> Java runs on far more platforms than just Windows and OS X. If Microsoft ports Minecraft away from Java, what are they chances that they support those platforms?
Depends on what you mean by "run". Does it mean "runs well"? "Runs fast"? "Runs, but only on one very specific version of Java?" It's not the 1990s any more. Java's cross-platform capabilities are not the advantage they used to be.
I mean runs sufficiently to play Minecraft. It does so on many distributions of Linux out-of-the-box. That's more than just Windows and OS X. Java runs to other degrees on other platforms as well, but for the topic at hand (Minecraft's future), Linux distributions are what I'm referring to here.
Thinking about our place in the universe is a religious activity
No, it's not. Thinking about our place in the universe is a philosophical activity. There is no need for an organization to think about these things. One can do so on one's own.
On that basis you could argue that a formula 1 racecar would be a good car to do the weekly shopping in, just because it has a steering wheel, an engine, and 4 wheels, just like every other car.
There's a difference between "racecar" (a word connoting a car with a specific purpose: racing) and "car" (a word connoting a general concept with a steering wheel, an engine, and 4 wheels). The word "laptop" is generic (like "car"). Your definition of "laptop" (a portable machine with a price point under X per performance Y running Microsoft Windows): that's much more specific than the general usage of "laptop", more akin to "racecar".
When you want to, when you have cleared some space and you're ready. Just like you should be able to choose when to download anything, and how to use your disk drive space.
I recommend turning the option to download all music back to it's default setting: OFF. That way you can have control over the music downloads just like you have control over patches.
Of course I know what a macBook is. Thanks to it being waaay overpriced and having relatively dismal hardware specs, and also being locked into a proprietary Apple universe, I practically don't even consider it a laptop at all, let alone anything I would actually want to give money for.
Language is funny in that it's a shared method of communicating. If you want to redefine laptop to mean "laptop with a utility to price ratio over X" (however you measure utility) then you should probably say that as when you say "you can't buy a laptop without it", it's quite misleading to most readers that don't share that view.
But why shouldn't Microsoft adopt those things? Apple has shown that they work. And Microsoft wanted to create a different environment than the other stores selling their products are offering.
Exactly! I don't disagree. The thread then devolved by a misunderstanding by AC "Because selling software in an online market place is clearly all invented by Apple". The entire topic has been retail stores, not online App Stores. Then ormico chimed in with "Because Apple invented selling products in physical stores?"
Ormico: they did not invent it but they did improve it. Revenue per square meter is a good metric of that. It makes sense to study what it is that they did to achieve that and have other business learn from it.
Last I knew, Microsoft was still the second largest developer of software for Mac (after Apple, of course). There's always hope in that direction *if* there's a market for it.
Java runs on far more platforms than just Windows and OS X. If Microsoft ports Minecraft away from Java, what are they chances that they support those platforms?
I don't doubt you, I just never inspected or read about their buildings enough to know this. Steel is a pretty prevalent building material and I made an assumption. I'm not surprised, given Jobs's attention to detail, though.
Because Apple invented selling products in physical stores?
No, but if you've ever been inside a Microsoft Store you'll understand the original poster's point. They *do* feel very creepily similar to the Apple stores in layout, look and feel. No other store (other than those two) I've been in has the same feel. BestBuys feel different. So do Fry's. So do AT&T store. Pretty much any other store one might go into and buy a device that has a battery or plugs into a wall.
windows stands or well I'm not doing office work suckers.
The first sentences of your comment were painful to read, but after several passes I understood you. The last sentence--quoted above--has stumped me even after several attempts to parse it. I gather you feel we are suckers and you do not do office work, but Windows stands or well? Could you please rephrase?
You have some large machines with your five-foot touch-only device and twenty-seven-foot desktop with Metro. Also, didn't Microsoft rename Metro as Modern-Style User Interface?
What's a watch and why would I want one? I mean, why do I need to wear something on my wrist when I have a perfectly good smartphone fully loaded with every application I want? I can browse the web, read books, do all sorts of things.
In many social situations (perhaps you don't often find yourself in these sorts of situations) it is more acceptable to glance at your wrist than to pull out a phone and start fiddling with it. For example, a business meeting, a dinner party or the symphony.
In many sporting situations (perhaps you don't often find yourself in these sorts of situations) it is more convenient to glance at your wrist than to break rhythm to pull out a phone and start fiddling with it. For example, while running, playing tennis or rowing.
I see a few issues here for smart watch makers.
First, people who understand the above situations already have at least one watch. Getting those people to give up something they already know and have probably grown fond of over many years--perhaps decades--for something new, unproven and requiring a battery will be difficult. With the personalization that Apple is targeting they seem to understand and are attempting to address at least one major hurdle: style. How well, we will see.
Second, current watches are either purely mechanical or sip from a tiny battery that lasts years. We can ballpark from physical size and capabilities that an Apple Watch will require frequent charging. If Apple has made a breakthrough of some sort, they were conspicuously mum about it yesterday. People enjoying watches today will have to adjust their long-learned expectations, even if they do get more features from their new energy-hungry watches. How well, we will see.
That leaves us with the current watch-less people such as yourself. Today, they don't find any of my above situations relevant--or they would be wearing a watch. For them, digging out a phone from a pocket might be more compelling than buying a new device they're not accustomed to. Perhaps the new features such as biometrics will sway them to buy a new device. How well, we will see.
An SD slot solves the storage issue but not the battery issue or the optics issue. Most people that need to record video at length have the planning to find a better device. While an SD slot has a lot of advantages, even a slight one on video shooting, it will not turn a phone into an excellent video recorder until we solve the optics problems in a small form factor.
There are various purposes for various tools. A phone (Apple or otherwise) is not going to replace a proper camera for recording in situations in which you know you need massive storage, massive battery life or professional optics. You likely will also need good lighting and sound, but that's going beyond a camera now. What a phone does do well in, are situations where you had not planned on taking video. A camera you can carry everywhere that's good enough for many applications is the major use case and why dedicated photography and videography equipment is relegated more and more to situations that warrant it.
When my toddler is going to take his or her first steps, I might not be ready with a full recording setup, but I will have a phone at hand, for example.
If I am planning on recording my teenagers graduation, I will bring dedicated equipment that can record for hours at better resolution, for example.
Clearly the iPhone will not replace a camcorder, but it will serve as a suitable replacement for a camcorder in many situations. The market trends seem to support this view.
I would sooner give my money to amazon than be part of the goog puppet master experiment.
My impression, it being an Android device, is that if you give your money to Amazon you still become part of the GOOG ecosystem with all that entails. Am I wrong?
Yes and if you read further you would have got my point:
The seven-continent model is usually taught in China, India, parts of Western Europe and most English-speaking countries, including Australia and England
The six-continent combined-Eurasia model is preferred by the geographic community[citation needed], Russia, Eastern Europe, and Japan.
The six-continent combined-America model is used in Spanish-speaking countries and in some parts of Europe including Greece (equivalent 5 inhabited continents model – i.e. excluding Antarctica – still also found in texts)
So, we can conclude that China, India, Parts of Western Europe, the USA, Australia, England, Canada, South America and Everything south of the US in North America don't use a Eurasia model. Russia, Eastern Europe, and Japan do.
My math is a bit fuzzy but that first list seems longer to me. Hence, most people do not include Russia as part of Europe.
Even in the seven continent model, Russia is part of Europe was my point. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.
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> Java runs on far more platforms than just Windows and OS X. If Microsoft ports Minecraft away from Java, what are they chances that they support those platforms?
Depends on what you mean by "run". Does it mean "runs well"? "Runs fast"? "Runs, but only on one very specific version of Java?" It's not the 1990s any more. Java's cross-platform capabilities are not the advantage they used to be.
I mean runs sufficiently to play Minecraft. It does so on many distributions of Linux out-of-the-box. That's more than just Windows and OS X. Java runs to other degrees on other platforms as well, but for the topic at hand (Minecraft's future), Linux distributions are what I'm referring to here.
Companies are supposed to cut unnecessary costs to be as competitive as possible.
A company without competitors need not be competitive.
Thinking about our place in the universe is a religious activity
No, it's not. Thinking about our place in the universe is a philosophical activity. There is no need for an organization to think about these things. One can do so on one's own.
On that basis you could argue that a formula 1 racecar would be a good car to do the weekly shopping in, just because it has a steering wheel, an engine, and 4 wheels, just like every other car.
There's a difference between "racecar" (a word connoting a car with a specific purpose: racing) and "car" (a word connoting a general concept with a steering wheel, an engine, and 4 wheels). The word "laptop" is generic (like "car"). Your definition of "laptop" (a portable machine with a price point under X per performance Y running Microsoft Windows): that's much more specific than the general usage of "laptop", more akin to "racecar".
> how can you download software patches
When you want to, when you have cleared some space and you're ready. Just like you should be able to choose when to download anything, and how to use your disk drive space.
I recommend turning the option to download all music back to it's default setting: OFF. That way you can have control over the music downloads just like you have control over patches.
Of course I know what a macBook is. Thanks to it being waaay overpriced and having relatively dismal hardware specs, and also being locked into a proprietary Apple universe, I practically don't even consider it a laptop at all, let alone anything I would actually want to give money for.
Language is funny in that it's a shared method of communicating. If you want to redefine laptop to mean "laptop with a utility to price ratio over X" (however you measure utility) then you should probably say that as when you say "you can't buy a laptop without it", it's quite misleading to most readers that don't share that view.
But why shouldn't Microsoft adopt those things? Apple has shown that they work. And Microsoft wanted to create a different environment than the other stores selling their products are offering.
Exactly! I don't disagree. The thread then devolved by a misunderstanding by AC "Because selling software in an online market place is clearly all invented by Apple". The entire topic has been retail stores, not online App Stores. Then ormico chimed in with "Because Apple invented selling products in physical stores?"
Ormico: they did not invent it but they did improve it. Revenue per square meter is a good metric of that. It makes sense to study what it is that they did to achieve that and have other business learn from it.
Last I knew, Microsoft was still the second largest developer of software for Mac (after Apple, of course). There's always hope in that direction *if* there's a market for it.
Java runs on far more platforms than just Windows and OS X. If Microsoft ports Minecraft away from Java, what are they chances that they support those platforms?
I don't doubt you, I just never inspected or read about their buildings enough to know this. Steel is a pretty prevalent building material and I made an assumption. I'm not surprised, given Jobs's attention to detail, though.
Because Apple invented selling products in physical stores?
No, but if you've ever been inside a Microsoft Store you'll understand the original poster's point. They *do* feel very creepily similar to the Apple stores in layout, look and feel. No other store (other than those two) I've been in has the same feel. BestBuys feel different. So do Fry's. So do AT&T store. Pretty much any other store one might go into and buy a device that has a battery or plugs into a wall.
the only reason we use Windows at all is because you can't buy a laptop without it
I'm sorry. What?! What OS do you think MacBooks run? It's not Windows!
or = for
Therefore:
Well I'm Not Doing Office Work Suckers = WINDOWS
Ah! Thank you. That's cute but silly.
apple uses aluminum and granite, not steel. or as the friends across the pond say, aluminium and granite.
If that is the case, then I stand corrected. The OP was referring to Apple's glass-and-aluminum stores.
windows stands or well I'm not doing office work suckers.
The first sentences of your comment were painful to read, but after several passes I understood you. The last sentence--quoted above--has stumped me even after several attempts to parse it. I gather you feel we are suckers and you do not do office work, but Windows stands or well? Could you please rephrase?
You have some large machines with your five-foot touch-only device and twenty-seven-foot desktop with Metro. Also, didn't Microsoft rename Metro as Modern-Style User Interface?
Because selling software in an online market place is clearly all invented by Apple
It wasn't, but I'm pretty sure that point is irrelevant as the OP meant the glass-and-steel Apple stores.
What's a watch and why would I want one? I mean, why do I need to wear something on my wrist when I have a perfectly good smartphone fully loaded with every application I want? I can browse the web, read books, do all sorts of things.
In many social situations (perhaps you don't often find yourself in these sorts of situations) it is more acceptable to glance at your wrist than to pull out a phone and start fiddling with it. For example, a business meeting, a dinner party or the symphony.
In many sporting situations (perhaps you don't often find yourself in these sorts of situations) it is more convenient to glance at your wrist than to break rhythm to pull out a phone and start fiddling with it. For example, while running, playing tennis or rowing.
I see a few issues here for smart watch makers.
First, people who understand the above situations already have at least one watch. Getting those people to give up something they already know and have probably grown fond of over many years--perhaps decades--for something new, unproven and requiring a battery will be difficult. With the personalization that Apple is targeting they seem to understand and are attempting to address at least one major hurdle: style. How well, we will see.
Second, current watches are either purely mechanical or sip from a tiny battery that lasts years. We can ballpark from physical size and capabilities that an Apple Watch will require frequent charging. If Apple has made a breakthrough of some sort, they were conspicuously mum about it yesterday. People enjoying watches today will have to adjust their long-learned expectations, even if they do get more features from their new energy-hungry watches. How well, we will see.
That leaves us with the current watch-less people such as yourself. Today, they don't find any of my above situations relevant--or they would be wearing a watch. For them, digging out a phone from a pocket might be more compelling than buying a new device they're not accustomed to. Perhaps the new features such as biometrics will sway them to buy a new device. How well, we will see.
An SD slot solves the storage issue but not the battery issue or the optics issue. Most people that need to record video at length have the planning to find a better device. While an SD slot has a lot of advantages, even a slight one on video shooting, it will not turn a phone into an excellent video recorder until we solve the optics problems in a small form factor.
behind other phones n the market. Like it always has
They were not behind in 2007, therefore they have not *always* been behind.
I see. So, no Google Now support, no Gmail support, and no Google search support without modifications?
There are various purposes for various tools. A phone (Apple or otherwise) is not going to replace a proper camera for recording in situations in which you know you need massive storage, massive battery life or professional optics. You likely will also need good lighting and sound, but that's going beyond a camera now. What a phone does do well in, are situations where you had not planned on taking video. A camera you can carry everywhere that's good enough for many applications is the major use case and why dedicated photography and videography equipment is relegated more and more to situations that warrant it.
When my toddler is going to take his or her first steps, I might not be ready with a full recording setup, but I will have a phone at hand, for example.
If I am planning on recording my teenagers graduation, I will bring dedicated equipment that can record for hours at better resolution, for example.
Clearly the iPhone will not replace a camcorder, but it will serve as a suitable replacement for a camcorder in many situations. The market trends seem to support this view.
I would sooner give my money to amazon than be part of the goog puppet master experiment.
My impression, it being an Android device, is that if you give your money to Amazon you still become part of the GOOG ecosystem with all that entails. Am I wrong?
So they need 35,000 more employees to review the footage of 35,000 cameras?
Or a small number of IT-types, some hardware and some software.
And what if these were the last two specimens ?
Then we won't find any more specimens.
Yes and if you read further you would have got my point:
The seven-continent model is usually taught in China, India, parts of Western Europe and most English-speaking countries, including Australia and England
The six-continent combined-Eurasia model is preferred by the geographic community[citation needed], Russia, Eastern Europe, and Japan.
The six-continent combined-America model is used in Spanish-speaking countries and in some parts of Europe including Greece (equivalent 5 inhabited continents model – i.e. excluding Antarctica – still also found in texts)
So, we can conclude that China, India, Parts of Western Europe, the USA, Australia, England, Canada, South America and Everything south of the US in North America don't use a Eurasia model. Russia, Eastern Europe, and Japan do.
My math is a bit fuzzy but that first list seems longer to me. Hence, most people do not include Russia as part of Europe.
Even in the seven continent model, Russia is part of Europe was my point. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.