No language is perfect and I like to think of using a particular language for a particular purpose. Some places C should not be used today. Gnome is a classic example if you want to bind OO languages with GObject.
One issue with C (I know I am going to get flamed here) is security. Most of Windows security flaws are from C due to buffer and stack overlfows, and even vector attacks that languages like Pascal handle better when turned into assembly code. The Marines used old macs for years for this reason. I am not a computer science major so you can flame all you want on me not knowing anything, but XP SP2 and OpenBSD had to introduce special libraries due to the fact that a buffer and stack overflow can result in code execution. Unix had a bad wrap with security too early on before Windows 2000 and much of that could be due to C and its libraries. Don't give me it is a the programmers fault as he or she has no clue what the resulting assembly code does and how it handles when something is full.
I am not a troll here or anti C but it is something overlooked by programmers who only grew up with C, C++ or Java/C# which are all derived or influenced by C itself.
If all you are doing is typing code and not using the GUI tools than you just blew $700 down the toilet. I hate adobe tools but I do admit it is because I am not proficient at them and they are complex and difficult to work with. A flyer for a client took a many hour ordeal that I could do with paint.net in minutes for some effects that were simply. No need to recreate layers from a scanned photo from scratch for an hour just before I could *start* work. Rediculous!
The issue I have with Dreamweaver is Adobe makes only one program for every task because they want to sell you other $700 programs. Nice Photoshop pic go add some text. Oh wait you need illustrator for text and shadows for $700 more. You see the $700 for PS was not enough money to do that. What you do not want to pay for it? Ha, good luck trying to get a job whe the HR ladies require experience with illustrator AND photoshop.
Dreamweaver has no animations so now they want to charge us $700 more for their edge suite. Video $700 more for a third program.... and you get the picture.
Dreamweaver was painful to get anything simple done like add a border around a picture/icon in a page. I gave up. I am glad I didn't pay for it. The only good thing about HTML 5 is you can edit it by text unlike photo files. I will pick MS expressions and Visual Studio thank you. If you want visual design then this is where Adobe sells the WYSIWYG tools.
XP is 10 years old. It is no longer relevant. If you say it is then I will say that office users are not supposed to go on the web during office hours anyway. XP has less than 1 out of 4 users left in the US and the rest are in China.
When I log into gmail there is an ad saying g+ is going away, but your posts shall always remain. That shows they killed it without letting it mature.
I could be full of it but that, GoogleTV, and others show a history of quickly investing in things and releasing fast and then abandonding them. Maybe they only invest a small amount and see what sticks so the losses are not as big but you need a large budget to do large things sometimes.
Not only does Google put out products early but they cancel them quickly too. They are starting to hit HP syndrome where they quickly halt investments if it does not produce a sizable return in just a single 6 week quarter. the cost accountants are running the show in order to boast its shareprice. I have seen the change within the first year as anyone else has.
Google+ was declared a failure within 1 month. I mean come on! Gmail was not popular either at first and I bet if these accountants were in charge of Google back in 2007 gmail would have been canned within 60 days as well because it did not boast the shareprice as well.
I understand it is a business and needs constant 6 - 8 week growth spurts to bring a higher share price to make investors happy and justify the CEO's compensation, but they are killing the goose with the golden egg to quickly. Companies that start to do these things always end up being sorry later. Again, HP syndrome.
If I were a shareholder I would be tempted to sell. It still has a high price not to mention all these ventures that quickly open and close cost money and show a company that is acting frantically desperate.
I was one of them and I ended up looking like an ass and proving those who hate change and love IE 7 right.
Will these users ever switch to Chrome? Hell, no! Remember Mr billly gates the last time we tried that when you said bla bla... etc. Sigh
Look at www.statcounter.com for IE web usage in the US from July to November? It is rising and it all started when Asa opened his mouth in June. IE gained 5% market-share and even IE 7 gained points.
This tells me it is corporate America and I.T. companies porting business users to a more sane 10 year old supported IE browsers. I am angry even though I do find IE 9 & IE 10 excellent browsers. But why should I care? I am developing websites and I hate old IE and wish it would die. If I were the CEO of Mozilla, Asa would be fired so quickly and I would make a statement to corporate users we will continue to support the enterprise and we got your back. Ever since the CIO of Mozilla left to join Facebook the organization has went downhill.
For MS to be in that position again they would have to not only get 90% marketshare on the desktop, but also do the same on the mobile market which is exploding. In poorer countries not everyone has a landline phone or computer. However, most have cell phones. It will overtake desktop web browsing in a few years.
IE 10 is not proprietary at all and supports more standards than any other browser if you follow my link. The only thing that is proprietary are Windows is the xaml for Windows apps that use IE.
Google on the other hand is showing off HTML 5 sites that only work in Chrome and coming up with their own proprietary Dart scripting language. I am surprised none of the comments seen here mention that. They are determined to create lockin.
MS tried the proprietary position and IE 6 was its showcase. It worked for 5 years for everyone as corporate America loved a standard they could follow. By 2005 it backfired and Firefox was born. Corporations then refused to upgrade costing MS money because it was so expensive to leave IE 6 intranets behind. This caused it to implode when HTML 5 goodness from Andriod and IOS came leaving MS vulnerable.
They do not want to repeat and it makes more sense for MS to get developers on board and give customers a reason to upgrade every few years rather than decades like what happened with IE 6. MS realizes they screwed up and lost the browser wars 2.0 by sitting back from 1.0. I am not afraid at all.
Even if MS dominates and kills IOS and Andriod in 5 years enough mac users means 15% of web traffic will never be IE forcing webmasters to make sure their sites work with webkit.
I should submit that as a story but I am afraid I will be flamed to death as this is slashdot after all.
IE 10 is in beta I thought and is scheduled for release in March for Windows 7. A commentor in Ars Technica mentioned MS wants a yearly release of IE and March seems to be the month they prefer. My dream would be if MS would make a Windows 7 OEM CD with SP2 that came with IE 10 akin to IE 8 coming with winXP SP 3 cd, so that way we can start transitioning to HTML 5.
IE 8 is the only thing holding the desktop web browsing back and my fear is corporations will want to stay with it until 2019 when support ends leaving us using our phones for the best web experience. At least until IE 8 gets below 10% usage.... but just a dream.
Ms is very serious about not wanting to lose again like they did with IE 6 and haivng Apple or Google cream them in HTML 5 applets. They blew it! This time if they use standards we all win and I believe they have to place nice this time around thanks to Chrome, Ipads, and driods accessing the internet.
IE 9 is a good browser actually if you are stuck on Windows. Chrome is decent too and very lightweight. Flash is updated automatically with it which is a plus too since it is the number one vector for malware attacks.
IE 10 which will come out in a few months is the most compliant browser to date and will have flash automatically update as well.
It is 2011 and not 2005 anymore. Infact, FF is the new IE 6 today and IE 10/Chrome are the new FF and Opera of old. A complete reversal. It seems every 6 years there is reversal with the browsers. First Netscape/Gecko was the best in 1993. 6 years later in 1999 IE is the king and Netscape 4.7/Gecko is bugy and slow. 6 years later in 2005 Firefox/gecko from the ashes of Netscape beat IE. Now in 2011 IE is returning with Chrome just behind.
It is not a big deal to switch as all you have to do is download and try one out. It is not like a Mac vs Pc decision with $$$$ involved. Change is hard but today there are alternatives that are very good. What would suck is if IE was still at IE6/7 and Chrome didn't exist. That would blow and piss people off. This is truly browser wars 2.0 and is exciting to watch. I am glad they returned as even IE users and corporations benefit from non-crappy browsers and innovation.
On Linux I prefer Chrome too. Mozilla uses the intel compiler and my old laptop is an AMD turrion and it shows whenever I hit a page with heavy javascript or multimedia. It could be because intel's compiler breaks IEEE standards and uses old i387 techniques for FPU but I am not a computer science major so I can't comment on that.
Do you use AMD processors on your Linux install? Still Chrome is not too bad and certainly is usable. FF also is behind on its Linux and MacOSX ports compared to Chrome. Does it even have OpenGL support yet?
Firefox would use more ram if it switched to a per process system in which you noticed. Even IE has had that since IE 8 which is the last bad version of IE and is ahead in that regards.
No we do not as we can be fired for any reason at all.... however the promisory estopple prevents someone from being dishonest and causing financial harm to another via a promise or just being an ass to someone else who gets screwed. You would have to go this route and my guess is they will pay the fine but it will be cheaper to pay terminated employees half as much as the pre-IPO shares with a lawsuit then the full price. The workers with no financial resources will be willing to accept that from nothing and the bad guys win. Disgusting!
I want QA and not features. I think that is what Asa Doiltzer is ignorant of. It is not just corporate users but everybody.
Chrome is updated a little quick for me and has a few issues too due to the fast release cycle. But Google does a tremendous job fixing bugs within the next release and is miles ahead of FF. IE is now being updated annually every March too so I need not worry about it stagnating for 7 years before the next release. But it too has great QA work on it and it shows as it just works.
It is dying FAST. Truly pathetic is IE finally just got below 50% world wide!... now it has returned:-(
Thanks Asa.
But the fact that Chrome is going down too shows that perhaps corporations and businesses are slowly switching back to IE as even IE 7 is actually gaining marketshare. Again thanks Asa.
IE 9 is not doing that well either so maybe 9.x is a jinxed version.:-)
I was a FF user since it was called Phoenix, and then Firebird when it was a set of patches for Mozilla. I have been advocating its use since 2004 and switched many computers and friends over. It was a great browser at one time. Unfortunately, its time is coming to an end unless drastic things improve.
To me FF in the 2010s is more similiar to the IE 6 of the 2000s I ran away from. Its rapid release schedule increased the popularity of IEin the US from users and corporations not liking FF anymore. Chrome according to that site is about tied with FF worldwide and will soon overtake it for #2.
The saddest thing for me is not the current state of FF. It is the fact that I am using IE more and more and preferring IE 9 over FF. IE 10 will give FF a run for its money and even Chrome next March when it is released. It is complete opposite of 2005 now and it is amazing it happened in such a very short period of time.
Fix your bugs Mozilla and I may come back like I did with IE. Until then I recommend everyone use Chrome or IE. FF is just too unreliable.
You know there are alternatives to Chrome. You may hate IE 6 like 90% of us slashdotters, but newer versions are shockingly better. As in hell freezes over better from that link!
I quit FF last March shortly after 4.0 and never looked back. Seriously it is the bottom of all modern web browsers. It is great that FF 7 and 8 are much lighter and load as quick as Chrome, but they have over 6000 bugs! FF is the new IE 6 of the 2010s and it pains me to say this as I have been using it since it was called phoenix and then firebird back in 2004.
Usage according to statcounter shows in the US IE is gaining marketshare and Chrome is about tied to FF. It is dying. Just like I use IE and Chrome now I am open to FF in the future if they decide they are caught up and start doing things like improving Javascript conformance like in that test above and fixing all those bugs. IE and Chrome are just better and work.
After a week you wont miss FF that much and will start wondering why you haven't left earlier. Trust me
I wonder if the employee shares are greater than 50%? If so they can fire teh CEO outright and replace him.
If it is just 10% they can sit on the board and convince other investors to gang up and fire the CEO as well. A threat of a lawsuit might do the trick.
Every place I worked is filled with douche-bags. Only 1 employer was not and that was a school district whose job was to educate children and not make money. Everyone company is there to make money only.
Still a promise was made and if it were the other way around Zynga would sue and cry foul.
If Zynga gave more than 10% of its shares to employees they can gang up together and fire the CEO too! I would certainly be fired for this if I worked there but I would get everyone together and form a mob outside the CEO's office. Explain that if they fire me and everyone else he will be fired too and we will replace him with a new CEO.
Lets see how he likes having his job threatened by blackmail? A deal is a deal
I am no lawyer but this sounds like a break in promissary estople. Basically, if someone gives you advice and you make a decision based on that advice and it causes financial harm on yourself you can sue to recover the losses.
They were promised IPO shares and to top it off they acted on it by buying them and taking employment. Now they get to lose them after they took their advice and financial harm because I doubt they would buy them back + they could have worked for someone else who *would* give them pre-IPO.
To top if off you are fired that is a financial loss too, but you were fired because you took a promise of IPOs which you were denied.
A lawyer would be drooling on this. CEOs are assholes and are known to do these things and sleep well at night and not care. The CEO could devalue everyone elses share to $0, but keep his high of course using accounting tricks. That is legal and a better thing to do if you want to be evil and steal. I hate to break it but no company has morals and only look at you as mathmatical functions that bring in money. Your sole existence is to make someone richer in corporation and they only care about money. I hate laywers but here this is good as it would force employers to fullfil their bargins they made when the CEO was a little guy and needed help.
What the CEO who had to work up to 6 whole hours a day in his lavish office with those 2 hour lunches and games of golf shouldn't take the credit. It was his and the upper managements ideas that created the company. Just like all the bank CEOs who work really hard producing things of value we take for granted. They need to be paid for such a hard life and creating all sorts of innovation. Thoughts magically create products and they call come from managers, directors, and CEOs only! Get with the program and when I say work you say minimum wage, you are costing the shareholders money!
MS is terrified of the IPhone and missing out on tablets and sub netbooks. This is a decision by Bill Gates himself according to Ars Technica as he was called to evaluate the MS Courier Tablet to what the software group was doing with METRO to mimick IOS. Not from some lowly manager.
The first hurdle is that IE 7 sucks goatballs when the decision was made and IE 8 was still in development. HTML 5 was in the IPAD and being included rapidly by Google in webkit for Chrome and ANdriod mobile. Steve Jobs went as far as banning flash so the web can move forward.
MS saw the web as competitive again and also afraid the desktop browsing experience as being behind as a cheap $399 tablet can offer a much better browsing experience with html 5 and hardware acceleration, while the $999 desktop had crappy IE 8 with no hardware acceleration and mediocre html 4.
IE 9 is the first good IE since 2001 (IE 6 was great at the time), and IE 10 will be very competitive with Opera, Chrome, and FF and the focus is on html 5 in METRO mode. It will be the default renderer for their phones, tablets, and netbooks.
HTML 5 is a real shift and not a blow in the wind for MS to remain competitive and silverlight is desktop oriented anyway and not where MS wants to be where Google and Apple could eat them from the ground up..NET is here to stay and even part of METRO development as a language to put all the AJAX and HTML 5 goodness in. Silverlight will stay for legacy and MS does have the right to remain competitive and I do not understand this fear of change. Slashdotters were once the drive of change and it is bizaare to see this.
This strategy is good even if you do not use Windows at all as it will give webmasters a go ahead to use HTML 5 which will benefit everyone.
HTML 5 is not going to happen with IE 8 gaining marketshare if anything from corporations who are terrified to update their browsers and 30% of the population who does not know what a browser is who uses what comes on their computer.
If MS is serious about HTML 5 this issue must be addressed as IE 9 is barely making inroads at all and IE 8 is still growing.
With Windows 8 going to flop unless MS does something to save the desktop portion in it, you can bet history will repeat itself in the 2010's being known as the decade of Win7 and IE 8.Very similiar to the 2000s as the decade of XP/IE 6. If MS includes IE 10 by default with win 7 sp 2 OEM or a enterprise edition there is hope we can abandon flash and silverlight and switch to HTML 5.
Until IE 8, 7, 6 get below 10% usage silverlight and flash are here to stay and HTML 5 is out expect for mobile devices for a long long time.
Personally, I think in 5 years I will do web browsing from my phone as it will be much more advanced with 3D, fonts with effects, animations, and video as the desktop web will be years behind unless the situation changes.
No he listend to others on slashdot on how Windows sucks soooo bad and Linux is king and is supperior.
Forget the fact that Windows doesn't BSOD like crazy anymore since XP, and that with Vista/w7 it is more secure. To the user the GUI is a very big deal more than if it is a macro or a micro kernel nerd geek debate or I am l33t look at my Apache setup?
So if you criticize him for picking KDE than what about Unity or Gnome-shell? Gee can you change the background, a functionality since macs had from 1986? NOPE. Lol.
To a user that is low quality and makes Linux look as advanced as DOS. It is embarasing and Linux folks would rather protect their ego and pride by bashing people instead who say Windows is better as idiots.
I no longer run Linux anymore for this reason. I need to create documents for clients and do web design. Windows has the tools and is much better than it was. I need a gui that will let me multitask with a great work flow. Only MacOSX and Windows can do that. The new guis suck big time and I am sure I am not the only one who gave up on Linux on the desktop
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That way we can submit hello world programs that make the C IOCCC ones look like a picnic
No language is perfect and I like to think of using a particular language for a particular purpose. Some places C should not be used today. Gnome is a classic example if you want to bind OO languages with GObject.
One issue with C (I know I am going to get flamed here) is security. Most of Windows security flaws are from C due to buffer and stack overlfows, and even vector attacks that languages like Pascal handle better when turned into assembly code. The Marines used old macs for years for this reason. I am not a computer science major so you can flame all you want on me not knowing anything, but XP SP2 and OpenBSD had to introduce special libraries due to the fact that a buffer and stack overflow can result in code execution. Unix had a bad wrap with security too early on before Windows 2000 and much of that could be due to C and its libraries. Don't give me it is a the programmers fault as he or she has no clue what the resulting assembly code does and how it handles when something is full.
I am not a troll here or anti C but it is something overlooked by programmers who only grew up with C, C++ or Java/C# which are all derived or influenced by C itself.
If all you are doing is typing code and not using the GUI tools than you just blew $700 down the toilet. I hate adobe tools but I do admit it is because I am not proficient at them and they are complex and difficult to work with. A flyer for a client took a many hour ordeal that I could do with paint.net in minutes for some effects that were simply. No need to recreate layers from a scanned photo from scratch for an hour just before I could *start* work. Rediculous!
The issue I have with Dreamweaver is Adobe makes only one program for every task because they want to sell you other $700 programs. Nice Photoshop pic go add some text. Oh wait you need illustrator for text and shadows for $700 more. You see the $700 for PS was not enough money to do that. What you do not want to pay for it? Ha, good luck trying to get a job whe the HR ladies require experience with illustrator AND photoshop.
Dreamweaver has no animations so now they want to charge us $700 more for their edge suite. Video $700 more for a third program .... and you get the picture.
Dreamweaver was painful to get anything simple done like add a border around a picture/icon in a page. I gave up. I am glad I didn't pay for it. The only good thing about HTML 5 is you can edit it by text unlike photo files. I will pick MS expressions and Visual Studio thank you. If you want visual design then this is where Adobe sells the WYSIWYG tools.
XP is 10 years old. It is no longer relevant. If you say it is then I will say that office users are not supposed to go on the web during office hours anyway. XP has less than 1 out of 4 users left in the US and the rest are in China.
When I log into gmail there is an ad saying g+ is going away, but your posts shall always remain. That shows they killed it without letting it mature.
I could be full of it but that, GoogleTV, and others show a history of quickly investing in things and releasing fast and then abandonding them. Maybe they only invest a small amount and see what sticks so the losses are not as big but you need a large budget to do large things sometimes.
Not only does Google put out products early but they cancel them quickly too. They are starting to hit HP syndrome where they quickly halt investments if it does not produce a sizable return in just a single 6 week quarter. the cost accountants are running the show in order to boast its shareprice. I have seen the change within the first year as anyone else has.
Google+ was declared a failure within 1 month. I mean come on! Gmail was not popular either at first and I bet if these accountants were in charge of Google back in 2007 gmail would have been canned within 60 days as well because it did not boast the shareprice as well.
I understand it is a business and needs constant 6 - 8 week growth spurts to bring a higher share price to make investors happy and justify the CEO's compensation, but they are killing the goose with the golden egg to quickly. Companies that start to do these things always end up being sorry later. Again, HP syndrome.
If I were a shareholder I would be tempted to sell. It still has a high price not to mention all these ventures that quickly open and close cost money and show a company that is acting frantically desperate.
I was one of them and I ended up looking like an ass and proving those who hate change and love IE 7 right.
Will these users ever switch to Chrome? Hell, no! Remember Mr billly gates the last time we tried that when you said bla bla ... etc. Sigh
Look at www.statcounter.com for IE web usage in the US from July to November? It is rising and it all started when Asa opened his mouth in June. IE gained 5% market-share and even IE 7 gained points.
This tells me it is corporate America and I.T. companies porting business users to a more sane 10 year old supported IE browsers. I am angry even though I do find IE 9 & IE 10 excellent browsers. But why should I care? I am developing websites and I hate old IE and wish it would die. If I were the CEO of Mozilla, Asa would be fired so quickly and I would make a statement to corporate users we will continue to support the enterprise and we got your back. Ever since the CIO of Mozilla left to join Facebook the organization has went downhill.
For MS to be in that position again they would have to not only get 90% marketshare on the desktop, but also do the same on the mobile market which is exploding. In poorer countries not everyone has a landline phone or computer. However, most have cell phones. It will overtake desktop web browsing in a few years.
IE 10 is not proprietary at all and supports more standards than any other browser if you follow my link. The only thing that is proprietary are Windows is the xaml for Windows apps that use IE.
Google on the other hand is showing off HTML 5 sites that only work in Chrome and coming up with their own proprietary Dart scripting language. I am surprised none of the comments seen here mention that. They are determined to create lockin.
MS tried the proprietary position and IE 6 was its showcase. It worked for 5 years for everyone as corporate America loved a standard they could follow. By 2005 it backfired and Firefox was born. Corporations then refused to upgrade costing MS money because it was so expensive to leave IE 6 intranets behind. This caused it to implode when HTML 5 goodness from Andriod and IOS came leaving MS vulnerable.
They do not want to repeat and it makes more sense for MS to get developers on board and give customers a reason to upgrade every few years rather than decades like what happened with IE 6. MS realizes they screwed up and lost the browser wars 2.0 by sitting back from 1.0. I am not afraid at all.
Even if MS dominates and kills IOS and Andriod in 5 years enough mac users means 15% of web traffic will never be IE forcing webmasters to make sure their sites work with webkit.
I should submit that as a story but I am afraid I will be flamed to death as this is slashdot after all.
IE 10 is in beta I thought and is scheduled for release in March for Windows 7. A commentor in Ars Technica mentioned MS wants a yearly release of IE and March seems to be the month they prefer. My dream would be if MS would make a Windows 7 OEM CD with SP2 that came with IE 10 akin to IE 8 coming with winXP SP 3 cd, so that way we can start transitioning to HTML 5.
IE 8 is the only thing holding the desktop web browsing back and my fear is corporations will want to stay with it until 2019 when support ends leaving us using our phones for the best web experience. At least until IE 8 gets below 10% usage. ... but just a dream.
Ms is very serious about not wanting to lose again like they did with IE 6 and haivng Apple or Google cream them in HTML 5 applets. They blew it! This time if they use standards we all win and I believe they have to place nice this time around thanks to Chrome, Ipads, and driods accessing the internet.
Make the switch
IE 9 is a good browser actually if you are stuck on Windows. Chrome is decent too and very lightweight. Flash is updated automatically with it which is a plus too since it is the number one vector for malware attacks.
IE 10 which will come out in a few months is the most compliant browser to date and will have flash automatically update as well.
It is 2011 and not 2005 anymore. Infact, FF is the new IE 6 today and IE 10/Chrome are the new FF and Opera of old. A complete reversal. It seems every 6 years there is reversal with the browsers. First Netscape/Gecko was the best in 1993. 6 years later in 1999 IE is the king and Netscape 4.7/Gecko is bugy and slow. 6 years later in 2005 Firefox/gecko from the ashes of Netscape beat IE. Now in 2011 IE is returning with Chrome just behind.
It is not a big deal to switch as all you have to do is download and try one out. It is not like a Mac vs Pc decision with $$$$ involved. Change is hard but today there are alternatives that are very good. What would suck is if IE was still at IE6/7 and Chrome didn't exist. That would blow and piss people off. This is truly browser wars 2.0 and is exciting to watch. I am glad they returned as even IE users and corporations benefit from non-crappy browsers and innovation.
On Linux I prefer Chrome too. Mozilla uses the intel compiler and my old laptop is an AMD turrion and it shows whenever I hit a page with heavy javascript or multimedia. It could be because intel's compiler breaks IEEE standards and uses old i387 techniques for FPU but I am not a computer science major so I can't comment on that.
Do you use AMD processors on your Linux install? Still Chrome is not too bad and certainly is usable. FF also is behind on its Linux and MacOSX ports compared to Chrome. Does it even have OpenGL support yet?
Firefox would use more ram if it switched to a per process system in which you noticed. Even IE has had that since IE 8 which is the last bad version of IE and is ahead in that regards.
No we do not as we can be fired for any reason at all. ... however the promisory estopple prevents someone from being dishonest and causing financial harm to another via a promise or just being an ass to someone else who gets screwed. You would have to go this route and my guess is they will pay the fine but it will be cheaper to pay terminated employees half as much as the pre-IPO shares with a lawsuit then the full price. The workers with no financial resources will be willing to accept that from nothing and the bad guys win. Disgusting!
I want QA and not features. I think that is what Asa Doiltzer is ignorant of. It is not just corporate users but everybody.
Chrome is updated a little quick for me and has a few issues too due to the fast release cycle. But Google does a tremendous job fixing bugs within the next release and is miles ahead of FF. IE is now being updated annually every March too so I need not worry about it stagnating for 7 years before the next release. But it too has great QA work on it and it shows as it just works.
It is dying FAST. Truly pathetic is IE finally just got below 50% world wide! ... now it has returned :-(
Thanks Asa.
But the fact that Chrome is going down too shows that perhaps corporations and businesses are slowly switching back to IE as even IE 7 is actually gaining marketshare. Again thanks Asa.
IE 9 is not doing that well either so maybe 9.x is a jinxed version. :-)
You want to see Javascript boasts? You might be surprised at this.
I was a FF user since it was called Phoenix, and then Firebird when it was a set of patches for Mozilla. I have been advocating its use since 2004 and switched many computers and friends over. It was a great browser at one time. Unfortunately, its time is coming to an end unless drastic things improve.
To me FF in the 2010s is more similiar to the IE 6 of the 2000s I ran away from. Its rapid release schedule increased the popularity of IEin the US from users and corporations not liking FF anymore. Chrome according to that site is about tied with FF worldwide and will soon overtake it for #2.
The saddest thing for me is not the current state of FF. It is the fact that I am using IE more and more and preferring IE 9 over FF. IE 10 will give FF a run for its money and even Chrome next March when it is released. It is complete opposite of 2005 now and it is amazing it happened in such a very short period of time.
Fix your bugs Mozilla and I may come back like I did with IE. Until then I recommend everyone use Chrome or IE. FF is just too unreliable.
You know there are alternatives to Chrome. You may hate IE 6 like 90% of us slashdotters, but newer versions are shockingly better. As in hell freezes over better from that link!
I quit FF last March shortly after 4.0 and never looked back. Seriously it is the bottom of all modern web browsers. It is great that FF 7 and 8 are much lighter and load as quick as Chrome, but they have over 6000 bugs! FF is the new IE 6 of the 2010s and it pains me to say this as I have been using it since it was called phoenix and then firebird back in 2004.
Usage according to statcounter shows in the US IE is gaining marketshare and Chrome is about tied to FF. It is dying. Just like I use IE and Chrome now I am open to FF in the future if they decide they are caught up and start doing things like improving Javascript conformance like in that test above and fixing all those bugs. IE and Chrome are just better and work.
After a week you wont miss FF that much and will start wondering why you haven't left earlier. Trust me
I wonder if the employee shares are greater than 50%? If so they can fire teh CEO outright and replace him.
If it is just 10% they can sit on the board and convince other investors to gang up and fire the CEO as well. A threat of a lawsuit might do the trick.
Every place I worked is filled with douche-bags. Only 1 employer was not and that was a school district whose job was to educate children and not make money. Everyone company is there to make money only.
Still a promise was made and if it were the other way around Zynga would sue and cry foul.
I just thought of something?
If Zynga gave more than 10% of its shares to employees they can gang up together and fire the CEO too! I would certainly be fired for this if I worked there but I would get everyone together and form a mob outside the CEO's office. Explain that if they fire me and everyone else he will be fired too and we will replace him with a new CEO.
Lets see how he likes having his job threatened by blackmail? A deal is a deal
I am no lawyer but this sounds like a break in promissary estople. Basically, if someone gives you advice and you make a decision based on that advice and it causes financial harm on yourself you can sue to recover the losses.
They were promised IPO shares and to top it off they acted on it by buying them and taking employment. Now they get to lose them after they took their advice and financial harm because I doubt they would buy them back + they could have worked for someone else who *would* give them pre-IPO.
To top if off you are fired that is a financial loss too, but you were fired because you took a promise of IPOs which you were denied.
A lawyer would be drooling on this. CEOs are assholes and are known to do these things and sleep well at night and not care. The CEO could devalue everyone elses share to $0, but keep his high of course using accounting tricks. That is legal and a better thing to do if you want to be evil and steal. I hate to break it but no company has morals and only look at you as mathmatical functions that bring in money. Your sole existence is to make someone richer in corporation and they only care about money. I hate laywers but here this is good as it would force employers to fullfil their bargins they made when the CEO was a little guy and needed help.
What the CEO who had to work up to 6 whole hours a day in his lavish office with those 2 hour lunches and games of golf shouldn't take the credit. It was his and the upper managements ideas that created the company. Just like all the bank CEOs who work really hard producing things of value we take for granted. They need to be paid for such a hard life and creating all sorts of innovation. Thoughts magically create products and they call come from managers, directors, and CEOs only! Get with the program and when I say work you say minimum wage, you are costing the shareholders money!
I see more than that.
MS is terrified of the IPhone and missing out on tablets and sub netbooks. This is a decision by Bill Gates himself according to Ars Technica as he was called to evaluate the MS Courier Tablet to what the software group was doing with METRO to mimick IOS. Not from some lowly manager.
The first hurdle is that IE 7 sucks goatballs when the decision was made and IE 8 was still in development. HTML 5 was in the IPAD and being included rapidly by Google in webkit for Chrome and ANdriod mobile. Steve Jobs went as far as banning flash so the web can move forward.
MS saw the web as competitive again and also afraid the desktop browsing experience as being behind as a cheap $399 tablet can offer a much better browsing experience with html 5 and hardware acceleration, while the $999 desktop had crappy IE 8 with no hardware acceleration and mediocre html 4.
IE 9 is the first good IE since 2001 (IE 6 was great at the time), and IE 10 will be very competitive with Opera, Chrome, and FF and the focus is on html 5 in METRO mode. It will be the default renderer for their phones, tablets, and netbooks.
HTML 5 is a real shift and not a blow in the wind for MS to remain competitive and silverlight is desktop oriented anyway and not where MS wants to be where Google and Apple could eat them from the ground up. .NET is here to stay and even part of METRO development as a language to put all the AJAX and HTML 5 goodness in. Silverlight will stay for legacy and MS does have the right to remain competitive and I do not understand this fear of change. Slashdotters were once the drive of change and it is bizaare to see this.
This strategy is good even if you do not use Windows at all as it will give webmasters a go ahead to use HTML 5 which will benefit everyone.
HTML 5 is not going to happen with IE 8 gaining marketshare if anything from corporations who are terrified to update their browsers and 30% of the population who does not know what a browser is who uses what comes on their computer.
If MS is serious about HTML 5 this issue must be addressed as IE 9 is barely making inroads at all and IE 8 is still growing.
With Windows 8 going to flop unless MS does something to save the desktop portion in it, you can bet history will repeat itself in the 2010's being known as the decade of Win7 and IE 8.Very similiar to the 2000s as the decade of XP/IE 6. If MS includes IE 10 by default with win 7 sp 2 OEM or a enterprise edition there is hope we can abandon flash and silverlight and switch to HTML 5.
Until IE 8, 7, 6 get below 10% usage silverlight and flash are here to stay and HTML 5 is out expect for mobile devices for a long long time.
Personally, I think in 5 years I will do web browsing from my phone as it will be much more advanced with 3D, fonts with effects, animations, and video as the desktop web will be years behind unless the situation changes.
No he listend to others on slashdot on how Windows sucks soooo bad and Linux is king and is supperior.
Forget the fact that Windows doesn't BSOD like crazy anymore since XP, and that with Vista/w7 it is more secure. To the user the GUI is a very big deal more than if it is a macro or a micro kernel nerd geek debate or I am l33t look at my Apache setup?
So if you criticize him for picking KDE than what about Unity or Gnome-shell? Gee can you change the background, a functionality since macs had from 1986? NOPE. Lol.
To a user that is low quality and makes Linux look as advanced as DOS. It is embarasing and Linux folks would rather protect their ego and pride by bashing people instead who say Windows is better as idiots.
I no longer run Linux anymore for this reason. I need to create documents for clients and do web design. Windows has the tools and is much better than it was. I need a gui that will let me multitask with a great work flow. Only MacOSX and Windows can do that. The new guis suck big time and I am sure I am not the only one who gave up on Linux on the desktop