This is not to say that OO is not a valuable asset. Clearly a lot of people have worked hard on it. But don't kid ourselves, this beast has a long way to go yet just to compete with MS Office 97, never mind 2003.
Which is quite odd, because a huge number of people still are using Office 97. The bank I work for is 100% Office 97 (on NT4, not kidding), at home I use Office 97. Actually, I strongly dislike anything beyond Office 97. I don't see any reason to upgrade... many people don't. So OpenOffice is probably what I need to install in order to get what I need and don't have to battle with Office XP (or whatever it's called these days)
Also note that many OEM machines don't come with Office. They have Word. All the rest is Works, and Works really is a bad bad suite.
Point is that neither 25mpg or 22mpg are decent mileages. I have a car that does 25mpg and it has "decent" 0-100kmh times (not 5 secs, but my car is pretty heavy compared to both a Lotus and a Supra).
A decent mileage starts from 7l/100km, or in the american/Uk format: 35mpg.
Both cars you mention (and mine) have smaller turbocharged engines. If you drive reasonably, the turbo won't kick in much and you will be essentially driving a small engine which results in better milage. That's the whole trick for having good acceleration times and acceptable mileage.
Just assuming your nick indicates the car you are driving, I only have one question: Did you really expect anything else? I also drive a European car (in Europe, so I have to pay the insane gas prices) that gets about 25mpg... Which is insanely high in Europe. Mine surely can't match your acceleration times (0-100kmh in about than 6.5 seconds), but the price you pay for fast cars is fuel efficiency. Ask any Porsche or Ferrari drivers if "fuel efficiency" was high on their "what a car needs" list.
It weren't really loans, and the Finns didn't get anything. Essentially it was "economic assistance". Look at it the same as "helping third world countries". You can find out in this wikipedia article . It is not called for nothing "Marshall Plan" instead of "Marshall Loans"
We're slashdotters after all. The only way to get sex is either paying for it or we take matters into our own hands. In either case fertility doesn't matter.
I built a similar setup from spare parts for a friend of mine who had no cash for a new system (okay, no laptop). It runs Win2K and Office97 and surfs just fine. It all really depends on how high you standards are:-)
To be honest: I have two PPro200. Not because I had a dual setup but because I thought I burned the one I had (fan stopped working and I didn't notice). I knew someone who also had a PPro200 and he gave it to me because he knew his motherboard was damaged. (And he didn't care about vintage hardware) Exchanged the chips and it seemed that my motherboard is fried too because the behaviour was exactly the same.
So I have two PPro200 chips and no motherboard to use them. *sigh* You can find dual motherboards on ebay, but they never ship to Europe:-(
Just for a second I thought: "Why the fuck would Apple want to put Flash on an iPod?" Then I realised they mean the memory technology and not the annoying product from Macromedia.
I agree... You can even do with less if you're just surfing. I'm posting this from a P-II 400Mhz that is used as a dial-up test machine at work. It has only 128Meg RAM and runs Firefox just fine on WinXP Pro (all visual effects disabled). The Task Manager indicates 170MB used, which means that it would run waaaay better with much more RAM, but it's good enough to do the testing of our webapp (and gives us some humility towards our customers with less snappy machines)
I did... I don't care about the plums and mostly don't use them (well, okay, the "Mysterious Future" can be quite useful). I bought a subscription for one reason: I like this site and want it to continue to exist. Compared to what I pay for cable-TV, the entertainment value of slashdot is much higher;-)
It's the best way of getting free beer I've found: fixing spyware related problems for family and friends. While I watch SpyBot and AdAware do their job, I get free beer. There are worse activities;-)
I think that after this next computer upgrade I will install FreeBSD on the spare parts lying around and set up a real firewall -- a machine with two NICs.
Well, try OpenBSD instead. I donate every year to the project.:-) I think it's well worth it.
I see an AC has already said what I wanted to say. Look, your gateway machine runs W2k, this means at least a PPro or a P-II with a shitload of memory. OpenBSD runs just fine on *much* less... Think 486... Okay, I run OpenBSD on a P166 (actually, I have two networks and both run on different P166s). Both machines do a lot more that just packet filtering. (DHCP, Apache, sendmail, ntp,... )
Look, if you'd have asked me three years ago about "OpenBSD", I would have said "Huh?". One day I needed a server and I took OpenBSD and just learned. While it might sound as flamebait (and it isn't meant that way), I found learning OpenBSD easier than learning Linux.
I gave her a good talking to about installing crap from msn.com and visiting porn sites using IE
a) I don't know many women that visit porn sites on the internet. I know women that love vibrators and stuff like that, but porn usually isn't their thing.
b) Make it clear to your wife that you're the one managing the machines and that she has to submit to your will on the issue (she probably will even say "I don't understand much of computers"). It's very simple in my household: you use Firefox, don't touch IE and you're behind my OpenBSD firewall using the DSL connection I pay. You follow the rules or your computer will stop functioning because I say so. Girlfriend (not wife) wisely submitted to my will. Total spyware count on her XP box: 0.
c) sacrificing sex for a week so I would get a break from cleaning her computer As a nerd, you should be able to keep years without sex. That's why you've got a right/left hand. My Girlfriend threathens with no sex and I'll laugh in her face saying "I've had no sex for 27 years... I can wait till you're horny and can't wait no more".
Is that so? Well, I don't like XP and prefer Win2000. My desktop is in need of a reinstall, it will be Win2000. The CD I have will install it to SP0 (meaning no Service Pack). How long till exploited?
There must be many people like that: using recovery CD's etc....
Not that *I* have this kind of problem: I'm firewalled by an OpenBSD machine, but the concern is genuine.
In English: "1st march 2004" leading to "01 MAR 2004". Okay, works!
In French: "1er mars 2004" leading to "01 MAR 2004". Okay, works!
In German: "1er März 2004" leading to "01 MAR 2004". Okay, works... but only because I removed the ümlaut.
In Dutch: "1e maart 2004" leading to "01 MAA 2004". Ouch! There you go, even three letters is not language independent, and I didn't even go into languages with different alphabeths.
Actually... In Europe you can get the "Smart" (your "Zap") in Diesel versions too. They probably won't sell in the US, so they won't bother trying to import them.
Perhaps when the US market is ready for Diesel, they will start importing them.
Well, yeah... if only OEM machines came with decent installs instead of being crap-loaded.
Just Windows with the correct drivers, and for the rest nothing: that is what I want from an OEM. That's not what they offer.
So, I build my own PC's and use volume licensing media. It's the only correct way of getting a clean system. (Apart using Linux or a BSD, which I also do...)
(From the linked page:)
You work hard, and deserve software that won't let you down. Why risk using technology that may turn out to be unsupported, unreliable, or even illegal?
Apart from "illegal", a standard OEM install doesn't cover anything they state: software will let you down (security issues), windows *is* unreliable (why does the XP machine at work bluescreen when I plug in my USB keychain in it at boot, but not while it is already running -- a fully legal, OEM machine by the way!) and finally "unsupported"... hahahaha! I'm sorry, but OEM support is crap for OS issues, and Microsoft is too expensive for private users. Besides, most people don't call tech-support, they call someone "who knows". That's usually me: I'm their tech-support and supporting a pirated version of Windows is as easy as a legal version... Sometimes easier because the OEM crap isn't on the machine.
If I'd bill Microsoft for all the "tech support" that I did for them, they would owe me the licenses of a few server farms.
Heheh, I was just citing what I learned in highschool.... that was about 10 years ago. I have as much contact with literary history as most slashdotters have contact with girls;-)
Any links? Since the monk is Flemish, why wouldn't he write Dutch? After all, Flemish is Dutch. (Yes, I am Flemish... but not a monk)
I'm as conservative as it gets on Windows platforms, meaning my Win2000 is still SP2 and I like it that way. (It is however protected by a nice OpenBSD firewall and I don't use Internet Explorer nor Outlook) However, to anyone that is *not* in such a safe environment as I am, I recommend to install SP2 on their XP machines (and SP4 on their W2k machines, but that isn't nearly the same as SP2 on XP). Heck, I'll install it for them (for a case of beer)...
Not installing SP2 is commonly known as "stupid" by people who care about system security.
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Aren't most SAP installations based on Oracle databases? I thought they were, the big ones I saw were, or perhaps I'm mixing up different products.
Which is quite odd, because a huge number of people still are using Office 97. The bank I work for is 100% Office 97 (on NT4, not kidding), at home I use Office 97. Actually, I strongly dislike anything beyond Office 97. I don't see any reason to upgrade... many people don't. So OpenOffice is probably what I need to install in order to get what I need and don't have to battle with Office XP (or whatever it's called these days)
Also note that many OEM machines don't come with Office. They have Word. All the rest is Works, and Works really is a bad bad suite.
A decent mileage starts from 7l/100km, or in the american/Uk format: 35mpg.
Both cars you mention (and mine) have smaller turbocharged engines. If you drive reasonably, the turbo won't kick in much and you will be essentially driving a small engine which results in better milage. That's the whole trick for having good acceleration times and acceptable mileage.
Just assuming your nick indicates the car you are driving, I only have one question: Did you really expect anything else? I also drive a European car (in Europe, so I have to pay the insane gas prices) that gets about 25mpg... Which is insanely high in Europe. Mine surely can't match your acceleration times (0-100kmh in about than 6.5 seconds), but the price you pay for fast cars is fuel efficiency. Ask any Porsche or Ferrari drivers if "fuel efficiency" was high on their "what a car needs" list.
It weren't really loans, and the Finns didn't get anything. Essentially it was "economic assistance". Look at it the same as "helping third world countries". You can find out in this wikipedia article . It is not called for nothing "Marshall Plan" instead of "Marshall Loans"
- Education
- Public Transportation
- Fuel efficient cars (not only Diesel)
- Postal services (not sure if Euro-wide, but I frankly never heard any complaints)
- Roll-out of Mobile technology like GSM
- Roll-out of high-debit-internet connections
- Ariane
- TGV and ICE (could fall under "public transportation")
- Recycling
You most probably can come up with some more examples if you start to think about it.That would be GSM (Global System for Mobile communications)
GPS is Global Positioning System, which uses satellites in order to determine your position.
But the GSM phones are way better in most respect (bluetooth sync etc).
Having bluetooth has nothing to do with the GSM technology. Any device can have bluetooth. Bluetooth is a Pico-Net: a bit like very-small range WiFi.
We're slashdotters after all. The only way to get sex is either paying for it or we take matters into our own hands. In either case fertility doesn't matter.
http://www.jawtheshark.com/~jorg/joris/mako1.jpg
http://www.jawtheshark.com/~jorg/joris/mako2.jpg
http://www.jawtheshark.com/~jorg/joris/mako3.jpg
http://www.jawtheshark.com/~jorg/joris/mako4.jpg
(The pics don't really do the case justice and please be gentle to my 128kbps upstream)
He did a really fine job (and for free, don't you love artists in your family *grin*)
I'm looking for a way to upgrade the content, so that its looks are matched at least halfway by its performance.
I built a similar setup from spare parts for a friend of mine who had no cash for a new system (okay, no laptop). It runs Win2K and Office97 and surfs just fine. It all really depends on how high you standards are :-)
So I have two PPro200 chips and no motherboard to use them. *sigh* You can find dual motherboards on ebay, but they never ship to Europe :-(
Just for a second I thought: "Why the fuck would Apple want to put Flash on an iPod?" Then I realised they mean the memory technology and not the annoying product from Macromedia.
I agree... You can even do with less if you're just surfing. I'm posting this from a P-II 400Mhz that is used as a dial-up test machine at work. It has only 128Meg RAM and runs Firefox just fine on WinXP Pro (all visual effects disabled). The Task Manager indicates 170MB used, which means that it would run waaaay better with much more RAM, but it's good enough to do the testing of our webapp (and gives us some humility towards our customers with less snappy machines)
And I thought that I was the only one that did that ;-)
I did... I don't care about the plums and mostly don't use them (well, okay, the "Mysterious Future" can be quite useful). I bought a subscription for one reason: I like this site and want it to continue to exist. Compared to what I pay for cable-TV, the entertainment value of slashdot is much higher ;-)
It's the best way of getting free beer I've found: fixing spyware related problems for family and friends. While I watch SpyBot and AdAware do their job, I get free beer. There are worse activities ;-)
Well, try OpenBSD instead. I donate every year to the project. :-) I think it's well worth it.
Loads (machine 1, P166 128Meg RAM, supporting 5 client machines):
load averages: 0.22, 0.19, 0.17
Loads (machine 2, P166 2568Meg RAM, supporting 3 client machines):
load averages: 0.18, 0.16, 0.15
Look, if you'd have asked me three years ago about "OpenBSD", I would have said "Huh?". One day I needed a server and I took OpenBSD and just learned. While it might sound as flamebait (and it isn't meant that way), I found learning OpenBSD easier than learning Linux.
a) I don't know many women that visit porn sites on the internet. I know women that love vibrators and stuff like that, but porn usually isn't their thing.
b) Make it clear to your wife that you're the one managing the machines and that she has to submit to your will on the issue (she probably will even say "I don't understand much of computers"). It's very simple in my household: you use Firefox, don't touch IE and you're behind my OpenBSD firewall using the DSL connection I pay. You follow the rules or your computer will stop functioning because I say so. Girlfriend (not wife) wisely submitted to my will. Total spyware count on her XP box: 0.
c) sacrificing sex for a week so I would get a break from cleaning her computer
As a nerd, you should be able to keep years without sex. That's why you've got a right/left hand. My Girlfriend threathens with no sex and I'll laugh in her face saying "I've had no sex for 27 years... I can wait till you're horny and can't wait no more".
There must be many people like that: using recovery CD's etc....
Not that *I* have this kind of problem: I'm firewalled by an OpenBSD machine, but the concern is genuine.
In English: "1st march 2004" leading to "01 MAR 2004". Okay, works!
In French: "1er mars 2004" leading to "01 MAR 2004". Okay, works!
In German: "1er März 2004" leading to "01 MAR 2004". Okay, works... but only because I removed the ümlaut.
In Dutch: "1e maart 2004" leading to "01 MAA 2004". Ouch! There you go, even three letters is not language independent, and I didn't even go into languages with different alphabeths.
Perhaps when the US market is ready for Diesel, they will start importing them.
Just Windows with the correct drivers, and for the rest nothing: that is what I want from an OEM. That's not what they offer.
So, I build my own PC's and use volume licensing media. It's the only correct way of getting a clean system. (Apart using Linux or a BSD, which I also do...)
(From the linked page:)
You work hard, and deserve software that won't let you down. Why risk using technology that may turn out to be unsupported, unreliable, or even illegal?
Apart from "illegal", a standard OEM install doesn't cover anything they state: software will let you down (security issues), windows *is* unreliable (why does the XP machine at work bluescreen when I plug in my USB keychain in it at boot, but not while it is already running -- a fully legal, OEM machine by the way!) and finally "unsupported"... hahahaha! I'm sorry, but OEM support is crap for OS issues, and Microsoft is too expensive for private users. Besides, most people don't call tech-support, they call someone "who knows". That's usually me: I'm their tech-support and supporting a pirated version of Windows is as easy as a legal version... Sometimes easier because the OEM crap isn't on the machine.
If I'd bill Microsoft for all the "tech support" that I did for them, they would owe me the licenses of a few server farms.
Any links? Since the monk is Flemish, why wouldn't he write Dutch? After all, Flemish is Dutch. (Yes, I am Flemish... but not a monk)
Not installing SP2 is commonly known as "stupid" by people who care about system security.