YMMV, hibernate/suspend is indeed buggy but it will not stay that way;). And think of various Linux failures as opportunities: the community makes it so that you don't get several Gb of unattended updates unless you ask for it. Any distro that violates that is readily swappable with one that doesn't.
So I'm going to explain myself as I see you are meeting my point: Why do we have to complain about regulations instead of implementing them, proactively, as you have noticed that some areas in these activities needs some ground rules? Basic, simple, sane rules. I agree with you on Hillary's approach on this, and I'll add to that that most politicians taking on the task to solve this problem will only serve some limited group or perspective. They will almost always lack the insight concerning exploits, abuse, scams or difficulties caused by either unregulated or poorly regulated activities, and yet they will dictate the policies.
Just tell me one thing: what unregulated activity works well as is? No exploits, no abuse and no scamming...
While I agree with your freedom reflexes, instead of whining about any attempt to tackle a problem please be the one to say the sane solution(s). Because there are simple solutions. Not solving correctly our problems is what gives them the task of screwing it up. So it's our fault, not theirs.
I have a similar policy at work: there are a number of intranet and whitelisted internet sites and for the rest you use credentials. Intranet also contains a socialisation portal for mostly professional purposes. Also, every time you enter the credentials you see a notification that traffic is monitored. They have also blacklisted known malware sites and some potentially dangerous sites (such as the infamous sourceforge.com). In principle this is a reasonable policy, as a lot of attacks/infections come from willful disregard of good practices and rules.
All this policy is coupled with inability to install software (except from approved list in a software catalog) and the inability to use USB pen drives except for a couple of approved models.
Now, my local IT dept. has bent some of these rules for me and a few others that need special conditions, specified and justified: ability to install software on work laptop, special/separate internet access at the price of additional screening at a flexible rate. Correctly describing the policies, rules and exceptions and good management/collaboration for the purpose of ensuring reasonable productivity (my company does not produce IT - services or software) is what keep us both secure and in business.
I expect things to happen just like GNOME3:
STEP 1: Big change, didn't really think that one out...
STEP 2: Community outrage, people whining, people migrating away
STEP 3: Some development versions away, things actually starts to work, requested features are being added
STEP 4: We get to a pretty nice project in itself, it has identity, it has what was intended, it has far less users (ungrateful bastards!!!)
PROFIT?
Should we get involved into the design of systemd and make it take on our own problems I'm sure it will turn out just fine. After all, the stakes are high, the stakes are many. I for one eagerly await for systemd to add plain text log/config support, just like mother UNIX wanted. Until then begone!
If you have the bucks then pay the professional, I haven't heard of any of them to do a terrible job for the huge paycheck. And the insurance will not cover even if a 'professional' did a lousy job. What the guys in the thread are stressing and you are not getting is the regulation of said job(s). And in my opinion both FOSS and closed source lack, in practice, a lot of testing scenarios. Being a conscious fellow I can add my own hacks... er... tests to see what I am installing, to more or less satisfying results and I always open a bug report when things aren't ok. And the tests, in my experience, are more easy to do and have shorter resolution loop (including feedback and push forth) in open source as it is in closed source. Also, the guys back at the source are really helpful even if you didn't pay for a support contract and the criteria for selecting your bug to be resolved are in most cases technical and fair.
Really sorry for my phrasing.
I'll stay at my current job as long as I can grow and develop, otherwise I'll move somewhere else. If I don't do that and I stop learning it would be really hard later on to pick up new stuff...
Yeah, I picked my first job as bad pay but a lot of learning opportunities and sticked with it for three years, which is usually the minimum requirement for a good job. Our college teachers called these 'the sacrificed years'. After that, I picked a better job and as long as I can grow I stay on my current workplace. I believe that once you stop growing it's really hard to change jobs.
Unless you are trying to switch to pascal-style strings instead of null-terminated ones you have limited ways to automatically check buffer overruns, just as you have limited ways to do garbage collecting or, for that matter, almost anything automagical with pointers. The compiler alone cannot enforce that policy, one could try to enforce it in the standard library or a framework. The difference between low and middle level languages and high level languages is the magic that happens behind the language. C has almost no magic, it just gives you the building blocks to do whatever you please.
I'd like a portable generator for my Android device of choice. Would that be Ok? I actually live in an area that can imagine the power grid not being there. Neighbours not far from my place still get some degree of technology. And that some degree means laptops, microwave ovens, satellite TV and air conditioner while being hundreds of miles from the closest power line. You might want to imagine the worst case scenario, but for me it's so unlikely I'd advise anyone to just learn how to cope without slashdot or facebook. Also, you might want to prepare for the most likely cataclysm: the Internet of zero privacy and high levels of censorship and manipulation. How would you survive that?
Starting with one of the great great GP and TFA, knowing that space is vast, how would people survive separation from the Earth? Would any of you be ready for that?
Well if most of you fearing the apocalypse could delete some of the porn on your drive and save heavy amounts of books, blueprints and scientific articles humanity might have a chance of recovering from such a cataclysm faster. You see a lot of crappy shows on television about people training to fight zombies and learning how to grow mushrooms, fearing some sort of Mad Max scenario, but fail to imagine ways to save knowledge in a meaningful way.
So how long did XP without service pack have support? How about XP SP1? Linux kernel 2.4 has reached end of life, but with code available there might be patches made by individuals who need it. You are comparing a kernel with an operating system, if you wanted to beat the linux crowd ask them about any distribution individual release. I was pleased to find out that the last version of SuSE before being acquired by Novell still has some mirrors on the net.
Yeah, it's getting colder outside on the global scale. Just look out the window every winter. It's all the proof I need. This winter the snow excess here was a football field-size snowflake. Those damn alarmists don't know what they're saying, let's just wait and see how wrong they are.
I think I went on with the Google hype about Wave, but I could see in it a replacement for current usage of e-mail (document collaboration, discussion threads, file transfer) as a lot of people abuse the reply with history feature of mail.
Because it wanted to replace e-mail it tried the federated approach for inter-server communication. Having servers of different ownership communicate freely would have provided migration or further along the way interconnection with social media (think about migrating a Facebook group or a forum thread to a Wave conversation).
Also today we use a mix of realtime/instant (chat) and offline/persistent (e-mail) communication. Isn't it time that somebody would try to invent a product offering both types of communication in the same package?
Pardon me, but if you look closer, in that github there isn't any Rizzoma server, just some gadgets.
There are no updates on Rizzoma core since early this year (I think January) and they didn't choose a license for it.
I saw that they are still working on some gadgets, and their server performs quite well, but that is a sign that developer involvement decreased once they reached a stable base.
Just to solve some of the unknowns of the thread:
1) between servers, Wave federation uses XMPP with some mumbo-jumbo/magic messages and as such it can be hosted (and interconnected) in a mesh, so yes it is medium independent.
2) between server and client Wave uses HTTP with websocket.
3) Wave is not a moving target as the protocol is no longer developed at high pace, if at all. The "Wave in a box" platform is still being incubated by Apache (waiting to get stable an attract developers).
4) I personally participated to the beta and I liked it.The potential to couple cooperative editing with the replay feature is huge on a lot of use-cases. It just gave you too many tools editing and little automated housekeeping so it ended a lot messier than e-mail conversations. Also, Google version of Wave was awful as a workflow. Rizzoma looks way better.
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YMMV, hibernate/suspend is indeed buggy but it will not stay that way ;). And think of various Linux failures as opportunities: the community makes it so that you don't get several Gb of unattended updates unless you ask for it. Any distro that violates that is readily swappable with one that doesn't.
So I'm going to explain myself as I see you are meeting my point:
Why do we have to complain about regulations instead of implementing them, proactively, as you have noticed that some areas in these activities needs some ground rules? Basic, simple, sane rules.
I agree with you on Hillary's approach on this, and I'll add to that that most politicians taking on the task to solve this problem will only serve some limited group or perspective. They will almost always lack the insight concerning exploits, abuse, scams or difficulties caused by either unregulated or poorly regulated activities, and yet they will dictate the policies.
Just tell me one thing: what unregulated activity works well as is? No exploits, no abuse and no scamming...
While I agree with your freedom reflexes, instead of whining about any attempt to tackle a problem please be the one to say the sane solution(s). Because there are simple solutions. Not solving correctly our problems is what gives them the task of screwing it up. So it's our fault, not theirs.
I have a similar policy at work: there are a number of intranet and whitelisted internet sites and for the rest you use credentials. Intranet also contains a socialisation portal for mostly professional purposes. Also, every time you enter the credentials you see a notification that traffic is monitored. They have also blacklisted known malware sites and some potentially dangerous sites (such as the infamous sourceforge.com). In principle this is a reasonable policy, as a lot of attacks/infections come from willful disregard of good practices and rules.
All this policy is coupled with inability to install software (except from approved list in a software catalog) and the inability to use USB pen drives except for a couple of approved models.
Now, my local IT dept. has bent some of these rules for me and a few others that need special conditions, specified and justified: ability to install software on work laptop, special/separate internet access at the price of additional screening at a flexible rate. Correctly describing the policies, rules and exceptions and good management/collaboration for the purpose of ensuring reasonable productivity (my company does not produce IT - services or software) is what keep us both secure and in business.
.... so everything between 0 and 1 would be met with lukewarm success? That's a great way of ruining both Christmas and 8th of August ;).
You can use a different architecture for replacement components, it shouldn't be the same thing
I expect things to happen just like GNOME3:
STEP 1: Big change, didn't really think that one out...
STEP 2: Community outrage, people whining, people migrating away
STEP 3: Some development versions away, things actually starts to work, requested features are being added
STEP 4: We get to a pretty nice project in itself, it has identity, it has what was intended, it has far less users (ungrateful bastards!!!)
PROFIT?
Should we get involved into the design of systemd and make it take on our own problems I'm sure it will turn out just fine. After all, the stakes are high, the stakes are many. I for one eagerly await for systemd to add plain text log/config support, just like mother UNIX wanted. Until then begone!
If you have the bucks then pay the professional, I haven't heard of any of them to do a terrible job for the huge paycheck. And the insurance will not cover even if a 'professional' did a lousy job.
What the guys in the thread are stressing and you are not getting is the regulation of said job(s). And in my opinion both FOSS and closed source lack, in practice, a lot of testing scenarios. Being a conscious fellow I can add my own hacks... er... tests to see what I am installing, to more or less satisfying results and I always open a bug report when things aren't ok. And the tests, in my experience, are more easy to do and have shorter resolution loop (including feedback and push forth) in open source as it is in closed source. Also, the guys back at the source are really helpful even if you didn't pay for a support contract and the criteria for selecting your bug to be resolved are in most cases technical and fair.
Point taken, AC.
Then enlighten this entire forum, smart ass :)
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Quality forum? You've never heard of Proronix?
Should I have?
It's the site that made the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs!
Some are common personal preferences that got accepted within submissions. Don't remember that much about NAT, though...
Phoronix
Really sorry for my phrasing. I'll stay at my current job as long as I can grow and develop, otherwise I'll move somewhere else. If I don't do that and I stop learning it would be really hard later on to pick up new stuff...
Yeah, I picked my first job as bad pay but a lot of learning opportunities and sticked with it for three years, which is usually the minimum requirement for a good job. Our college teachers called these 'the sacrificed years'. After that, I picked a better job and as long as I can grow I stay on my current workplace. I believe that once you stop growing it's really hard to change jobs.
Unless you are trying to switch to pascal-style strings instead of null-terminated ones you have limited ways to automatically check buffer overruns, just as you have limited ways to do garbage collecting or, for that matter, almost anything automagical with pointers. The compiler alone cannot enforce that policy, one could try to enforce it in the standard library or a framework. The difference between low and middle level languages and high level languages is the magic that happens behind the language. C has almost no magic, it just gives you the building blocks to do whatever you please.
I'd like a portable generator for my Android device of choice. Would that be Ok? I actually live in an area that can imagine the power grid not being there. Neighbours not far from my place still get some degree of technology. And that some degree means laptops, microwave ovens, satellite TV and air conditioner while being hundreds of miles from the closest power line. You might want to imagine the worst case scenario, but for me it's so unlikely I'd advise anyone to just learn how to cope without slashdot or facebook.
Also, you might want to prepare for the most likely cataclysm: the Internet of zero privacy and high levels of censorship and manipulation. How would you survive that?
Starting with one of the great great GP and TFA, knowing that space is vast, how would people survive separation from the Earth? Would any of you be ready for that?
Well if most of you fearing the apocalypse could delete some of the porn on your drive and save heavy amounts of books, blueprints and scientific articles humanity might have a chance of recovering from such a cataclysm faster. You see a lot of crappy shows on television about people training to fight zombies and learning how to grow mushrooms, fearing some sort of Mad Max scenario, but fail to imagine ways to save knowledge in a meaningful way.
So how long did XP without service pack have support? How about XP SP1? Linux kernel 2.4 has reached end of life, but with code available there might be patches made by individuals who need it. You are comparing a kernel with an operating system, if you wanted to beat the linux crowd ask them about any distribution individual release. I was pleased to find out that the last version of SuSE before being acquired by Novell still has some mirrors on the net.
Yeah, it's getting colder outside on the global scale. Just look out the window every winter. It's all the proof I need. This winter the snow excess here was a football field-size snowflake. Those damn alarmists don't know what they're saying, let's just wait and see how wrong they are.
Well played, sir, well played
I think I went on with the Google hype about Wave, but I could see in it a replacement for current usage of e-mail (document collaboration, discussion threads, file transfer) as a lot of people abuse the reply with history feature of mail.
Because it wanted to replace e-mail it tried the federated approach for inter-server communication. Having servers of different ownership communicate freely would have provided migration or further along the way interconnection with social media (think about migrating a Facebook group or a forum thread to a Wave conversation).
Also today we use a mix of realtime/instant (chat) and offline/persistent (e-mail) communication. Isn't it time that somebody would try to invent a product offering both types of communication in the same package?
Pardon me, but if you look closer, in that github there isn't any Rizzoma server, just some gadgets.
There are no updates on Rizzoma core since early this year (I think January) and they didn't choose a license for it.
I saw that they are still working on some gadgets, and their server performs quite well, but that is a sign that developer involvement decreased once they reached a stable base.
Just to solve some of the unknowns of the thread:
1) between servers, Wave federation uses XMPP with some mumbo-jumbo/magic messages and as such it can be hosted (and interconnected) in a mesh, so yes it is medium independent.
2) between server and client Wave uses HTTP with websocket.
3) Wave is not a moving target as the protocol is no longer developed at high pace, if at all. The "Wave in a box" platform is still being incubated by Apache (waiting to get stable an attract developers).
4) I personally participated to the beta and I liked it.The potential to couple cooperative editing with the replay feature is huge on a lot of use-cases. It just gave you too many tools editing and little automated housekeeping so it ended a lot messier than e-mail conversations. Also, Google version of Wave was awful as a workflow. Rizzoma looks way better.