5) The world's resources get entirely used up in the creation of new boy bands by Ron Perlman.
6) Al Gore invents Armageddon.
7) God, upon hearing that there is a new Enya CD about to come out, decides to have mercy upon the human race and obliterates it.
8) Or another CD by Enrique Iglesias, or the Latino Donny Osmond himself, Ricky Martin.
9) The woman in front of me in the DMV line decides that she hasn't put on enough perfume, cause her anaesthetised nose buds are burned out from the chemical assault of the three gallons she's already wearing, she puts on some more and lights a cigarette, vaporising the entire atmosphere at once.
10) Someone attempts to clean the microwave in our server room, unearthing a long-chained demon and unleashing its terror upon the planet.
1) Buried alive under AOL discs - or at the very least, suffocated by the fumes generated from desperately trying to burn them all.
2) All the documentation on XFree86 window server installation notes, questions as to the mode you'd use with a Nigli SVGAblaster and a KonuchiWinti 1200 monitor, etc. gets put into one place, undergoes gravitational collapse, and becomes a black hole
3) The Internet reaches a certain size thanks to people like AOL and WebTV and the universe reaches critical stupidity mass.
4) Signal 11's Karma reaches a point where it critically unbalances the magnetosphere and the earth gets roasted with solar flares.
would you want a laptop that when closed resembles the Millenium Falcon?
I rest my case.
How many of these will get broken, I wonder, by some MORON thinking that the camera is some kind of joystick control, "yup, up, down, up down, right *SNAP* oops, uh, gotta go"
...there appears to be no way to get people to follow PRINCIPLES, not laws.
"Don't steal" is common sense in theory, but enforcing that is pretty useless. What exactly is theft, anyway? Well, it's defined as... whatever, and then people just redefine the terms, or find some way to skate around the exact language of the definition and do it anyway.
Law and technology... well, I think what's more important than "what laws are on the books" is "what kinds of principles is this leading to" and "how are people trying to enforce/not enforce this?"
At the risk of sounding like Doctor Laura Sslesschingjer (sp?)... I mean principles in terms of realities, not the "principles and morals" definition.
I mean, every thing to have come down the pike recently has been about what we're doing vs what the law says. Microsoft for example. I think everyone can agree they're doing some pretty vile things, but "this is an operating system enhancement, the law only talks about products", "oh, we agreed not to do that for Windows 95. This is Windows 98. Note the name change?" etc is its typical weaseling around any law and therefore "legal".
What people do with said law is more important than the law itself.
If the kernel doesn't build out of the box, the box shouldn't ship.
What part of this is confusing to you? I'm no newbie - but I'm talking on behalf of those who are.
"You shouldn't be messing with that stuff anyway" - yeah, well if you want to add a soundcard or other hardware, you sometimes have to, even if you don't want to or don't know how. That's why make xconfig is an option.
Keep in mind that Linux is starting to dominate the server market, and that many web sites run off it. Compatibility with Linux would be key to having their VM implemented in far more places.
Putting a truly cross-platform VM in place that recognises Linux's heavy hitting in the Internet world puts them where the money's going.
There's a couple of obvious "har har check out where the PC card goes" posts, but consider the potential tastelessness of having an interface prong stuck underneath AIBO so that it'd have to do the "happy to see you leg manoever" to transfer data.
Considering the sense of humor of some engineers, thank heaven for small mercies.
I understand your frustration with this scenario - many of these bugs are not with your code but with others, but there appears to be frustration all around. I applaud you for publishing your errors and fixing them, as well. However, there are certain things I can't abide by.
I'll give you a personal example of what's griping me. I installed the Inti class library because I was looking for a decent object oriented framework under which to develop Linux/GNOME apps. I can't even compile a basic tutorial program with it, because the gtk library that got installed with RedHat 7.0 is a devel one that's prone to crashing, deprecation problems, etc. The error message advised me to go and get a different version of the GTK in order to compile a basic "Hello World" style program.
I'd understand it if I found a complex bug. Really, I would. But what I found was something anyone could have found by taking a blank machine, installing RH7.0 and then trying to compile a program that RedHat has on its website as a tutorial.
A packaged, paid-for distribution is NOT the place for devel code, for alpha code, use at your own risk code, strange new worlds of compilers that can't even build the kernel, etc. Make that an option if you wish.
The best way to continue in your business is to get out of the CD world entirely - except to publish one on ISO and at nominal cost as a baseline, and then have a subscription-based service whereby when I log on to my RedHat machine I'm advised of new developments and offers to upgrade given packages.
I thought about returning the Windows part, until I opened the box on my laptop (a Toshiba) to read the sticker that says that by having purchased the computer, I've implicitly bought the Windows operating system too and that I have no rights to a refund on said product. You got $90 of my money for something I don't use. I hope you choke on it.
I was going to return the computer, but the 10% restocking fee on the PC would have cost even more.
You don't want naked PCs, Microsoft, then start a refunds division, cause I'm making sure Janet Reno gets a photocopy of that notice that came in the box, covering the computer. With any luck that tactic'll cost you a few billion at the hands of the DOJ, and you'll be forced to sell ONE and ONLY ONE copy of your software to people. Ramp it up. It'll be busy.
That way, when electronics experimentors in high school the world over steal a handful of these from the poorly guarded electronics cabinet, and then subsequently wire them in reverse into a 220V shop socket and hit the switch, not only will they flare into flame, they'll go "OW!"
Easy. Just go past the banks of NT machines the bosses know about to the back of the computer room, where the various foul smelling trolls who couldn't get a date in high school sit around and nervously titter around their various arcane boxen while emitting clouds of methane and going on about the latest Star Trek, X files or other geekery.
Duelling geeks is an ugly thing. One opens up with Linux, which shows him to be effete. BSD! Har! We go up one on the l337 haX0r rung. Then the skinny pimple farm with the Shaggy-out-of-scooby-doo pathetic attempt at a beard shows his working version of Plan 9.
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I almost forgot:
5) The world's resources get entirely used up in the creation of new boy bands by Ron Perlman.
6) Al Gore invents Armageddon.
7) God, upon hearing that there is a new Enya CD about to come out, decides to have mercy upon the human race and obliterates it.
8) Or another CD by Enrique Iglesias, or the Latino Donny Osmond himself, Ricky Martin.
9) The woman in front of me in the DMV line decides that she hasn't put on enough perfume, cause her anaesthetised nose buds are burned out from the chemical assault of the three gallons she's already wearing, she puts on some more and lights a cigarette, vaporising the entire atmosphere at once.
10) Someone attempts to clean the microwave in our server room, unearthing a long-chained demon and unleashing its terror upon the planet.
1) Buried alive under AOL discs - or at the very least, suffocated by the fumes generated from desperately trying to burn them all.
2) All the documentation on XFree86 window server installation notes, questions as to the mode you'd use with a Nigli SVGAblaster and a KonuchiWinti 1200 monitor, etc. gets put into one place, undergoes gravitational collapse, and becomes a black hole
3) The Internet reaches a certain size thanks to people like AOL and WebTV and the universe reaches critical stupidity mass.
4) Signal 11's Karma reaches a point where it critically unbalances the magnetosphere and the earth gets roasted with solar flares.
would you want a laptop that when closed resembles the Millenium Falcon?
I rest my case.
How many of these will get broken, I wonder, by some MORON thinking that the camera is some kind of joystick control, "yup, up, down, up down, right *SNAP* oops, uh, gotta go"
Sorry... the boss came in... had to quit that early...
As it stands right now, an American working in Canada under a NAFTA visa can have his or her spouse and children work; they get work authorization.
This is not true for Canadians entering the USA.
It was agreed in principle during the NAFTA negotiations that spouses and children would get the right to continue to work while in the USA.
When are you going to correct this inequality?
Why not just offer Green Cards to the truly skilled workers being imported under H1?
Why haven't you followed through with the NAFTA visa situation of allowing spouses and wives of TNs to get work authorization?
...there appears to be no way to get people to follow PRINCIPLES, not laws.
"Don't steal" is common sense in theory, but enforcing that is pretty useless. What exactly is theft, anyway? Well, it's defined as... whatever, and then people just redefine the terms, or find some way to skate around the exact language of the definition and do it anyway.
Law and technology... well, I think what's more important than "what laws are on the books" is "what kinds of principles is this leading to" and "how are people trying to enforce/not enforce this?"
At the risk of sounding like Doctor Laura Sslesschingjer (sp?)... I mean principles in terms of realities, not the "principles and morals" definition.
I mean, every thing to have come down the pike recently has been about what we're doing vs what the law says. Microsoft for example. I think everyone can agree they're doing some pretty vile things, but "this is an operating system enhancement, the law only talks about products", "oh, we agreed not to do that for Windows 95. This is Windows 98. Note the name change?" etc is its typical weaseling around any law and therefore "legal".
What people do with said law is more important than the law itself.
I'm aware of this - it's just that we have to get the "Beowulf Cluster" and "Does X run Linux" posts out of the way.
That way normal, sane discussion can resume.
ObSayings begin
Imagine a beowulf cluster of these killer robots!
Do they run Linux?
ObSayings end
Bondage, Domination and Sadism Union?
;)
No wonder their logo is a demon!
OH! typo! Never mind.
...a decent and elegant installer like the Helixcode people have done, this'll sadly be in the realm of us professional types.
If the kernel doesn't build out of the box, the box shouldn't ship.
What part of this is confusing to you? I'm no newbie - but I'm talking on behalf of those who are.
"You shouldn't be messing with that stuff anyway" - yeah, well if you want to add a soundcard or other hardware, you sometimes have to, even if you don't want to or don't know how. That's why make xconfig is an option.
No, a streaming protocol.
And along comes someone to prove my point.
Keep in mind that Linux is starting to dominate the server market, and that many web sites run off it. Compatibility with Linux would be key to having their VM implemented in far more places.
Putting a truly cross-platform VM in place that recognises Linux's heavy hitting in the Internet world puts them where the money's going.
There's a couple of obvious "har har check out where the PC card goes" posts, but consider the potential tastelessness of having an interface prong stuck underneath AIBO so that it'd have to do the "happy to see you leg manoever" to transfer data.
Considering the sense of humor of some engineers, thank heaven for small mercies.
Am I the only person who has a problem with this scenario?
Either you can do development work, or you can compile the kernel, but not both.
Huh?
Doing a kernel rebuild is BASIC. It's one of THE things that should work.
If it's Pre-ALPHA, why is it in a paid-for packaged distribution as a "feature"?
There's a difference between something being unstable, and something being useless.
I don't remember reading the word "Experimental" in the install phase when I selected Inti. Just "Inti".
I understand your frustration with this scenario - many of these bugs are not with your code but with others, but there appears to be frustration all around. I applaud you for publishing your errors and fixing them, as well. However, there are certain things I can't abide by.
I'll give you a personal example of what's griping me. I installed the Inti class library because I was looking for a decent object oriented framework under which to develop Linux/GNOME apps. I can't even compile a basic tutorial program with it, because the gtk library that got installed with RedHat 7.0 is a devel one that's prone to crashing, deprecation problems, etc. The error message advised me to go and get a different version of the GTK in order to compile a basic "Hello World" style program.
I'd understand it if I found a complex bug. Really, I would. But what I found was something anyone could have found by taking a blank machine, installing RH7.0 and then trying to compile a program that RedHat has on its website as a tutorial.
A packaged, paid-for distribution is NOT the place for devel code, for alpha code, use at your own risk code, strange new worlds of compilers that can't even build the kernel, etc. Make that an option if you wish.
The best way to continue in your business is to get out of the CD world entirely - except to publish one on ISO and at nominal cost as a baseline, and then have a subscription-based service whereby when I log on to my RedHat machine I'm advised of new developments and offers to upgrade given packages.
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!!!
Which is running QNX and Linux, nothing else...
I thought about returning the Windows part, until I opened the box on my laptop (a Toshiba) to read the sticker that says that by having purchased the computer, I've implicitly bought the Windows operating system too and that I have no rights to a refund on said product. You got $90 of my money for something I don't use. I hope you choke on it.
I was going to return the computer, but the 10% restocking fee on the PC would have cost even more.
You don't want naked PCs, Microsoft, then start a refunds division, cause I'm making sure Janet Reno gets a photocopy of that notice that came in the box, covering the computer. With any luck that tactic'll cost you a few billion at the hands of the DOJ, and you'll be forced to sell ONE and ONLY ONE copy of your software to people. Ramp it up. It'll be busy.
That way, when electronics experimentors in high school the world over steal a handful of these from the poorly guarded electronics cabinet, and then subsequently wire them in reverse into a 220V shop socket and hit the switch, not only will they flare into flame, they'll go "OW!"
Well, he's TOTALLY WRONG.
All SEVEN times I got my TNs, I was told as my wife got her TD visa...
You KNOW you can't work with this, RIGHT? You are NOT ALLOWED TO WORK. You will be DEPORTED if you DO WORK.
FETWOT!
Fucking Expensive Total Waste Of Time!
Wonder if these will include the "anal probe" memory sticks, too?
Easy. Just go past the banks of NT machines the bosses know about to the back of the computer room, where the various foul smelling trolls who couldn't get a date in high school sit around and nervously titter around their various arcane boxen while emitting clouds of methane and going on about the latest Star Trek, X files or other geekery.
Duelling geeks is an ugly thing. One opens up with Linux, which shows him to be effete. BSD! Har! We go up one on the l337 haX0r rung. Then the skinny pimple farm with the Shaggy-out-of-scooby-doo pathetic attempt at a beard shows his working version of Plan 9.