Just to clarify, I meant being "phased out" as in "not considered for new powerplants". No one in their right mind is building new nuclear plants in Europe now. But I do share you viewpoint that this will only last for as long as people still remember Fukushima, i.e. 2-3 years max.
This sort of system *is* coming though because almost 100% of people are going to switch to electric cars - no more gas revenue.
Surely you jest? We are a very, very long way from even 10% of people switching to electric cars. The main obstacle will be twofold:
1) We don't have nearly enough powerplants. As nuclear is being phased out after Fukushima, natural gas and coal are the main options for new powerplants. There goes your environmental argument.
2) The electricity grid has nowhere near the capacity needed. You would have to dig up all the local roads everywhere and lay new power mains, and you would have to upgrade many of the large power lines and distribution stations as well.
Net social-economic impact: negative a few hundred billion dollars, and more CO2 produced.
(Sorry for the late reply, my google-fu failed me on the last attempt to answer your question.) It turns out that the law mandates that either the importer or the producer of the product covers the cost. In practice, the way this is done, all the producers and importers have established a non-profit organisation together, and it handles the actual recycling. The producers then pay this organisation according to how many of their products have been recycled. As a consumer, you can either deliver your old product to a store selling similar equipment, or to dedicated delivery points located around the country.
I don't get it. In my country, any store selling electronics is required by law to accept old electronics of the same type
for recycling, free of charge, regardless of whether it was sold at that store or not. Isn't this a common practice?
It's a shame, really. My wife's 4 year old Nokia E65 is still doing its thing, with an OK web browser, wifi etc., and the battery life is roughly 5x what my LG Optimus gets. Nokia used to make some great kit if you weren't the type that had to have "Apps" that were just repackaging of websites or farting noises.
Well, for the first trick, just do what firemen do. Wear a vest containing phase-changing gel underneath a thick layer of insulation. It only works for 3-5 hours at a time in hot conditions, but that's not too bad.
Also, always keep your left hand in your pocket. That way you avoid accidentally grounding yourself (with the current most likely going across your heart).
Actually, here in Europe where we have 230V, car manufacturers are already talking about going to 400V (which is what the street level transformer boxes feed off.)
Here in Norway, our apartment has just had a new fancy digital meter installed, so we can get variable rates. We are early adopters, but now it looks like everyone will have to switch to variable rate during the next five years.
Huh, you can't even get unlocked smartphones on the internet? Talk about "free market benefits"...
Where I live (Trondheim), the local university is even running a pilot study with free wifi access covering most of downtown.
But the real question is: would you have come up with a less lame excuse for building a realistic robot in your own image (using the university's money and labs) ?
So, your general point in this discussion is that iphones sell because of superior user experience, and others don't because they are made of cheap plastic? Sure, sounds coherent...
Actually, hardware pundits are mostly saying that the A5 makes too much heat and has too big a die to fit in the iphone form factor. As the A4 is still pretty snappy, I don't see Steve sacrificing design for performance quite yet. Also, a screen upgrade would be pointless, the screen would touch your nose before it is close enough for you to see the improvement.
Actually, you don't need a data plan, we've invented this new great thing called "WiFi". I've been using my Android smartphone for about a year now without a data plan, just paying for texts and voice.
Well, a "proof by counterexample" does not require the new statement to hold for all (or many) cases, just a single unique one, and that one can be as special and contrived as you want it to. See e.g. the counterproof to what we think was Fermat's proof of his last theorem, which relies on the highly technical fact that beyond 17 you don't have Unique Factorization Domains anymore (an idea that didn't even exist at Fermat's time).
Hi there. I live in Norway, which is a democracy where we've had a strong government and mostly no capitalism (what you would call socialism) for the last century. We have the highest standard of living in the world and a "Savings account" of more than 100% GDP. Contrast this with America's "Debt" of above 100% GDP. So I guess we can conclude that your claim, "Democracy requires capitalism", is patently false.
When are we just gonna call it quits with the version crap, and go with the rolling release model? OpenSuse is already moving in that direction with Tumbleweed, others will soon follow I hope. My Archlinux box hasn't been reinstalled since Firefox 3 was brand new, and that box is still rock solid and on the bleeding edge. At this point I suspect Ubuntu is doing it just because Mark Shuttleworth has a fetish for wordplay.
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Ahhh. This. Please, mod this up, and try to cancel some of the noise earlier in the thread with some genuinely good posts.
Try again when Chrome finally has a useable Vim mode. Pentadactyl for Firefox rocks hard, while Vimium is just useless.
Just to clarify, I meant being "phased out" as in "not considered for new powerplants". No one in their right mind is building new nuclear plants in Europe now. But I do share you viewpoint that this will only last for as long as people still remember Fukushima, i.e. 2-3 years max.
This sort of system *is* coming though because almost 100% of people are going to switch to electric cars - no more gas revenue.
Surely you jest? We are a very, very long way from even 10% of people switching to electric cars. The main obstacle will be twofold:
1) We don't have nearly enough powerplants. As nuclear is being phased out after Fukushima, natural gas and coal are the main options for new powerplants. There goes your environmental argument.
2) The electricity grid has nowhere near the capacity needed. You would have to dig up all the local roads everywhere and lay new power mains, and you would have to upgrade many of the large power lines and distribution stations as well.
Net social-economic impact: negative a few hundred billion dollars, and more CO2 produced.
(Sorry for the late reply, my google-fu failed me on the last attempt to answer your question.) It turns out that the law mandates that either the importer or the producer of the product covers the cost. In practice, the way this is done, all the producers and importers have established a non-profit organisation together, and it handles the actual recycling. The producers then pay this organisation according to how many of their products have been recycled. As a consumer, you can either deliver your old product to a store selling similar equipment, or to dedicated delivery points located around the country.
I don't get it. In my country, any store selling electronics is required by law to accept old electronics of the same type for recycling, free of charge, regardless of whether it was sold at that store or not. Isn't this a common practice?
It's a shame, really. My wife's 4 year old Nokia E65 is still doing its thing, with an OK web browser, wifi etc., and the battery life is roughly 5x what my LG Optimus gets. Nokia used to make some great kit if you weren't the type that had to have "Apps" that were just repackaging of websites or farting noises.
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Ehrm, what part of "preliminary injunction" is it that you don't understand?
Well, for the first trick, just do what firemen do. Wear a vest containing phase-changing gel underneath a thick layer of insulation. It only works for 3-5 hours at a time in hot conditions, but that's not too bad.
To be fair, Voldemort created the name himself, so it kinda makes sense that it should sound evil, he'd want that. Tom Riddle isn't really "evil".
Also, always keep your left hand in your pocket. That way you avoid accidentally grounding yourself (with the current most likely going across your heart).
Actually, here in Europe where we have 230V, car manufacturers are already talking about going to 400V (which is what the street level transformer boxes feed off.)
Here in Norway, our apartment has just had a new fancy digital meter installed, so we can get variable rates. We are early adopters, but now it looks like everyone will have to switch to variable rate during the next five years.
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Huh, you can't even get unlocked smartphones on the internet? Talk about "free market benefits"... Where I live (Trondheim), the local university is even running a pilot study with free wifi access covering most of downtown.
But the real question is: would you have come up with a less lame excuse for building a realistic robot in your own image (using the university's money and labs) ?
So, your general point in this discussion is that iphones sell because of superior user experience, and others don't because they are made of cheap plastic? Sure, sounds coherent...
Actually, hardware pundits are mostly saying that the A5 makes too much heat and has too big a die to fit in the iphone form factor. As the A4 is still pretty snappy, I don't see Steve sacrificing design for performance quite yet. Also, a screen upgrade would be pointless, the screen would touch your nose before it is close enough for you to see the improvement.
Actually, you don't need a data plan, we've invented this new great thing called "WiFi". I've been using my Android smartphone for about a year now without a data plan, just paying for texts and voice.
Well, that's one thing. Borrowing money so you can go to war halfway across the globe is another.
Actually, we've moved past blu-ray, it's called "the internets". Welcome to it.
Well, a "proof by counterexample" does not require the new statement to hold for all (or many) cases, just a single unique one, and that one can be as special and contrived as you want it to. See e.g. the counterproof to what we think was Fermat's proof of his last theorem, which relies on the highly technical fact that beyond 17 you don't have Unique Factorization Domains anymore (an idea that didn't even exist at Fermat's time).
Hi there. I live in Norway, which is a democracy where we've had a strong government and mostly no capitalism (what you would call socialism) for the last century. We have the highest standard of living in the world and a "Savings account" of more than 100% GDP. Contrast this with America's "Debt" of above 100% GDP. So I guess we can conclude that your claim, "Democracy requires capitalism", is patently false.
When are we just gonna call it quits with the version crap, and go with the rolling release model? OpenSuse is already moving in that direction with Tumbleweed, others will soon follow I hope. My Archlinux box hasn't been reinstalled since Firefox 3 was brand new, and that box is still rock solid and on the bleeding edge. At this point I suspect Ubuntu is doing it just because Mark Shuttleworth has a fetish for wordplay.
What? Are you saying now that I've finally polished my mutt setup, I'm not going to want to use it? :(