There are at least 30 things that Windows 7 is ahead compared to XP. I do not even know where to begin. It is like saying what is so different from my 1938 to a car from today.
For #1 people who still use XP never upgrade and therefore use IE. That is how I got to that conclusion if you follow statistics. Html 5 on Windows 7 is hardware accelerated and can do visuals that only tablets and smartphones can do with smooth fast scrolling and hardware accelerated font redering. DirectX11 provides much of these features not to mention HTML 5 has other things besides just video. Drag and drop, progress bars, worker threads for multi core systems, and even offline data storage for when you have no wifi to do your work in intranet apps. The ones today really suck because they are designed for IE 6 and in 5 or 6 years you will see them look more like iPhone apps and know what I am talking about.
XP is holding it back.
XP is suspectible to bit rot, it is insecure, has no GPU accelerated graphics, and was designed when internet meant WWW with dialup for simple websites that resembled minspring and craigslist. I do not have the space to go into details but even with up to date Windows Updates it still has design flaws that make it insecure even if you use another browser. If you are refering to ram, keep in mind you are not seeing the whole the picture as Windows 7 will cache it. At $15 per gig that is not a big deal anymore. I have a 3.5 year old laptop with just 2 gigs of ram and I can multitask and run photoshop on it fine with Windows 7. Its age does show but that is due to the slow cpu and graphics. It is certainly usable.
The reason to pick a mac for photoshop is because the monitors and color calibration suck goatballs on a PC. Windows 7 closes the later problem with great ICC color management support. Still, even the best of PC monitors fade in light and color saturation change in angles. Only Lenovo had mac like quality screens but they are now cheap. The smaller imacs have crappy screens too so I dunno, but it was the hardware rather than the software for these users.
I just had to use it for something and I thought it would be a quick ordeal like Paint.net. It took days and was a hair pulling experience to get anything done. I have never seen such a pinicky program... since like autocad for DOS. But even Autocad didn't do strange things if you didn't know what laywers were like Photoshop. I still prefer MS publisher for simple things as paintbrushes do not work 50% of the time for some reason and only the pencil will pick the right color from the picker? I have no clue what I am doing wrong here.
Dreamwaver is fine for a few things but difficult with other stuff. People laugh at Mac users thinking they are idiots who do not know complexity or how to use a computer. The opposite is true if they use photoshop.
They freaked out when they realized they couldn't sell useless anti virus software and office for each PC sold. This is how their sales people are compensated. Each PC sold even has the BestBuy installer so they can get you after you bring the new PC home.
Windows 7 can run great on these netbooks now with atoms and soon ARMs with Windows 8. But retailers and corporations depend on proprietary win32 software
Mine BSOD occasionally. W2k didn't have that problem and SP 2 finally fixed that so it was not a driver issue but a bug in XP. XP did have its issues for the first 4 years.
Agreed. However, the good news is I see less XP loyalists on slashdot than in the past whenever an XP article showed up. Usually I see people talking about the benefits of W7 being modded down and those being modded up showing how cool they are for using a 10 year old kernel and how it is the greatest one ever built and why change, at the same time they own a state of the art Ipad but expect their expensive computer to be obsolete.
In the good old days I remembered when slashdotters were cutting edge and actually wanted to use newer software and were respected at work rather than lets not rock the boat and you kids do not understand what it takes to upgrade bla bla.
XP was not perfect at all for the first 5 years as it had issues with security, plug and play, and other things that finally went away by 2006. It has aged but also matured somewhat which is why people are afraid to change it. Vista and betting on using bad software versions and the rise of financial engineering genuises who run I.T. based on cutting costs are keeping XP on for dear life with many companies. The good ones are migrating to Windows 7 next year from what I read. Thank God
Actually, I had a habit of picking less reliable hardware on purpose for that reason. Cha-ching!
Personally, I do wonder if some of this crappy intranet software from companies like Sap use simply = instead of >= statements regarding versions so they can simply change the javascript file and charge $5,000 for the same app in a newer IE?
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Virii galore. XP was made when people still ran AOL and the internet was the world wide web with dialup and ran simple sites that resembled craigslist. Those are the disadvantages of still using it.
My kids always clicked on whatever popped up. UGH I explained to them not do it but they do not understand such things as tricking and hacking computers are out of their comprehension. They play flash games with pop ups and can't tell between the game and a malware ad with the same kiddy graphics at these sites from a compromised ad server. They did always use Firefox as they knew not to use IE but still.
Windows 7 is much more secure due to random ram addressing, better data execution prevention, and so on. Also parental controls are nice in Windows 7 for your kid but I do not know if the website blocking will work outside of IE. I guess IE 9 is secure enough like a modern browser.That is a nice feature too.
Is it worth the $130 price tag? Well, I would just get a new machine if it gets infected with W7 rather than upgrade if I were you. If it is a newer machine less than 3 years old it might be worth it if your wife has anything important on it like work files. But that is your call. There are advantages to upgrading as XP is showing its age.
There are were a few bad apples in the early to even mid life of XP with plug and play too.
Soyo and a few other motherboard makes had issues with ACPI. Linux began with power management disabled or set to software only while XP had the same problems with these boards too where a machine would hibernate but wake up with sound gone etc.
Also remember the Dells where the IRQ routing tried to all use IRQ 11 and cause BSOD and conflicts? Even if you had all the IRQs free the Dells and a few Asus would all try to use only IRQ 11 and cause shitty graphics performance and network disconnects due to the conflicts. Ah those were the days.:-)
I do not know how much was hardware vs buggy plug and play with W2k/XP, but after 2006 they were removed and Xp finally got stable. Unfortunately by 2006 it was already becoming old, dated, and crusty.
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That was a typo with the 380. I meant 370.
With Mozilla publically stating it hates enteprise users and it wont ever support them it is now a liability to use a non MS browser. Gee, thanks Asa for making the MCSE PHBs look like geniuses.
How are you going to run IE 6 and a later version of IE? My guess is through an emulator of some sort which is the point of my post. Once that is up it gives the suites little advantage to keep developing proprietary XP/IE 6 only apps and the cost accountants will cry and whine if you dare upgrade with no emulator at all.
Emulators suck and have big disadvantages and do not integrate well with other apps. I mean simply cut and pasting just came out a few years ago with virtualbox. Sharing files is a nightmare and you need to setup shared folders as administrator last I looked at VMWare (unacceptable in a corporate environment), but I do not support it on a daily basis.
Still some internet sites will still require IE 6 that corporate users use so it will never go away even if it is much cheaper in the long run, the cost accountants run the show for quarterly gains. It is a big mess and will be one of XPs biggest legacies of all time sadly.
On my hexcore box with an ati 5750 there is a huge FPS drop on XP compared to Windows 7. Even an older game like World of Warcraft gets only 19 fps on XP. With DirectX11 it gets 40 fps.
With 8 gigs of ram saving 64 megs is laughable much like installing 15k cache cards from the early 1980s on pcs that came out later. With crappy drivers for XP like NVidia who actually states it wont release drives for newer hardware for it and my experience with ATI I can say games will ditch XP. IN the US less than 1 out of 4 people use XP anymre and I bet 1/3 of those are corporations.The rest are older systems which gaming companies do not want to support. The Chinese skew the statistic since they have more pcs as the entire US that run pirated XP.
XP is dying. It will stay like COBOL does in an array of emulators for decades to come in server rooms across the world but running it on the actual iron is dying. Newer CPUs like the Bulldozer suck on XP, and even Windows 7, but run great on Windows 8. Hardware just doesn't run faster on older operating systems.
Time to move on seriously. What if the world hung on to Windows 3.0 and Mosiac when XP came out? Thats what was hot 1991 and the net would not have Yahoo,... maybe a simple Google, nor Amazon in 2001 when XP came out if corps and people acted that way back then.
Old standards are holding technology back. XP is keeping flash alive and HTML 5 out. Even Windows 7's IE 8 is 2.5 years old? That is old now since even IE is on an anual update schedule as much as the PHBs want to cry and whine.
XP was a fine but insecure OS when it came out. But it is time to move on as we are entering a different age in computing.
Lesson #1 when a customer tells you to do something you do it. They have your paycheck in their wallets. If they say jump you say how far, so you can get that paycheck. In this economy you have to suck it up.
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IE 9 fixes that. Leaving XP behind is a necessity as business users will never leave IE ever. But I doubt that would help.
My fear is that your grandchildren who want to get to do I.T. 50 years from now will need to learn IE 6 racing conditions, minimal CSS 1.0 support, and many bugs for intranet apps still being developed in 2061 will still require IE 6 in run in 2 emulators ala COBOL is today. Major banks run 40 year old software with IBM 360 emulators still.
I want to laugh but it is not fair to the poor sap in the future who you know will do this.... and yes IBM 380 apps in COBOL will still be running in emulators too as well as SCO. Cost accountants just wont let anyone upgrade.
So your rant on SNI support wont matter as the big corps plan to run IE 6 for the next 30 to 50 years so they can save on upgrade costs and commercial portals and sites will still need to support XP and IE 6 then.
Some of the iCore 5s have hyperthreading, some have virtualization instructions, while others do not. Even if you select a CPU that has them you could end up with a bios wont let you turn them on. HP has been known for example of doing this since the P4 days. They sell 2 identical ones but the flash wiht the hyperthreading turned on costs $300 more. They are the same otherwise.You really do not know if you buy such a system that it can run VMware or Virtualbox because of this so look out a head of time.
You are right on with Intel. God help you if you have a 2007 era TurionM like I have on my laptop. Yes even the Linux version of Firefox is compiled with the Intel compiler. Firefox 3.6 was slow at times but tollerable on Linux with it. Firefox 4 is bad. Chrome was much better on Linux. I miss the old fast phoenix days of Firefox but with Asa employed it is dead. I have Windows on that laptop now and still use Chrome and IE 9 and refuse to put Firefox back on it. I put in a 7200 RPM drive too. Page loads and javascript just seem to time out if there is too much of a load under FF. At least thats what it feels like and the scrolling is dog slow with no usability testing. Just fast releases in which Asa mysteriously thinks that will bring 1 billion users.
Chrome and now MS at least, are focusing on that and makeing it feel fast and decent for browsing experiences rather than supporting xyz for some unfinished spec that no one will use for 4 years.
I have an aging laptop that used to run Firefox for Linux and Windows. It is just too slow when runnning things like www.msnbc.com. I switched to Chrome on Linux and use IE 9 and Chrome for Windows. I would say even IE 8 or IE 9 is better than Firefox if you have a slow system. IE 7 is truly horrible. I had font issues too with Ubuntu. Switched to Fedora/CentOS and they went away. Ubuntuy does not use standard font settings in Xorg and refuse to patch bugs assuming that is your problem too that I had.
I was just explaining to Hairyfeet too that GPU is the weakest in Chrome even if it is liter so it depends on what you value. Did you remember to go to about:flags in Chrome and turn on Hardware Accelerated Canvas? I do not know if it works on Linux as I quit that OS last March due to Gnome3 and Unity but I know on my computer it is 2d by default. I hope your office upgrades soon as IE 7 is a security nightmare compared to their latest cousins in Windows 7 which I find shocking decent. Especially IE 9/10 that has the best font and graphics rendering available.
Sounds like I could trade your system for a nice car.
If he is trying to save cash I do not think your solution is cost effective. However, you can get systems now for cheap with 8 gigs of ram and at least a hex core that could run software development fine. I do admit simulating server loads wont work but that is why you try to get the boss to pay for it then:-)
I will also add to buy an AMD dekstop to do this since he mentioned cost effective. For $499 you can get a Llamo with virtualization instructions with 8 gigs of ram. That can run 4 VMs for cheap. Intel chipsets tend to support ICores with virtualization instructions but disable them in the bios on purpose forcing you to pay more. All AMDs have the ability to turn them on by default.
For that price it is a great deal. Also if you hate virtualbox you can download a trial of VMWare workstation and create the VMs and then uninstall the trial and use the free VM Player to run the images you just created too which is nice.
On my system that is only $699, I can run 4 VMs of XP or CentOS with 1.5 gigs per VM as XP and Linux are not resource intensive which is a 6 core system. It is sweet I can compile code, run XP and play World of Warcraft for that price with it all working flawlessly. It is silly as I do this just to test HTML for obsolete browser from some popular company in the Pacific Northwest, which would be laughable in an ideal universie but that is life until business finally ditches it and the 10 year old kernels. UGH
But with cheap hardware and 1 gig of ram costing $15 each it is inexpensive to do and you feel like you own a mainframe. But VMs all the way
Many Libyans have expressed fear to shout and celebrate even with hundreds of freedom fighters around because of this man and what they lived through in fear and anxiety for 42 years. He is a chill in the sub concious of every Libyan according to people who live there even after Trippoli was liberated. His death will give freedom and a relief of anxiety to help people work with the NTC. At least that is what they say on Al Jazeera as they want to make sure he will never come back.
In 1979 hardcore conservatives rallied for the Ayatolla protesting liberal and dangerous western corrupt values. They wanted what they have today in Iran and felt they would be blessed by Allah for doing just that. Many of them hated the Shaw as he was a dictator too.
Al Quada does not fund this. Just because the people are muslin (both sides I may add) does not make them all terrorists. We have some in the US army too who are muslim. Does that make the US part of Al Quada following this silly logic? Yes The Muslim bortherhood represents some fighters but not the majority.
They are an Islamic country so yes their new goverment is going to be muslim in origin, just like european and North American countries like Canada and the US are both Christian. The fighters and the arab spring are fighting for freedom, democracy, and economic equality, and an end to having a dictator decide their future for them. Not to be terrorist and turn Libya into an Afghanistan.
We will see what the new government hold but if the NTC wants a democracy the conservatives wont have the majority votes to turn themselves into a radical country. My hunch like Egypt there will be political parties but both sides do not want anymore oppression after suffering under Ghaddifi for so long.
By the way I use chrome too and not a big IE only fan. I tried dragon as well.
Most of the issues I have seen in tech support are trojans that come through flash and java. Not IE unless it is really old like IE 7 with XP. Older versions SUCK really bad. I agree with you 100% on that. They deserved their bad reputation and Firefox coming in and leading people out 5 years ago.
Slashdot posted a study from a week or 2 ago showing only 1/10th of the vulnerabilities come through IE. The rest are flash vulnerabilities and social engineering tricks. If you worked on any corporation migrations from XP/IE 6 to Windows 7/IE 8 the first thing you notice is a big drop in infections and malware. It is very difficult to make any vulnerability an attack due to random ram address scrambling, exception bound checks, and full use of the EAP to make data inseperatable from execution in IE 9. XP only partially supported it due to legacy features. Some services ran without it and malware would target these services in older IE versions on XP. Windows 7 services all use EAP by default.
If people hate both browsers and change as well as insist on using IE because they do not want to learn anything else it is now a good option. Maybe not great, but certainly up there as a good browser. I prefer IE over Firefox anyday. It really saddens me to say this.
Check your latest forums again? The vulnerabilities in IE 9 are lower or the same as other browsers. Windows 7 auto updates by default now. It also warns people of a phishing link or malicious download. We of course know better but your users may not and so far the screening works best under that browser.
However, I give Chrome credit that it updates Flash automatically. MS admitted this as a security issue for IE. Dragon does not do this otherwise I would use it over Chrome. In terms of GPU drawing features a modern browser needs it. Ajax, webgl, ccs 3d, and even font rendering are all what browsers are doing where a nice directx/opengl api can make run smooth. Chrome is behind on this. Each browser has its own strengths.
Either way even if you do not use it. It is a good thing IE is getting better for everyone.
Most malware comes through Java and Flash. It is never updated and installed on every computer regardless of browser. IE 9 on Windows 7 is a different beast altogether. Even IE 8 is patched frequently and is much more secure than the horrible older versions. Windows 7 updates automatically by default. In the US xp usage where that was option are below 25% now as W7 is taking over.
Windows only interferes with IE in the dlls for font rending, and drawing pixels on the screen. IE 9 uses DirectWrite and not GDI anymore so it is not that vulnerable like in the old days. Infact, Firefox uses DirectWrite too and makes the same calls to the DLLS.
I have not met a home user who wants them off except 1 who has an old system where theere is some compatibility issue.
Check any security forum for modern web browsers. Chrome is up there with the most holes. However, I give it credit the are closing most in the latest release and it auto-updates flash and PDF reading. That is a great thing to do for home users. I hope IE and Firefox follow that. IE 10 I think will.
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There are at least 30 things that Windows 7 is ahead compared to XP. I do not even know where to begin. It is like saying what is so different from my 1938 to a car from today.
For #1 people who still use XP never upgrade and therefore use IE. That is how I got to that conclusion if you follow statistics. Html 5 on Windows 7 is hardware accelerated and can do visuals that only tablets and smartphones can do with smooth fast scrolling and hardware accelerated font redering. DirectX11 provides much of these features not to mention HTML 5 has other things besides just video. Drag and drop, progress bars, worker threads for multi core systems, and even offline data storage for when you have no wifi to do your work in intranet apps. The ones today really suck because they are designed for IE 6 and in 5 or 6 years you will see them look more like iPhone apps and know what I am talking about.
XP is holding it back.
XP is suspectible to bit rot, it is insecure, has no GPU accelerated graphics, and was designed when internet meant WWW with dialup for simple websites that resembled minspring and craigslist. I do not have the space to go into details but even with up to date Windows Updates it still has design flaws that make it insecure even if you use another browser. If you are refering to ram, keep in mind you are not seeing the whole the picture as Windows 7 will cache it. At $15 per gig that is not a big deal anymore. I have a 3.5 year old laptop with just 2 gigs of ram and I can multitask and run photoshop on it fine with Windows 7. Its age does show but that is due to the slow cpu and graphics. It is certainly usable.
The reason to pick a mac for photoshop is because the monitors and color calibration suck goatballs on a PC. Windows 7 closes the later problem with great ICC color management support. Still, even the best of PC monitors fade in light and color saturation change in angles. Only Lenovo had mac like quality screens but they are now cheap. The smaller imacs have crappy screens too so I dunno, but it was the hardware rather than the software for these users.
Ugh
I just had to use it for something and I thought it would be a quick ordeal like Paint.net. It took days and was a hair pulling experience to get anything done. I have never seen such a pinicky program ... since like autocad for DOS. But even Autocad didn't do strange things if you didn't know what laywers were like Photoshop. I still prefer MS publisher for simple things as paintbrushes do not work 50% of the time for some reason and only the pencil will pick the right color from the picker? I have no clue what I am doing wrong here.
Dreamwaver is fine for a few things but difficult with other stuff. People laugh at Mac users thinking they are idiots who do not know complexity or how to use a computer. The opposite is true if they use photoshop.
You can thank BestBuy for that.
They freaked out when they realized they couldn't sell useless anti virus software and office for each PC sold. This is how their sales people are compensated. Each PC sold even has the BestBuy installer so they can get you after you bring the new PC home.
Windows 7 can run great on these netbooks now with atoms and soon ARMs with Windows 8. But retailers and corporations depend on proprietary win32 software
Mine BSOD occasionally. W2k didn't have that problem and SP 2 finally fixed that so it was not a driver issue but a bug in XP. XP did have its issues for the first 4 years.
Agreed. However, the good news is I see less XP loyalists on slashdot than in the past whenever an XP article showed up. Usually I see people talking about the benefits of W7 being modded down and those being modded up showing how cool they are for using a 10 year old kernel and how it is the greatest one ever built and why change, at the same time they own a state of the art Ipad but expect their expensive computer to be obsolete.
In the good old days I remembered when slashdotters were cutting edge and actually wanted to use newer software and were respected at work rather than lets not rock the boat and you kids do not understand what it takes to upgrade bla bla.
XP was not perfect at all for the first 5 years as it had issues with security, plug and play, and other things that finally went away by 2006. It has aged but also matured somewhat which is why people are afraid to change it. Vista and betting on using bad software versions and the rise of financial engineering genuises who run I.T. based on cutting costs are keeping XP on for dear life with many companies. The good ones are migrating to Windows 7 next year from what I read. Thank God
Haha.
Actually, I had a habit of picking less reliable hardware on purpose for that reason. Cha-ching!
Personally, I do wonder if some of this crappy intranet software from companies like Sap use simply = instead of >= statements regarding versions so they can simply change the javascript file and charge $5,000 for the same app in a newer IE?
Virii galore. XP was made when people still ran AOL and the internet was the world wide web with dialup and ran simple sites that resembled craigslist. Those are the disadvantages of still using it.
My kids always clicked on whatever popped up. UGH I explained to them not do it but they do not understand such things as tricking and hacking computers are out of their comprehension. They play flash games with pop ups and can't tell between the game and a malware ad with the same kiddy graphics at these sites from a compromised ad server. They did always use Firefox as they knew not to use IE but still.
Windows 7 is much more secure due to random ram addressing, better data execution prevention, and so on. Also parental controls are nice in Windows 7 for your kid but I do not know if the website blocking will work outside of IE. I guess IE 9 is secure enough like a modern browser.That is a nice feature too.
Is it worth the $130 price tag? Well, I would just get a new machine if it gets infected with W7 rather than upgrade if I were you. If it is a newer machine less than 3 years old it might be worth it if your wife has anything important on it like work files. But that is your call. There are advantages to upgrading as XP is showing its age.
There are were a few bad apples in the early to even mid life of XP with plug and play too.
Soyo and a few other motherboard makes had issues with ACPI. Linux began with power management disabled or set to software only while XP had the same problems with these boards too where a machine would hibernate but wake up with sound gone etc.
Also remember the Dells where the IRQ routing tried to all use IRQ 11 and cause BSOD and conflicts? Even if you had all the IRQs free the Dells and a few Asus would all try to use only IRQ 11 and cause shitty graphics performance and network disconnects due to the conflicts. Ah those were the days. :-)
I do not know how much was hardware vs buggy plug and play with W2k/XP, but after 2006 they were removed and Xp finally got stable. Unfortunately by 2006 it was already becoming old, dated, and crusty.
That was a typo with the 380. I meant 370.
With Mozilla publically stating it hates enteprise users and it wont ever support them it is now a liability to use a non MS browser. Gee, thanks Asa for making the MCSE PHBs look like geniuses.
How are you going to run IE 6 and a later version of IE? My guess is through an emulator of some sort which is the point of my post. Once that is up it gives the suites little advantage to keep developing proprietary XP/IE 6 only apps and the cost accountants will cry and whine if you dare upgrade with no emulator at all.
Emulators suck and have big disadvantages and do not integrate well with other apps. I mean simply cut and pasting just came out a few years ago with virtualbox. Sharing files is a nightmare and you need to setup shared folders as administrator last I looked at VMWare (unacceptable in a corporate environment), but I do not support it on a daily basis.
Still some internet sites will still require IE 6 that corporate users use so it will never go away even if it is much cheaper in the long run, the cost accountants run the show for quarterly gains. It is a big mess and will be one of XPs biggest legacies of all time sadly.
On my hexcore box with an ati 5750 there is a huge FPS drop on XP compared to Windows 7. Even an older game like World of Warcraft gets only 19 fps on XP. With DirectX11 it gets 40 fps.
With 8 gigs of ram saving 64 megs is laughable much like installing 15k cache cards from the early 1980s on pcs that came out later. With crappy drivers for XP like NVidia who actually states it wont release drives for newer hardware for it and my experience with ATI I can say games will ditch XP. IN the US less than 1 out of 4 people use XP anymre and I bet 1/3 of those are corporations.The rest are older systems which gaming companies do not want to support. The Chinese skew the statistic since they have more pcs as the entire US that run pirated XP.
XP is dying. It will stay like COBOL does in an array of emulators for decades to come in server rooms across the world but running it on the actual iron is dying. Newer CPUs like the Bulldozer suck on XP, and even Windows 7, but run great on Windows 8. Hardware just doesn't run faster on older operating systems.
I give it credit ... 10 years ago.
Time to move on seriously. What if the world hung on to Windows 3.0 and Mosiac when XP came out? Thats what was hot 1991 and the net would not have Yahoo, ... maybe a simple Google, nor Amazon in 2001 when XP came out if corps and people acted that way back then.
Old standards are holding technology back. XP is keeping flash alive and HTML 5 out. Even Windows 7's IE 8 is 2.5 years old? That is old now since even IE is on an anual update schedule as much as the PHBs want to cry and whine.
XP was a fine but insecure OS when it came out. But it is time to move on as we are entering a different age in computing.
Lesson #1 when a customer tells you to do something you do it. They have your paycheck in their wallets. If they say jump you say how far, so you can get that paycheck. In this economy you have to suck it up.
IE 9 fixes that. Leaving XP behind is a necessity as business users will never leave IE ever. But I doubt that would help.
My fear is that your grandchildren who want to get to do I.T. 50 years from now will need to learn IE 6 racing conditions, minimal CSS 1.0 support, and many bugs for intranet apps still being developed in 2061 will still require IE 6 in run in 2 emulators ala COBOL is today. Major banks run 40 year old software with IBM 360 emulators still.
I want to laugh but it is not fair to the poor sap in the future who you know will do this. ... and yes IBM 380 apps in COBOL will still be running in emulators too as well as SCO. Cost accountants just wont let anyone upgrade.
So your rant on SNI support wont matter as the big corps plan to run IE 6 for the next 30 to 50 years so they can save on upgrade costs and commercial portals and sites will still need to support XP and IE 6 then.
Some of the iCore 5s have hyperthreading, some have virtualization instructions, while others do not. Even if you select a CPU that has them you could end up with a bios wont let you turn them on. HP has been known for example of doing this since the P4 days. They sell 2 identical ones but the flash wiht the hyperthreading turned on costs $300 more. They are the same otherwise.You really do not know if you buy such a system that it can run VMware or Virtualbox because of this so look out a head of time.
AMD has a better track record in my experience.
You are right on with Intel. God help you if you have a 2007 era TurionM like I have on my laptop. Yes even the Linux version of Firefox is compiled with the Intel compiler. Firefox 3.6 was slow at times but tollerable on Linux with it. Firefox 4 is bad. Chrome was much better on Linux. I miss the old fast phoenix days of Firefox but with Asa employed it is dead. I have Windows on that laptop now and still use Chrome and IE 9 and refuse to put Firefox back on it. I put in a 7200 RPM drive too. Page loads and javascript just seem to time out if there is too much of a load under FF. At least thats what it feels like and the scrolling is dog slow with no usability testing. Just fast releases in which Asa mysteriously thinks that will bring 1 billion users.
Chrome and now MS at least, are focusing on that and makeing it feel fast and decent for browsing experiences rather than supporting xyz for some unfinished spec that no one will use for 4 years.
I am sorry. Wow does that suck.
I have an aging laptop that used to run Firefox for Linux and Windows. It is just too slow when runnning things like www.msnbc.com. I switched to Chrome on Linux and use IE 9 and Chrome for Windows. I would say even IE 8 or IE 9 is better than Firefox if you have a slow system. IE 7 is truly horrible. I had font issues too with Ubuntu. Switched to Fedora/CentOS and they went away. Ubuntuy does not use standard font settings in Xorg and refuse to patch bugs assuming that is your problem too that I had.
I was just explaining to Hairyfeet too that GPU is the weakest in Chrome even if it is liter so it depends on what you value. Did you remember to go to about:flags in Chrome and turn on Hardware Accelerated Canvas? I do not know if it works on Linux as I quit that OS last March due to Gnome3 and Unity but I know on my computer it is 2d by default. I hope your office upgrades soon as IE 7 is a security nightmare compared to their latest cousins in Windows 7 which I find shocking decent. Especially IE 9/10 that has the best font and graphics rendering available.
Sounds like I could trade your system for a nice car.
If he is trying to save cash I do not think your solution is cost effective. However, you can get systems now for cheap with 8 gigs of ram and at least a hex core that could run software development fine. I do admit simulating server loads wont work but that is why you try to get the boss to pay for it then :-)
I will also add to buy an AMD dekstop to do this since he mentioned cost effective. For $499 you can get a Llamo with virtualization instructions with 8 gigs of ram. That can run 4 VMs for cheap. Intel chipsets tend to support ICores with virtualization instructions but disable them in the bios on purpose forcing you to pay more. All AMDs have the ability to turn them on by default.
For that price it is a great deal. Also if you hate virtualbox you can download a trial of VMWare workstation and create the VMs and then uninstall the trial and use the free VM Player to run the images you just created too which is nice.
On my system that is only $699, I can run 4 VMs of XP or CentOS with 1.5 gigs per VM as XP and Linux are not resource intensive which is a 6 core system. It is sweet I can compile code, run XP and play World of Warcraft for that price with it all working flawlessly. It is silly as I do this just to test HTML for obsolete browser from some popular company in the Pacific Northwest, which would be laughable in an ideal universie but that is life until business finally ditches it and the 10 year old kernels. UGH
But with cheap hardware and 1 gig of ram costing $15 each it is inexpensive to do and you feel like you own a mainframe.
But VMs all the way
Many Libyans have expressed fear to shout and celebrate even with hundreds of freedom fighters around because of this man and what they lived through in fear and anxiety for 42 years. He is a chill in the sub concious of every Libyan according to people who live there even after Trippoli was liberated. His death will give freedom and a relief of anxiety to help people work with the NTC. At least that is what they say on Al Jazeera as they want to make sure he will never come back.
Watching Fox News much?
In 1979 hardcore conservatives rallied for the Ayatolla protesting liberal and dangerous western corrupt values. They wanted what they have today in Iran and felt they would be blessed by Allah for doing just that. Many of them hated the Shaw as he was a dictator too.
Al Quada does not fund this. Just because the people are muslin (both sides I may add) does not make them all terrorists. We have some in the US army too who are muslim. Does that make the US part of Al Quada following this silly logic? Yes The Muslim bortherhood represents some fighters but not the majority.
They are an Islamic country so yes their new goverment is going to be muslim in origin, just like european and North American countries like Canada and the US are both Christian. The fighters and the arab spring are fighting for freedom, democracy, and economic equality, and an end to having a dictator decide their future for them. Not to be terrorist and turn Libya into an Afghanistan.
We will see what the new government hold but if the NTC wants a democracy the conservatives wont have the majority votes to turn themselves into a radical country. My hunch like Egypt there will be political parties but both sides do not want anymore oppression after suffering under Ghaddifi for so long.
... you end up with with this on MC Hammer search?
"Unless Gaddafi is capable of coming back from the dead I think there's a fair chance he's gone."
oh?
By the way I use chrome too and not a big IE only fan. I tried dragon as well.
Most of the issues I have seen in tech support are trojans that come through flash and java. Not IE unless it is really old like IE 7 with XP. Older versions SUCK really bad. I agree with you 100% on that. They deserved their bad reputation and Firefox coming in and leading people out 5 years ago.
Slashdot posted a study from a week or 2 ago showing only 1/10th of the vulnerabilities come through IE. The rest are flash vulnerabilities and social engineering tricks. If you worked on any corporation migrations from XP/IE 6 to Windows 7/IE 8 the first thing you notice is a big drop in infections and malware. It is very difficult to make any vulnerability an attack due to random ram address scrambling, exception bound checks, and full use of the EAP to make data inseperatable from execution in IE 9. XP only partially supported it due to legacy features. Some services ran without it and malware would target these services in older IE versions on XP. Windows 7 services all use EAP by default.
If people hate both browsers and change as well as insist on using IE because they do not want to learn anything else it is now a good option. Maybe not great, but certainly up there as a good browser. I prefer IE over Firefox anyday. It really saddens me to say this.
Check your latest forums again? The vulnerabilities in IE 9 are lower or the same as other browsers. Windows 7 auto updates by default now. It also warns people of a phishing link or malicious download. We of course know better but your users may not and so far the screening works best under that browser.
However, I give Chrome credit that it updates Flash automatically. MS admitted this as a security issue for IE. Dragon does not do this otherwise I would use it over Chrome. In terms of GPU drawing features a modern browser needs it. Ajax, webgl, ccs 3d, and even font rendering are all what browsers are doing where a nice directx/opengl api can make run smooth. Chrome is behind on this. Each browser has its own strengths.
Either way even if you do not use it. It is a good thing IE is getting better for everyone.
That is an obsolute argument from years ago.
Most malware comes through Java and Flash. It is never updated and installed on every computer regardless of browser. IE 9 on Windows 7 is a different beast altogether. Even IE 8 is patched frequently and is much more secure than the horrible older versions. Windows 7 updates automatically by default. In the US xp usage where that was option are below 25% now as W7 is taking over.
Windows only interferes with IE in the dlls for font rending, and drawing pixels on the screen. IE 9 uses DirectWrite and not GDI anymore so it is not that vulnerable like in the old days. Infact, Firefox uses DirectWrite too and makes the same calls to the DLLS.
I have not met a home user who wants them off except 1 who has an old system where theere is some compatibility issue.
Check any security forum for modern web browsers. Chrome is up there with the most holes. However, I give it credit the are closing most in the latest release and it auto-updates flash and PDF reading. That is a great thing to do for home users. I hope IE and Firefox follow that. IE 10 I think will.