives incentive for the web to ignore users on 3 year old browsers. IE 10 is about down too I may add. It is silly to be spending millions today to upgrade to IE 8 when it is already obsolete and IE 9 is about to go out of date.
But a site made for IE 9 will work for almost any other browser including IE 10. The latest standard will free up your time and a browser will be just a browser again and not a whole browser-like mess that IE and Netscape were in a battle to proprietize the web.
Special CSS is proprietary. They exist due to the lack of standards from the W3C which is precisely the point.
Also the Chrome one uses its proprietary audio api which is not standard at all. That sounds IE 6 ish if you ask me. However, IE 6's box model that people hate started because the W3C finalized version was different than the one the IE team started implementing just weeks before its release. Again, the result of rushing in and standards taking too long which is the number one rendering bug why older apps can't run on any newer browser.
My comment had to do with GPU acceleration too. Your 1 ghz on XP probably doesn't do it at all. A phone will. IE 9 does it fully. Chrome is getting close as that and Mozilla partially do it under Windows 7. YOu can enable it fully on Chrome with about:flags but it doesn't use DirectX11 which can do font smoothing and other effects due to supporting ancient XP.
The other point was that sites dumb down their CSS 3 content on the web due to ancient browser support while they use if fully for the IPHone and Android as they know it is a modern web rendering engine on the inside. So the okcupid applet on my phone looks better than the website on a desktop browser as an example.
Moving standards forward faster with better browsers will fix this and it is bizarre that a powerful desktop has to be neutered for corporations and grandmas running IE 8 and earlier.
"Are you having a laugh? The browsing "experience" on a smartphone doesn't come anywhere close the what I have on my dual 22 inch desktop monitors. If you seriously think that can be replicated on some rinky dink 3 inch screen then you must have problems with your eyesight.."
The size of the screen is not the issue I am referring too. It is the legacy software support. I own a hex core phenom II with an ATI 5750 with 8 gigs of ram. My Samsung Galaxy with modern optimized apps with HTML 5 and gpu acceleration perform better sadly.
""On my computer it flickers unless I use IE 9"
Then your computer is a piece of junk. Go and buy one built in the 21st century."
No IE 9 has hardware acceleration with my GPU. The other ones do not by default.
The other browsers still do not support it by default or only accelerate part of it.
For browsing experience take a look at www.okcupid.com? The web applet for Android and iOS has more graphical effects and detail than the desktop version. This is because of a combination of supporting obsolete browsers as well as GPU acceleration on the desktop is behind. Webmasters do not include it because not everyone uses modern web browsers and decent dedicated graphics that even your phone has better. Intel 915 and earlier are less powerful than my Samsung Galaxy GPU wise.
Also if you have an IPAD or any smartphone go to www.slashdot.org and move your screen up and down with your finger? See how is slides like butter? No chops at all like your browser. I can get Chrome to work like this only if I go into about:flags and turn on some experimental GPU features. Not something an average user will do. Why should a much more powerful desktop behave like that?
"Errm , you do realise that applets are programs, not web pages?" Why can't they be applets? Metro apps are coming and many apps like salesforce.com are moving to the internet. It is a whole platform and one where the PC is losing.
IE 8 will stick around the corporations for a long time until there is a reason to upgrade. Chrome is not an option PERIOD. No AD support and is released too fast for testing. Having the web not support it is one! Otherwise they would still be running IE 6. Most have left it or are in the process of upgrading as I type this because many sites refuse to support it.
IF HTML 5 is done and HTML 6 is coming through the other half of the proposals not finished yet that Chrome and Firefox already do it will give a checklist to the beancounters to upgrade and webmasters will be eager to implement them across all modern browsers.
To me HTML 5 is too ambitions and big like trying to swallow a horse rather than one bite at a time approach. I think it should be split into several versions of HTML 5,6, and 7 etc.
The whole world should slow down. Stick with a stable standard for a while. And relax.
Quite the opposite. We need to speed up!
We did it in the 1990s and survived fine and innovation followed and all was good.... well except for some beancounters who wanted a bare bones IT. There was no "This is the web browser we will use for the next 8 years and lets lock it in etc". Today we have phones like my Andriod as well as IPhones that give a much better browsing experience than my desktop?!
Why?
Because webmasters cripple them to cater to ancient versions of IE still. My phone has smooth crisp texts that are better hardware accelerated that are smoth when I go up and down with my finger. On my computer it flickers unless I use IE 9. I have gradients in things like arrows on many applets and sites with HTML 5 and CSS 3 the web equivalent does not have the gradients to cater to older browsers.
It is 2012 and this is silly. We need to move on and HTML 5 in my opinion should be gutted out so it can be standardized faster and the rest of the ideas and proposals can be part of CSS 3.1 and HTML 6. Doing this will stop Chrome only sites and get people to leave IE 8 and older browsers behind. Why should the best experiences be only for phone based applets?
What is wrong with getting someone older who barely understands computers an IPAD? Doesn't that seem more practical?
It does everything and is easier for grandma to use than a linux box to take pics, upload them to facebook, and write letters for her bingo club. The argument is silly as would be her dictating her software to you which would be IE 6, AOL, MS Works, which she probably uses and thinks is superior because she is familiar.
W3C slowed down because Microsoft refused to play along for so long and they are part of the committee. With the about face of IE 9/10 that problem should go away as all browsers rapidly race towards incorporating CSS 3 and HTML 5 features first including simply proposals that are not even draft yet!
I favor cutting off HTML 5 proposals now to finalize it faster. THen put the newer features in webkit and Gecko in HMTL 6. If people are getting giddy about HTML 6 accelerated SVG and ajax stuff it will put pressure to retire IE 8. It will be perceived as very obsolete much quicker and non compliant otherwise the corps wont leave which will mean CSS 2.1 and HTML 4 until 2019.
That thing is a thorn in our side and it will become the new IE 6 of this decade because it comes with Windows 7.
I interviewed for a guy a year or two ago under the delusion he was going to get rich. He discovered the secret dlls in Windows and would run a VB app in IE at his site and it would put the correct dlls back after removing malware! I laughed and the interview did nto go well after that.
Everyone including spammers and scammers like that mycleanPC crap that pisses us off. I feel sorry for his investors.
First off Grannies barely know how to use a computer at all. How would they find this site? Do they even know what malware is? For those that do they are terrified of clicking links as we told them ads and links are bad right?
The last few years infections are so bad the most effective way is to do a full rewipe. Many corporations do that too even for minor software issues as they do not have time to fix it. Rootkits are bad and permanent slowdowns result even if the bug is removed due to the damage.
It sounds to me this guy was desperate to get funding as there are a million mycleanpc or wecleanyourpcee clones out there and no VC would fund his startup unless he did something different.
Sorry, but not everyone wants to compile kernels and dealing with a driver breaking Xorg or the UI of Unity/Gnome-Shell. Asking her to find repositories for xfce defeats the purpose as she would not understand that nor need too.
I really doubt the $300 figure is a right average sallary. Statistical info says avg. sallary in China in 2012 about $800. Then again, there are lies, damn lies and statistics. For example sallary statistics for Bosnia & Herzegovina put avg. net sallary at 420 Eur but from first-hand experience I know it's really in the 250-300 Eur range pushed largely by the overpayed public administration. So assuming equal statistical skew done for government purposes (avg. sallary based taxation and avg. salary based paychecks in government jobs), we amount to $600 realistically. That's still double compared to the figure in the article. Still half months sallary for average Joe (and more than half for, say, the cleaning lady) coming from your boss is a nice bonus and a good move.
First is outlinners. If you count the billionaires and the corrupt government officials making a lot of money that will change the average even if that only is 1% of the population. Also do they count those who work or those who do not work like elderly and children? This changes your denominator too.
For factory work I heard it is about $1.20 an hour which is $14.40 a day for a 12 hour shift not counting taxes. That is $86.40 a week for a standard 6 day workweek which then totals $345.60 a month. Hmm that sounds about right to me.
Foxconn pays only $.30 an hour! Apple is very cheap and greedy and I bet you it has high turnover though it is increasing its salary to $.45 an hour. This would be something horrible like $150 a month!
Oh please. IF you only got paid $200k a year and could get fired very easily with a high turnover wouldn't you be tempted to just keep the 3 Million?
What is to say that Windows 8 will bomb and that the global recession wont get this CEO canned in the next 6 months now with 3 million less? American CEOs have reward incentive programs but nothing like 1 months salary unless you really really did something no one else did and it is just one employee. Most companies like Dell and Microsoft constantly fire the bottom 15% and your reward is you keep your job and NOT GET fired. That is how American business works typically.
Lenovo will change this as the news of this will attract the top talent who has years of experience and the foreman can be more picky who they let on board and the whole asian culture of loyality to your company will be very strong to discourge IP theft. It is not what Lennevo did, but rather how HP and Dell fucked up. They made ultrabooks and better business oriented system than their competitors.
CEOs only make like $200k -$600k (excluding bankers and other financial institutions). Sure that is a lot to one of us but is paltry if their ideas and talent brought billions for their company!
This CEO realizes his people had a large part and even 3 million which is a TON of money is paltry overall to the revenue generated. This CEO had guts to do that as I would be very tempted myself for that 3 million knowning I could retire if they fired me tomorrow and I was just getting 200k while nice is not richness or a full retirement. If they fire the guy that is it! With WIndows 8 and a global recession brewing that risk is quite real and Lennovo might be punished by the shareholders in the next 6 months. No bonus for him that is for sure even if METRO and the economy are not his fault.
Dell and HP practically have a monopoly in the corporate market. Lenovo still says laptops to some executives.
I wonder if they have any of the same enterprise agreements for servers, desktops, and everything else? Maybe my employer could switch to them? Regardless they are making an improvement in this market as Asus and Samsung are not as corporate friendly with integration all from one vendor yet.
I so would have wished this 12 years ago during the DOJ trial. I would LOVE to have real competition to java with C#.NET running on Linux and MacOSX and Linux users would ahve Office too.
It is not going to happen. Even if they did split up their products are so tied together it would be hard if not impossible to have.NET libraries on other OSes at this point without a total rewrite. No Mono is not a real implementation as it emulates COM/DCOM and wine like win32 calls.
I kind of stopped wanting Microsoft to die. We need something new that DOESN'T suck (not just one, make that 2-3). Death of MS would accomplish nothing but more consolidation for the other poopyheads.
Apple is enemy number 1 right now. Not Microsoft. For the older folks on here they remember IBM as the bad guy and MS as the good guys and so on. I really do hope Windows Phone 8 succeeds yes I know slashdotters may not agree with me, but it is good for competition. Google could decide it is not worth it to be sued and sign an agreement with Apple to leave the market and have them only use Google services or something scary. You never know. Infact, if the lawsuits get worse I would do just that if I were Schidmt at Google. Andriod is a loss leader anyway they make money with searches.
Anyway not to go offtopic competition is good and slashdotters should consider their stance on Microsoft. They are not the scary guys who made crapware 10 years ago anymore. Windows 7 !=WindowsME/Dos4, Windows Phone != WinCE, and IE 10 != IE 6.
Apple is pretty cool still for many so my post is controversial but Apple scares me much more than MS and they are far more powerful now. Just my 2 cents even if they do make a Unix like consumer oriented OS.
My ideal office machine: - Windows 2000 - Office 97 - Just don't use it to browse the Web. A clean install of W2K on a 1 GHz PIII with 256-512 MB RAM runs like a Swiss watch.
... until someone sends you something in a docx format and you need to use a hotmail or gmail account with a modern web browser outside of IE 6 since support is rapidly dying for hotmail.
I want to see XP DEAD. This issue you described is what caused progress back in the 1990s as no one wanted to be viewed as incompetent and behind the times. XP should not be around anymore except for special pieces of equipment.
That says a lot about your company if you can't read what everyone else uses.
Until last year I always sent my resume or any other file with the older compatibility mode. As of March 2011 I changed. I figured if they did not a more up to date system to handle it then it says a lot about the company that I do not want to be involved in.
I hope your company does not do business to business sales. Your reputation is everything and even if I did save my resume in compatiblity format what is to say it will even look right on your computer? Probably HR will throw it in the trash anyway lol.
There are so many formatting bugs and other problems in all versions of Office but they are worse when you go back further. VBA and other excel functions are castrated at the version you use.
But you didn't have whinners slamming it for not supporting Windows 3.0 and DOS when Word 3 for DOS 5 works just fine bla bla bla. Wordperfect for DOS back then only required 128k of ram. Why upgrade to that horrible bloat of Office 95 etc.
Office 95 required a computer made within 1.5 years of release! Windows 95 and NT 4 were just coming out and brand new. Sure people had 386s that were 6 years old then but did not have the 8 megs of ram and that much hard drive space.
I think bashing MS for Office 2013 for requiring 2 gigs of ram and Windows 7 or later is what every computer made past October 2009 which is almost 3 years ago shows MS is cooling the upgrade trendmill if anything.
No but there is a good economical reason not too and yes it is technical too.
If you redo the whole XP driver model (for free), then you need to have the hardware vendors update their 10 year old hardware (for free), you need to readd the same features in the Windows 7 kernel (for free). Just to make people who refuse to pay you. Does that make any business sense?
Besides if MS spent the tens of billions for people who wont pay you for it then you end up with Windows 7 anyway. Now older XP is no longer compatible with itself and ancient programs break and so on.
OpenGL is just a library. DirectX is an engine. You have any idea how much work that would entail when they already have a DirectX11 engine ready to go!
It is not malicious at all nor simple to add the features to existing XP users. Windows 7 has advanced document management and security for years that is perfect for cloud integration as you do not want confidential stuff on the internet nor to the wrong sets of people. We have not used them because of old XP users who refuse to leave.
Please it is holding us back right there with IE 6. The reason Windows 7 is not that hyped up in the office is no program takes advantage of its features due to XP support. Let it go and tell your boss to upgrade.
Excel 2013 uses ghosting and transperancies. Fonts are hardware accelerated too with DirectX10 and 11 which is not supported in XP. It gives an experience like your andriod or iPhone where you move the text on the screen and it is smooth like butter.
Office doesn't do that now because not all of it is accelerated. Office 2013 will make it like an Andriod or IOS device. Nice too for presentations in groups
Vista not being compatible is suprising to me, but XP support being dropped is acceptable. Who still running XP would actually be paying for Office 2013?
Oh please. XP is going to turn 11 when that thing comes out. It is time to move on and it is rediculous to keep supporting it. It is not a simple matter of a recompile either. Businesses will stop using it if no one writes software just like we still would be using IE 6 if Google didn't refuse to support it for docs and youtube. Then afterwards facebook and others chimed in and poof the users went away kicking and screaming but upgraded to Firefox or IE 7 or later.
Same is true with XP. XP can't do HTML 5 in IE9 because it can't do the hardware acceleration.Also it can't support h.264 due to the lack of DRM and hidef in the driver level. Because of that the office365 features will not work fully for remote features. The GPU graphics can't be done. The malware protection and group and document management DRM can not be done for the cloud integration etc.
Exchange 2003 is not as cloud friendly nor as flexible as later versions to support the groupware integration of Outlook 2013 either.
Besides making XP Vista-lite and enabling users to keep from upgrading and ruining the stability and maturity of the OS it is time to let it go. There are more modern implementaitons already called Windows 7 and 8.
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Wouldn't it be great to write one test case for a certain standard of CSS and HTML 5 features. You write them and they work flawless with all browsers! That is the goal here and IE 8 has a crappy ancient javascript engine though it does try to correct its mistakes from IE 6 with rendering Html and css.
It is not standard and proprietary and needs to go. You would not in 2001 when IE 6 came out be told oh, this product needs to support Netscape 3 and IE 4 because it is 3 years old. Perhaps we should standardize on that until 2006?!
Hell no. Browsers change in 6 weeks and if a standard is selected it makes your job easier as it gives incentive for the web to ignore users on 3 year old browsers. IE 10 is about down too I may add. It is silly to be spending millions today to upgrade to IE 8 when it is already obsolete and IE 9 is about to go out of date.
But a site made for IE 9 will work for almost any other browser including IE 10. The latest standard will free up your time and a browser will be just a browser again and not a whole browser-like mess that IE and Netscape were in a battle to proprietize the web.
Special CSS is proprietary. They exist due to the lack of standards from the W3C which is precisely the point.
Also the Chrome one uses its proprietary audio api which is not standard at all. That sounds IE 6 ish if you ask me. However, IE 6's box model that people hate started because the W3C finalized version was different than the one the IE team started implementing just weeks before its release. Again, the result of rushing in and standards taking too long which is the number one rendering bug why older apps can't run on any newer browser.
My comment had to do with GPU acceleration too. Your 1 ghz on XP probably doesn't do it at all. A phone will. IE 9 does it fully. Chrome is getting close as that and Mozilla partially do it under Windows 7. YOu can enable it fully on Chrome with about:flags but it doesn't use DirectX11 which can do font smoothing and other effects due to supporting ancient XP.
The other point was that sites dumb down their CSS 3 content on the web due to ancient browser support while they use if fully for the IPHone and Android as they know it is a modern web rendering engine on the inside. So the okcupid applet on my phone looks better than the website on a desktop browser as an example.
Moving standards forward faster with better browsers will fix this and it is bizarre that a powerful desktop has to be neutered for corporations and grandmas running IE 8 and earlier.
"Are you having a laugh? The browsing "experience" on a smartphone doesn't come anywhere close the what I have on my dual 22 inch desktop monitors. If you seriously think that can be replicated on some rinky dink 3 inch screen then you must have problems with your eyesight.."
The size of the screen is not the issue I am referring too. It is the legacy software support. I own a hex core phenom II with an ATI 5750 with 8 gigs of ram. My Samsung Galaxy with modern optimized apps with HTML 5 and gpu acceleration perform better sadly.
""On my computer it flickers unless I use IE 9"
Then your computer is a piece of junk. Go and buy one built in the 21st century."
No IE 9 has hardware acceleration with my GPU. The other ones do not by default.
The other browsers still do not support it by default or only accelerate part of it.
For browsing experience take a look at www.okcupid.com? The web applet for Android and iOS has more graphical effects and detail than the desktop version. This is because of a combination of supporting obsolete browsers as well as GPU acceleration on the desktop is behind. Webmasters do not include it because not everyone uses modern web browsers and decent dedicated graphics that even your phone has better. Intel 915 and earlier are less powerful than my Samsung Galaxy GPU wise.
Also if you have an IPAD or any smartphone go to www.slashdot.org and move your screen up and down with your finger? See how is slides like butter? No chops at all like your browser. I can get Chrome to work like this only if I go into about:flags and turn on some experimental GPU features. Not something an average user will do. Why should a much more powerful desktop behave like that?
"Errm , you do realise that applets are programs, not web pages?"
Why can't they be applets? Metro apps are coming and many apps like salesforce.com are moving to the internet. It is a whole platform and one where the PC is losing.
I know it is but the link had a point.
IE 8 will stick around the corporations for a long time until there is a reason to upgrade. Chrome is not an option PERIOD. No AD support and is released too fast for testing. Having the web not support it is one! Otherwise they would still be running IE 6. Most have left it or are in the process of upgrading as I type this because many sites refuse to support it.
IF HTML 5 is done and HTML 6 is coming through the other half of the proposals not finished yet that Chrome and Firefox already do it will give a checklist to the beancounters to upgrade and webmasters will be eager to implement them across all modern browsers.
The one supported by by Webkit and Gecko?
Indeed. That is already a problem?
To me HTML 5 is too ambitions and big like trying to swallow a horse rather than one bite at a time approach. I think it should be split into several versions of HTML 5,6, and 7 etc.
The whole world should slow down. Stick with a stable standard for a while. And relax.
Quite the opposite. We need to speed up!
We did it in the 1990s and survived fine and innovation followed and all was good. ... well except for some beancounters who wanted a bare bones IT. There was no "This is the web browser we will use for the next 8 years and lets lock it in etc". Today we have phones like my Andriod as well as IPhones that give a much better browsing experience than my desktop?!
Why?
Because webmasters cripple them to cater to ancient versions of IE still. My phone has smooth crisp texts that are better hardware accelerated that are smoth when I go up and down with my finger. On my computer it flickers unless I use IE 9. I have gradients in things like arrows on many applets and sites with HTML 5 and CSS 3 the web equivalent does not have the gradients to cater to older browsers.
It is 2012 and this is silly. We need to move on and HTML 5 in my opinion should be gutted out so it can be standardized faster and the rest of the ideas and proposals can be part of CSS 3.1 and HTML 6. Doing this will stop Chrome only sites and get people to leave IE 8 and older browsers behind. Why should the best experiences be only for phone based applets?
Oh come on moderators.
What is wrong with getting someone older who barely understands computers an IPAD? Doesn't that seem more practical?
It does everything and is easier for grandma to use than a linux box to take pics, upload them to facebook, and write letters for her bingo club. The argument is silly as would be her dictating her software to you which would be IE 6, AOL, MS Works, which she probably uses and thinks is superior because she is familiar.
W3C slowed down because Microsoft refused to play along for so long and they are part of the committee. With the about face of IE 9/10 that problem should go away as all browsers rapidly race towards incorporating CSS 3 and HTML 5 features first including simply proposals that are not even draft yet!
I favor cutting off HTML 5 proposals now to finalize it faster. THen put the newer features in webkit and Gecko in HMTL 6. If people are getting giddy about HTML 6 accelerated SVG and ajax stuff it will put pressure to retire IE 8. It will be perceived as very obsolete much quicker and non compliant otherwise the corps wont leave which will mean CSS 2.1 and HTML 4 until 2019.
That thing is a thorn in our side and it will become the new IE 6 of this decade because it comes with Windows 7.
Also doing this will prevent Chrome from becoming the next non standard browser as well.
But it is different. It is web based!
I interviewed for a guy a year or two ago under the delusion he was going to get rich. He discovered the secret dlls in Windows and would run a VB app in IE at his site and it would put the correct dlls back after removing malware! I laughed and the interview did nto go well after that.
Everyone including spammers and scammers like that mycleanPC crap that pisses us off. I feel sorry for his investors.
First off Grannies barely know how to use a computer at all. How would they find this site? Do they even know what malware is? For those that do they are terrified of clicking links as we told them ads and links are bad right?
The last few years infections are so bad the most effective way is to do a full rewipe. Many corporations do that too even for minor software issues as they do not have time to fix it. Rootkits are bad and permanent slowdowns result even if the bug is removed due to the damage.
It sounds to me this guy was desperate to get funding as there are a million mycleanpc or wecleanyourpcee clones out there and no VC would fund his startup unless he did something different.
Or even better get her an IPAD.
Sorry, but not everyone wants to compile kernels and dealing with a driver breaking Xorg or the UI of Unity/Gnome-Shell. Asking her to find repositories for xfce defeats the purpose as she would not understand that nor need too.
I really doubt the $300 figure is a right average sallary. Statistical info says avg. sallary in China in 2012 about $800. Then again, there are lies, damn lies and statistics. For example sallary statistics for Bosnia & Herzegovina put avg. net sallary at 420 Eur but from first-hand experience I know it's really in the 250-300 Eur range pushed largely by the overpayed public administration. So assuming equal statistical skew done for government purposes (avg. sallary based taxation and avg. salary based paychecks in government jobs), we amount to $600 realistically. That's still double compared to the figure in the article. Still half months sallary for average Joe (and more than half for, say, the cleaning lady) coming from your boss is a nice bonus and a good move.
First is outlinners. If you count the billionaires and the corrupt government officials making a lot of money that will change the average even if that only is 1% of the population. Also do they count those who work or those who do not work like elderly and children? This changes your denominator too.
For factory work I heard it is about $1.20 an hour which is $14.40 a day for a 12 hour shift not counting taxes. That is $86.40 a week for a standard 6 day workweek which then totals $345.60 a month. Hmm that sounds about right to me.
Foxconn pays only $.30 an hour! Apple is very cheap and greedy and I bet you it has high turnover though it is increasing its salary to $.45 an hour. This would be something horrible like $150 a month!
Oh please. IF you only got paid $200k a year and could get fired very easily with a high turnover wouldn't you be tempted to just keep the 3 Million?
What is to say that Windows 8 will bomb and that the global recession wont get this CEO canned in the next 6 months now with 3 million less? American CEOs have reward incentive programs but nothing like 1 months salary unless you really really did something no one else did and it is just one employee. Most companies like Dell and Microsoft constantly fire the bottom 15% and your reward is you keep your job and NOT GET fired. That is how American business works typically.
Lenovo will change this as the news of this will attract the top talent who has years of experience and the foreman can be more picky who they let on board and the whole asian culture of loyality to your company will be very strong to discourge IP theft. It is not what Lennevo did, but rather how HP and Dell fucked up. They made ultrabooks and better business oriented system than their competitors.
CEOs only make like $200k -$600k (excluding bankers and other financial institutions). Sure that is a lot to one of us but is paltry if their ideas and talent brought billions for their company!
This CEO realizes his people had a large part and even 3 million which is a TON of money is paltry overall to the revenue generated. This CEO had guts to do that as I would be very tempted myself for that 3 million knowning I could retire if they fired me tomorrow and I was just getting 200k while nice is not richness or a full retirement. If they fire the guy that is it! With WIndows 8 and a global recession brewing that risk is quite real and Lennovo might be punished by the shareholders in the next 6 months. No bonus for him that is for sure even if METRO and the economy are not his fault.
So bravo
Dell and HP practically have a monopoly in the corporate market. Lenovo still says laptops to some executives.
I wonder if they have any of the same enterprise agreements for servers, desktops, and everything else? Maybe my employer could switch to them? Regardless they are making an improvement in this market as Asus and Samsung are not as corporate friendly with integration all from one vendor yet.
I so would have wished this 12 years ago during the DOJ trial. I would LOVE to have real competition to java with C#.NET running on Linux and MacOSX and Linux users would ahve Office too.
It is not going to happen. Even if they did split up their products are so tied together it would be hard if not impossible to have .NET libraries on other OSes at this point without a total rewrite. No Mono is not a real implementation as it emulates COM/DCOM and wine like win32 calls.
I kind of stopped wanting Microsoft to die. We need something new that DOESN'T suck (not just one, make that 2-3). Death of MS would accomplish nothing but more consolidation for the other poopyheads.
Apple is enemy number 1 right now. Not Microsoft. For the older folks on here they remember IBM as the bad guy and MS as the good guys and so on. I really do hope Windows Phone 8 succeeds yes I know slashdotters may not agree with me, but it is good for competition. Google could decide it is not worth it to be sued and sign an agreement with Apple to leave the market and have them only use Google services or something scary. You never know. Infact, if the lawsuits get worse I would do just that if I were Schidmt at Google. Andriod is a loss leader anyway they make money with searches.
Anyway not to go offtopic competition is good and slashdotters should consider their stance on Microsoft. They are not the scary guys who made crapware 10 years ago anymore. Windows 7 !=WindowsME/Dos4, Windows Phone != WinCE, and IE 10 != IE 6.
Apple is pretty cool still for many so my post is controversial but Apple scares me much more than MS and they are far more powerful now. Just my 2 cents even if they do make a Unix like consumer oriented OS.
My ideal office machine:
- Windows 2000
- Office 97
- Just don't use it to browse the Web.
A clean install of W2K on a 1 GHz PIII with 256-512 MB RAM runs like a Swiss watch.
... until someone sends you something in a docx format and you need to use a hotmail or gmail account with a modern web browser outside of IE 6 since support is rapidly dying for hotmail.
I will look forward to that day.
I want to see XP DEAD. This issue you described is what caused progress back in the 1990s as no one wanted to be viewed as incompetent and behind the times. XP should not be around anymore except for special pieces of equipment.
That says a lot about your company if you can't read what everyone else uses.
Until last year I always sent my resume or any other file with the older compatibility mode. As of March 2011 I changed. I figured if they did not a more up to date system to handle it then it says a lot about the company that I do not want to be involved in.
I hope your company does not do business to business sales. Your reputation is everything and even if I did save my resume in compatiblity format what is to say it will even look right on your computer? Probably HR will throw it in the trash anyway lol.
There are so many formatting bugs and other problems in all versions of Office but they are worse when you go back further. VBA and other excel functions are castrated at the version you use.
But you didn't have whinners slamming it for not supporting Windows 3.0 and DOS when Word 3 for DOS 5 works just fine bla bla bla. Wordperfect for DOS back then only required 128k of ram. Why upgrade to that horrible bloat of Office 95 etc.
Office 95 required a computer made within 1.5 years of release! Windows 95 and NT 4 were just coming out and brand new. Sure people had 386s that were 6 years old then but did not have the 8 megs of ram and that much hard drive space.
I think bashing MS for Office 2013 for requiring 2 gigs of ram and Windows 7 or later is what every computer made past October 2009 which is almost 3 years ago shows MS is cooling the upgrade trendmill if anything.
No but there is a good economical reason not too and yes it is technical too.
If you redo the whole XP driver model (for free), then you need to have the hardware vendors update their 10 year old hardware (for free), you need to readd the same features in the Windows 7 kernel (for free). Just to make people who refuse to pay you. Does that make any business sense?
Besides if MS spent the tens of billions for people who wont pay you for it then you end up with Windows 7 anyway. Now older XP is no longer compatible with itself and ancient programs break and so on.
OpenGL is just a library. DirectX is an engine. You have any idea how much work that would entail when they already have a DirectX11 engine ready to go!
It is not malicious at all nor simple to add the features to existing XP users. Windows 7 has advanced document management and security for years that is perfect for cloud integration as you do not want confidential stuff on the internet nor to the wrong sets of people. We have not used them because of old XP users who refuse to leave.
Please it is holding us back right there with IE 6. The reason Windows 7 is not that hyped up in the office is no program takes advantage of its features due to XP support. Let it go and tell your boss to upgrade.
Excel 2013 uses ghosting and transperancies. Fonts are hardware accelerated too with DirectX10 and 11 which is not supported in XP. It gives an experience like your andriod or iPhone where you move the text on the screen and it is smooth like butter.
Office doesn't do that now because not all of it is accelerated. Office 2013 will make it like an Andriod or IOS device. Nice too for presentations in groups
Vista not being compatible is suprising to me, but XP support being dropped is acceptable. Who still running XP would actually be paying for Office 2013?
Oh please. XP is going to turn 11 when that thing comes out. It is time to move on and it is rediculous to keep supporting it. It is not a simple matter of a recompile either. Businesses will stop using it if no one writes software just like we still would be using IE 6 if Google didn't refuse to support it for docs and youtube. Then afterwards facebook and others chimed in and poof the users went away kicking and screaming but upgraded to Firefox or IE 7 or later.
Same is true with XP. XP can't do HTML 5 in IE9 because it can't do the hardware acceleration.Also it can't support h.264 due to the lack of DRM and hidef in the driver level. Because of that the office365 features will not work fully for remote features. The GPU graphics can't be done. The malware protection and group and document management DRM can not be done for the cloud integration etc.
Exchange 2003 is not as cloud friendly nor as flexible as later versions to support the groupware integration of Outlook 2013 either.
Besides making XP Vista-lite and enabling users to keep from upgrading and ruining the stability and maturity of the OS it is time to let it go. There are more modern implementaitons already called Windows 7 and 8.