Did they check for spoofed IP addresses? Because many of the China IP addresses have been blacked listed, so if they spoof it for a US address it might just up the score.
That sounds about right, but many of the patches get released in secret or something shows up the KB that alerts people to creat viruses. But I don't think there has been many exploits that Microsoft hasn't brought on them selves by releasing some document that states a work around or a problem.
So I sort of a agree with the statment from microsoft.
Just a reminder to anybody out there that is doing any kind of development for anything, don't even look at the code because if you do and you are caught, any of your work from this point on can be considered property of Microsoft. If you don't think this would happen look at IBM and SCO. And I doubt any of you have enough money to take on Microsoft, even the DOJ failed, so what chance do you have.
You all have to be the most stupidest mother f---ers on the face of the earth. I hope you don't actually do any development work because now after you have seen this code any development work that you do in the future can fall under stolen propriatary knowledge. Also don't think that/. doesn't keep at least your IP address with the post.
Oh yeah I totally understand that all these features existed before. Enums and Genericts game from (C++) foreach loops (VB). I don't know about implimenting another class library for a foreach loop, but you will definitly need a common interface so it knows how to access to the loop. I don't really understand the elegance statement, because personally I will find it alot easier to write.
enum Numbers { One, Two, Three }
than to write
final class Numbers {
static final One = 1;
static final Two = 2;
static final Three = 3; }
Personally I think the enumber implimentation is more elegant.
.Net in some cases already supports Java.
- Converter for Java to C#
- J#
- Displaying.NET Windows Forms from Java SWING
So I think the big question is when Sun is going to put something out that allows Java to support C# code. I agree only IBM can probably compete against Microsoft of this kind of work.
I don't want to start a flame war, but do you think that the pressure of.Net pushed some of these features through that Sun seemed to be holding off on for the longest time.
Such as enums, generics, boxing, foreach loop, etc.
Just a question that I have had, because I never heard anything about these features comming into Java until after.Net made it's comming out in 2002.
[the Commission] needs to carry out a series of consultations before finalising its verdict
In other words they need to find out exactly how much they can milk Microsoft for.
Just as I thought you were just making a blanket statement because you can't handle the facts. I did do a search engine search and they came up with just the results that I told you they would.
Even if what you said was true, which it isn't, Oil was still discovered and made into useful products in Pennsylvania, with out that discovery nobody would have ever went to the Middle East in search for oil. And thus, we wouldn't have any of the products I mentioned before. Remember that when you are typing on your PLASTIC keyborad, and looking at your monitor that has a PLASTIC casing.
Okay tell me how you think it happened? American comapanies went over there to help them setup and use many of their resources. Either way it was first found in Pennsylvania.
See the comment below I made about how Americans went over to the Middle East to setup the oil fields. Because with out those oil fields you wouldn't have your German engineered Cars or your German engineered Rockets. Sure they were able to take that oil and put it to applications, but with out the Americans stepping in and seeing the potential of this black liquid, the Germans wouldn't have anything.
Just think about that next time you are on a plane, driving your car, or even just using a peice of plastic.
So I bet you never have used anything that has come out of the US Defense Indsutry... huh? What about GPS? Also did I forget the mention all the products that now use Oil. American Industries when over to the middle east and setup all the oil fields and showed them how to harness that black gold. Which was the begining of all the rockets, cars, plastics, oils, and all other petrolemum based products. Europe may have better cars but with out the American influence BMW wouldn't even have started making rockets and then cars after WWII.
So MSDOS was the better alternative back then, should you fault Microsoft for putting in the capital to make it better than all the rest? I think not but that is what you want to do right now.
The backburner that I am talking about is the attitude that Europeans have that their civilization is so much better because it is older.
See you just listed a whole bunch of products but what about actually technology? Sure products come from all over the world, but where is the research comming from that has changed the world, it is not Europe.
What useful technology has come out of Europe in the last 100 years. Nothing. The telephone. No The internet. No The Unix OS. No The Windows OS. No TCP-IP. No The GUI. No The Aeroplane. No The lightbulb/Electrical Networks. No So where is the great Euro Innovation that everybody keeps talking about. All that Euro is gaining money off any more is selling their past, but charging people to come into Galleries.
Welcome to the dark ages Europe. If you think that your businesses can stand with out the Windows backbone, try it and see. You will find that your population hates having to have an expert setup their Linux Computers. And you will also find that people hate the over priced Mac OS.
Also many of you keep saying with out Microsoft there would be capitalism. Excuse me but did you miss a couple classes in your Macro-Econ classes. Because in the market, the consumer decides what they want, and the consumer has picked Microsoft. What you are proposing is as a qausi-Capitalism/Socialism and I guess that is the limited thinking that has kept Euro on the back burner all these years.
Microsoft didn't have anything to do with the creation of the internet or the GUI. But Microsoft is the one that made the internet popular and a home name that everybody knew. You guys are all trying to confuse the topic, granted Microsoft doesn't initially create much of what they sell or make popular, but it is because of their software THAT IT IS POPULAR. With out Windows you would still probably have only 10% of the world using it and none of this great technology we would see. Such as VOIP, MP3, Instant Messaging. We would all still be stuck in the world of Land Lines, Wave Files, and IRC. AOL put the internet to the masses back in 95 - 99, but with out Microsoft AOL wouldn't even have exisited.
So get off your high horse and come down and realize much of what you take granted for today is because of Microsoft. You wouldn't have your MP3 players, CD Burners, etc. Because no company wants to make these products for 10% of the population. And even if Mac did take over they had such a lock on their hardware that none of these products would have came along anyways.
Slashdot Mirror
Anybody know the location or a mirror with the non-sse version of hardened Gentoo? I can't seem to find a mirror anywhere.
Did they check for spoofed IP addresses? Because many of the China IP addresses have been blacked listed, so if they spoof it for a US address it might just up the score.
That sounds about right, but many of the patches get released in secret or something shows up the KB that alerts people to creat viruses. But I don't think there has been many exploits that Microsoft hasn't brought on them selves by releasing some document that states a work around or a problem.
So I sort of a agree with the statment from microsoft.
Gee this isn't biased: "Powerhouse software vendor Microsoft and the venerable Sendmail"
Big surprise Europe is trying to milk money out of a company that is doing good because it is falling short on cash.
Just a reminder to anybody out there that is doing any kind of development for anything, don't even look at the code because if you do and you are caught, any of your work from this point on can be considered property of Microsoft. If you don't think this would happen look at IBM and SCO. And I doubt any of you have enough money to take on Microsoft, even the DOJ failed, so what chance do you have.
You all have to be the most stupidest mother f---ers on the face of the earth. I hope you don't actually do any development work because now after you have seen this code any development work that you do in the future can fall under stolen propriatary knowledge. Also don't think that /. doesn't keep at least your IP address with the post.
Oh yeah I totally understand that all these features existed before. Enums and Genericts game from (C++) foreach loops (VB). I don't know about implimenting another class library for a foreach loop, but you will definitly need a common interface so it knows how to access to the loop. I don't really understand the elegance statement, because personally I will find it alot easier to write.
enum Numbers { One, Two, Three }
than to write
final class Numbers {
static final One = 1;
static final Two = 2;
static final Three = 3;
}
Personally I think the enumber implimentation is more elegant.
Sorry links disapeared:
- C# using Swing
- Java to C#
- J#
.Net in some cases already supports Java. .NET Windows Forms from Java SWING
- Converter for Java to C#
- J#
- Displaying
So I think the big question is when Sun is going to put something out that allows Java to support C# code. I agree only IBM can probably compete against Microsoft of this kind of work.
No I don't consider Java to be open source, but there are tons of open source projects that will benifit from these "enhancements"
Well it is good to know Microsoft did something to help the Open Source community even if it was through proxy :)
I don't want to start a flame war, but do you think that the pressure of .Net pushed some of these features through that Sun seemed to be holding off on for the longest time.
.Net made it's comming out in 2002.
Such as enums, generics, boxing, foreach loop, etc.
Just a question that I have had, because I never heard anything about these features comming into Java until after
[the Commission] needs to carry out a series of consultations before finalising its verdict
In other words they need to find out exactly how much they can milk Microsoft for.
Yeah I totally agree it is the same reason they have started advancing the language so quickly recently. Generics, Boxing, foreach, etc.
I can't see how that has to do with anything, there is probably 5 billion people that haven't been to the middle east.
Just as I thought you were just making a blanket statement because you can't handle the facts. I did do a search engine search and they came up with just the results that I told you they would.
Even if what you said was true, which it isn't, Oil was still discovered and made into useful products in Pennsylvania, with out that discovery nobody would have ever went to the Middle East in search for oil. And thus, we wouldn't have any of the products I mentioned before. Remember that when you are typing on your PLASTIC keyborad, and looking at your monitor that has a PLASTIC casing.
But you are now boaring me. So peace.
Okay tell me how you think it happened? American comapanies went over there to help them setup and use many of their resources. Either way it was first found in Pennsylvania.
See the comment below I made about how Americans went over to the Middle East to setup the oil fields. Because with out those oil fields you wouldn't have your German engineered Cars or your German engineered Rockets. Sure they were able to take that oil and put it to applications, but with out the Americans stepping in and seeing the potential of this black liquid, the Germans wouldn't have anything.
Just think about that next time you are on a plane, driving your car, or even just using a peice of plastic.
So I bet you never have used anything that has come out of the US Defense Indsutry ... huh? What about GPS? Also did I forget the mention all the products that now use Oil. American Industries when over to the middle east and setup all the oil fields and showed them how to harness that black gold. Which was the begining of all the rockets, cars, plastics, oils, and all other petrolemum based products. Europe may have better cars but with out the American influence BMW wouldn't even have started making rockets and then cars after WWII.
So MSDOS was the better alternative back then, should you fault Microsoft for putting in the capital to make it better than all the rest? I think not but that is what you want to do right now.
The backburner that I am talking about is the attitude that Europeans have that their civilization is so much better because it is older.
See you just listed a whole bunch of products but what about actually technology? Sure products come from all over the world, but where is the research comming from that has changed the world, it is not Europe.
Linux was based off Unix and Nokia's are pieces of crap cell phones. Come on can't you do any better than that?
What useful technology has come out of Europe in the last 100 years. Nothing. The telephone. No The internet. No The Unix OS. No The Windows OS. No TCP-IP. No The GUI. No The Aeroplane. No The lightbulb/Electrical Networks. No So where is the great Euro Innovation that everybody keeps talking about. All that Euro is gaining money off any more is selling their past, but charging people to come into Galleries.
Welcome to the dark ages Europe. If you think that your businesses can stand with out the Windows backbone, try it and see. You will find that your population hates having to have an expert setup their Linux Computers. And you will also find that people hate the over priced Mac OS.
Also many of you keep saying with out Microsoft there would be capitalism. Excuse me but did you miss a couple classes in your Macro-Econ classes. Because in the market, the consumer decides what they want, and the consumer has picked Microsoft. What you are proposing is as a qausi-Capitalism/Socialism and I guess that is the limited thinking that has kept Euro on the back burner all these years.
This is exactly what I am saying.
Microsoft didn't have anything to do with the creation of the internet or the GUI. But Microsoft is the one that made the internet popular and a home name that everybody knew. You guys are all trying to confuse the topic, granted Microsoft doesn't initially create much of what they sell or make popular, but it is because of their software THAT IT IS POPULAR. With out Windows you would still probably have only 10% of the world using it and none of this great technology we would see. Such as VOIP, MP3, Instant Messaging. We would all still be stuck in the world of Land Lines, Wave Files, and IRC. AOL put the internet to the masses back in 95 - 99, but with out Microsoft AOL wouldn't even have exisited.
So get off your high horse and come down and realize much of what you take granted for today is because of Microsoft. You wouldn't have your MP3 players, CD Burners, etc. Because no company wants to make these products for 10% of the population. And even if Mac did take over they had such a lock on their hardware that none of these products would have came along anyways.