Bristol (UK) is home to the second largest HP Labs in the world. They have also been involved in some fun wireless projects around the city. By fun, I mean "open networks connected to JANET". (here's one)
As a minor aside, it seems that the latest iPod update enables journalling on HFS+ iPods. This would be fine in most cases, but I found this out the hard way as I also use my iPod with my Debian box. The new hfsplus module in the 2.6 kernel doesn't seem to understand HFS + (journalled) yet, and would only mount it read-only until I disabled the journal.
Father Ted is Channel 4. BBC America distributes it under license. Incidentally, C4 is also partially publicly funded and has a public service remit, though they show ads unlike the beeb.
The BBC channels are available for free via satellite, but they are still encrypted. You need a smartcard to view them, which they will only send to UK licence-paying addresses. They may do similar for this.
Funny, I never managed to get 1394 working until I did move to 2.6. It didn't work at first, but disabling eth1394 got sbp2 working. I can now use my Mac, HFS+ formatted iPod with gtkpod. I never got HFS+ working with 2.4. On the other hand, I haven't managed to get ALSA working at all yet. The biggest problem I had with the upgrade was with USB (for my mouse). In the end I dumped uhci in favour of usbmouse. This is all with a VIA Epia-M Mini-ITX board.
The site hosting the report aren't the authors. It was written by McKinsey, who are a consultancy firm. I didn't link to the copy on their site, as it requires registration.
If a company has lower costs it is better able to expand. This creates jobs, both is the US and abroad. Of these, the US positions crated are likely to be more senior and better paid. Those who were previously code monkeys could become project managers, for example.
I don't think its about net gains. Its more about those that have and those that have not. The people who have the money and own the companies make a profit by hiring them.
Do you have a pension plan? A 401(k)? You do realise that the owners of the companies are not just fat men with cigars?
the haves are taking decent paying jobs away from the have nots
Wouldn't you consider Indian workers to be have nots?
On the flip side it seems thoguh that these haves are exploiting the Indian workers.
The Indian workers are earning what are considered very good wages in their country. The average wages have risen strongly as demand rises. I doubt they would consider that they're being exploited.
I can't believe how dense these spinning jenny people are. You employ 100 people to run mills that automate thousands of jobs. How does that help us?
I don't understand how comapies can lay off people, replace them with machines, and expect profits to rise. They layoff people, their customers... WHO will buy their products? with no one having enough money to buy them.
There is only ONE reason for this so called "Industrial Revolution". Only one reason: to make the mill owners more money.
these stories of how the Industrial Revoluttion will mean we don't have to all spend our lives covered in shit and will be better in the end are a COMPLETE FARCE! Burn the mills!
Firstly, outsourcing doesn't mean there is less money in the US economy. It means around 14% more (I won't post the link to sources again, I already have a couple of times in this discussion). Secondly, what about customers outside the US? "The economy" you refer to is global. These companies, by their very nature, are global. For example, US exports to India have risen from $2.5 billion in 1990, to $3.8 billion now. Much of that is due to the booming high tech industry there, and its demand for US high tech products.
Because they don't contribute their hard-earned money back into our* economy. The money doesn't flow in a circular fashion. Its a one-way flow outbound.
Do you have a source to back that up? Because I have a source that debunks it. Both countries make net gains.
The wages paid to Indian workers are actually considered very good. The difference is in puchasing power parity dollars, and unadjusted rates. As more jobs are created in India, there is more competition for skilled workers and their wages increase. As the gap between US and Indian wages decreases, they will need to find other ways to compete than price. This is much like Japan did in the past 50 years: going from competition on price of good such as electronics and cars, to competing on innovation and quality. A good outcome for all concerned.
For a group that are mostly forward-thinking, vocal supporters of freedom and against government restrictions, the Slashdot readership has a depressing tendency to slip into hypocritical and short-sighted protectionist rants when it comes to the subject of offshoring.
This is, of course, understandable when it is our jobs that seem to be threatened. It is a self-defeating position though, which ignores the effects of similar movements of jobs in the past. All of those have led to more, better paid jobs in the US (and other outsourcing countries such as the UK). If anything, this is likely to be even more apparent with this cycle: the workers who are affected this time are much more likely to be able to adapt to the new positions that become available. Their skills are more transferable than those of working in sectors such as manufacturing who have felt the brunt before.
The outsourcing boom is often portayed as Indian workers stealing US jobs, and foreign companbies taking US money. This is more than a simplistic view: it has been shown to be factually incorrect. Numerous studies have shown that outsourcing produces a net gain in both the supplier and consumer countries. These gains aren't just the fat cat profits that are denounced on this site, they are in the form of new jobs for US workers: higher skilled, better paid jobs, no less. Last year the consultancy firm McKinsey produced a report that weighed up the pros and cons of outsourcing by US companies to India. Their conclusions? For every dollar spent by US companies in India, there was a net gain of around $1.45-$1.47 to the global economy. Of that, 33c went to India, while $1.12-$1.14 went to the US. The gain to the US economy of US workers redeployed to higher paid jobs accounted for 45-47 cents of that gain. Other studies have had similar findings. So, far from being a case of India stealing american jobs, they are helping the US make gains, and helping american workers get better jobs.
None of this may seem too convincing to someone who has lost their jobs, but it's worth reflecting that the number of jobs outsourced is a tiny number compared to those created and lost as part of the normal economic cycle. It's worth trying to look further than the immediate situation. If resistance to such changes in the past had been successful, we'd all still be subsistence farmers. The lack of jobs now owes more to the current adminsitration's reckless economic policies than to outsourcing.
The is what J.S. Mill called 'the harm principle'. The government should let you do whatever you want, so long as it doesn't harm anyone else. Such a simple and seemingly obvious rule, but so few governments can resist going further.
No need to hack up an e-reader. There already is one on there. The only issue would be converting the books to the ipod note format, which is basically HTML with additional URL types that let you link to audio tracks from within the note.
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Bristol (UK) is home to the second largest HP Labs in the world. They have also been involved in some fun wireless projects around the city. By fun, I mean "open networks connected to JANET". (here's one)
He said he's in the UK. If he is found in possession of an offensive weapon, he'll go to jail.
Chevys? I don't think those things are exported. Never seen one in Europe myself.
As a minor aside, it seems that the latest iPod update enables journalling on HFS+ iPods. This would be fine in most cases, but I found this out the hard way as I also use my iPod with my Debian box. The new hfsplus module in the 2.6 kernel doesn't seem to understand HFS + (journalled) yet, and would only mount it read-only until I disabled the journal.
You may have some salient points, but your indignant, self-important posturing makes you sound like a whining twat. Grow up.
Do you understand what the words "publicly owned" mean? That means they're owned by the government.
A correction to my own post: C4 isn't publicly funded, though it is government owned. It is self-financing.
No. You are wrong. C4 is owned by the government.
Father Ted is Channel 4. BBC America distributes it under license. Incidentally, C4 is also partially publicly funded and has a public service remit, though they show ads unlike the beeb.
The BBC channels are available for free via satellite, but they are still encrypted. You need a smartcard to view them, which they will only send to UK licence-paying addresses. They may do similar for this.
While the BBC is a publicly owned corporation, corporation doesn't have to mean publicly owned. Why would they call it "corporation tax" if it did?
This is The Independent, one of the major newspapers in the UK. That's like mirroring the New York Times.
Funny, I never managed to get 1394 working until I did move to 2.6. It didn't work at first, but disabling eth1394 got sbp2 working. I can now use my Mac, HFS+ formatted iPod with gtkpod. I never got HFS+ working with 2.4. On the other hand, I haven't managed to get ALSA working at all yet. The biggest problem I had with the upgrade was with USB (for my mouse). In the end I dumped uhci in favour of usbmouse. This is all with a VIA Epia-M Mini-ITX board.
The site hosting the report aren't the authors. It was written by McKinsey, who are a consultancy firm. I didn't link to the copy on their site, as it requires registration.
If a company has lower costs it is better able to expand. This creates jobs, both is the US and abroad. Of these, the US positions crated are likely to be more senior and better paid. Those who were previously code monkeys could become project managers, for example.
Do you have a pension plan? A 401(k)? You do realise that the owners of the companies are not just fat men with cigars?
the haves are taking decent paying jobs away from the have notsWouldn't you consider Indian workers to be have nots?
On the flip side it seems thoguh that these haves are exploiting the Indian workers.
The Indian workers are earning what are considered very good wages in their country. The average wages have risen strongly as demand rises. I doubt they would consider that they're being exploited.
I don't understand how comapies can lay off people, replace them with machines, and expect profits to rise. They layoff people, their customers... WHO will buy their products? with no one having enough money to buy them.
There is only ONE reason for this so called "Industrial Revolution". Only one reason: to make the mill owners more money.
these stories of how the Industrial Revoluttion will mean we don't have to all spend our lives covered in shit and will be better in the end are a COMPLETE FARCE! Burn the mills!
Firstly, outsourcing doesn't mean there is less money in the US economy. It means around 14% more (I won't post the link to sources again, I already have a couple of times in this discussion). Secondly, what about customers outside the US? "The economy" you refer to is global. These companies, by their very nature, are global. For example, US exports to India have risen from $2.5 billion in 1990, to $3.8 billion now. Much of that is due to the booming high tech industry there, and its demand for US high tech products.
Do you have a source to back that up? Because I have a source that debunks it. Both countries make net gains.
The wages paid to Indian workers are actually considered very good. The difference is in puchasing power parity dollars, and unadjusted rates. As more jobs are created in India, there is more competition for skilled workers and their wages increase. As the gap between US and Indian wages decreases, they will need to find other ways to compete than price. This is much like Japan did in the past 50 years: going from competition on price of good such as electronics and cars, to competing on innovation and quality. A good outcome for all concerned.
This is, of course, understandable when it is our jobs that seem to be threatened. It is a self-defeating position though, which ignores the effects of similar movements of jobs in the past. All of those have led to more, better paid jobs in the US (and other outsourcing countries such as the UK). If anything, this is likely to be even more apparent with this cycle: the workers who are affected this time are much more likely to be able to adapt to the new positions that become available. Their skills are more transferable than those of working in sectors such as manufacturing who have felt the brunt before.
The outsourcing boom is often portayed as Indian workers stealing US jobs, and foreign companbies taking US money. This is more than a simplistic view: it has been shown to be factually incorrect. Numerous studies have shown that outsourcing produces a net gain in both the supplier and consumer countries. These gains aren't just the fat cat profits that are denounced on this site, they are in the form of new jobs for US workers: higher skilled, better paid jobs, no less. Last year the consultancy firm McKinsey produced a report that weighed up the pros and cons of outsourcing by US companies to India. Their conclusions? For every dollar spent by US companies in India, there was a net gain of around $1.45-$1.47 to the global economy. Of that, 33c went to India, while $1.12-$1.14 went to the US. The gain to the US economy of US workers redeployed to higher paid jobs accounted for 45-47 cents of that gain. Other studies have had similar findings. So, far from being a case of India stealing american jobs, they are helping the US make gains, and helping american workers get better jobs.
None of this may seem too convincing to someone who has lost their jobs, but it's worth reflecting that the number of jobs outsourced is a tiny number compared to those created and lost as part of the normal economic cycle. It's worth trying to look further than the immediate situation. If resistance to such changes in the past had been successful, we'd all still be subsistence farmers. The lack of jobs now owes more to the current adminsitration's reckless economic policies than to outsourcing.
The is what J.S. Mill called 'the harm principle'. The government should let you do whatever you want, so long as it doesn't harm anyone else. Such a simple and seemingly obvious rule, but so few governments can resist going further.
No need to hack up an e-reader. There already is one on there. The only issue would be converting the books to the ipod note format, which is basically HTML with additional URL types that let you link to audio tracks from within the note.