Point taken,
However, American is NOT a democracy, its a Republic. And our representatives increasing follow the directions of the lobbies and "Focus Groups" and not the public. Of course I will fight any attempt to pass this kind of legislation. But, if the battle is lost, I will leave. Because in the end freedom of the individual is the most important thing. That was the principal American was founded on in the first place.
Yeah!! And you could met the clone of yourself several years down the road! And then lose a job to him, because he was cloned with the "Lazy" gene removed! Isn't that exciting?
And someone in the government could program a virus just to kill you! Or a terrorist could use the info to wipe out your entire family tree!!
Look at the history:
Score:
Chemical Weapons 2
Human Race 0
Nuclear Weapons 2
Human Race 0
Genetic Engineering ?
Human Race ?
Nanomachines Run Amok ?
Human Race ?
Taiwan, believe it or not you almost pay no taxes there and nobody bothers you. Its almost like Hong-Kong used to be before the middle-kingdom ( China ) took it back. Then when the mainland takes Taiwan, I'll move again!!!
This is one step closer to Big Brother. This is all we need, more control and monitoring of our personal and private lives by the government. This is just a step away from government mandated drug testing, government control of health care, and the ability for the government to track anywhere you have been from your DNA signature, and other losses of Privacy and Freedom. If the governement wants my DNA, I'm moving to another country where my privacy is respected. Doesn't anyone else see this as a danger to our privacy and freedom as I do???
1. Congress and the Senate Don't have to have a handle on software development, like you said they get allot from the software industry. Who do you think is pushing them to do this and probably telling them to subdue foreign software industry.
2. 80% of the US programmers I have worked with aren't any good either, but they can code. And taking half the people that can code from a labor pool, whether they are good or not still impacts an economy greatly.
Maybe I am wrong and this is not one of the intended reasons for software companies pushing H1B. BUT IT IS HAVING AN AFFECT Overseas. I have seen it in person. There is actually a counter effect where I went overseas 6 times in 2 years to work on projects because they could not find ANYBODY qualified to do them. They are all in the US! Do you know how much a 6 month hotel bill is??? Thats what the company had to pay for one of my stays. They definately would not have paid that if they could have found someone else to do the job.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm happy to have a job at least. It seems some Americans are being impacted by this stuff more than I am.
Allot of people immediately assume H1B is about cheap labor. Sometimes this is the case, sometimes its not. But the real economic reason I believe is more subtle. I think the reason the house/senate is so eager about the H1B program is less to do about the tech shortage and more to do about keeping the US software industry at the top of the world. Think about it. H1B attracts a large portion of the programmers/designers/engineers from developing countries and puts them in the US. This makes it almost impossible for anyone in a developing nation to develop good software, because their best people go to the US. I am a US citizen but I saw this first hand when I worked on a project in a developing nation. We could hardly find anyone with UNIX/C/C++ experience. When we did find someone, they always quit within a month or 2 when they got an H1B. I had to work with 5 different programmers in a year, because they all kept quitting! I think the house/senate is doing this to retard the grow of overseas software industy and I know the tech companies lobbying for more H1B's realize this as well.
MSND doc may be useful, but don't you stll have to buy the CD from Microsoft? I prefer the way Java is documented. I just point my browser to Sun's website and go. As for C++ on UNIX, all I need is 3 books:
C Referance Manual - K & R
C++ Referance Manual - Stroustrup
Unix Network Programming - Stevens
And I can program on ANY UNIX system ANYWHERE
But it all goes back to Microsoft's attempt to shut everybody out of Windows. Just like they did to J++, they have made the MFC and Visual C++ GUI classes so tied to Windows, its almost impossible to "digest" the code without 2 or 3 MFC and Windows API manuals. Thats why I have been programming C++ on UNIX for 5 years, and haven't written a line of Visual C++. I looked at doing a project in Visual C++ once, and soon decided that rather than waste 2 years of my life learning Windows API and MFC, I would just right the GUI portion in JAVA and do the back-end stuff in ANSI C++ on a UNIX. Got it done in a couple months.:)
Too bad the gaming industry can't come up with a standard, portable library tool-kit that they share and use for mutiple platforms. They would learn allot from taking an open-source approach. However, most of them guard their tools and programming methods so jealously, this would never happen.
Maybe there is an alternate universe where there is such a thing.;)
They probably want to control the licensing of OS in the Server, so customers buying Cobolt Servers will be forced to pay SUN for upgrades. So I guess this is good news if you own SUN stock, but bad news if you plan on buying a Cobolt server.
Hmmmm, Opera has been around for a while. Since before the time Mozilla was open source. And if you looked at it, you would see the style and navigation is totally different than Mozilla, OR IE. Seems like you are just trying to spread some FUD. I'll take my burger medium-well, without FUD, please....:)
Yes, but if you have to carry the keyboard with your cellphone, you lose the advantage of having 1 small object to carry. Then you might as well have a PDA or Laptop with a wireless WAP modem.
I don't think it will be popular, because cell-phones have lousy key-pads, instead of keyboards. How are you supposed to type: "Cast Freeze" in less than 5 seconds when a Troll is bashing you? Or imagine how long it would take to type: "Look at old Tome on 2nd Shelf". I just remember playing Zork II and Zork III, and how much typing you have to do. I can't imagine typing on cell-phone.
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Point taken, However, American is NOT a democracy, its a Republic. And our representatives increasing follow the directions of the lobbies and "Focus Groups" and not the public. Of course I will fight any attempt to pass this kind of legislation. But, if the battle is lost, I will leave. Because in the end freedom of the individual is the most important thing. That was the principal American was founded on in the first place.
Yeah!! And you could met the clone of yourself several years down the road! And then lose a job to him, because he was cloned with the "Lazy" gene removed! Isn't that exciting? And someone in the government could program a virus just to kill you! Or a terrorist could use the info to wipe out your entire family tree!! Look at the history: Score: Chemical Weapons 2 Human Race 0 Nuclear Weapons 2 Human Race 0 Genetic Engineering ? Human Race ? Nanomachines Run Amok ? Human Race ?
Taiwan, believe it or not you almost pay no taxes there and nobody bothers you. Its almost like Hong-Kong used to be before the middle-kingdom ( China ) took it back. Then when the mainland takes Taiwan, I'll move again!!!
This is one step closer to Big Brother. This is all we need, more control and monitoring of our personal and private lives by the government. This is just a step away from government mandated drug testing, government control of health care, and the ability for the government to track anywhere you have been from your DNA signature, and other losses of Privacy and Freedom. If the governement wants my DNA, I'm moving to another country where my privacy is respected. Doesn't anyone else see this as a danger to our privacy and freedom as I do???
1. Congress and the Senate Don't have to have a handle on software development, like you said they get allot from the software industry. Who do you think is pushing them to do this and probably telling them to subdue foreign software industry. 2. 80% of the US programmers I have worked with aren't any good either, but they can code. And taking half the people that can code from a labor pool, whether they are good or not still impacts an economy greatly. Maybe I am wrong and this is not one of the intended reasons for software companies pushing H1B. BUT IT IS HAVING AN AFFECT Overseas. I have seen it in person. There is actually a counter effect where I went overseas 6 times in 2 years to work on projects because they could not find ANYBODY qualified to do them. They are all in the US! Do you know how much a 6 month hotel bill is??? Thats what the company had to pay for one of my stays. They definately would not have paid that if they could have found someone else to do the job. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm happy to have a job at least. It seems some Americans are being impacted by this stuff more than I am.
Allot of people immediately assume H1B is about cheap labor. Sometimes this is the case, sometimes its not. But the real economic reason I believe is more subtle. I think the reason the house/senate is so eager about the H1B program is less to do about the tech shortage and more to do about keeping the US software industry at the top of the world. Think about it. H1B attracts a large portion of the programmers/designers/engineers from developing countries and puts them in the US. This makes it almost impossible for anyone in a developing nation to develop good software, because their best people go to the US. I am a US citizen but I saw this first hand when I worked on a project in a developing nation. We could hardly find anyone with UNIX/C/C++ experience. When we did find someone, they always quit within a month or 2 when they got an H1B. I had to work with 5 different programmers in a year, because they all kept quitting! I think the house/senate is doing this to retard the grow of overseas software industy and I know the tech companies lobbying for more H1B's realize this as well.
MSND doc may be useful, but don't you stll have to buy the CD from Microsoft? I prefer the way Java is documented. I just point my browser to Sun's website and go. As for C++ on UNIX, all I need is 3 books: C Referance Manual - K & R C++ Referance Manual - Stroustrup Unix Network Programming - Stevens And I can program on ANY UNIX system ANYWHERE
But it all goes back to Microsoft's attempt to shut everybody out of Windows. Just like they did to J++, they have made the MFC and Visual C++ GUI classes so tied to Windows, its almost impossible to "digest" the code without 2 or 3 MFC and Windows API manuals. Thats why I have been programming C++ on UNIX for 5 years, and haven't written a line of Visual C++. I looked at doing a project in Visual C++ once, and soon decided that rather than waste 2 years of my life learning Windows API and MFC, I would just right the GUI portion in JAVA and do the back-end stuff in ANSI C++ on a UNIX. Got it done in a couple months. :)
Too bad the gaming industry can't come up with a standard, portable library tool-kit that they share and use for mutiple platforms. They would learn allot from taking an open-source approach. However, most of them guard their tools and programming methods so jealously, this would never happen.
Maybe there is an alternate universe where there is such a thing. ;)
They probably want to control the licensing of OS in the Server, so customers buying Cobolt Servers will be forced to pay SUN for upgrades. So I guess this is good news if you own SUN stock, but bad news if you plan on buying a Cobolt server.
You mean we're supposed to have a password? :>
You really need to get a job. There's more to do in life than posting 1st on Slashdot.
Hmmmm, Opera has been around for a while. Since before the time Mozilla was open source. And if you looked at it, you would see the style and navigation is totally different than Mozilla, OR IE. Seems like you are just trying to spread some FUD. I'll take my burger medium-well, without FUD, please.... :)
Two crashes is better than one!
I'm tired of the Linux version of Netscape crashing all the time!
Yes, but if you have to carry the keyboard with your cellphone, you lose the advantage of having 1 small object to carry. Then you might as well have a PDA or Laptop with a wireless WAP modem.
I don't think it will be popular, because cell-phones have lousy key-pads, instead of keyboards. How are you supposed to type: "Cast Freeze" in less than 5 seconds when a Troll is bashing you? Or imagine how long it would take to type: "Look at old Tome on 2nd Shelf". I just remember playing Zork II and Zork III, and how much typing you have to do. I can't imagine typing on cell-phone.