Right because security is never important and ransomware is never an issue. Please do not say just shut the whole business down for half a day while you go get the tape backups.
Not acceptable! It amazes me at the incompetence I see in IT departments these days. If I get my identity stolen buying something because you didn't want to do your job I will sue.
Patches rarely cause issues and Windows XP and 7 from RTM have HUNDREDS of vulnerabilities! How can any IT professional say with a smile he never updates? It drives me crazy.
Boy those guys at Microsoft make the best Operating systems ever!! The only thing better known are their browsers. Now that is what I call ahead of the curve and ultra secure comes to mind when I think of IE. AV software with security is ok but man oh man does McAfee rock for endpoint management!
On Twitter just hte other day I say Donald Trump mention how much he loves Microsoft products and how he perfected Windows 10 by doing a Sudo apt-get install SystemD with WSL. Wow, he twittered I bet Hillary Clinton probably uses Linux boxes. He laughed as SCO unix running Oracle runs his campaign as he took a sip of wine and logged into with VIM because Emacs are for libbies he cribbed to update his blog running on an Erlang CMS.
My philosophy is with Microsoft operating systems is it is best to install the OS around the time (maybe a year or two after) when the hardware came out. Otherwise you will have problems.
Linux runs great on good quality older hardware. Better quality hardware generally may run in later versions of windows with less bugs but not all is guaranteed. ATI, hard disks with old firmware that do not run well on AHCI, and other issues I remember where problems when Windows 7 came out. 8 had similar problems.
If you have new hardware and try to backhoe an older OS like Windows 7 you will have problems too. NVMe is just broken under 7 and Bluetooth and USB 3 support is terrible! I dunno.
Linux Mint might be fine in such a case or just keep 7 if you need win32 apps and do not want to deal with putting a ton of ram to run a virtualizer. I do wish there was an opensource competitor to Hyper-V? Virtualbox is terrible and a type 2 and VMware workstation is buggy and no longer made and $$$$ where it drops support for win10 and Latest Linux versions unless you shell out more cash. That would make Linux more appealing for me as I run VM's and for those who need a win32 app.
No, the hardware isn't "broken". In the cases of perfectly good hardware being trashed for lack of driver support, Microsoft and/or manufacturers should be told to offer a *cash for clunkers* solution, or lose copyright privileges that are used against third party support and distribution.
Well Windows 7 is still supported and 8 to a limited extent as well. Nvidia did the same thing from hardware from that 2009 era. Still 6 to 7 years is still good, but yes manufacturers have a financial incentive obviously not to want to support something for more than 5 years out.
MS can't make them do jack. The thing is operating systems are complex. Linux too would have trouble with drivers from 2009/2010 on the recent kernel. Things change. DirectX 12 is very different and so is the WDDM 2.0 which is low level that handles aero and all the effects and font rendering on the screen from the older 7. Drivers do have to be written and test cases QA'd to make sure things work without bugs.
This is slashdot. You might as well ask how your experience is with SystemD while you are on it.... To be a smartass I will say with Windows 10 anniversary edition I have systemD running after I did a Sudo apt-get install gdm:-)
If you upgrade to the pro version you can use the stable CBB business branch and can control when updates are installed aka Windows 7 style. Since many of us slashdotters are IT professionals I HIGHLY recommend the professional edition because of Hyper-V as well. No IT professional doesn't use virtualization these days.
If your pc came with the HOME OEM you can go system properties and upgrade it to the pro for like $60 which I think is worth it. I use defer updates, but turned it off so I could get anniversary update as an exception:-)
Show me where MS is planning a fee rather than proving a negative which is what conservative Christians use to prove evolution is not a fact? The enterprise edition is the only service I can see which has always been.
Also I do not get ads on either of my 10 systems. I swear slashdot is turning more into the crazy Mac forums where misinformation and ignorance based on fear is king.
Actually it is the millennials who like the hamburger menus in 8 and 10.
They feel file menus are cluttered and soo dated. They prefer no effects and focus on the content rather than the icing on the cake and like it minimal and touch friendly. It is really the other way around as their brains grew the most in their childhood playing on their iphones and ipads. Windows 7 seems drastically different to them in comparison.
The Windows XP loyalists, anti Windows 10 fanatics, System D gray beards, they all seem to have one thing in common.
Most of them are over 40. I have not seen any of these people in the field for those under 30. True some concerned about privacy bash Windows 10 here and there, but I remember the people at work trying to put off leaving Windows XP back in 2014 and silently trying not to strangle me when I put 7 on there systems.
These same coworkers now say Windows 7 is the BEST EVER. They refuse Chrome for many years as well and kept using IE.
I guess it takes brain muscle to learn something new
Just because your IQ is not impacted doesn't mean the white matter doesn't serve other purposes.
I am currently trying to exercise and radically changed my diet. It is because exercise has as much if not more impact on depression than anti depressants according to studies! When you exercise, go on a ketone diet, or take anti depressants your body creates BDNF. BDNF causes neurons to grow more synapses and dendrites to repair the brain.
Fat and sediment people have shrunken Hippo Thalamus which controls mode, executive functions, and short term memory.
So yes as people as some people pointed out people become wiser, but many who for example who were once sharp programmers end up in management as their is cognitive decline and a difficulty learning new things.
Artist and photo and video professionals use Macs. They own iPhones. They want to move a few terabytes of data back and forth with external disks via thunderbolt.
Security? Well gee do not let a stranger plug something in how hard is that? USB can be a risk too if you think about it?
Like I said if I were building a new PC today I would go skylake for these features as I am putting down some serious bucks. If I am paying $1700 I want the best and if it is an investment and not an expense for a toy meaning I use it to earn a living doing artsy stuff like most Mac users then yes these are solid features I would demand. Otherwise I would buy a used machine for much less if I didn't need them. I own a Nexus 6P and it does suck I can not fast charge nor transfer fast stuff on my haswell at home
This is a sensible strategy. Moores Law is over. Intels processor performance is only 30% better than it was 5 years ago. Computers aren't improving much year over year overall. The last jump in decent improvement was the introduction of SSD's. I am sorry to say it looks like digital computing is a dead end: we won't be seeing AI or the Singularity everyone wishes for with digital computers.
Not true with Macs as video professionals and users of the latest IPhones want USB type-c and thunderbolt 3 to move video over with better i/o. Battery is important too!
So yes it is not about the CPU, but that does not make these dated for expensive mac products for artists and iphone users who want to transfer and fast charge their devices
" Even an update to Intel's Haswell chips from 2013 would have brought huge battery life improvements" All MacBook Pro Retina has Haswell processors.
Haswell is pretty outdated.
Hell my i7 4770k is still rocking fast and not obsolete like a 3 year old chip was in the 1990s by any sense of the means, but skylake has big improvements for power effeciency, wifi speeds, intel graphics, usb type c, usb 3.1, and NVMe and thunderbolt 3 over my older system. This is especially true if I am paying big bucks for a mac or a gaming tower.
Well for those stuck on Windows wanting to hear more rather than those screaming with pitchforks here is my 2 cents. It feels a lot more polished from a user perspective
I am typing this on a surface pro 3 hybrid. My take on improvements 1. Black theme/dark is much nicer 2. Big start menu improvement with less clicks. For the minority on touch it is more flowing with all the tiles being shown or a big full screen. My surface now switches between the 2 automatically with the keyboard cover 3. Action center actually useful. Big change. Action Center now is super customizable and gives numbers with notifcations. News events, weather, stock quotes, and other items you can add or remove. So if you do not want email you can take it off and add a weather report and the notification changes from clear to white with +1 notififcations for a flood watch etc. Tips are there as well as PC stuff which you can turn on or off 4. Windows Ink is fun to play with but not as a big deal 5. Settings are much better. A left pane to the left has been added so when you open system or personalization the left pane will show commonly used features. 6. Hyper-v supports nesting and dock containers supposedly. I am downloading a Server 2012 R2 ISO to test this. 7. The login screen is more fluid and you no longer have to swipe. The keyboard and user login swaps up with the same background. It no longer feels like a phone
No it hasn't. No per tab processes means no real sandboxing at the kernel level. Ancient IE is more secure and we use that at work now.... Now you did not misread that. IE 8 to IE 11 use lowrights mode in appdata because it uses processes.
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Right because security is never important and ransomware is never an issue. Please do not say just shut the whole business down for half a day while you go get the tape backups.
Not acceptable! It amazes me at the incompetence I see in IT departments these days. If I get my identity stolen buying something because you didn't want to do your job I will sue.
Patches rarely cause issues and Windows XP and 7 from RTM have HUNDREDS of vulnerabilities! How can any IT professional say with a smile he never updates? It drives me crazy.
Then that admin needs to be fired. I hope this company doesn't do any HIPPA or credit card processing.
Boy those guys at Microsoft make the best Operating systems ever!! The only thing better known are their browsers. Now that is what I call ahead of the curve and ultra secure comes to mind when I think of IE. AV software with security is ok but man oh man does McAfee rock for endpoint management!
On Twitter just hte other day I say Donald Trump mention how much he loves Microsoft products and how he perfected Windows 10 by doing a Sudo apt-get install SystemD with WSL. Wow, he twittered I bet Hillary Clinton probably uses Linux boxes. He laughed as SCO unix running Oracle runs his campaign as he took a sip of wine and logged into with VIM because Emacs are for libbies he cribbed to update his blog running on an Erlang CMS.
My philosophy is with Microsoft operating systems is it is best to install the OS around the time (maybe a year or two after) when the hardware came out. Otherwise you will have problems.
Linux runs great on good quality older hardware. Better quality hardware generally may run in later versions of windows with less bugs but not all is guaranteed. ATI, hard disks with old firmware that do not run well on AHCI, and other issues I remember where problems when Windows 7 came out. 8 had similar problems.
If you have new hardware and try to backhoe an older OS like Windows 7 you will have problems too. NVMe is just broken under 7 and Bluetooth and USB 3 support is terrible! I dunno.
Linux Mint might be fine in such a case or just keep 7 if you need win32 apps and do not want to deal with putting a ton of ram to run a virtualizer. I do wish there was an opensource competitor to Hyper-V? Virtualbox is terrible and a type 2 and VMware workstation is buggy and no longer made and $$$$ where it drops support for win10 and Latest Linux versions unless you shell out more cash. That would make Linux more appealing for me as I run VM's and for those who need a win32 app.
Hacking so successful they took down the link's webserver!
No, the hardware isn't "broken". In the cases of perfectly good hardware being trashed for lack of driver support, Microsoft and/or manufacturers should be told to offer a *cash for clunkers* solution, or lose copyright privileges that are used against third party support and distribution.
Well Windows 7 is still supported and 8 to a limited extent as well. Nvidia did the same thing from hardware from that 2009 era. Still 6 to 7 years is still good, but yes manufacturers have a financial incentive obviously not to want to support something for more than 5 years out.
MS can't make them do jack. The thing is operating systems are complex. Linux too would have trouble with drivers from 2009/2010 on the recent kernel. Things change. DirectX 12 is very different and so is the WDDM 2.0 which is low level that handles aero and all the effects and font rendering on the screen from the older 7. Drivers do have to be written and test cases QA'd to make sure things work without bugs.
You can still use the old windows 7 photo editor. Go to Microsoft.com and search Windows essentials 2012?
Adobe Photoshop express is available via the app store and it is the same one on your phone? I use that one for viewing and the old 7 version.
For editing I downloaded paint.net. You can grab a copy at ninite.com.
No your hardware is broken.
ATI no longer supports the 5000 after they killed catalyst in favor of Crimson. Crimson is 10 compatible, but only supports 7000 series forward.
Best to downgrade to 7 as it is not supported and buy a newer PC by 2020 when it is time to upgrade
This is slashdot. You might as well ask how your experience is with SystemD while you are on it. ... To be a smartass I will say with Windows 10 anniversary edition I have systemD running after I did a Sudo apt-get install gdm :-)
If you upgrade to the pro version you can use the stable CBB business branch and can control when updates are installed aka Windows 7 style. Since many of us slashdotters are IT professionals I HIGHLY recommend the professional edition because of Hyper-V as well. No IT professional doesn't use virtualization these days.
If your pc came with the HOME OEM you can go system properties and upgrade it to the pro for like $60 which I think is worth it. I use defer updates, but turned it off so I could get anniversary update as an exception :-)
Good thing Android has no telemetry or any affiliation with advertising at all! You can trust them
Again there is no evidence. Put down the tinfoil hats.
Reference?
Show me where MS is planning a fee rather than proving a negative which is what conservative Christians use to prove evolution is not a fact? The enterprise edition is the only service I can see which has always been.
Also I do not get ads on either of my 10 systems. I swear slashdot is turning more into the crazy Mac forums where misinformation and ignorance based on fear is king.
Actually it is the millennials who like the hamburger menus in 8 and 10.
They feel file menus are cluttered and soo dated. They prefer no effects and focus on the content rather than the icing on the cake and like it minimal and touch friendly. It is really the other way around as their brains grew the most in their childhood playing on their iphones and ipads. Windows 7 seems drastically different to them in comparison.
The Windows XP loyalists, anti Windows 10 fanatics, System D gray beards, they all seem to have one thing in common.
Most of them are over 40. I have not seen any of these people in the field for those under 30. True some concerned about privacy bash Windows 10 here and there, but I remember the people at work trying to put off leaving Windows XP back in 2014 and silently trying not to strangle me when I put 7 on there systems.
These same coworkers now say Windows 7 is the BEST EVER. They refuse Chrome for many years as well and kept using IE.
I guess it takes brain muscle to learn something new
Just because your IQ is not impacted doesn't mean the white matter doesn't serve other purposes.
I am currently trying to exercise and radically changed my diet. It is because exercise has as much if not more impact on depression than anti depressants according to studies! When you exercise, go on a ketone diet, or take anti depressants your body creates BDNF. BDNF causes neurons to grow more synapses and dendrites to repair the brain.
Fat and sediment people have shrunken Hippo Thalamus which controls mode, executive functions, and short term memory.
So yes as people as some people pointed out people become wiser, but many who for example who were once sharp programmers end up in management as their is cognitive decline and a difficulty learning new things.
You are talking like a geek.
Artist and photo and video professionals use Macs. They own iPhones. They want to move a few terabytes of data back and forth with external disks via thunderbolt.
Security? Well gee do not let a stranger plug something in how hard is that? USB can be a risk too if you think about it?
Like I said if I were building a new PC today I would go skylake for these features as I am putting down some serious bucks. If I am paying $1700 I want the best and if it is an investment and not an expense for a toy meaning I use it to earn a living doing artsy stuff like most Mac users then yes these are solid features I would demand. Otherwise I would buy a used machine for much less if I didn't need them. I own a Nexus 6P and it does suck I can not fast charge nor transfer fast stuff on my haswell at home
This is a sensible strategy. Moores Law is over. Intels processor performance is only 30% better than it was 5 years ago. Computers aren't improving much year over year overall. The last jump in decent improvement was the introduction of SSD's. I am sorry to say it looks like digital computing is a dead end: we won't be seeing AI or the Singularity everyone wishes for with digital computers.
Not true with Macs as video professionals and users of the latest IPhones want USB type-c and thunderbolt 3 to move video over with better i/o. Battery is important too!
So yes it is not about the CPU, but that does not make these dated for expensive mac products for artists and iphone users who want to transfer and fast charge their devices
So a type-c USB/Thunderbolt is not important?? NVme internal SSD is not important? More power savings is not important?
yeah it is 2016 not 2013.
Apple users will try to justify the silliest things for their trash lol
" Even an update to Intel's Haswell chips from 2013 would have brought huge battery life improvements" All MacBook Pro Retina has Haswell processors.
Haswell is pretty outdated.
Hell my i7 4770k is still rocking fast and not obsolete like a 3 year old chip was in the 1990s by any sense of the means, but skylake has big improvements for power effeciency, wifi speeds, intel graphics, usb type c, usb 3.1, and NVMe and thunderbolt 3 over my older system. This is especially true if I am paying big bucks for a mac or a gaming tower.
Just downloaded it 10 minutes ago.
Updated
I tried a second time and it worked.
It is not a disaster. It is just the update servers are busy
Well for those stuck on Windows wanting to hear more rather than those screaming with pitchforks here is my 2 cents. It feels a lot more polished from a user perspective
I am typing this on a surface pro 3 hybrid. My take on improvements
1. Black theme/dark is much nicer
2. Big start menu improvement with less clicks. For the minority on touch it is more flowing with all the tiles being shown or a big full screen. My surface now switches between the 2 automatically with the keyboard cover
3. Action center actually useful. Big change. Action Center now is super customizable and gives numbers with notifcations. News events, weather, stock quotes, and other items you can add or remove. So if you do not want email you can take it off and add a weather report and the notification changes from clear to white with +1 notififcations for a flood watch etc. Tips are there as well as PC stuff which you can turn on or off
4. Windows Ink is fun to play with but not as a big deal
5. Settings are much better. A left pane to the left has been added so when you open system or personalization the left pane will show commonly used features.
6. Hyper-v supports nesting and dock containers supposedly. I am downloading a Server 2012 R2 ISO to test this.
7. The login screen is more fluid and you no longer have to swipe. The keyboard and user login swaps up with the same background. It no longer feels like a phone
No it hasn't. No per tab processes means no real sandboxing at the kernel level. Ancient IE is more secure and we use that at work now. ... Now you did not misread that. IE 8 to IE 11 use lowrights mode in appdata because it uses processes.
Chrome 1.0 and IE 8 are happy you can have security in lowrights mode in appdata and can use more than 1 core wahoo