because the story so obviously belongs at -1, Troll
Well, it was a link from/. to an article at osnews, an article written by none other than Eugenia.
Of course it's a troll.
I also can't help but be annoyed by Eugenia claiming that "this is why Linux will never surpass Microsoft and apple". People like that think that by annoying people they can push them to work harder, and appear a kind of "hero" - in the "I gave them the push they needed" way.
Linux probably won't surpass MSFT any day soon, but when we get 20% desktop coverage I can safely say that Linux has kicked MSFT's ass:-).
I hereby share the great secret of making the most of spatial Nautilus.
1. Create a "places" folder weher you drag shortcuts to your favourite folders (you know, the usual: mp3, pr0n, work, school). ctrl+shift+drag = create shortcut (symlink). Put the "places" folder on desktop & toolbar.
2. Press ctrl+q to "kill all windows" when you've done whatever you were trying to do w/ file manager.
Yeah, it still doesn't approach the glory that is Konqueror but it's not worse than "browse" mode of Nautilus either.
Stuff like this is just what the doctor ordered to paint the software patents in as bad a light as possible. Let the parasites try to leech as much as possible, in most disgusting means available.
One day these leeches will be crushed, but they need to demonstrate to the wider audience that they *need* to be crushed. Hopefully this happens before they are too established.
I just happen to be one of the few official developers for the mono project, just catching this artical early.
Great, now that you are here:
A while (a year or two?) ago Novell was asking MSFT to clarify the IP issues with Mono, or at least to declare that Mono does not infringe MSFT IP, i.e. that it's safe to use. What happened with that? I'd certainly like to get a form of reassurance that it's going to stick around and be safe to code for, esp. with the emergence of projects like IronPython...
There is nothing to "snatch": these are applications implemented in a non-Microsoft toolkit using an open language standard.
The catch is that C# and CLR are not open standards - they are just ECMA standards. Apparently it was a brilliant move by MSFT because now people will automatically believe CLR is somehow "open". In fact, a while ago Novell was asking MSFT for a clear declaration that Mono does not infringe MSFT IP. Guess what, we never heard what happened with that.
I don't see how writing Gnome applications in C# benefits Microsoft any more than writing Gnome applications in C++ or Python.
It provides a hose that MSFT can step on to end the distribution of the appications. The more critical the app is for Desktop Linux, the better for MSFT. Hopefully the apps that are written in C# will stay small and architecturally open enough to be easily rewritten in another language should that happen. We should never become too dependent on Mono, or Java, or any other proprietary technology.
Everybody talks about living under the mercy of Microsoft when using Mono, but really it isn't an different than living under the mercy of Sun, both companies have their history of sqaushing compitition.
Just guess which one is more likely to attempt a lawsuit attack on the desktop Linux users. ISTR also that clean-room Java implementations are less infringing than Mono (which implements the ECMA standard that is granted with "reasonable and non-discriminatory" terms). Too bad Java is a dog, especially for smallish desktop apps.
Of course people should choose a truly open solution whenever appropriate:-).
Interestingly, the summary neglected to mention Beagle, the one Mono application I actually plan on using and that has created some momentum for getting the Mono into various distros.
If Mono proves to be snappier than, say, Java, there might be some hope for it but the spectre of living under the mercy of MSFT is not easy to dodge. It's still there, however much people tried to not talk or think about it.
This is -at most- a work in progress. The phone looks as if it were just a computer graphic(look at the large image).
It might also be a way to pump money out of some investors.
They claim availability of Symbian OS, which seems rather fishy to me. They can't be shipping w/ Nokia S80 variant (because Nokia aren't licensing it), and I don't believe Psion is going to license their UI kit either. They definitely aren't going to be implementing the software themselves, it's tons of work even for a giant like Nokia.
Linux might be realistic if Qtopia works "out of the box".
Would it be possible to write some browser plugin that automatically follow the links in ads and loads whatever page comes up "invisibly", off screen somewhere - just so that the avertiser registers a click and has to pay the site for it?
Opening the ad in a new tab is one possible solution. Of course you never read the tab...
Not for his abilities, but for the beautiful, peaceful-sounding world he lives in. To most of us, numbers are either an obstacle or a challenge or work or whatever. To him they're his friends. That's so unique. I envy him.
Don't forget the language genius. This guy seems a lot like somenone who might have been one of the inventors of Qabbala and influenced Judaic mysticism. There is no reason to expect that people of his kind weren't around back then.
So what if he held a gun to a priest's head and force him to give absolution? Does that still get Hitler into heaven?
No, the priest needs to be clenching his biceps the right way and think of lingonberries to grant an absolution. If he only does the other thing, the patient will "feel" like having given absolution, but will still go to hell.
You atheists fail to grab even the most basic realities of religion...
Can a priest give himself absolution for having sex with the children in his congregation?
For a company that made $2 billion off of Linux in the first year, it would seem that more spending would be appropriate.
Companies don't care how much spending would be "appropriate". They are going with spending that they think is going to be profitable, just the way it should be.
We all know that many Europeans migrated here during the colonies because of tyranny.
Not tyranny, just oppression. The current situation in the US might give some clues as to *why* the ancestors of these people were oppressed in the first place;-).
We got religion everywhere, censored television/radio/newspapers.
Yup, I wouldn't mind if religious bigots equivalent groups boarded a ship and left for another, newfound continent. Europe is has been said to be post-religious, while USA is lagging by, say, a hundred years or so.
Now if you want to talk about acting on those attitudes violently, instead of just voicing your feelings ( a constitutional right here in my country ), we would be more in agreement.
Note that I didn't say it should be banned - just said that it's a problem. Greed, gluttony, lust, and other "human vices" can be problematic, but they should not IMO be banned.
I would still ban hatespeech in a forum I was moderating, mostly because it may offend other members. All kinds of "jewish conspiracy" stuff might be funny in a perverse kind of way to some people, but "kill the Jews" is not, most of the time.
Actually, in a way, the concept of orkut ist facist in itself. Creating artifical borders were there are none.
It's also a way to make it interesting. You want it because someone else can't have it. Google is a business so it does what it needs to do to make it interesting and different.
There's a quote that comes to mind when I read about this stuff: "The American republic will endure until the politicians find they can bribe the people with their own money."
I don't get it - where's the catch? I generally only see politicians in the receiving end of the money.
CORBA has been simplifying while SOAP has been complexifying. SOAP is now more complicated to develop for than CORBA.
CORBA is actually remarkably simple to grok if you are not using C++. CORBA bindings for Python are a snap (and esp. omniORB is very very fast), and it never ceases to astound me that CORBA hasn't "made it" in the mainstream. Instead, people think they need web services to "simplify" matters.
Hopefully, now since cross platform OSS programs can now use QT, the GTK will die an awful awful death.
GTK is still preferable for developing proprietary applications. The whole software world isn't suddenly going open source - and that's what keeps Trolltech in business as well.
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because the story so obviously belongs at -1, Troll
/. to an article at osnews, an article written by none other than Eugenia.
:-).
Well, it was a link from
Of course it's a troll.
I also can't help but be annoyed by Eugenia claiming that "this is why Linux will never surpass Microsoft and apple". People like that think that by annoying people they can push them to work harder, and appear a kind of "hero" - in the "I gave them the push they needed" way.
Linux probably won't surpass MSFT any day soon, but when we get 20% desktop coverage I can safely say that Linux has kicked MSFT's ass
I hereby share the great secret of making the most of spatial Nautilus.
1. Create a "places" folder weher you drag shortcuts to your favourite folders (you know, the usual: mp3, pr0n, work, school). ctrl+shift+drag = create shortcut (symlink). Put the "places" folder on desktop & toolbar.
2. Press ctrl+q to "kill all windows" when you've done whatever you were trying to do w/ file manager.
Yeah, it still doesn't approach the glory that is Konqueror but it's not worse than "browse" mode of Nautilus either.
"Hence, Torvalds said, a patch specific to the x86 platform that he was submitting to the list for consideration was totally untested."
Linux development process in a nut-shell. This is why *BSD/OSX will be alive and kicking for as long as people need a stable operating system.
What makes you think the patch was in a stable release of kernel?
(Flamebait me all you want, my karma is through the floor anyway.)
Well, you certainly have it coming.
Which is a shame. Booting into OSX once in a while might give him an additional perspective.
He has repeatedly said that he doesn't care about userspace.
He has also said that Mach, which is the microkernel OSX is based on, is a "piece of shit". Read "Just for Fun", his autobiography, for full details.
In an amazing display of democracy, the parliament will still vote on the issue, according to the article.
Stuff like this is just what the doctor ordered to paint the software patents in as bad a light as possible. Let the parasites try to leech as much as possible, in most disgusting means available.
One day these leeches will be crushed, but they need to demonstrate to the wider audience that they *need* to be crushed. Hopefully this happens before they are too established.
This means you had 2 years to realise that these are also ISO standards.
Well, in that case Mono project does a pretty bad job about advertising that. Everybody always talks about ECMA standards.
I just happen to be one of the few official developers for the mono project, just catching this artical early.
Great, now that you are here:
A while (a year or two?) ago Novell was asking MSFT to clarify the IP issues with Mono, or at least to declare that Mono does not infringe MSFT IP, i.e. that it's safe to use. What happened with that? I'd certainly like to get a form of reassurance that it's going to stick around and be safe to code for, esp. with the emergence of projects like IronPython...
There is nothing to "snatch": these are applications implemented in a non-Microsoft toolkit using an open language standard.
The catch is that C# and CLR are not open standards - they are just ECMA standards. Apparently it was a brilliant move by MSFT because now people will automatically believe CLR is somehow "open". In fact, a while ago Novell was asking MSFT for a clear declaration that Mono does not infringe MSFT IP. Guess what, we never heard what happened with that.
I don't see how writing Gnome applications in C# benefits Microsoft any more than writing Gnome applications in C++ or Python.
It provides a hose that MSFT can step on to end the distribution of the appications. The more critical the app is for Desktop Linux, the better for MSFT. Hopefully the apps that are written in C# will stay small and architecturally open enough to be easily rewritten in another language should that happen. We should never become too dependent on Mono, or Java, or any other proprietary technology.
Everybody talks about living under the mercy of Microsoft when using Mono, but really it isn't an different than living under the mercy of Sun, both companies have their history of sqaushing compitition.
:-).
Just guess which one is more likely to attempt a lawsuit attack on the desktop Linux users. ISTR also that clean-room Java implementations are less infringing than Mono (which implements the ECMA standard that is granted with "reasonable and non-discriminatory" terms). Too bad Java is a dog, especially for smallish desktop apps.
Of course people should choose a truly open solution whenever appropriate
Interestingly, the summary neglected to mention Beagle, the one Mono application I actually plan on using and that has created some momentum for getting the Mono into various distros.
If Mono proves to be snappier than, say, Java, there might be some hope for it but the spectre of living under the mercy of MSFT is not easy to dodge. It's still there, however much people tried to not talk or think about it.
This is -at most- a work in progress. The phone looks as if it were just a computer graphic(look at the large image).
It might also be a way to pump money out of some investors.
They claim availability of Symbian OS, which seems rather fishy to me. They can't be shipping w/ Nokia S80 variant (because Nokia aren't licensing it), and I don't believe Psion is going to license their UI kit either. They definitely aren't going to be implementing the software themselves, it's tons of work even for a giant like Nokia.
Linux might be realistic if Qtopia works "out of the box".
Would it be possible to write some browser plugin that automatically follow the links in ads and loads whatever page comes up "invisibly", off screen somewhere - just so that the avertiser registers a click and has to pay the site for it?
Opening the ad in a new tab is one possible solution. Of course you never read the tab...
Not for his abilities, but for the beautiful, peaceful-sounding world he lives in. To most of us, numbers are either an obstacle or a challenge or work or whatever. To him they're his friends. That's so unique. I envy him.
Don't forget the language genius. This guy seems a lot like somenone who might have been one of the inventors of Qabbala and influenced Judaic mysticism. There is no reason to expect that people of his kind weren't around back then.
So what if he held a gun to a priest's head and force him to give absolution? Does that still get Hitler into heaven?
No, the priest needs to be clenching his biceps the right way and think of lingonberries to grant an absolution. If he only does the other thing, the patient will "feel" like having given absolution, but will still go to hell.
You atheists fail to grab even the most basic realities of religion...
Can a priest give himself absolution for having sex with the children in his congregation?
"Making love", my friend, "making love".
For a company that made $2 billion off of Linux in the first year, it would seem that more spending would be appropriate.
Companies don't care how much spending would be "appropriate". They are going with spending that they think is going to be profitable, just the way it should be.
We all know that many Europeans migrated here during the colonies because of tyranny.
;-).
Not tyranny, just oppression. The current situation in the US might give some clues as to *why* the ancestors of these people were oppressed in the first place
We got religion everywhere, censored television/radio/newspapers.
Yup, I wouldn't mind if religious bigots equivalent groups boarded a ship and left for another, newfound continent. Europe is has been said to be post-religious, while USA is lagging by, say, a hundred years or so.
Now if you want to talk about acting on those attitudes violently, instead of just voicing your feelings ( a constitutional right here in my country ), we would be more in agreement.
Note that I didn't say it should be banned - just said that it's a problem. Greed, gluttony, lust, and other "human vices" can be problematic, but they should not IMO be banned.
I would still ban hatespeech in a forum I was moderating, mostly because it may offend other members. All kinds of "jewish conspiracy" stuff might be funny in a perverse kind of way to some people, but "kill the Jews" is not, most of the time.
Its human nature... Its how we are wired.
That doesn't stop it from being a problem, much like many other very human traits.
Actually, in a way, the concept of orkut ist facist in itself. Creating artifical borders were there are none.
It's also a way to make it interesting. You want it because someone else can't have it. Google is a business so it does what it needs to do to make it interesting and different.
There's a quote that comes to mind when I read about this stuff:
"The American republic will endure until the politicians find they can bribe the people with their own money."
I don't get it - where's the catch? I generally only see politicians in the receiving end of the money.
-Alexis de Toqueville
Ahh, that name brings me back...
This is starting to get ridiculous, plain and simple. If this is democracy, I don't want to have anything to do with it.
I guess this is where a fascists would-be dictator steps in and uses this case to showcase his agenda, namely that democracy == corruption.
CORBA has been simplifying while SOAP has been complexifying. SOAP is now more complicated to develop for than CORBA.
CORBA is actually remarkably simple to grok if you are not using C++. CORBA bindings for Python are a snap (and esp. omniORB is very very fast), and it never ceases to astound me that CORBA hasn't "made it" in the mainstream. Instead, people think they need web services to "simplify" matters.
Ah, the folly of humanity...
and BitTorrent, written in wxWidgets, isn't the prettiest app
Bittorrent uses wxWidgets that wraps GTK1, which is ugly. Recent wxWidgets uses GTK2, which is much prettier.
or a fairly ugly port of GTK, which I've been forced to use.
I'm running Gaim on windows, based on GTK2. Check it out, it's quite pretty and blends well in windows envirenment.
Hopefully, now since cross platform OSS programs can now use QT, the GTK will die an awful awful death.
GTK is still preferable for developing proprietary applications. The whole software world isn't suddenly going open source - and that's what keeps Trolltech in business as well.