i imagine they have a different audience in mind with this one. the folks that live in/on bainbridge and have to take the ferry over everyday to work in downtown seattle could save a lot of time with something like this.
it could eventually be marketed like the current SUV market. people will buy them just because they're percieved to be kewl.
don't quite know how this got modded as a troll...i think it's a valid point.... but... there is always a cost. time in this case. it takes time to search for all those songs and to listen to them once they're downloaded to make sure they're not bogus songs. when the price of the cd's drop to where it's a hassle to download them, then people will buy the cd. at least more often. you still have to wade through the bogus songs on the disk, but that's another aspect of the product that will have to change to. the problem with this solution is that it requires change from a businss that quite frankly doesn't want to change in a direction that percieveably will lower the bottom line (not many capatilistic CEO/CFO/COO/CXO, etc. will). there would be a huge risk involved and the big players aren't willing to do it.
there's a middle ground between all or no logic in the "storage layer". tables thems selves contain application logic, checking row types, etc.
SQL does not promote code reuse,
most database queries are reused thus prepared statements were born, and stored procedures. the database folks, bless their hearts, said "hey, you're using that querry quite a bit, how about we just compile it all up in the database for you and speed things up a bit, eh?".. bang, code reuse.
The more code you put in a DB, the less portable your schema is
databases aren't about portability, they're about stability. sure, the cheep database users (PostgreSQL, MySQL, etc) want to keep portable in case something better comes along, but those who spend 500,000$ for their RDBMS software package will keep it around for a tad. they're focused on making sure that their data is available when they need it and that it's reliable data. the RDBMS software ensures that, not some application programmer reading/. all day.
The company I work for now has terabytes of data stored in the schemas I've developed for my apps
bravo... most companies have terabytes of data stored in their schemas used by their applications written by their developers. they realize the advantages and disadvantages of using certain features of the rdbms and put them to use accordingly (sometimes they might get it right, some times they might not). it's interesting that you design the software that you develop that the company uses for it's terabytes of data. i've found in places i've worked that we create designs for applications to be developed for he company uses to run its business. you might find that if you take out all those i's and use lots of we's for the good of the compnay, you'll still get some credit;).
mozilla's largest strength, like any other GNU/GPL/MPL/OpenSource application is in it's flexability and it's speed to market. every day you can download a new version of mozilla, possibly with new an exciting features.
its strength lies in its application features, not rendering differences. tabbed browsing.... it's been said too much, but it's wonderfull. bookmarking all the tabs at once and re-opening them up is also an added feature to the surfing experience. it's debatable weather the "no pop-up" feature is good or bad, but i'll leave my pop-ups turned off.
mozilla has found a way to enahnce the user surfing experience without extending the web standards, something other browsers will envy. konqueror has a hard time keeping up with mozilla since it's released as part of the kde desktop (which seems to be about twice a year or so).
It's a lot more than saying "it's a really good VCR!".
said by a true Tivo owner...
so, what is it more than a really good vcr? most vcr's can be programmed to record your Adult Swim show every day for you. you might have to swap out tapes every so often to keep a running archive. most cable networks integrate this into their programming and have smart programming of vcr's that nearly make the process useable by even good 'ol G.W. (though i'm not sure after the pretzel indicent).
what is it about a 3D graphics chip that facilitates window dragging? isn't this a 2D problem? sure most modern cards have good 2D capabilities, but i didn't know that there has been that much change in the 2d area lately. from my personal use, xfree on a decent 2d card works very nicely, and i can even drag the windows around (even between the virtual desktops:)) now once i can get the ability from xfree to change my actual screen resolution on the fly, i'll be a happy camper.
comeon now. if you've got a box that NEED to be running RH 6.1, i'd question the need for a web browser (outside of _maybe_ lynx). if you need a web browser on the box, get with the times. the upgrade cd's are relatively cheep, chances are someone will send um to you if you can't download/burn the iso's.
pheonix is based on the mozilla core w/ all the extras ripped out (email, irc, composer, etc). there's times for those features
... i'd stick with IE6 until newer technology was needed then switch to Netscape or Mozilla.
what's holding you back now? a love for pop-up windows perhaps? never tried tab browsing maybe?
i'll openly admit that OpenOffice has a way to go to catch up to MS Office (for one, OO could use the ability to import powerpoint slides from external documents), though it it great for smaller tasks. but,... though it was a long time in the making mozilla has surpassed IE as an internet browser, and contines to chug along past it. go ahead, make the switch, you won't regret it!!
sorry, i thought the order on this was a little out of place, i ususally see them in this order for some reason?
* free Viagra
* your penis being enlarged
* FREE HOT XXX TEENS
* losing 500 pounds in two weeks
* an easy college diploma
* making money very quickly
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if only all distributions made it this easy. if only gentoo weren't so damn wacked out to install. the 1.4 completely built (stage 3) iso's should be nice, but working of the stage 2 rc1 was quite a task in and of itself.
cli is good for work, X is more of a toy to play with after work.
ahh, the days of using magicwindows to switch terminals on the vt320. where's the fricking "do" key on these damn pc's? oh well, that one didn't "do" much anyway...
come on, national represenatives aren't responsible for your local potholes (unless you live right off I-80). that's local folks, most likely at the state level.
the majority of amerians don't now what the dmca is because it's not news worthy, people aren't dying over it, and there's nothing sexy about it. what it does do is infringe on first ammendment rights, but people really don't care about that these days as long as we've got our homeland security in place
i find it very disturbing that most officials are very quiet about this issue. they'll talk taxes, and homeland security left and right, but never really raise this issue. you don't bite the hand that feeds you.
i use e quite a bit these days also. i really like kde, but couldn't figure out how to drag a window to another virtual desktop. i know you can use their "send to" functionality, but it's not the same.
i wouldn't argue that *nix can (and certainly is) ad good desktop OS, but i'm not so sure how popular it is. i guess it's what you define popular as. OS X is also a nitche market desktop operating system. I believe MS has about 95% desktop saturation right now, and I don't see that number changing as fast as Netscape Navigator's hold on the browser changed. i think it will take a huge revolution in the corporate world to get those numbers to change. the education market might change a little faster due to economic budget restraints, but the corporate world is where the big changes neds to happen.
If you need Oracle 9i and you need x86, there's Oracle for Linux I'm thinking Oracle ran a few performance tests of x86/Solaris/Oracle and x86/Linux/Oracle, then chose the platform that would give them the marketing numbers they need (and the performance their customers NEED). Originally Oracle/Linux was more a developer training tool, now it seems to be attempting ot compete with SQL Server. GO Oracle!
IIRC, version 5.2 was from Star Division, not Sun. If it was sun, it was released right after the acquisition from Star Division, thus under the Star Division license. StarOffice has always been, AFAIK, free for non-comercial use. The fact that it now costs a little lets those people who need the extras that OpenOffice doesn't offer get them at a REASONABLE price.
SUN gave a HUGE contribution to the open source community by opening up OpenOffice. Distributions can now install open office by default with out any license issues. Even hard core GPL distributions such as Debian can have it in their stable branch.
I really doubt that SUN is releasing their x86 version to gain desktop market. Contrary to the/. crowd, *nix isn't a popular desktop platform, and I wouldn't bet the farm that solaris is going to change that.
There's a nitche market for users who like or want to learn solars to further develop their careers at places that spend huge money on SUN hardware. There's also 2-3 people who prefer it over other *nix variants but just can't get their hands on the hardware. I've got an ULTRA-5 sitting idle on my desk right now (and 3 in the next cube) because my P2-366 is easier to use. Should I need to prototype a web site in JSP, I guess it's available to save my laptop some ticks.
As far as opening their sources, I don't think it's the solaris sources they're talking about, but the compatibility test sutes. The bread and butter for sun is solaris, hardware and support. By them protecting the internals of solaris (the API is open), they're protecting their support revenue. If they open source solaris, that opens the flood gates for other companies to offer support for their hardware and software. I doubt we'll ever see that from SUN.
Release it on January 1st 2003 and call it Linux 2004.
so that's why the marketing folks always have to have a floor all on their own:). it's a kernel not a distribution. RH GNU/Linux 2004 would be good (from a marketing perspective), but linux 2004? that's like ms renaming their kernel32.dll to windowsXPkernel32.dll. you know so when the message pops up that there's an error in windowsXPkernel32.dll, you really know what product you're using. then again, the marketing folks at ms probably see this message too and wouldn't want to give the user any more firepower.
in case you haven't heard, the java gui toolkits/class libraries/packages/whatever just aren't there. there has always been, and continues to be serious usability from the java gui kits. they're not horrible, but they're not the win32/kde/gnome applications that work and feel the same. until we get java as the desktop platform, it's not going to be the same.
i agree that a store can charge pretty much whatever the hell they want (you have to qualify that because i recall on 12 Sept 2001, many gas stations were selling for 4-5$ and upwords per gallon . fortunately:), our attorney general was around to save the day.
anyway, nearly anything that bestbuy sells "normally" for 60, joe's sells for 72$. joe doesn't have 100,000 sq. ft. of floor space that he can stock movies, dvd's, cd's, refridgerators, stereo equipment, etc. joe just sells computers, though he might repair them too. the advantage of going to joe's place is that for your extra 12$ you'll be pretty sure that when you ask joe if the printer can print under linux and if the color print cardridge is refillable (no microchip inside), joe will be able to give more than a "huh?!?, doh, i dunno."
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i imagine they have a different audience in mind with this one. the folks that live in/on bainbridge and have to take the ferry over everyday to work in downtown seattle could save a lot of time with something like this.
it could eventually be marketed like the current SUV market. people will buy them just because they're percieved to be kewl.
just get a friggin descramb^^^you own cable box. you'll be all set.
life is good...
don't quite know how this got modded as a troll...i think it's a valid point. ... but... there is always a cost. time in this case. it takes time to search for all those songs and to listen to them once they're downloaded to make sure they're not bogus songs. when the price of the cd's drop to where it's a hassle to download them, then people will buy the cd. at least more often. you still have to wade through the bogus songs on the disk, but that's another aspect of the product that will have to change to. the problem with this solution is that it requires change from a businss that quite frankly doesn't want to change in a direction that percieveably will lower the bottom line (not many capatilistic CEO/CFO/COO/CXO, etc. will). there would be a huge risk involved and the big players aren't willing to do it.
there's a middle ground between all or no logic in the "storage layer". tables thems selves contain application logic, checking row types, etc.
/. all day.
;).
SQL does not promote code reuse,
most database queries are reused thus prepared statements were born, and stored procedures. the database folks, bless their hearts, said "hey, you're using that querry quite a bit, how about we just compile it all up in the database for you and speed things up a bit, eh?".. bang, code reuse.
The more code you put in a DB, the less portable your schema is
databases aren't about portability, they're about stability. sure, the cheep database users (PostgreSQL, MySQL, etc) want to keep portable in case something better comes along, but those who spend 500,000$ for their RDBMS software package will keep it around for a tad. they're focused on making sure that their data is available when they need it and that it's reliable data. the RDBMS software ensures that, not some application programmer reading
The company I work for now has terabytes of data stored in the schemas I've developed for my apps
bravo... most companies have terabytes of data stored in their schemas used by their applications written by their developers. they realize the advantages and disadvantages of using certain features of the rdbms and put them to use accordingly (sometimes they might get it right, some times they might not). it's interesting that you design the software that you develop that the company uses for it's terabytes of data. i've found in places i've worked that we create designs for applications to be developed for he company uses to run its business. you might find that if you take out all those i's and use lots of we's for the good of the compnay, you'll still get some credit
mozilla's largest strength, like any other GNU/GPL/MPL/OpenSource application is in it's flexability and it's speed to market. every day you can download a new version of mozilla, possibly with new an exciting features.
its strength lies in its application features, not rendering differences. tabbed browsing.... it's been said too much, but it's wonderfull. bookmarking all the tabs at once and re-opening them up is also an added feature to the surfing experience. it's debatable weather the "no pop-up" feature is good or bad, but i'll leave my pop-ups turned off.
mozilla has found a way to enahnce the user surfing experience without extending the web standards, something other browsers will envy. konqueror has a hard time keeping up with mozilla since it's released as part of the kde desktop (which seems to be about twice a year or so).
It's a lot more than saying "it's a really good VCR!".
said by a true Tivo owner...
so, what is it more than a really good vcr? most vcr's can be programmed to record your Adult Swim show every day for you. you might have to swap out tapes every so often to keep a running archive. most cable networks integrate this into their programming and have smart programming of vcr's that nearly make the process useable by even good 'ol G.W. (though i'm not sure after the pretzel indicent).
Things like window dragging work really well.
:)) now once i can get the ability from xfree to change my actual screen resolution on the fly, i'll be a happy camper.
what is it about a 3D graphics chip that facilitates window dragging? isn't this a 2D problem? sure most modern cards have good 2D capabilities, but i didn't know that there has been that much change in the 2d area lately. from my personal use, xfree on a decent 2d card works very nicely, and i can even drag the windows around (even between the virtual desktops
but won't run on Redhat 6.1 like Opera will. :-(
comeon now. if you've got a box that NEED to be running RH 6.1, i'd question the need for a web browser (outside of _maybe_ lynx). if you need a web browser on the box, get with the times. the upgrade cd's are relatively cheep, chances are someone will send um to you if you can't download/burn the iso's.
pheonix is based on the mozilla core w/ all the extras ripped out (email, irc, composer, etc). there's times for those features
... i'd stick with IE6 until newer technology was needed then switch to Netscape or Mozilla.
... though it was a long time in the making mozilla has surpassed IE as an internet browser, and contines to chug along past it. go ahead, make the switch, you won't regret it!!
what's holding you back now? a love for pop-up windows perhaps? never tried tab browsing maybe?
i'll openly admit that OpenOffice has a way to go to catch up to MS Office (for one, OO could use the ability to import powerpoint slides from external documents), though it it great for smaller tasks. but,
i'll second that.
i'd drive a chevette to work (or better yet, public transport) to save back every dime to retire at 45 (maybe 40) on a white sandy beach!
yeah, i'd prefer to lovingly give over $98k to mostly some attorney gus driving their mercedes...
the thought alone makes standing at the counter of McD's selling hot crappy coffee and pieces parts burgers (term used very loosly) sound quite nice.
sorry, i thought the order on this was a little out of place, i ususally see them in this order for some reason?
* free Viagra
* your penis being enlarged
* FREE HOT XXX TEENS
* losing 500 pounds in two weeks
* an easy college diploma
* making money very quickly
if only all distributions made it this easy. if only gentoo weren't so damn wacked out to install. the 1.4 completely built (stage 3) iso's should be nice, but working of the stage 2 rc1 was quite a task in and of itself.
cli is good for work, X is more of a toy to play with after work.
ahh, the days of using magicwindows to switch terminals on the vt320. where's the fricking "do" key on these damn pc's? oh well, that one didn't "do" much anyway...
come on, national represenatives aren't responsible for your local potholes (unless you live right off I-80). that's local folks, most likely at the state level.
the majority of amerians don't now what the dmca is because it's not news worthy, people aren't dying over it, and there's nothing sexy about it. what it does do is infringe on first ammendment rights, but people really don't care about that these days as long as we've got our homeland security in place
i find it very disturbing that most officials are very quiet about this issue. they'll talk taxes, and homeland security left and right, but never really raise this issue. you don't bite the hand that feeds you.
i use e quite a bit these days also. i really like kde, but couldn't figure out how to drag a window to another virtual desktop. i know you can use their "send to" functionality, but it's not the same.
Imagine ads with "Steven" saying, "Dude, you're getting a dell, wanna roll your own? If not, I hear the Red Hat guy rolls a good one. :D"
i wouldn't argue that *nix can (and certainly is) ad good desktop OS, but i'm not so sure how popular it is. i guess it's what you define popular as. OS X is also a nitche market desktop operating system. I believe MS has about 95% desktop saturation right now, and I don't see that number changing as fast as Netscape Navigator's hold on the browser changed. i think it will take a huge revolution in the corporate world to get those numbers to change. the education market might change a little faster due to economic budget restraints, but the corporate world is where the big changes neds to happen.
If you need Oracle 9i and you need x86, there's Oracle for Linux I'm thinking Oracle ran a few performance tests of x86/Solaris/Oracle and x86/Linux/Oracle, then chose the platform that would give them the marketing numbers they need (and the performance their customers NEED). Originally Oracle/Linux was more a developer training tool, now it seems to be attempting ot compete with SQL Server. GO Oracle!
IIRC, version 5.2 was from Star Division, not Sun. If it was sun, it was released right after the acquisition from Star Division, thus under the Star Division license. StarOffice has always been, AFAIK, free for non-comercial use. The fact that it now costs a little lets those people who need the extras that OpenOffice doesn't offer get them at a REASONABLE price.
/. crowd, *nix isn't a popular desktop platform, and I wouldn't bet the farm that solaris is going to change that.
SUN gave a HUGE contribution to the open source community by opening up OpenOffice. Distributions can now install open office by default with out any license issues. Even hard core GPL distributions such as Debian can have it in their stable branch.
I really doubt that SUN is releasing their x86 version to gain desktop market. Contrary to the
There's a nitche market for users who like or want to learn solars to further develop their careers at places that spend huge money on SUN hardware. There's also 2-3 people who prefer it over other *nix variants but just can't get their hands on the hardware. I've got an ULTRA-5 sitting idle on my desk right now (and 3 in the next cube) because my P2-366 is easier to use. Should I need to prototype a web site in JSP, I guess it's available to save my laptop some ticks.
As far as opening their sources, I don't think it's the solaris sources they're talking about, but the compatibility test sutes. The bread and butter for sun is solaris, hardware and support. By them protecting the internals of solaris (the API is open), they're protecting their support revenue. If they open source solaris, that opens the flood gates for other companies to offer support for their hardware and software. I doubt we'll ever see that from SUN.
no, it's unlawfull entry. b&e requires something to be broken. if your doors aren't locked at all, it's unlawfull entry, not b&e
Release it on January 1st 2003 and call it Linux 2004.
:). it's a kernel not a distribution. RH GNU/Linux 2004 would be good (from a marketing perspective), but linux 2004? that's like ms renaming their kernel32.dll to windowsXPkernel32.dll. you know so when the message pops up that there's an error in windowsXPkernel32.dll, you really know what product you're using. then again, the marketing folks at ms probably see this message too and wouldn't want to give the user any more firepower.
so that's why the marketing folks always have to have a floor all on their own
in case you haven't heard, the java gui toolkits/class libraries/packages/whatever just aren't there. there has always been, and continues to be serious usability from the java gui kits. they're not horrible, but they're not the win32/kde/gnome applications that work and feel the same. until we get java as the desktop platform, it's not going to be the same.
i agree that a store can charge pretty much whatever the hell they want (you have to qualify that because i recall on 12 Sept 2001, many gas stations were selling for 4-5$ and upwords per gallon . fortunately :), our attorney general was around to save the day.
anyway, nearly anything that bestbuy sells "normally" for 60, joe's sells for 72$. joe doesn't have 100,000 sq. ft. of floor space that he can stock movies, dvd's, cd's, refridgerators, stereo equipment, etc. joe just sells computers, though he might repair them too. the advantage of going to joe's place is that for your extra 12$ you'll be pretty sure that when you ask joe if the printer can print under linux and if the color print cardridge is refillable (no microchip inside), joe will be able to give more than a "huh?!?, doh, i dunno."