Hey Hairfeet have you tried IE at all in the last 6 months?
On my computer it loads only 1 second longer than Chrome and is close.
I am not saying it is perfect but unlike Mozilla and Google, MS is actually listening to its users and noticing IE to firefox/Chrome migrations. Go try IE 9 or IE 10 for Windows 8 preview if you have it and compare it to Commodo and Firefox? IE is the most secure web browser out there and it is nothing like IE 6 of last decade. It is even compiled with exception handling audits to prevent attacks and it uses scrambling memory addresses to inoperate buffer attacks. It seems Chromium is ahead for HTML 5 support, but IE has them beat for video acceleration and smooth scrolling if you have a nice GPU for overall user experience. Go try a video intensive website and hit the up and down arrow keys with all the browsers?
IE 10 will rival Comodo dragon as it scores 301 from www.html5test.com. It is almost out. If you have old customers like I do in Florida who refuse to run anything other than IE, IE 9 is certainly tollerable. IE 10 for W7 will be out in a few months and try any site with Windows 8 preview with it? It will rival Commodo.
If you have a job stuck at the office with a MS only policy, then IE 9/10 are certainly doable and even IE 8 is tollerable. I love competition and this time MS noticed as they want an excellent HTML 5 accelerated rending engine for Metro. If you have business customers where you work installing IE 9 will surely work.... unless of course you want them hacked all the time for repeat business;-)... then install XP with IE 7.
I was under the impression a modenr Icore 7 could do 70,000 mips. That is 70 billion instructions per second. With that and cheap ram you could get to 10 trillion digits in minutes. You can just page the previous digits to disk as you move along.
The Tea Party was unfocused too at first assuming you are more right leaning judging by your posts. Its message was a generalist hate spending and less taxes. It grew and got narrowed down over time.
This is the early formation of the other group.I don't think it is a leftist group per say and here are my arguments for that. As a conservative does it anger you that tax money was used to bail out banks? Does it bug you that all they did was loan it back to you as the tax payer in the form of lending back to the goverment with interest? Does it bother you that corporate interests are hurting chances for smaller businesses to suceed through more regulations aimed at the smaller ones? How about our government printing money to inflate our money supply more and punish savers with crappy interest rates?
I just gave conservative arguments to what the occupy movement stands for as I think they are pretty universal across the spectrum. True some cry unfair at student loans, and that some people want more goverment role who are left wing and also involved in this movement. From what I gather they are anti wall street, bailouts, and corrupt government. This hurts everyone regardless of spectrum and ideology. Many there are also out of work too with some who have been out for years who were not losers but had decent jobs and were laid off through no fault of their own. They have a right to be angry at the goverment printing money out. Oddly the far right and the far left can vote similiarly but for totally different reasons if you ask any political scientist.
WIth real unemploument pre-1994 standards at %16 and %22 for underemployment you can expect outrage and protests. This movement has anger across all spectrums in actually. Ron Paul even says they have a right to be upset and be there.
Yes these guys at Wall Street need to go to jail and I wonder what would of happened if we let the big banks die a horrible death. You can't say no to socialism and paying for dead beats, yet pay people who just loaned the money back to the government, bought yatchs, and provided no value to society?
The issue is Apple patented a rectangular screen. This should never have been patented as rectangular screens are standard for viewing video and running apps since the beginning of the PC revolution.
Apple is trying to patenta standard and a generic thing, just like Klenix or Xerox will sue and go all crazy if you use the term to any competitor. Apple can trademark and copyright designs.
But to me this is like Ford patenting 4 wheels and a sterring wheel. All non-Fords must have 3 weels etc. That is dangerous indeed and this judge is an idiot and may ban non Apple pads in the US just gathering from what I am hearing by this questioning. If I were the judge I would throw out the patent as you can't patent a shape that is a standard for viewing video. If you are going to patent something make it worthwhile and different.
I mean from 10 feet away how can you tell a Panasonic vs a LG TV? They look identical? See they support wide screen standards. It is sooo obvious they are stealing from Sony. After all they own supporting widescreen standards. Every other TV must be round! Ban all non Sony TVs.
THe issue you need is if your workstation isn't running.People can read things themselves and do a lot more than fixing a car as an analogy that someone put it.
Otherwise you need I.T. and not google an answer if the share with all the critical work files vanishes off their desktop or other work related issue that needs to get fixed ASAP so people can work.Obviously you can't give everyone administrative rights to play with sharepoint or a share on the network to troubleshoot it themselves.
I do marketing work as well as my usual IT and web design for small business. I live in Florida. Old people with money who have computers but are not very computer literate and dont want to change their ways who happen to have money. Hmm I wonder which browser they use? Gee, I wonder if they opened their browser of choice if they would manually go to www.google.com and make it their default search engine? Now lets take a guess what their browser of choice defaults to on their computer? It is pretty obvious Bing analytics and adsense all the way to market.
One customer is elderly but also wants to target younger people for marraige cruises leaving from Florida. In that case I setup and showed him how to do Google anayltics as even non-IT people our age tend to know better and know what a search engine even is.
But bing is useful for older people and corporations who have restrictions and like WIndows the way it is off of the company image and OEM which defaults to Microsoft's settings.
Bing now has 20 - 25% of the US market and growing.
I do marketing work as well as my usual IT and web design for small business. I live in Florida. Old people with money who have computers but are not very computer literate and dont want to change their ways who happen to have money. Hmm I wonder which browser they use? Gee, I wonder if they opened their browser of choice if they would manually go to www.google.com and make it their default search engine? Now lets take a guess what their browser of choice defaults to on their computer? It is pretty obvious Bing analytics and adsense all the way to market.
One customer is elderly but also wants to target younger people for marraige cruises leaving from Florida. In that case I setup and showed him how to do Google anayltics as even non-IT people our age tend to know better and know what a search engine even is.
But bing is useful for older people and corporations who have restrictions and like WIndows the way it is off of the company image and OEM which defaults to Microsoft's settings.
Bing now has 20 - 25% of the US market and growing. It is growing and with Windows tablets and WIndows phones starting to take off again it will become more popular.
Get an Asus. They have a netbook that can be a tablet also that Hairyfeet was mentioning for $499 with the AMD processor with a detachable keyboard. If you are on slashdot I assume you can do it yourself with a kit.
Download Windows 7 from the Pirate Bay to find out at least temporary. Windows 7 is a nice OS if you are not hurting on money. My hexcore system is slower under XP and most modern software with graphics is.
NoScript is simply not an option outside of Firefox. It is a pain to support for grandmas and others getting dialog boxes at every single site asking to block or open such and such. It is a pain like UAC for me personally.
Go to www.html5test.com? Chrome currently has the highest features supported, but IE 9 scores ok with HTML 5 canvas, font, and sound support. IE 10 scores 301 and will be competitive to both Firefox and Chrome in a few months.
MS fucked up big time and fully admitted to crippling IE 6 in order to create lock in and make proprietary win32 client apps more attractive. They are the reason those terrible intranet apps can be ported. What is odd is the web is supposed to be a full open platform that works on all devices. Instead, people dual booted to browse the web when IE had 90% marketshare. More anger is directed from web developers too. The web is 5 years behind where it should be thanks to IE.
FYI IE 9 is a great browser actually. IE 10 scores 301 in www.html5test.com and beats opera and safari! IE 10 will be very competitive even if most slashdotters want to burn it.
It will take some years but many people are skeptical or still use IE 7 at work and already made an opinion due to that. etc
Kudos though to Microsoft indeed. We have Apple to thank for the Iphone/IPAD for bring HTML 5 and good standards to the forefront. Now MS wants IE to be just as good as Metro could not happen with an IE 7 engine:-)
I remember you discussing this before when you asked a similar question before here on slashdot.... in regards to the assh*le who insulted you, I would not reply as he was a troll. I hope moderators reading this mod the AC down.:-) His Mommy forget his meds today to bring to the school nurse. Doh
Anyway if you develop internet sites for a living then yes upgrade. Or buy a new PC with Windows 7.
Did you know you can get a complete system for $399 that doesn't suck?
An AMD a8 llamo (integrated ATI 6800x HD inside the CPU),8 gigs of ram, 500 gig HD, is like $275 at Tiger Direct or your local PC shop! The costs will go up to $375 after Windows 7. $15 for 4 gigs of ram, $65 for a 500 gig drive, and $129 for a nice Llamo APU is a steal. The video performance is really much better due to the GPU sharing the ram controller with the CPU on the same chip. You can even play games in low to medium settings. You get Windows 7 and IE 9 and can see the video acceleration in action. When you are done your old box becomes a nice Unix server you can ssh to play with for web development. USB 3 support sounds nice too for a just a little more if you do video work and you get that benefit too from upgrading. It is cheap to do.
IE 8 use will decline and the newer IE's are totally different and you will need to support them.
IE 9 has 15% of the US market already and IE 10 will be out in a few months. Windows 8 that will also include it next summer. Worse, Microsoft is also switching to a more rapid release schedule. Nothing insane like Mozilla, but annual updates every March. By 2013 IE 11 will be out and by 2014, IE 12 will be out, etc.
Guess which OS wont be supported? I will let you take a guess.
Corporations who are not upgrading almost all universally plan to do so next year. IE 9 & IE 10 are about to become much more popular in the short term future.
If all you do is browse the web and not develop sites nor do I.T. support I would not bother to upgrading an older PC just for IE. Seriously. On my very old laptop I will say Windows 7 is certainly usable but not worth the cost if you just type papers. Windows XP is not necessarily lighter on quadcore CPUs with 2 or more gigs of ram. I assume that is why you still use it? Windows 7 has nice benefits and the search when you hit the Windows key and type the document or program you want are really nice. I could not live without it today. If you have a quadcore, 2 gigs of ram, and are hurting on cash I would download the Windows 7 enterprise evaluation and see if it works well and upgrade that way. Anything more than 3 years old I would buy or build a new pc instead.
I recommend build so you wont have crapware installed and can pick the components and quality etc.
Yep I started in community college. I have about $30,000 owed as I worked so I didn't end up with $60,000. My exwife owes $120,000 and was not that responsible. Hence the major reason for divorce. But I take responsibility and wonder how to get out. To graduate early I quit one job (it paid shit anyway) to focus on 18 units to graduate early so we could move and then the recession hit. I take whatever I can make now to survive, but I would never pay $30,000 for a car.
I am not alone and finding a job is TOUGH. I am not saying it is all Wall Streets fault, but they are a major culprit. If you are 23 and fresh out of school you can not work if you do not have experience and this is the catch 22. They have a right to protest and be angry
Their PC division is their number one cash cow. Things maybe razor thin for retailers but certainly HP. Notice how an $10 ram upgrade costs $50 when ordering? Or how they can give a 50% discount on corporate desktops when asked?
Their PC brand is their number one asset after they sold the rest of their profitable crap to agelient or whatever the name of that company is called. You always focus on your strengths and never deviate in another area if you want to survive by dumping the former.
They invested the costs and it is time to raise their prices after buying Compaq. You can't keep buying assets and selling them at a loss. To me this is no different than Walmart selling its store operations to focus on auto making or bringing in Bryers CEO to Yahoo so they can make ice cream. Its stupid and not what the companies do nor are its strengths. If they want to get into services do that but do not sell your cash cow or your image. No one in business will want to touch your stuff again otherwise
Well tell me where I can work? I have a four year degree. No jobs pay above $8/hr. I even worked at some of them. My exwfie has a masters degree and used to make $60,000 a year. She is on welfare. We are both in our 30s now. There are a few openings but about 25 people apply to each one all desperate for work.
Besides starting a business I can't see how I can move up as businesses are not hiring. IN good economic times in 2000 I could walk in at 22 and make $35,000 off the top of my head in many companies starting out. You can't now unless you have many years of experience, an MBA, and know the right people.
In economic depressions its not the persons fault. Just because it worked for you during the boom times of the mid 1980s doesn't mean it will work in deflationary period of the early 2010s. Times have changed John and these kids are angry not because they want to be rich by working 20 hours a week. But because of HUGE student loans debt and no jobs that are entry level exists
The Tea Parties were not organized at first and had no message other than they hated taxes back in 2008. That changed.
This is the early formation of a new movement which has been predicted for years. You can't have a 10% unemployment rate and a %18 long term un and under employment and not expect people to get off their couches. They needed something to take part in at first. There seems to be several different groups from angry students, lefities, to unemployed average Joes, all angry at Wall Street in which they should be. Not one organization which is why it is diverse and why no coherent message other than a unified theme so far.
Wall Street fucked up and hurt millions of people and affecting everyone with lower wages, poor savings rates, and unemployment. This is true even if you have a job. More than likely you or anyone else reading this knows of at least one friend, coworker, or family memember without a job. Revolutions happen when bad conditions like what we see in the US and soon Europe. CNN, Foxnews, and even slashdot have posters criticisng people for not getting off their butts and taking matters in their own hands and that one day it will come to America. It has
In this economy it does not add jobs. Just more debt. HR will not hire anyone who is not already working or has experience. If you work at mcdonalds and have a degree they will run and assume something must be wrong with this candidate if that is all he feels he is worth. These protestors did just that and still have no jobs
Actually credit card debt and precentage to income has been the lowest in years! People are paying it off and they are learning their lessons. This is part of the reason of the stalled recovery. Bernanke and friends keep trying to lower interest payments to punish savers and encourage people to spend. Right now people are spending on what htye need.
The fact that auto sales skyrocketed out of no where shows they held on to crappy cars too until the wheels fall off unlike the past.
All these things hurt short term but pay off long term. It does not revolve around the issue of jobs. If you are out of work how can you save? It frankly just sucks! The protestors are for this and feel more regulations are needed. Did you know at one time it was illegal to charge more than 6.5% on a card! You can't get out of debt when you pay 35% interest. Something has to be done.
Fairer trade and people spending again when debt is payed off and caps on interest rates will bring a recovery. The problem is this hurts Tea Partiers, Republicans, and the elite who are making more money than ever before and will fight to the death for their God Given Right to oppress and keep their change. Things are about to get ugly
Disclaimer I have expensive student loans I need to pay back too...
Part of the problem with debt is that it raises prices and causes inflation which in tern fuels more of a supply for debt until an evitable crash like 1929, 1873, and 2008. If student loans are handed out like candy, then prices go up. We are told to go to college or be poor and misserable for our entire lives, guess what we do? Go to school so we do not become losers. Now we pay many times more. Since everyone is doing it the colleges notice and raise their prices even higher. Then the government backs the loans and makes it impossible to bankrupt on them. More banks offer loans, colleges notice and raise rates again and so on until we end up where we are today.
Before you know it you are looking at $200,000 for a bachelors for a ivy league school and probably $100,000 for an ok private school, and $50,000 for a state school. How we are told to work at BestBuy yo should get a masters instead. Want to be nurse with a masters to get more money in this economy? That will be $60,000 additional money. See the issue?
The banks then loaned people insane money for homes and what did home owners do? Raise prices.
Pay it back you say? How? We have no jobs outside of McDonalds in this economy. Even if we get a job answering phones for $12 it wont cover the basics after you get a $1000 a month bill for the priveldge of answering phones. You need experience for a good job. You can't get experience without working first and it is a big mess and another cycle asshole HR is putting everyone through. Home owners pay your bills you say? How can someone making $60,000 a year afford a $375,000 home? Many are living off of top ramon just trying to keep their heads above.
There is too much debt to pay off. The whole thing is a scam. Infact 95% of our money is created of thin air from the banks. That site I listed has some pretty scary graphs and a must read for any economics guru.
I do plan on paying every penny back of course but I can't save for retirement until 40 and will have to put half my income away from retirement and live broke forever. What was the point of bettering myself through an education? That pisses me off. I put off school because of debt and didn't want to pay student loans. All I could get was $10/hr without that magical peice of paper. What was I supposed to do? I am one. These people represent th 100,000 people like me. Many who are formerly wealthy that got laid off are also joining too because they can't get back to where they were. Paying livable wages is not profitable when overseas labor is involved.
I blame myself actually unlike most protestors and do not want sympathy. My point is when you have under employment and long term unemployment at %20 heads will roll! The banks all played a part mixed with the government for all the examples I cited above due to deregulation and greedy and stupid bankers and customers alike. However, only the customer gets shafted.
It was posted 10 years ago on slashdot that MS dictated to all the hardware manufactures that this is the way Windows 2000/XP kernel does APM. Go fix your bios because we aint changing it! Almost paraphrased word by word with buggy ACPI and APM. So because people still run XP, the bios has to work around a Windows specific bug.
It is a two way street when more than manufactor owns the software and a different owns the hardware. Bugs are on both sides and both have 30 years of errata and bugs that emulate off of each other in order to function. Linux sadly, has to produce Windows specific bugs in order to have APM work properly as all the hardware makers care about is Microsoft.
I hate the MS bashing here more than anyone as I prefer MS more and more these days. But it is deserved here. What are you going to do if you are Dell with a great APM but XP doesn't work the way it was designed to spec? Say no, big bad MS our bios is fine go fix XP with a service pack? Imagine how their customers would feel? Would they blame Microsoft? I think not. They would blame Dell and go buy HPs etc.
So Dell reflashes their bios so MS doesn't have to fix their bug etc.
Both Linus and Alan Cox have said this numerous times and is one of the reasons people want to switch to EFI. The bios has 30 years of fixes, updates to bugs, and other nasties. I only assume the Windows kernel does the same exact things to bugs from the 1980s that are there for compatiblity reasons. Shudder
Oracle didn't even make the VM. Some research student did.
That is like you inventing some cool thing and someone uses and then I sue claiming I own your product. How would you feel? This is exactly what Oracle is doing and I think it is dangerous as anything that looks like Java can now be a liability. Another judge can quote this case as proof based on his ruling and so far he is favoring Oracle.
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Hey Hairfeet have you tried IE at all in the last 6 months?
On my computer it loads only 1 second longer than Chrome and is close.
I am not saying it is perfect but unlike Mozilla and Google, MS is actually listening to its users and noticing IE to firefox/Chrome migrations. Go try IE 9 or IE 10 for Windows 8 preview if you have it and compare it to Commodo and Firefox? IE is the most secure web browser out there and it is nothing like IE 6 of last decade. It is even compiled with exception handling audits to prevent attacks and it uses scrambling memory addresses to inoperate buffer attacks. It seems Chromium is ahead for HTML 5 support, but IE has them beat for video acceleration and smooth scrolling if you have a nice GPU for overall user experience. Go try a video intensive website and hit the up and down arrow keys with all the browsers?
IE 10 will rival Comodo dragon as it scores 301 from www.html5test.com. It is almost out. If you have old customers like I do in Florida who refuse to run anything other than IE, IE 9 is certainly tollerable. IE 10 for W7 will be out in a few months and try any site with Windows 8 preview with it? It will rival Commodo.
If you have a job stuck at the office with a MS only policy, then IE 9/10 are certainly doable and even IE 8 is tollerable. I love competition and this time MS noticed as they want an excellent HTML 5 accelerated rending engine for Metro. If you have business customers where you work installing IE 9 will surely work. ... unless of course you want them hacked all the time for repeat business ;-) ... then install XP with IE 7.
I was under the impression a modenr Icore 7 could do 70,000 mips. That is 70 billion instructions per second. With that and cheap ram you could get to 10 trillion digits in minutes. You can just page the previous digits to disk as you move along.
Am I missing something?
I disagree.
The Tea Party was unfocused too at first assuming you are more right leaning judging by your posts. Its message was a generalist hate spending and less taxes. It grew and got narrowed down over time.
This is the early formation of the other group.I don't think it is a leftist group per say and here are my arguments for that. As a conservative does it anger you that tax money was used to bail out banks? Does it bug you that all they did was loan it back to you as the tax payer in the form of lending back to the goverment with interest? Does it bother you that corporate interests are hurting chances for smaller businesses to suceed through more regulations aimed at the smaller ones? How about our government printing money to inflate our money supply more and punish savers with crappy interest rates?
I just gave conservative arguments to what the occupy movement stands for as I think they are pretty universal across the spectrum. True some cry unfair at student loans, and that some people want more goverment role who are left wing and also involved in this movement. From what I gather they are anti wall street, bailouts, and corrupt government. This hurts everyone regardless of spectrum and ideology. Many there are also out of work too with some who have been out for years who were not losers but had decent jobs and were laid off through no fault of their own. They have a right to be angry at the goverment printing money out. Oddly the far right and the far left can vote similiarly but for totally different reasons if you ask any political scientist.
WIth real unemploument pre-1994 standards at %16 and %22 for underemployment you can expect outrage and protests. This movement has anger across all spectrums in actually. Ron Paul even says they have a right to be upset and be there.
Yes these guys at Wall Street need to go to jail and I wonder what would of happened if we let the big banks die a horrible death. You can't say no to socialism and paying for dead beats, yet pay people who just loaned the money back to the government, bought yatchs, and provided no value to society?
The issue is Apple patented a rectangular screen. This should never have been patented as rectangular screens are standard for viewing video and running apps since the beginning of the PC revolution.
Apple is trying to patenta standard and a generic thing, just like Klenix or Xerox will sue and go all crazy if you use the term to any competitor. Apple can trademark and copyright designs.
But to me this is like Ford patenting 4 wheels and a sterring wheel. All non-Fords must have 3 weels etc. That is dangerous indeed and this judge is an idiot and may ban non Apple pads in the US just gathering from what I am hearing by this questioning. If I were the judge I would throw out the patent as you can't patent a shape that is a standard for viewing video. If you are going to patent something make it worthwhile and different.
I couldn't agree with you more!
I mean from 10 feet away how can you tell a Panasonic vs a LG TV? They look identical? See they support wide screen standards. It is sooo obvious they are stealing from Sony. After all they own supporting widescreen standards. Every other TV must be round! Ban all non Sony TVs.
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THe issue you need is if your workstation isn't running.People can read things themselves and do a lot more than fixing a car as an analogy that someone put it.
Otherwise you need I.T. and not google an answer if the share with all the critical work files vanishes off their desktop or other work related issue that needs to get fixed ASAP so people can work.Obviously you can't give everyone administrative rights to play with sharepoint or a share on the network to troubleshoot it themselves.
I do.
I do marketing work as well as my usual IT and web design for small business. I live in Florida. Old people with money who have computers but are not very computer literate and dont want to change their ways who happen to have money. Hmm I wonder which browser they use? Gee, I wonder if they opened their browser of choice if they would manually go to www.google.com and make it their default search engine? Now lets take a guess what their browser of choice defaults to on their computer? It is pretty obvious Bing analytics and adsense all the way to market.
One customer is elderly but also wants to target younger people for marraige cruises leaving from Florida. In that case I setup and showed him how to do Google anayltics as even non-IT people our age tend to know better and know what a search engine even is.
But bing is useful for older people and corporations who have restrictions and like WIndows the way it is off of the company image and OEM which defaults to Microsoft's settings.
Bing now has 20 - 25% of the US market and growing.
I do.
I do marketing work as well as my usual IT and web design for small business. I live in Florida. Old people with money who have computers but are not very computer literate and dont want to change their ways who happen to have money. Hmm I wonder which browser they use? Gee, I wonder if they opened their browser of choice if they would manually go to www.google.com and make it their default search engine? Now lets take a guess what their browser of choice defaults to on their computer? It is pretty obvious Bing analytics and adsense all the way to market.
One customer is elderly but also wants to target younger people for marraige cruises leaving from Florida. In that case I setup and showed him how to do Google anayltics as even non-IT people our age tend to know better and know what a search engine even is.
But bing is useful for older people and corporations who have restrictions and like WIndows the way it is off of the company image and OEM which defaults to Microsoft's settings.
Bing now has 20 - 25% of the US market and growing. It is growing and with Windows tablets and WIndows phones starting to take off again it will become more popular.
That wouldn't to happen to be Stream or any AOL subisidary would it?
Get an Asus. They have a netbook that can be a tablet also that Hairyfeet was mentioning for $499 with the AMD processor with a detachable keyboard. If you are on slashdot I assume you can do it yourself with a kit.
Download Windows 7 from the Pirate Bay to find out at least temporary. Windows 7 is a nice OS if you are not hurting on money. My hexcore system is slower under XP and most modern software with graphics is.
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Very factual comment.
NoScript is simply not an option outside of Firefox. It is a pain to support for grandmas and others getting dialog boxes at every single site asking to block or open such and such. It is a pain like UAC for me personally.
Go to www.html5test.com? Chrome currently has the highest features supported, but IE 9 scores ok with HTML 5 canvas, font, and sound support. IE 10 scores 301 and will be competitive to both Firefox and Chrome in a few months.
MS fucked up big time and fully admitted to crippling IE 6 in order to create lock in and make proprietary win32 client apps more attractive. They are the reason those terrible intranet apps can be ported. What is odd is the web is supposed to be a full open platform that works on all devices. Instead, people dual booted to browse the web when IE had 90% marketshare. More anger is directed from web developers too. The web is 5 years behind where it should be thanks to IE.
FYI IE 9 is a great browser actually. IE 10 scores 301 in www.html5test.com and beats opera and safari! IE 10 will be very competitive even if most slashdotters want to burn it.
It will take some years but many people are skeptical or still use IE 7 at work and already made an opinion due to that. etc
Kudos though to Microsoft indeed. We have Apple to thank for the Iphone/IPAD for bring HTML 5 and good standards to the forefront. Now MS wants IE to be just as good as Metro could not happen with an IE 7 engine :-)
I remember you discussing this before when you asked a similar question before here on slashdot. ... in regards to the assh*le who insulted you, I would not reply as he was a troll. I hope moderators reading this mod the AC down. :-) His Mommy forget his meds today to bring to the school nurse. Doh
Anyway if you develop internet sites for a living then yes upgrade. Or buy a new PC with Windows 7.
Did you know you can get a complete system for $399 that doesn't suck?
An AMD a8 llamo (integrated ATI 6800x HD inside the CPU),8 gigs of ram, 500 gig HD, is like $275 at Tiger Direct or your local PC shop! The costs will go up to $375 after Windows 7. $15 for 4 gigs of ram, $65 for a 500 gig drive, and $129 for a nice Llamo APU is a steal. The video performance is really much better due to the GPU sharing the ram controller with the CPU on the same chip. You can even play games in low to medium settings. You get Windows 7 and IE 9 and can see the video acceleration in action. When you are done your old box becomes a nice Unix server you can ssh to play with for web development. USB 3 support sounds nice too for a just a little more if you do video work and you get that benefit too from upgrading. It is cheap to do.
IE 8 use will decline and the newer IE's are totally different and you will need to support them.
IE 9 has 15% of the US market already and IE 10 will be out in a few months. Windows 8 that will also include it next summer. Worse, Microsoft is also switching to a more rapid release schedule. Nothing insane like Mozilla, but annual updates every March. By 2013 IE 11 will be out and by 2014, IE 12 will be out, etc.
Guess which OS wont be supported? I will let you take a guess.
Corporations who are not upgrading almost all universally plan to do so next year. IE 9 & IE 10 are about to become much more popular in the short term future.
If all you do is browse the web and not develop sites nor do I.T. support I would not bother to upgrading an older PC just for IE. Seriously. On my very old laptop I will say Windows 7 is certainly usable but not worth the cost if you just type papers. Windows XP is not necessarily lighter on quadcore CPUs with 2 or more gigs of ram. I assume that is why you still use it? Windows 7 has nice benefits and the search when you hit the Windows key and type the document or program you want are really nice. I could not live without it today. If you have a quadcore, 2 gigs of ram, and are hurting on cash I would download the Windows 7 enterprise evaluation and see if it works well and upgrade that way. Anything more than 3 years old I would buy or build a new pc instead.
I recommend build so you wont have crapware installed and can pick the components and quality etc.
Yep I started in community college. I have about $30,000 owed as I worked so I didn't end up with $60,000. My exwife owes $120,000 and was not that responsible. Hence the major reason for divorce. But I take responsibility and wonder how to get out. To graduate early I quit one job (it paid shit anyway) to focus on 18 units to graduate early so we could move and then the recession hit. I take whatever I can make now to survive, but I would never pay $30,000 for a car.
I am not alone and finding a job is TOUGH. I am not saying it is all Wall Streets fault, but they are a major culprit. If you are 23 and fresh out of school you can not work if you do not have experience and this is the catch 22. They have a right to protest and be angry
Their PC division is their number one cash cow. Things maybe razor thin for retailers but certainly HP. Notice how an $10 ram upgrade costs $50 when ordering? Or how they can give a 50% discount on corporate desktops when asked?
Their PC brand is their number one asset after they sold the rest of their profitable crap to agelient or whatever the name of that company is called. You always focus on your strengths and never deviate in another area if you want to survive by dumping the former.
They invested the costs and it is time to raise their prices after buying Compaq. You can't keep buying assets and selling them at a loss. To me this is no different than Walmart selling its store operations to focus on auto making or bringing in Bryers CEO to Yahoo so they can make ice cream. Its stupid and not what the companies do nor are its strengths. If they want to get into services do that but do not sell your cash cow or your image. No one in business will want to touch your stuff again otherwise
Well tell me where I can work? I have a four year degree. No jobs pay above $8/hr. I even worked at some of them. My exwfie has a masters degree and used to make $60,000 a year. She is on welfare. We are both in our 30s now. There are a few openings but about 25 people apply to each one all desperate for work.
Besides starting a business I can't see how I can move up as businesses are not hiring. IN good economic times in 2000 I could walk in at 22 and make $35,000 off the top of my head in many companies starting out. You can't now unless you have many years of experience, an MBA, and know the right people.
In economic depressions its not the persons fault. Just because it worked for you during the boom times of the mid 1980s doesn't mean it will work in deflationary period of the early 2010s. Times have changed John and these kids are angry not because they want to be rich by working 20 hours a week. But because of HUGE student loans debt and no jobs that are entry level exists
The Tea Parties were not organized at first and had no message other than they hated taxes back in 2008. That changed.
This is the early formation of a new movement which has been predicted for years. You can't have a 10% unemployment rate and a %18 long term un and under employment and not expect people to get off their couches. They needed something to take part in at first. There seems to be several different groups from angry students, lefities, to unemployed average Joes, all angry at Wall Street in which they should be. Not one organization which is why it is diverse and why no coherent message other than a unified theme so far.
Wall Street fucked up and hurt millions of people and affecting everyone with lower wages, poor savings rates, and unemployment. This is true even if you have a job. More than likely you or anyone else reading this knows of at least one friend, coworker, or family memember without a job. Revolutions happen when bad conditions like what we see in the US and soon Europe. CNN, Foxnews, and even slashdot have posters criticisng people for not getting off their butts and taking matters in their own hands and that one day it will come to America. It has
In this economy it does not add jobs. Just more debt. HR will not hire anyone who is not already working or has experience. If you work at mcdonalds and have a degree they will run and assume something must be wrong with this candidate if that is all he feels he is worth. These protestors did just that and still have no jobs
Actually credit card debt and precentage to income has been the lowest in years! People are paying it off and they are learning their lessons. This is part of the reason of the stalled recovery. Bernanke and friends keep trying to lower interest payments to punish savers and encourage people to spend. Right now people are spending on what htye need.
The fact that auto sales skyrocketed out of no where shows they held on to crappy cars too until the wheels fall off unlike the past.
All these things hurt short term but pay off long term. It does not revolve around the issue of jobs. If you are out of work how can you save? It frankly just sucks! The protestors are for this and feel more regulations are needed. Did you know at one time it was illegal to charge more than 6.5% on a card! You can't get out of debt when you pay 35% interest. Something has to be done.
Fairer trade and people spending again when debt is payed off and caps on interest rates will bring a recovery. The problem is this hurts Tea Partiers, Republicans, and the elite who are making more money than ever before and will fight to the death for their God Given Right to oppress and keep their change. Things are about to get ugly
Their message is quite clear. They hate the bailouts, the oppression, the control they have on the government, and the unfair free trade agreements.
Disclaimer I have expensive student loans I need to pay back too ...
Part of the problem with debt is that it raises prices and causes inflation which in tern fuels more of a supply for debt until an evitable crash like 1929, 1873, and 2008. If student loans are handed out like candy, then prices go up. We are told to go to college or be poor and misserable for our entire lives, guess what we do? Go to school so we do not become losers. Now we pay many times more. Since everyone is doing it the colleges notice and raise their prices even higher. Then the government backs the loans and makes it impossible to bankrupt on them. More banks offer loans, colleges notice and raise rates again and so on until we end up where we are today.
Before you know it you are looking at $200,000 for a bachelors for a ivy league school and probably $100,000 for an ok private school, and $50,000 for a state school. How we are told to work at BestBuy yo should get a masters instead. Want to be nurse with a masters to get more money in this economy? That will be $60,000 additional money. See the issue?
The banks then loaned people insane money for homes and what did home owners do? Raise prices.
Pay it back you say? How? We have no jobs outside of McDonalds in this economy. Even if we get a job answering phones for $12 it wont cover the basics after you get a $1000 a month bill for the priveldge of answering phones. You need experience for a good job. You can't get experience without working first and it is a big mess and another cycle asshole HR is putting everyone through. Home owners pay your bills you say? How can someone making $60,000 a year afford a $375,000 home? Many are living off of top ramon just trying to keep their heads above.
There is too much debt to pay off. The whole thing is a scam. Infact 95% of our money is created of thin air from the banks. That site I listed has some pretty scary graphs and a must read for any economics guru.
I do plan on paying every penny back of course but I can't save for retirement until 40 and will have to put half my income away from retirement and live broke forever. What was the point of bettering myself through an education? That pisses me off. I put off school because of debt and didn't want to pay student loans. All I could get was $10/hr without that magical peice of paper. What was I supposed to do? I am one. These people represent th 100,000 people like me. Many who are formerly wealthy that got laid off are also joining too because they can't get back to where they were. Paying livable wages is not profitable when overseas labor is involved.
I blame myself actually unlike most protestors and do not want sympathy. My point is when you have under employment and long term unemployment at %20 heads will roll! The banks all played a part mixed with the government for all the examples I cited above due to deregulation and greedy and stupid bankers and customers alike. However, only the customer gets shafted.
The Tea Party had no focus either.
They hated big government, taxes, and deficits and didn't like where the country was going.
In time they created a message and become unified and are now a political force that can strong arm any republican to the far right in the primaries.
It was posted 10 years ago on slashdot that MS dictated to all the hardware manufactures that this is the way Windows 2000/XP kernel does APM. Go fix your bios because we aint changing it! Almost paraphrased word by word with buggy ACPI and APM. So because people still run XP, the bios has to work around a Windows specific bug.
It is a two way street when more than manufactor owns the software and a different owns the hardware. Bugs are on both sides and both have 30 years of errata and bugs that emulate off of each other in order to function. Linux sadly, has to produce Windows specific bugs in order to have APM work properly as all the hardware makers care about is Microsoft.
I hate the MS bashing here more than anyone as I prefer MS more and more these days. But it is deserved here. What are you going to do if you are Dell with a great APM but XP doesn't work the way it was designed to spec? Say no, big bad MS our bios is fine go fix XP with a service pack? Imagine how their customers would feel? Would they blame Microsoft? I think not. They would blame Dell and go buy HPs etc.
So Dell reflashes their bios so MS doesn't have to fix their bug etc.
Both Linus and Alan Cox have said this numerous times and is one of the reasons people want to switch to EFI. The bios has 30 years of fixes, updates to bugs, and other nasties. I only assume the Windows kernel does the same exact things to bugs from the 1980s that are there for compatiblity reasons. Shudder
Oracle didn't even make the VM. Some research student did.
That is like you inventing some cool thing and someone uses and then I sue claiming I own your product. How would you feel? This is exactly what Oracle is doing and I think it is dangerous as anything that looks like Java can now be a liability. Another judge can quote this case as proof based on his ruling and so far he is favoring Oracle.