I have given up on Ubuntu 3 days ago on my laptop. Ubuntu is always under heavy development. Look at how many updates to 10.04 to fix thousands of bugs? I downgraded back down to Ubuntu 9.10 only to have updates with that release include the same buggy patches that caused me to leave 10.04. Or they have to disable something I use because too many people reported bugs with the latest version of package x. It does not surprise me to see Cananical rush to put in btrfs.
BTRFS is a cool feature but I do not want to use it before its ready. Will it be ready? Microsoft gave up on WinFS and with ZFS, it was around for years inside SUN before being tested ready for Solaris. Ext4 was rushed out too and many apps are incompatible with it due to expecting a bug with ext3.
I am using Fedora 13 now(just came out yesterday on its ftp server). It seems less cutting edge which I find ironic as this was the reason I left Fedora Core 2 6 years ago.
Mandrake and Gentoo seemed to have the same fate with once becoming popular they try to rush packages in and lose stability.
Sounds like you would be an excellent candidate for Opensolaris and FreeBSD.
Being so used to sysV both would drive you nuts though. FreeBSD sh scripts are much more simplier than RC equilivants in RH. Go to/etc/src/examples and edit the #for feature X uncomment htis line. I feel I have to wrote whole shell script programs otherwise in RH. Just my tastes.
This begs to differ if python is really interpreted anymore? Java and.NETs CLR use bytecode and JIT so the speed differences are not that big or at all unless you continuously load and unload large amounts of code. If its only a 10% difference then upgrading your cpu can bring the same effect. I wonder how fast python is and what kind of compiler or interpreter it is as well.
yeah great idea to have a prepayment penalty and forced to pay $200,000 in additional interest. You think the bank is going to give up on this great milking opportunity?
... or a spouse was laid off and the parent poster is paying for 2 student loans.
Many kids can come into place when 2 previously married people remarry.
There are jobs available and Mcjob will certainly help for any spouse not working unless she is watching a baby.
Time for a 2nd night job indeed in addition a regular job for the parent poster.... ok who told me again that an education was key to better way of life free of poverty?
Seriously studies have shown that employees waste almost 40% of their time on the web, long lunches, taking frequent coffee breaks, etc.
Its cost hundreds of billions in lost productivity each year. Does the minimally waged Mcds employees do this? You make 5x as much so why should you? It seems the lower income hourly jobs tend to fire people who do this so why is this tolerated in the office where you are paid significantly more?
UPS bans coffee machines and bringing drinks to desks. Browsing the web is stealing. I do not care if its your lunch. Unless you are paid hourly you need to eat, use the bathroom, and quickly get back to work. Smoking and bathroom breaks hurt too but that is a whole different matter.
Browsing should be banned... not to sound like dick but I just see t hings how it is and its not fair. They call it work for a reason and if you do hte things described above then do not be surprised when someone with less experience gets the promotion to be your next boss. Take care of your employers needs and they will be more than happy to take care of yours.
You know its a pretty a bad day when you can't even accept that an employee should show up.
In this recession I think finding such a quality wont be a problem. All those who had those problems were probably the first to be shit-canned and will not repeat the same mistake.
"If you are a software engineer, and you can't afford going out for lunch, you might consider the chance of having been screwed during the salary negotiation.
Or have a boatload of student loans costing thousands a month.... at least I tend to think I am not alone in this.
"When you can make money hand over fist doing nothing, a very bad thing has happened: work has ceased to become a rewarded function. Instead, it's who you can screw over with dodgy investment strategies and exotic financial instruments that are not only worthless, but a liability. It's time that we end the casino markets and return to investing in things that are actually part of the economy that creates jobs - manufacturing, infrastructure, and technology.
Fund managers who literally do nothing but piss away money are making $1,000 an hour, and the people who educate our children are making less than $20 an hour. Something is seriously wrong with this picture. --"
These fund managers will have their day coming to them. Many already have during the last crash.
I mentioned to another poster that there is only one way to be rich safely. That is to work. You retire by working and not by adding a new granite stove top to your kitchen to increase its home value. You can't cheat the system long term. The guys in the 1929 crash lost everything within the first few years of the 1930s.
Cash is cash and is just a note referring to a unit of time/labor and nothing else. The teachers will have the most money when the next crash happens and not the now unemployed fund managers. \
Actually stocks may not be that bad of a bet... mid to long term.
I read an article last week with Forbes Magazine describing the scary bond and derivitive markets. IN the panic of 2008 and 2009 people simply sold stocks for bonds. The P/E are recovering to near stable levels now as profits increase. When bonds start crashing due to government treasury bonds... cough Greece... investors will put the money in stocks and then a huge buy of stocks in place of the now toxic bonds.
Bonds are the real bubble right now. Sadly right now everything looks risky but stocks are more stable than the other options with the exception of cds that pay jack these days but will pay more when interests hopefully go up.
When I hear "Buy NOW" for Gold... I just replace Gold with Homes and I feel like its 2004 again.
I would think after being scammed that investors and Grandmas would be more careful when hearing these ads.... unfortunately some people never learn. Sigh...
Greed indeed. I have some news for you folks that you do not want to hear. You want to make money? Go earn it! The only way to retire is to earn money by working... not investing. Its just a pyramid scheme and the heart of economics and capitalism is providing a service in exchange for money. Its that simple and investing in your job is the only way to get rich. Maybe I am skeptical but its common sense.
Ask the baby boomers and the greatest generation how much money they made holding on to gold?
In 1982 Gold was worth $2,000 an ounce in today's dollars. Its still only half its original price adjusted for inflation.
Gold is risky and my parents know people who lost half of their retirements to Gold back in the 1981 recession. If the market recovers all the gold buyers will be in a hurry to sell to buy cd and bonds once interest rates recover.
They will go up again and when they do cd's will become popular again.
However most slashdotters love h.264 but a vocal minority (myself included) heavily oppose it and I hope the new lawsuit mixed with an injuction of Firefox will wake up the/. ers again. The same slashdot crowd loved Sun's solaris a decade ago before loathing it. Also.NET and C#/Mono was all the rage and anti-java fervor ran deep for years on slashdot until people realized Mono never did work as promised (7 years later). The crowd now is backing java again.
We hate both of Apple and Adobe if they are suing and the problem is not flash in itself more than their is no way to develop websites without adobe's $1200 suite.... you could make it look html 2.0ish iwth a lame page but real development is all ajax mixed with flash. No longer can you learn how to make software without an expensive software suite. In many ways this reminds me of pre-internet computing but at least borland Pascal was affordable.
Flash is making the clock go backwards from open standards and html5 and more creation tools is the only thing we need to be free again. If google refused to support it with Apple and hopefully Microsoft you can bet html 5 or javaFX might be taken more seriously. With flash being supported why bother with JavaFX?
In the PBS documentary Nerds 2.0 Apple was asleep at the wheel howling about evil big brother. After playing the 1984 mac ad the big brother with glasses looked like Bill Gates. Only then did they realize Microsoft was the enemy not IBM.
Right now Adobe is the new monopolist. They bought aldus photostyler and macromedia shockwave. Now they are the only player when it comes to UI design.
Flash is the defacto internet language for online games and applications. Javascript exists but its used to compliment flash. Try browsing the web without flash? You will get annoying install flash NOW.
Flash with h.264 is the enemy of the internet and all that is open. I can't do any serious programming or web design work without flash as clouds and intranets is where the market is heading. I can't afford adobe suite which is over $1,000.
If google refused flash alongside with Apple we could have seen html5 be seriously taken. We need more tools besides adobe suite.
The answer is obvious. The market right now wants CHEAP, CHEAP and CHEAP.
Who typically buy computers? The wealthy 1 to 2% of the world's population.
How many computer users own stocks that tanked since 2007? Homes? Derivatives? Or had their jobs threatened? The other are poor debt ridden college students and offices.
Offices buy by the cheap! If a higher DPI screen does not give a bigger ROI then why upgrade? Also, most businesses have refused to upgrade to vista and are trying to boost their share prices that collapses since fall of 2008. Computers get in the way of these magical ratios that Goldman Sachs crave.
The technical enthusiasts who drive the market need to have their outsourced jobs back and have job security and be better off financially before putting down the cash for high end equipment. Just the facts.... that or the accountants at all these companies just look at the majority market and refuse to invest in anything else.
Python is huge in Ubuntu. Its part of gnome and used in hundreds of applications.
Its been around for 10 years now and I see articles everywhere at tech sites and magazines promoting its usage. In fact, its the only language supported for Google's cloud services. Its the only language that can run in.Net, Java, MacOSX, Windows, and Linux. Its gaining popularity and is used for PostGreSQL admin tools and many other mission critical things that you are probably not even aware of.
You can run Jython on googles phone with JavaME without modification and this makes it very powerful in the cell phone market.
Analogy is a good one and it is quoted from MSNBC to explain how shorting a stock works and how AIG got involved in the scam.
They bought insurance from AIG and asked the Bush white house to make sure AIG had bailout money.
It tanked and Goldman Sachs shorted the stock. Then Paulson Co asked AIG for insurance for the lost value. Paulson split the money with Goldman and they double dipped with stolen tax payer money. Goldman and Paulson Co knew it was about to be worth toilet paper so they shorted it and funneled tax payer money from AIG to make it look like a loss. They both collaberated and this is similar to selling a car that would fail and taking out an insurance policy on it.
Insurance fraud at its finest. There is no disclosure. Its really a secret but hey housing is very very safe get in fast!.. etc
Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) many of the new features of 3.0 have been backported to 2.6 which lessens the need to upgrade anyway.
All the opensource software for ubuntu is for py 2.6 and many developers are not bothering recoding all the work if 2.6 is fine and has the newest features.
"For people who are supposed to be intelligent, it never ceases to amaze me that developers are amazingly ignorant of the way the economy really works."
It ceases to amaze me that an intelligent person like yourself is not aware of tax law and fixed costs such as a head tax on hiring American workers.
A few years ago, I read that it costs about $14,000 a head in taxes for most fortunate 500 companies. With an H1B1 its about $0.
So if they can hire an entry level system administrator for $15,000 a year (about the going price for a fresh student in India) then I would have to work for $1,000 to match it. Can I do that under minimum wage laws?
Either get rid of head tax or apply it for foreign hires. Then we have fairer capitalism.
Obama listens to lobbyists before making key decisions and you bet they will fight to keep their cheap labor. Maybe throw in some dollars for some key democrats this November if Obama looks the other way and increases h1b1 visas to make them happy.
Abuse or not wages are going way way down because we like bargaining power due to large large amounts of cheap labor. We white collar jobs go to minimum wage? going after a few bosses is not going to help everyone out.
Our bought out politicians do. This is why the Tea party is becoming so popular. Coffee party is another group forming. Republican or democrat it wont matter as campaign dollars come from those who either bet against our own country like Goldman Sacks (ties to whitehouse) or those who want really cheap labor to boast their shareprice to benefit Godman Sacks and other banks expecting 25% returns year after year.
In my opinion this makes capitalists socialists for themselves as they want the government to adversely ruin everyone for their own beneft and capitalism for the poor with limited bargaining power. They are hypocrites.
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I have given up on Ubuntu 3 days ago on my laptop. Ubuntu is always under heavy development. Look at how many updates to 10.04 to fix thousands of bugs? I downgraded back down to Ubuntu 9.10 only to have updates with that release include the same buggy patches that caused me to leave 10.04. Or they have to disable something I use because too many people reported bugs with the latest version of package x. It does not surprise me to see Cananical rush to put in btrfs.
BTRFS is a cool feature but I do not want to use it before its ready. Will it be ready? Microsoft gave up on WinFS and with ZFS, it was around for years inside SUN before being tested ready for Solaris. Ext4 was rushed out too and many apps are incompatible with it due to expecting a bug with ext3.
I am using Fedora 13 now(just came out yesterday on its ftp server). It seems less cutting edge which I find ironic as this was the reason I left Fedora Core 2 6 years ago.
Mandrake and Gentoo seemed to have the same fate with once becoming popular they try to rush packages in and lose stability.
Sounds like you would be an excellent candidate for Opensolaris and FreeBSD.
Being so used to sysV both would drive you nuts though. FreeBSD sh scripts are much more simplier than RC equilivants in RH. Go to /etc/src/examples and edit the #for feature X uncomment htis line. I feel I have to wrote whole shell script programs otherwise in RH. Just my tastes.
No fat and unix to the core.
This begs to differ if python is really interpreted anymore? Java and .NETs CLR use bytecode and JIT so the speed differences are not that big or at all unless you continuously load and unload large amounts of code. If its only a 10% difference then upgrading your cpu can bring the same effect. I wonder how fast python is and what kind of compiler or interpreter it is as well.
yeah great idea to have a prepayment penalty and forced to pay $200,000 in additional interest. You think the bank is going to give up on this great milking opportunity?
... or a spouse was laid off and the parent poster is paying for 2 student loans.
Many kids can come into place when 2 previously married people remarry.
There are jobs available and Mcjob will certainly help for any spouse not working unless she is watching a baby.
Time for a 2nd night job indeed in addition a regular job for the parent poster. ... ok who told me again that an education was key to better way of life free of poverty?
If such a bill became law tomorrow the h.264 and html 5 were made before teh law and therefore under the grandfather clause would not be valid.
Seriously studies have shown that employees waste almost 40% of their time on the web, long lunches, taking frequent coffee breaks, etc.
Its cost hundreds of billions in lost productivity each year. Does the minimally waged Mcds employees do this? You make 5x as much so why should you? It seems the lower income hourly jobs tend to fire people who do this so why is this tolerated in the office where you are paid significantly more?
UPS bans coffee machines and bringing drinks to desks. Browsing the web is stealing. I do not care if its your lunch. Unless you are paid hourly you need to eat, use the bathroom, and quickly get back to work. Smoking and bathroom breaks hurt too but that is a whole different matter.
Browsing should be banned ... not to sound like dick but I just see t hings how it is and its not fair. They call it work for a reason and if you do hte things described above then do not be surprised when someone with less experience gets the promotion to be your next boss. Take care of your employers needs and they will be more than happy to take care of yours.
You know its a pretty a bad day when you can't even accept that an employee should show up.
In this recession I think finding such a quality wont be a problem. All those who had those problems were probably the first to be shit-canned and will not repeat the same mistake.
"If you are a software engineer, and you can't afford going out for lunch, you might consider the chance of having been screwed during the salary negotiation.
Or have a boatload of student loans costing thousands a month. ... at least I tend to think I am not alone in this.
"When you can make money hand over fist doing nothing, a very bad thing has happened: work has ceased to become a rewarded function. Instead, it's who you can screw over with dodgy investment strategies and exotic financial instruments that are not only worthless, but a liability. It's time that we end the casino markets and return to investing in things that are actually part of the economy that creates jobs - manufacturing, infrastructure, and technology.
Fund managers who literally do nothing but piss away money are making $1,000 an hour, and the people who educate our children are making less than $20 an hour. Something is seriously wrong with this picture.
--"
These fund managers will have their day coming to them. Many already have during the last crash.
I mentioned to another poster that there is only one way to be rich safely. That is to work. You retire by working and not by adding a new granite stove top to your kitchen to increase its home value. You can't cheat the system long term. The guys in the 1929 crash lost everything within the first few years of the 1930s.
Cash is cash and is just a note referring to a unit of time/labor and nothing else. The teachers will have the most money when the next crash happens and not the now unemployed fund managers.
\
Actually stocks may not be that bad of a bet ... mid to long term.
I read an article last week with Forbes Magazine describing the scary bond and derivitive markets. IN the panic of 2008 and 2009 people simply sold stocks for bonds. The P/E are recovering to near stable levels now as profits increase. When bonds start crashing due to government treasury bonds ... cough Greece ... investors will put the money in stocks and then a huge buy of stocks in place of the now toxic bonds.
Bonds are the real bubble right now. Sadly right now everything looks risky but stocks are more stable than the other options with the exception of cds that pay jack these days but will pay more when interests hopefully go up.
When I hear "Buy NOW" for Gold ... I just replace Gold with Homes and I feel like its 2004 again.
I would think after being scammed that investors and Grandmas would be more careful when hearing these ads. ... unfortunately some people never learn. Sigh ...
Greed indeed. I have some news for you folks that you do not want to hear. You want to make money? Go earn it! The only way to retire is to earn money by working ... not investing. Its just a pyramid scheme and the heart of economics and capitalism is providing a service in exchange for money. Its that simple and investing in your job is the only way to get rich. Maybe I am skeptical but its common sense.
Ask the baby boomers and the greatest generation how much money they made holding on to gold?
In 1982 Gold was worth $2,000 an ounce in today's dollars. Its still only half its original price adjusted for inflation.
Gold is risky and my parents know people who lost half of their retirements to Gold back in the 1981 recession. If the market recovers all the gold buyers will be in a hurry to sell to buy cd and bonds once interest rates recover.
They will go up again and when they do cd's will become popular again.
Housing prices have never gone to zero either. You should buy some mortgage based assets certificates under your bed. A safe bet.
Most of us hate flash.
However most slashdotters love h.264 but a vocal minority (myself included) heavily oppose it and I hope the new lawsuit mixed with an injuction of Firefox will wake up the /. ers again. The same slashdot crowd loved Sun's solaris a decade ago before loathing it. Also .NET and C#/Mono was all the rage and anti-java fervor ran deep for years on slashdot until people realized Mono never did work as promised (7 years later). The crowd now is backing java again.
We hate both of Apple and Adobe if they are suing and the problem is not flash in itself more than their is no way to develop websites without adobe's $1200 suite. ... you could make it look html 2.0ish iwth a lame page but real development is all ajax mixed with flash. No longer can you learn how to make software without an expensive software suite. In many ways this reminds me of pre-internet computing but at least borland Pascal was affordable.
Flash is making the clock go backwards from open standards and html5 and more creation tools is the only thing we need to be free again. If google refused to support it with Apple and hopefully Microsoft you can bet html 5 or javaFX might be taken more seriously. With flash being supported why bother with JavaFX?
In the PBS documentary Nerds 2.0 Apple was asleep at the wheel howling about evil big brother. After playing the 1984 mac ad the big brother with glasses looked like Bill Gates. Only then did they realize Microsoft was the enemy not IBM.
Right now Adobe is the new monopolist. They bought aldus photostyler and macromedia shockwave. Now they are the only player when it comes to UI design.
Flash is the defacto internet language for online games and applications. Javascript exists but its used to compliment flash. Try browsing the web without flash? You will get annoying install flash NOW.
Flash with h.264 is the enemy of the internet and all that is open. I can't do any serious programming or web design work without flash as clouds and intranets is where the market is heading. I can't afford adobe suite which is over $1,000.
If google refused flash alongside with Apple we could have seen html5 be seriously taken. We need more tools besides adobe suite.
The answer is obvious. The market right now wants CHEAP, CHEAP and CHEAP.
Who typically buy computers? The wealthy 1 to 2% of the world's population.
How many computer users own stocks that tanked since 2007? Homes? Derivatives? Or had their jobs threatened? The other are poor debt ridden college students and offices.
Offices buy by the cheap! If a higher DPI screen does not give a bigger ROI then why upgrade? Also, most businesses have refused to upgrade to vista and are trying to boost their share prices that collapses since fall of 2008. Computers get in the way of these magical ratios that Goldman Sachs crave.
The technical enthusiasts who drive the market need to have their outsourced jobs back and have job security and be better off financially before putting down the cash for high end equipment. Just the facts. ... that or the accountants at all these companies just look at the majority market and refuse to invest in anything else.
I was thinking of a mac is more like going gay.
No nagging, elegant, powerful, and extremely graphic with orgy of video and sound with a BIG screen and HARD aluminum keyboard.
Python is huge in Ubuntu. Its part of gnome and used in hundreds of applications.
Its been around for 10 years now and I see articles everywhere at tech sites and magazines promoting its usage. In fact, its the only language supported for Google's cloud services. Its the only language that can run in .Net, Java, MacOSX, Windows, and Linux. Its gaining popularity and is used for PostGreSQL admin tools and many other mission critical things that you are probably not even aware of.
You can run Jython on googles phone with JavaME without modification and this makes it very powerful in the cell phone market.
Analogy is a good one and it is quoted from MSNBC to explain how shorting a stock works and how AIG got involved in the scam.
They bought insurance from AIG and asked the Bush white house to make sure AIG had bailout money.
It tanked and Goldman Sachs shorted the stock. Then Paulson Co asked AIG for insurance for the lost value. Paulson split the money with Goldman and they double dipped with stolen tax payer money. Goldman and Paulson Co knew it was about to be worth toilet paper so they shorted it and funneled tax payer money from AIG to make it look like a loss. They both collaberated and this is similar to selling a car that would fail and taking out an insurance policy on it.
Insurance fraud at its finest. There is no disclosure. Its really a secret but hey housing is very very safe get in fast! .. etc
Or perl with the more than one way to do it will make it nearly unreadable if you have a different style in every line
Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) many of the new features of 3.0 have been backported to 2.6 which lessens the need to upgrade anyway.
All the opensource software for ubuntu is for py 2.6 and many developers are not bothering recoding all the work if 2.6 is fine and has the newest features.
"For people who are supposed to be intelligent, it never ceases to amaze me that developers are amazingly ignorant of the way the economy really works."
It ceases to amaze me that an intelligent person like yourself is not aware of tax law and fixed costs such as a head tax on hiring American workers.
A few years ago, I read that it costs about $14,000 a head in taxes for most fortunate 500 companies. With an H1B1 its about $0.
So if they can hire an entry level system administrator for $15,000 a year (about the going price for a fresh student in India) then I would have to work for $1,000 to match it. Can I do that under minimum wage laws?
Either get rid of head tax or apply it for foreign hires. Then we have fairer capitalism.
I believe it when I see it.
Obama listens to lobbyists before making key decisions and you bet they will fight to keep their cheap labor. Maybe throw in some dollars for some key democrats this November if Obama looks the other way and increases h1b1 visas to make them happy.
Abuse or not wages are going way way down because we like bargaining power due to large large amounts of cheap labor. We white collar jobs go to minimum wage? going after a few bosses is not going to help everyone out.
We don't support it.
Our bought out politicians do. This is why the Tea party is becoming so popular. Coffee party is another group forming. Republican or democrat it wont matter as campaign dollars come from those who either bet against our own country like Goldman Sacks (ties to whitehouse) or those who want really cheap labor to boast their shareprice to benefit Godman Sacks and other banks expecting 25% returns year after year.
In my opinion this makes capitalists socialists for themselves as they want the government to adversely ruin everyone for their own beneft and capitalism for the poor with limited bargaining power. They are hypocrites.