Samne problem is with both to a certain extent, I don't really care what the underlying processor is, or whether it's got whichever advanced wizzy feature. The only things I care about is: is there the hardware available for the things I want to do on a particular platform, and how much processor speed do I get for my money. Right now, x86 can beat the crap out of both Power and PPC on this, simply because there's more people using x86, and so economies of scale stuff kicks in. This means that I will still be buying x86, because I'd get a less powerful system for the same price on PPC.
Generally I'll do the dev work in $Mozilla-variant-of-the-week, but trying to keep with W3C standards and checking heavily against the validator. Provided the page is valid against various standards (HTML 4.01 Transitional as a minimum), and it renders ok in both Moz and IE, I'm happy. OTOH, I'm no longer a professional web developer (I have better things to do these days), and for a big client I'd want to check against various other platforms.
Hence one of the really good reasons to make your new distro based off of debian. Effectively, they get to pick what of the 9000+ packages are suitable for their users, provide additional bits and bobs of configs and so on that are specific for their desired userbase, without having to design a whole new setup/packaging format from scratch. Plus, if all else fails, this gives a really easy upgrade path...
AFAIK most work on that last I heard was moving towards Nvu (which might theoretically get properly folded back into the Mozilla project once Lin* gets lawsuit-ed out of existence)
Features - Psion looks past Windows to Linux as Nkia buys Symbian
By Guy Kewney Posted on 09/02/2004 at 23:40
Ignore the comments about the value of Psion shares: concentrate on what Psion is going to do with all the money it got from selling its interest in Symbian. The answer is probably: "Linux portables" but we'll find out later this year for sure.
Guy Kewney
The problem with Symbian, for Psion, is very simple: wireless. Too much of it.
Symbian is the property of Nokia - and (to a lesser extent) three other phone makers, Panasonic, Siemens, and Sony Ericsson - and Psion thinks there's more to life than phones.
Exactly how much more, is something for which there are only clues right now. But the clues are pretty clear. First, we know what Psion Teklogix is actually doing already. And second, we know what Psion founder, Dr David Potter, is enthusiastic about.
"We weren't in control of Symbian," Potter told me. "But it is true in business, you have to focus; and Symbian's focus was wireless. We didn't control Symbian: we had a major stake, we had been powerful in directing the conduct of the company." The question is, where would Psion want Symbian to go in future?
Look at Teklogix. It makes a portable notebook PC. Nobody actually seems capable of believing it; but this PC runs Windows, not EPOC. EPOC, famously explained as "Eat Plenty Of Carrots" (with a straight face!) by Potter when it was first launched on the Series 5 hand-held, was a real-time OS which gave rise to Symbian. Has Potter given up on Symbian? Not at all! - he has a huge stake in its success.
But he has given up on taking it into computing. And instead, he's dreaming of Linux.
The Netbook Pro looks like an ordinary Windows notebook...
This isn't a secret. The hint is hidden in plain sight in today's official statement: "Future strategy: Broadening markets using existing products," it says.
And it goes on: "Psion Teklogix can leverage its global sales and support capability to expand into complementary markets such as field service and the mobile professional worker segment. The Netbook Pro with Windows CE, aimed at corporate users, was launched last August, and many units have been shipped for pilot trials from which feedback is encouraging. Additionally, there are positive results from a viability study of Netbook with Linux for professional users with specialist applications."
Potter: "We have some interesting developments and projects, which have filled out in terms of the research we've been doing. We believe there is an opportunity there! - we see it as going way beyond Microsoft, being much wider than that. We see Linux as being very interesting, not only in terms of technology, but also in market dynamics; lots of companies want to move in that sort of area when they buy equipment these days."
The key to Psion's involvement in Windows CE, is simply that it's a much more compact, responsive, and more mobile environment than Windows XP. And Linux, they think, is even more so. The irony, of course, is that when Motorola pulled out of Symbian late last year one of the reasons it gave was its desire to launch a Linux phone. But Psion won't - actually, can't - compete with Symbian in phones. Instead, it sees the value of Linux as giving the world a smaller, more reliable and more portable personal computer. David Potter
The hand-held market right now is in the doldrums. "When Microsoft first said they'd blow us out of the water was 1990," reminisced Potter. "It's gone through many morphings, with Winpads and so on; but they haven't really understood the market a hundred percent. Even today, they don't understand that the cellphone industry is predominantly a consumer market."
Potter reckons the typical corporate executives - buyers of PDAs, of course - account for 5% to 6% of the world market. "That's why Microsoft haven't had traction. They're learning, and may be they will learn what it's about, but it's amazing how long
Using all of the listed nameservers for www.sco.com as of 3:35 CET, www.sco.com still exists. There's still an A record, there's still an MX, looks like business as usually (excepting the richly deserved DDOS)
Most of them anyways... my personal "must visit daily".cx site has now gotta be torrentse.cx, which appears to have been hacked. Arseness... and after I'd donated and everything....
Submission for new/. story template for dull days: "X has just got device Y working on Mac OS X. He has to do lots of things because people would rather support other OSes"
IBM/Linux? New one on me... GNU/Linux, yes, but not IBM. I don't use the "GNU/" phrase myself, but it's got good reasons. IBM haven't donated *that* much to Linux (not compared to GNU foundation)
Things that should have never been allowed to live: GCC "2.96" (really a CVS snapshot done by Redhat as they wanted something more up-to-date than the lovely 2.95.3). This means, that my code (which will probably be running using -Wall -Werror -ansi -pedantic), may/may not compile, depending on such things as the phases of the moon.
WTF is going on? Why are they using the broken gcc? Can the Caltech ppl who set this pass a Turing Test? I doubt it....
The idea of a singularity (shorthand here for "technological singularity") is a theoretical idea (currently), not a "religion". Given that a religion is roughly a belief system involving at least one god, and this is a technology some of us would like to work towards, not a belief system. You wouldn't describe nanotech replicators as a "religion", but they've got similar odds to happening as the singularity.
I'm using Mozilla 1.2.1 (on W2K) and I'm not having any problems with the page at all - renders exactly as the image shows. Got some odd settings there?
mplayer has had ascii output for quite a while (as long as I've known about mplayer. And as announced here mplayer just announced support for sorenson V3, so you can play quicktime (and practically every other video format under the sun...). Quite happy running on OS X (as well as most *nix'es)
Will this move people away from IE?
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One possiblity - all of the assorted "warez" sites may start automatically bouncing anyone with IE, saying "use something that doesn't report us" or similar....
A plus for Mozilla, Opera, et al. Not necessarily the sort of advertising they'd ever want to use, but every download helps.
The open-source world has produced a few free Office-compatible suites, but they, in turn, don't run on either Windows or the Mac OS.
Hmm... let's see. OpenOffice for one. It's running quite happily on my Windows machine here. Only gripe I've ever had with it was it's conversion to StarOffice files so I could print them out on my Uni's printer (didn't handle the page margins, but I've never worked out how to get that sorted with StarOffice anyways)
Notably, if you access msn.com with Mozilla, you get a HTML 4.0 document, but with IE, you get an XHTML document..... I haven't fully checked the IE version, but I'd put good money on there being properitary extensions to XHTML in there somewhere.
Glad no other country (AFAIK) is doing anything this stupid. If this goes through, then the computer manufacturers (and anyone else who doesn't want to have to put this crap in their systems) will simply have to make the hardware elsewhere. A black market will emerge in America for "non-SSSCA hardware" from the rest of the world.
Can someone who's in the USA point this out to their senators, as the vote of a UK person doesn't go very far in America.....
I think there's a way through. Add ?x on to the end of any Salon URL, and you get through to the non-ad version. I've tried this on Mozilla(0.94) and IE(5.5) on my Windows machine, as well as lynx on two different Linux boxen. Cookie or no cookie.....
Now, if anyone's feeling annoyed at this, then all we need to do is work out how to use this workaround.
Personally, I don't like full-screen ads, and I kill pop-ups with Pow!. Banner ads I can live with, and anything like this needs more work at it. I can live with rising ad-warfare, just I'd like to see it better written, and harder to workaround. Just like my Student Union's messed up polling system. Session cookies were such a bad idea there!
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Samne problem is with both to a certain extent, I don't really care what the underlying processor is, or whether it's got whichever advanced wizzy feature. The only things I care about is: is there the hardware available for the things I want to do on a particular platform, and how much processor speed do I get for my money. Right now, x86 can beat the crap out of both Power and PPC on this, simply because there's more people using x86, and so economies of scale stuff kicks in. This means that I will still be buying x86, because I'd get a less powerful system for the same price on PPC.
Give me cheap desktop Power hardware (i.e. PC-like just-the-parts ideas) and I'll write Power apps. Not before.
Generally I'll do the dev work in $Mozilla-variant-of-the-week, but trying to keep with W3C standards and checking heavily against the validator. Provided the page is valid against various standards (HTML 4.01 Transitional as a minimum), and it renders ok in both Moz and IE, I'm happy. OTOH, I'm no longer a professional web developer (I have better things to do these days), and for a big client I'd want to check against various other platforms.
What, like Vigor? (original UF strip here)
Hence one of the really good reasons to make your new distro based off of debian. Effectively, they get to pick what of the 9000+ packages are suitable for their users, provide additional bits and bobs of configs and so on that are specific for their desired userbase, without having to design a whole new setup/packaging format from scratch. Plus, if all else fails, this gives a really easy upgrade path...
AFAIK most work on that last I heard was moving towards Nvu (which might theoretically get properly folded back into the Mozilla project once Lin* gets lawsuit-ed out of existence)
Features - Psion looks past Windows to Linux as Nkia buys Symbian
By Guy Kewney Posted on 09/02/2004 at 23:40
Ignore the comments about the value of Psion shares: concentrate on what Psion is going to do with all the money it got from selling its interest in Symbian. The answer is probably: "Linux portables" but we'll find out later this year for sure.
Guy Kewney
The problem with Symbian, for Psion, is very simple: wireless. Too much of it.
Symbian is the property of Nokia - and (to a lesser extent) three other phone makers, Panasonic, Siemens, and Sony Ericsson - and Psion thinks there's more to life than phones.
Exactly how much more, is something for which there are only clues right now. But the clues are pretty clear. First, we know what Psion Teklogix is actually doing already. And second, we know what Psion founder, Dr David Potter, is enthusiastic about.
"We weren't in control of Symbian," Potter told me. "But it is true in business, you have to focus; and Symbian's focus was wireless. We didn't control Symbian: we had a major stake, we had been powerful in directing the conduct of the company." The question is, where would Psion want Symbian to go in future?
Look at Teklogix. It makes a portable notebook PC. Nobody actually seems capable of believing it; but this PC runs Windows, not EPOC. EPOC, famously explained as "Eat Plenty Of Carrots" (with a straight face!) by Potter when it was first launched on the Series 5 hand-held, was a real-time OS which gave rise to Symbian. Has Potter given up on Symbian? Not at all! - he has a huge stake in its success.
But he has given up on taking it into computing. And instead, he's dreaming of Linux.
The Netbook Pro looks like an ordinary Windows notebook...
This isn't a secret. The hint is hidden in plain sight in today's official statement: "Future strategy: Broadening markets using existing products," it says.
And it goes on: "Psion Teklogix can leverage its global sales and support capability to expand into complementary markets such as field service and the mobile professional worker segment. The Netbook Pro with Windows CE, aimed at corporate users, was launched last August, and many units have been shipped for pilot trials from which feedback is encouraging. Additionally, there are positive results from a viability study of Netbook with Linux for professional users with specialist applications."
Potter: "We have some interesting developments and projects, which have filled out in terms of the research we've been doing. We believe there is an opportunity there! - we see it as going way beyond Microsoft, being much wider than that. We see Linux as being very interesting, not only in terms of technology, but also in market dynamics; lots of companies want to move in that sort of area when they buy equipment these days."
The key to Psion's involvement in Windows CE, is simply that it's a much more compact, responsive, and more mobile environment than Windows XP. And Linux, they think, is even more so. The irony, of course, is that when Motorola pulled out of Symbian late last year one of the reasons it gave was its desire to launch a Linux phone. But Psion won't - actually, can't - compete with Symbian in phones. Instead, it sees the value of Linux as giving the world a smaller, more reliable and more portable personal computer.
David Potter
The hand-held market right now is in the doldrums. "When Microsoft first said they'd blow us out of the water was 1990," reminisced Potter. "It's gone through many morphings, with Winpads and so on; but they haven't really understood the market a hundred percent. Even today, they don't understand that the cellphone industry is predominantly a consumer market."
Potter reckons the typical corporate executives - buyers of PDAs, of course - account for 5% to 6% of the world market. "That's why Microsoft haven't had traction. They're learning, and may be they will learn what it's about, but it's amazing how long
Using all of the listed nameservers for www.sco.com as of 3:35 CET, www.sco.com still exists. There's still an A record, there's still an MX, looks like business as usually (excepting the richly deserved DDOS)
Arthur C. Clarke I believe
Most of them anyways... my personal "must visit daily" .cx site has now gotta be torrentse.cx, which appears to have been hacked. Arseness... and after I'd donated and everything....
Submission for new /. story template for dull days:
"X has just got device Y working on Mac OS X. He has to do lots of things because people would rather support other OSes"
News at 11 ppl....
IBM/Linux? New one on me... GNU/Linux, yes, but not IBM. I don't use the "GNU/" phrase myself, but it's got good reasons. IBM haven't donated *that* much to Linux (not compared to GNU foundation)
Things that should have never been allowed to live: GCC "2.96" (really a CVS snapshot done by Redhat as they wanted something more up-to-date than the lovely 2.95.3). This means, that my code (which will probably be running using -Wall -Werror -ansi -pedantic), may/may not compile, depending on such things as the phases of the moon.
WTF is going on? Why are they using the broken gcc? Can the Caltech ppl who set this pass a Turing Test? I doubt it....
The idea of a singularity (shorthand here for "technological singularity") is a theoretical idea (currently), not a "religion". Given that a religion is roughly a belief system involving at least one god, and this is a technology some of us would like to work towards, not a belief system. You wouldn't describe nanotech replicators as a "religion", but they've got similar odds to happening as the singularity.
I'm using Mozilla 1.2.1 (on W2K) and I'm not having any problems with the page at all - renders exactly as the image shows. Got some odd settings there?
mplayer has had ascii output for quite a while (as long as I've known about mplayer. And as announced here mplayer just announced support for sorenson V3, so you can play quicktime (and practically every other video format under the sun...). Quite happy running on OS X (as well as most *nix'es)
One possiblity - all of the assorted "warez" sites may start automatically bouncing anyone with IE, saying "use something that doesn't report us" or similar....
A plus for Mozilla, Opera, et al. Not necessarily the sort of advertising they'd ever want to use, but every download helps.
The open-source world has produced a few free Office-compatible suites, but they, in turn, don't run on either Windows or the Mac OS.
Hmm... let's see. OpenOffice for one. It's running quite happily on my Windows machine here. Only gripe I've ever had with it was it's conversion to StarOffice files so I could print them out on my Uni's printer (didn't handle the page margins, but I've never worked out how to get that sorted with StarOffice anyways)
Notably, if you access msn.com with Mozilla, you get a HTML 4.0 document, but with IE, you get an XHTML document..... I haven't fully checked the IE version, but I'd put good money on there being properitary extensions to XHTML in there somewhere.
> foreigners have already been arrested for
> violating the DMCA
Generally only when we visit the US. Guess that changes my holiday plans until the insanity dies down.....
Glad no other country (AFAIK) is doing anything this stupid. If this goes through, then the computer manufacturers (and anyone else who doesn't want to have to put this crap in their systems) will simply have to make the hardware elsewhere. A black market will emerge in America for "non-SSSCA hardware" from the rest of the world.
Can someone who's in the USA point this out to their senators, as the vote of a UK person doesn't go very far in America.....
I think there's a way through. Add ?x on to the end of any Salon URL, and you get through to the non-ad version. I've tried this on Mozilla(0.94) and IE(5.5) on my Windows machine, as well as lynx on two different Linux boxen. Cookie or no cookie.....
Now, if anyone's feeling annoyed at this, then all we need to do is work out how to use this workaround.
Personally, I don't like full-screen ads, and I kill pop-ups with Pow!. Banner ads I can live with, and anything like this needs more work at it. I can live with rising ad-warfare, just I'd like to see it better written, and harder to workaround. Just like my Student Union's messed up polling system. Session cookies were such a bad idea there!