My reason for learning both is simply to avoid getting screwed every time one of them needs serviced. You hit the nail on the head there. Exactly why I do mine own car work.:) Of course, spending a day under the hood of the computer is much less messy than under the hood of the car.;)
We shouldn't be forced to become nerds just to use computers, as much as we do not have to become mechanics to drive cars. Interesting, however what if you've become both? I work on my computer(s) and work on my car(s). Probably not atypical but if you like that sort of thing... The only problem I have is that after working on the car my hands are in no condition to work on the computer.
to do it. that way you don't have to actually scan each and every piece of email yourself. YOU won't be violating anybody's privacy (your script will, but no human eye sees the non-guilty mail) except for those who are violating company policy.
then have the script mail the postmaster (if that isn't you) a copy of the offending mail, and they can bring it up to management.
oh yeah, it detected and ran all EIGHT processors fine, i didn't really do much with it other than rc5 to see if it would hold up under the load (it did) and kicked out about 9.5-10Mkeys with 550Mhz processors.
i used what was the latest kernel at the time...2.2.5 or 7...it's been soo long.;)
What I'd like to know, is why they don't just cooborate and come up with a 'messaging standard'? We have AOL IM, MSN IM, ICQ, and a host of others. AOL owns ICQ, but is the AOL instant messanger compatible with ICQ? I don't think so...
I currently use ICQ because 1) i have a LOW number (below 200k), and 2) all my friends use ICQ. However some of my relatives and my parents friends are now joining the internet, and since they use AOL or MSN they, of course, use that provider's instant messenger.
IF we had at least a standard message format, ICQ users could add AOL or MSN users to their userlists and message away (or any other combination thereof). It's not like ICQ's format is secure - how many clones are there for X?
Just a thought - and I know that it won't be acted upon, after all look who I'm talking about - but if AOL or MSN had any shred of intelligence they'd realize this and stop bickering over something insignificant.
I was shocked and dismayed to find that they've brought the server back up... Interesting to see the status log and just how many times they've had to reboot after changing just ONE setting. They've also upgraded the server hardware due to the 'enormous popularity of the site'. HAH! '500 Mhz Pentium III with 256mb of RAM.'. Isn't the linuxppc machine a 133?
agreed. if you can't get in, what's the use of the root (or administrator) password?
it was down right before i came here - er, actually after because i hit slashdot, saw the link, thought i'd see if it was up (it wasn't) and came back here to comment on it.
and darn it, i was looking forward to upgrading again!
since these things started happening, i've had but one opinion on the matter.
it's the media's fault.
okay, i'll admit that it's not entirely the media's fault - they didn't give the kids guns and instructions to kill - but they might as well have. one kid, and it only takes ONE, gets the idea that getting his dad's shotgun out of the closet and going to school to take revenge on the people that persecuted him all year long would be an excellent solution to his low self-esteem.
hell haven't we ALL thought about it? wouldn't it be just SOO satisfying? what keeps US from doing it is the fact that we're still young and we really don't want to spend the next 50-60 years behind bars (among other things).
what the media does is put the fact that this kid out in po-dunk USA has done this, and now it's all over national news for everyone to see - including those kids who otherwise wouldn't have even thought about it. have you checked the news lately? can you turn the channel without having to see SOMETHING on this? i was at work at the time, but i'm pretty sure my wife got to see LIVE coverage of the event. AS IT HAPPENED. ON NATIONAL TELEVISION.
sure, it's newsworthy, but...they should have some moral obligation to the people. kids have enough to worry about, let alone trying to figure out if the loner/geek/nerd sitting next to them today is going to blow their head off tomorrow.
why hasn't anyone said anything about this before now? i can't believe that someone as well known as George Lucas wouldn't have put at least SOME media attention into something that's supposed to be as big as this...
No kidding. And then he goes on to say that browsers (ie Internet Explorer and Netscape) have been 'free' for a long time... WRONG! That's not what Open Source is about. Free is fine, but give us the source code as well. Thanks, Netscape, but I don't see MS giving out the source to IE5.0.
Has Gates been living under a rock for the past six months? Or was that his PR guy?
I guess that 8 processor system I got running RH 5.2 on last week didn't count in the study. Neither did any of the quad-xeon systems I've installed it on (or VA, for that matter), or the dual PPro I have sitting next to me.
Who are these people and how far up Gate's butt are they?
...you and me both. and a bunch of friends of mine from work. and another friend of mine who's company was going to rent a theater for the day, until, of course, they (meaning the movie promoters) decided that that wasn't kosher and cancelled that sort of thing.
i WILL be there the first day. oh yes, she will be mine.
saw this (sortof) on Discovery or TLC last week - they had a show on Robots and while they didn't cover the pet-bot in detail they DID show it playing with a ball and getting rowdy.
I thought it was extremely cute, nearly lifelike even. I'd get one just to see what it could do.:)
Look, we don't want Linux to become the AOL of the OS market. MS does that already. 'look, ma! i installed linux all by myself!'
I'll admit to being a relatively new Linux user, but like the article read - I'm getting tired of people coming up to me and asking me questions when they just could have RTFM. It didn't take me that long to learn to do it myself so why should those of us who HAVE made the effort suffer?
I'd like to see linux easier to use, but realistically do you want your MOM to be able to install it - without knowing ANYTHING about what's going on behind the GUI?
Carl Sagan must have been rolling in his grave.
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If you'd have read the book, you would realize that the "you've got to have faith" mentality was what the whole damned thing was about. Faith in yourself, faith in a 'supreme being', faith in SOMETHING.
You also missed the point that they NEVER TOLD HER that there were 18 hours of static on the recorder. They only showed her 2 seconds.
Carl Sagan was working with the cast and crew of Contact during it's production and died before he could see it in finished form. Regardless of how poor the movie was in bringing the story of the book to life (and what movie based on the book has?), it was dedicated to him because A) it was his book and B) he died while they were making it.
you guys are obviously too young to enjoy star wars. i, for one, am taking may 19th off from my job at an extremely large chip-manufacturing employer and will watch the new star wars episode at LEAST twice in that day.
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My reason for learning both is simply to avoid getting screwed every time one of them needs serviced. :) Of course, spending a day under the hood of the computer is much less messy than under the hood of the car. ;)
You hit the nail on the head there. Exactly why I do mine own car work.
We shouldn't be forced to become nerds just to use computers, as much as we do not have to become mechanics to drive cars. Interesting, however what if you've become both? I work on my computer(s) and work on my car(s). Probably not atypical but if you like that sort of thing... The only problem I have is that after working on the car my hands are in no condition to work on the computer.
to do it. that way you don't have to actually scan each and every piece of email yourself. YOU won't be violating anybody's privacy (your script will, but no human eye sees the non-guilty mail) except for those who are violating company policy.
then have the script mail the postmaster (if that isn't you) a copy of the offending mail, and they can bring it up to management.
perl is cool.
oh yeah, it detected and ran all EIGHT processors fine, i didn't really do much with it other than rc5 to see if it would hold up under the load (it did) and kicked out about 9.5-10Mkeys with 550Mhz processors.
;)
i used what was the latest kernel at the time...2.2.5 or 7...it's been soo long.
been there, done that, installed RH 5.2 on it, got nearly 4k bogomips.
the joys of working with pre-release product.
What I'd like to know, is why they don't just cooborate and come up with a 'messaging standard'? We have AOL IM, MSN IM, ICQ, and a host of others. AOL owns ICQ, but is the AOL instant messanger compatible with ICQ? I don't think so...
I currently use ICQ because 1) i have a LOW number (below 200k), and 2) all my friends use ICQ. However some of my relatives and my parents friends are now joining the internet, and since they use AOL or MSN they, of course, use that provider's instant messenger.
IF we had at least a standard message format, ICQ users could add AOL or MSN users to their userlists and message away (or any other combination thereof). It's not like ICQ's format is secure - how many clones are there for X?
Just a thought - and I know that it won't be acted upon, after all look who I'm talking about - but if AOL or MSN had any shred of intelligence they'd realize this and stop bickering over something insignificant.
I was shocked and dismayed to find that they've brought the server back up... Interesting to see the status log and just how many times they've had to reboot after changing just ONE setting. They've also upgraded the server hardware due to the 'enormous popularity of the site'. HAH! '500 Mhz Pentium III with 256mb of RAM.'. Isn't the linuxppc machine a 133?
agreed. if you can't get in, what's the use of the root (or administrator) password?
it was down right before i came here - er, actually after because i hit slashdot, saw the link, thought i'd see if it was up (it wasn't) and came back here to comment on it.
and darn it, i was looking forward to upgrading again!
this guy is so obviously trolling for FUD it's not even funny.
he contradicts himself by saying that Unix was running the internet before Linux was a glimmer - doesn't he realize that Linux is BASED on Unix?
and just how, exactly does he propose to pry the source code for Windows out of Gates' fingers?
THAT i'd like to see.
since these things started happening, i've had but one opinion on the matter.
it's the media's fault.
okay, i'll admit that it's not entirely the media's fault - they didn't give the kids guns and instructions to kill - but they might as well have. one kid, and it only takes ONE, gets the idea that getting his dad's shotgun out of the closet and going to school to take revenge on the people that persecuted him all year long would be an excellent solution to his low self-esteem.
hell haven't we ALL thought about it? wouldn't it be just SOO satisfying? what keeps US from doing it is the fact that we're still young and we really don't want to spend the next 50-60 years behind bars (among other things).
what the media does is put the fact that this kid out in po-dunk USA has done this, and now it's all over national news for everyone to see - including those kids who otherwise wouldn't have even thought about it. have you checked the news lately? can you turn the channel without having to see SOMETHING on this? i was at work at the time, but i'm pretty sure my wife got to see LIVE coverage of the event. AS IT HAPPENED. ON NATIONAL TELEVISION.
sure, it's newsworthy, but...they should have some moral obligation to the people. kids have enough to worry about, let alone trying to figure out if the loner/geek/nerd sitting next to them today is going to blow their head off tomorrow.
but that's just my opinion...i could be wrong.
why hasn't anyone said anything about this before now? i can't believe that someone as well known as George Lucas wouldn't have put at least SOME media attention into something that's supposed to be as big as this...
No kidding. And then he goes on to say that browsers (ie Internet Explorer and Netscape) have been 'free' for a long time... WRONG! That's not what Open Source is about. Free is fine, but give us the source code as well. Thanks, Netscape, but I don't see MS giving out the source to IE5.0.
Has Gates been living under a rock for the past six months? Or was that his PR guy?
The AD450NX is bigger. :) Up to 8 Gigs of RAM, 12 SCSI-2 Hot-Swap bays, 6 32-bit PCI & 5 64-bit PCI...
AD450NX link at developer.intel.com.
These are REALLY stable SMP under Linux, and I cringe at running NT under ANY processor. (plus at 500Mhz they'll do 5 to 6Mkeys/s)
I guess that 8 processor system I got running RH 5.2 on last week didn't count in the study. Neither did any of the quad-xeon systems I've installed it on (or VA, for that matter), or the dual PPro I have sitting next to me.
Who are these people and how far up Gate's butt are they?
...you and me both. and a bunch of friends of mine from work. and another friend of mine who's company was going to rent a theater for the day, until, of course, they (meaning the movie promoters) decided that that wasn't kosher and cancelled that sort of thing.
i WILL be there the first day. oh yes, she will be mine.
saw this (sortof) on Discovery or TLC last week - they had a show on Robots and while they didn't cover the pet-bot in detail they DID show it playing with a ball and getting rowdy.
:)
I thought it was extremely cute, nearly lifelike even. I'd get one just to see what it could do.
Look, we don't want Linux to become the AOL of the OS market. MS does that already. 'look, ma! i installed linux all by myself!'
I'll admit to being a relatively new Linux user, but like the article read - I'm getting tired of people coming up to me and asking me questions when they just could have RTFM. It didn't take me that long to learn to do it myself so why should those of us who HAVE made the effort suffer?
I'd like to see linux easier to use, but realistically do you want your MOM to be able to install it - without knowing ANYTHING about what's going on behind the GUI?
If you'd have read the book, you would realize that the "you've got to have faith" mentality was what the whole damned thing was about. Faith in yourself, faith in a 'supreme being', faith in SOMETHING.
You also missed the point that they NEVER TOLD HER that there were 18 hours of static on the recorder. They only showed her 2 seconds.
Carl Sagan was working with the cast and crew of Contact during it's production and died before he could see it in finished form. Regardless of how poor the movie was in bringing the story of the book to life (and what movie based on the book has?), it was dedicated to him because A) it was his book and B) he died while they were making it.
this is true. paganism is NOT satanism. pagans tend to be in touch with nature and 'one with the universe'. they revel life and the world around them.
i don't know what satanists do, per se, but they are NOT on the same plane of existance that the rest of us are.
because if there were, we'd ALL have one. :P
you guys are obviously too young to enjoy star wars. i, for one, am taking may 19th off from my job at an extremely large chip-manufacturing employer and will watch the new star wars episode at LEAST twice in that day.
go george lucas, and thank you rob.