Interesting you call that a success. In the age of the Internet I can reach more people than Jesus ever could in his lifetime. So if I create a website with the sole words "be good to each other" and make sure it's heavily advertised, I'll be doing a better job than him.
It awfully sounds to me like the argument that there wouldn't be morality without Religion and that is not true. As a social species, our morality comes from within and evolved with us. Nobody needed to bring us such a message.
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Actually, no... I think of specific people who have real trouble running Windows or Mac OS X based machines. but do manage to use iOS based devices. I actually tried avoiding the "think different(ly)" phrase, and apparently I oversaw this one. If you have a person with 0% technical knowledge and 0% willingness to learn anything technological, then you've got a potential happy iOS user. Such a person is my wife. She never got along with her Windows XP machine, and basically, I had to do everything if she needed something to be done. I wasted a ton of money on an expensive iMac in the hope that would help. It did a bit, resulting in less work for me, but it was far from what I'd expected. Then, by a series of unwanted events I got her an iPhone (I originally didn't want to get her an iPhone) and what happened was absolutely incredible. She actually started to use the Internet as I have done for years, she uses it to buy songs, she sends pictures to her friends by email, she now uses facebook and youtube. It is amazing.
She is not stupid, she is just absolutely not tech inclined at all. For me that was an eye opener. iDevices are not for us geeks, they are for the rest of "them".
For the record: I do not use Apple products myself. I use Linux on the cheapest machines I can buy or get out of the dumpster. For me, Apple is too expensive as I do know how to manage computers.
This "discussion" has been going on for years in the States. I only got aware of it by following atheist blogs and podcasts (Pharyngula, Atheist Experience). There has been a big trial of which, when I first heard of it, thought it played somewhere in the early nineteen-fifties or so. Not so... 2005.
In Europe this literalism is much less widespread. Catholic doctrine says evolution is true (by now, probably not 100 years ago) so that eliminates literalism across a huge part of Europe. Also, in Europe, religion is supposed (and accepted, from my point of view) as a largely personal thing, not to be shared or proselytised.
It was an analogy, and every analogy has its flaws. It was just to illustrate that the way Windows has the stranglehold on the desktop market, the iPad has a stranglehold on the tablet market. I'm not an Apple fan, but I have seen what iOS devices do to people that can't use a regular computer (They're not stupid, they just think in significantly different ways than we do) I agree with your points, those are the reasons the iPad took off... That and a significant amount of marketing plus the excellent reputation Apple has with regular people.
I know you are right, but the problem is as following:
You either have to be significantly cheaper than the iPad to compete on similar capabilities. When I mean "cheaper", I don't mean $50 cheaper, I mean really much cheaper. If it's only 50€ difference, get an iPad, then you get something "known to work". This is the "perceived" value, you talk about. Capabilities includes quality hardware, so the cheaper ones you talk about are not competition.
Offer something that that the iPad doesn't have and beat it on capabilities while matching the iPads price. That is very hard as the iPad has so much going for it: large installed base, great "walled garden" app store (Which is a "pro" for most people, I assure you) , quality hardware. You simply know what you get... It cannot something that only few people care about, as that will not give you a great install base.
The iPad has become the "Windows of Tablets". The two arguments above are exactly why Windows still rules on the desktop.
Thing is, when everybody does and you don't, and you don't have something that makes you "absolutely must have" for a company, then the attitude makes you unemployable. So, sure... I'm glad it works for you, and if everybody will start having the same stance as you at once, I'll be happy to run along. Until then, I'd rather have my paycheck.
When I was a kid, I had time to master a game because I could play hours and hours, and hours. These days, I'm lucky if I get an hour of gaming a week and on bus/plane trips when I'm on vacation. So, take my last vacation: I advanced nicely on GTA Liberty Stories on my PSP (Yes, yeah, I know... ). I come home, go back to normal life. Would I pick it up again, I'd be stuck. Most of the story has been forgotten, the level of skill required is definitely not "in me" anymore and the only option I have is to restart the game.
Which is what I do... Ever seeing the "end" of GTA. Never gonna happen.
Sometimes, I just hit a hard wall within the game. I have Assassins Creed "Bloodlines" on the PSP. I played and now I'm simply stuck at a boss. I played for hours and hours, trying to beat that damned witch, but I can't. Back in my youth, I'd probably just have persevered, but now, I just put it aside. Haven't touched the game in a year, probably ever won't again as I'll have to start again and probably get stuck at the same "wall".
This, to me, is the nature of gaming at a certain age. Yes, I'd rather finish the games too, but I don't think making them shorter is going to help. A dynamic adaptation to the skill level of the player would be much better for players like me.
For example, I consider my on-the-bus time part of my work day.
So, you get paid to sit on the bus? I mean, does it account towards your time for the company which is usually defined as 8h/day. If you still work 8h/day on top of what you do on the bus, then you are doing unpaid overtime.
I don't criticize your way of life, I only want to point out that commuting is not part of the "work day" if you're not getting paid during it. More power to you as you like your job and want to put in extra effort and time in it... Most people wont (as really, most people don't like their jobs... They are a necessary evil)
Of course the "treated like adults" might mean they don't track your on-company time and are happy as long as "the work is done". I used to work for a company like that (and go, figure, I loved it), but management changed and now I have to timestamp (Sorry, I'm not sure what the English word is) every day when I arrive and leave. Lovely for motivating the employees, I tell you.
That entirely depends on how much you drive, no? Mine is scheduled for a maintenance ever 15000km or every year. Given I drive 20000km/year, maintenance is about every nine months. My car is old (11.5 years) and a gas engine. I know that many newer diesel engines only require maintenance every 30000km or every two years.
Well, of course you could still define "few months" as "less than twelve months".
Long time ago: it is possible to save the settings to file, at least on mine (which is a Linksys WAP54G, so technically a access point. My router is a net5501-70 running OpenBSD) The file must be sitting on the file server (which is backupped nightly). I don't think my wireless routers configuration has changed significantly since that backup.
Not that that backup will help much, if the WAP fails, it most likely will be hardware failure . I've had it since May 2005 and unless it stops working, I have no reason to replace it.
I think you're seriously underestimating me and I wonder where the undertone aggression comes from. I just suggested making it a short test resulting in an easy message for the user (one of my replies within the thread) with an optional code for the power user. Basically, that's what the engine light is: "problem" to the "end user" and to the mechanic, he can go and read out the code from the engines firmware. For the record: Engine check lights do come up while you're driving, not only when you make initial contact. Your analogy is flawed.
For the record, as a dumpster diver, I get machines from all brands, all makes, all ages on my desk. I do use the POST, just it's not as useful as many think it is. Memory failure reports? I've only seen those on servers, indeed with a nice useful message "Bank 0, failed" or similar. I know where failures happen, I know how to identify them.
I'm not suggesting servers couldn't boot faster, just that they DO have more things on their plate than a desktop
Yes, and if you had any notion of context you'd realise we were talking about desktops. I do work with servers professionally and they take forever to POST. Do I have a problem with that? Of course not... We were talking desktops, if you had even bothered a second with the article.
No, the local recycling centre if I can get away with it (It's not allowed). Currently, P-IVs and AMD64 of the earlier generations seem to be the norm. Laptops are very rare, you need to get lucky and see the person throwing them away. If you don't you'll never find the power supply, which usually makes the machine a non-go.
*sigh* No... It's a policy problem. If the corporate policy is to have all this stuff on each desktop then the system administrator is to comply. I'm in the camp of "minimal loading" myself, but try working in a big bank for example. It's insane what the policies are for those. Heavy AV, on-the-fly encryption, and whatnot... Look, he mentions Citrix... that alone should give you a hint in what kind of work environment he works.
As someone who actually remember Windows 2000, there is one thing it was really fair about. Boot times. When you got the desktop it was actually use-able. In XP this all changed, they put a lot of crap post-login, resulting in an unusable desktop. It was "officially" booted, logged in and ready to go, but in reality, you couldn't. Vista/7 might have a better boot handling, but then, who boots often these days? I surely don't. Ever since I've got Atom + Ubuntu, I don't even turn off my main desktop.
Ok. Fair enough. I may not have experience with desktop machines that actually say stuff like "Bad RAM in slot 1A". I'm sure you're right, but the only place I've POST actually say stuff like that was on servers.
Sure, as I said, I'm one of those people too. We're a dying breed though. I did help me multiple times (including beep codes in a SMP system with one fried CPU... that was a hard nut to crack), but as far most "problems" that "normal users" have with their computers, it's not on this level that they occur or that they can do anything with the information.
As a matter of fact, why not have a "Hardware broken" dialog, and then a standardized "Guru Meditation Code" for us, so we know what's going on.
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I first had to check whether it wasn't the first of April, though.
Yes, that is true... I found out about that one even later.
Interesting you call that a success. In the age of the Internet I can reach more people than Jesus ever could in his lifetime. So if I create a website with the sole words "be good to each other" and make sure it's heavily advertised, I'll be doing a better job than him.
It awfully sounds to me like the argument that there wouldn't be morality without Religion and that is not true. As a social species, our morality comes from within and evolved with us. Nobody needed to bring us such a message.
Actually, no... I think of specific people who have real trouble running Windows or Mac OS X based machines. but do manage to use iOS based devices. I actually tried avoiding the "think different(ly)" phrase, and apparently I oversaw this one. If you have a person with 0% technical knowledge and 0% willingness to learn anything technological, then you've got a potential happy iOS user. Such a person is my wife. She never got along with her Windows XP machine, and basically, I had to do everything if she needed something to be done. I wasted a ton of money on an expensive iMac in the hope that would help. It did a bit, resulting in less work for me, but it was far from what I'd expected. Then, by a series of unwanted events I got her an iPhone (I originally didn't want to get her an iPhone) and what happened was absolutely incredible. She actually started to use the Internet as I have done for years, she uses it to buy songs, she sends pictures to her friends by email, she now uses facebook and youtube. It is amazing.
She is not stupid, she is just absolutely not tech inclined at all. For me that was an eye opener. iDevices are not for us geeks, they are for the rest of "them".
For the record: I do not use Apple products myself. I use Linux on the cheapest machines I can buy or get out of the dumpster. For me, Apple is too expensive as I do know how to manage computers.
And? Did he succeed? /me turns on evening news....
Misunderstanding due to the bad use of "Eve".... Who Was Mitochondrial Eve?
Small guess: Not from the United States?
This "discussion" has been going on for years in the States. I only got aware of it by following atheist blogs and podcasts (Pharyngula, Atheist Experience). There has been a big trial of which, when I first heard of it, thought it played somewhere in the early nineteen-fifties or so. Not so... 2005.
In Europe this literalism is much less widespread. Catholic doctrine says evolution is true (by now, probably not 100 years ago) so that eliminates literalism across a huge part of Europe. Also, in Europe, religion is supposed (and accepted, from my point of view) as a largely personal thing, not to be shared or proselytised.
It was an analogy, and every analogy has its flaws. It was just to illustrate that the way Windows has the stranglehold on the desktop market, the iPad has a stranglehold on the tablet market. I'm not an Apple fan, but I have seen what iOS devices do to people that can't use a regular computer (They're not stupid, they just think in significantly different ways than we do) I agree with your points, those are the reasons the iPad took off... That and a significant amount of marketing plus the excellent reputation Apple has with regular people.
I know you are right, but the problem is as following:
The iPad has become the "Windows of Tablets". The two arguments above are exactly why Windows still rules on the desktop.
Thing is, when everybody does and you don't, and you don't have something that makes you "absolutely must have" for a company, then the attitude makes you unemployable. So, sure... I'm glad it works for you, and if everybody will start having the same stance as you at once, I'll be happy to run along. Until then, I'd rather have my paycheck.
It's that unemployment is kinda hard when you've got bills to pay.
Good, then you're one of the lucky few. I used to have that. It was great.
When I was a kid, I had time to master a game because I could play hours and hours, and hours. These days, I'm lucky if I get an hour of gaming a week and on bus/plane trips when I'm on vacation. So, take my last vacation: I advanced nicely on GTA Liberty Stories on my PSP (Yes, yeah, I know... ). I come home, go back to normal life. Would I pick it up again, I'd be stuck. Most of the story has been forgotten, the level of skill required is definitely not "in me" anymore and the only option I have is to restart the game.
Which is what I do... Ever seeing the "end" of GTA. Never gonna happen.
Sometimes, I just hit a hard wall within the game. I have Assassins Creed "Bloodlines" on the PSP. I played and now I'm simply stuck at a boss. I played for hours and hours, trying to beat that damned witch, but I can't. Back in my youth, I'd probably just have persevered, but now, I just put it aside. Haven't touched the game in a year, probably ever won't again as I'll have to start again and probably get stuck at the same "wall".
This, to me, is the nature of gaming at a certain age. Yes, I'd rather finish the games too, but I don't think making them shorter is going to help. A dynamic adaptation to the skill level of the player would be much better for players like me.
So, you get paid to sit on the bus? I mean, does it account towards your time for the company which is usually defined as 8h/day. If you still work 8h/day on top of what you do on the bus, then you are doing unpaid overtime.
I don't criticize your way of life, I only want to point out that commuting is not part of the "work day" if you're not getting paid during it. More power to you as you like your job and want to put in extra effort and time in it... Most people wont (as really, most people don't like their jobs... They are a necessary evil)
Of course the "treated like adults" might mean they don't track your on-company time and are happy as long as "the work is done". I used to work for a company like that (and go, figure, I loved it), but management changed and now I have to timestamp (Sorry, I'm not sure what the English word is) every day when I arrive and leave. Lovely for motivating the employees, I tell you.
... and it requires no electricity ...
That entirely depends on how much you drive, no? Mine is scheduled for a maintenance ever 15000km or every year. Given I drive 20000km/year, maintenance is about every nine months. My car is old (11.5 years) and a gas engine. I know that many newer diesel engines only require maintenance every 30000km or every two years.
Well, of course you could still define "few months" as "less than twelve months".
Long time ago: it is possible to save the settings to file, at least on mine (which is a Linksys WAP54G, so technically a access point. My router is a net5501-70 running OpenBSD) The file must be sitting on the file server (which is backupped nightly). I don't think my wireless routers configuration has changed significantly since that backup.
Not that that backup will help much, if the WAP fails, it most likely will be hardware failure . I've had it since May 2005 and unless it stops working, I have no reason to replace it.
Simple HTML: <a href="http:/example.com">Example</a> yields: Example.
The POST doesn't do much in those cases either, except for beep codes. Those can be kept as is.
I think you're seriously underestimating me and I wonder where the undertone aggression comes from. I just suggested making it a short test resulting in an easy message for the user (one of my replies within the thread) with an optional code for the power user. Basically, that's what the engine light is: "problem" to the "end user" and to the mechanic, he can go and read out the code from the engines firmware. For the record: Engine check lights do come up while you're driving, not only when you make initial contact. Your analogy is flawed.
For the record, as a dumpster diver, I get machines from all brands, all makes, all ages on my desk. I do use the POST, just it's not as useful as many think it is. Memory failure reports? I've only seen those on servers, indeed with a nice useful message "Bank 0, failed" or similar. I know where failures happen, I know how to identify them.
Yes, and if you had any notion of context you'd realise we were talking about desktops. I do work with servers professionally and they take forever to POST. Do I have a problem with that? Of course not... We were talking desktops, if you had even bothered a second with the article.
No, the local recycling centre if I can get away with it (It's not allowed). Currently, P-IVs and AMD64 of the earlier generations seem to be the norm. Laptops are very rare, you need to get lucky and see the person throwing them away. If you don't you'll never find the power supply, which usually makes the machine a non-go.
*sigh* No... It's a policy problem. If the corporate policy is to have all this stuff on each desktop then the system administrator is to comply. I'm in the camp of "minimal loading" myself, but try working in a big bank for example. It's insane what the policies are for those. Heavy AV, on-the-fly encryption, and whatnot... Look, he mentions Citrix... that alone should give you a hint in what kind of work environment he works.
As someone who actually remember Windows 2000, there is one thing it was really fair about. Boot times. When you got the desktop it was actually use-able. In XP this all changed, they put a lot of crap post-login, resulting in an unusable desktop. It was "officially" booted, logged in and ready to go, but in reality, you couldn't. Vista/7 might have a better boot handling, but then, who boots often these days? I surely don't. Ever since I've got Atom + Ubuntu, I don't even turn off my main desktop.
Ok. Fair enough. I may not have experience with desktop machines that actually say stuff like "Bad RAM in slot 1A". I'm sure you're right, but the only place I've POST actually say stuff like that was on servers.
Sure, as I said, I'm one of those people too. We're a dying breed though. I did help me multiple times (including beep codes in a SMP system with one fried CPU... that was a hard nut to crack), but as far most "problems" that "normal users" have with their computers, it's not on this level that they occur or that they can do anything with the information.
As a matter of fact, why not have a "Hardware broken" dialog, and then a standardized "Guru Meditation Code" for us, so we know what's going on.