(iii) Any telecommunications access device that has been manufactured, assembled, altered, designed, modified, programmed, or reprogrammed, alone or in conjunction with another device, so as to be capable of facilitating the disruption, acquisition, interception, receipt, transmission, retransmission, or decryption of a telecommunications service without the actual consent or express authorization of the telecommunications service provider.....
Look at a portion of the text you bolded:
"facilitating the disruption, acquisition, interception, receipt, transmission, retransmission, or decryption of a telecommunications service without the actual consent..."
Lets see - a NAT and facilitating unauthorized:
Transmission Reception Decryption Retransmiss ion Acquisition
Nope. A NAT can't faciliate any unauthorized stuff like this. A NAT is not a network tap, interface, hacked head end or whatever. All a NAT does is address translation.
And then, later you cited:
primarily "(Think: Primary purpose of Cable/DSL Modem with NAT) " distributed, sold, designed, assembled, manufactured, modified, programmed, reprogrammed, or used for the purpose of providing the unauthorized receipt
Now you really are off the deep end again here. A NAT is NOT:
"primarily distributed, sold... for the purpose of providing the unauthorized... of telecommunications service"
The primary purpose of a NAT is to provide an interface between a public an private network.
You are wrong, AGAIN. Give it up, you look doubly foolish arguing a lost argument. This law has nothing to do with NATs, VPNs etc.
And next time, don't start a discussion with ad hominem attacks. You really bring out the worst in people with that sort of approach.
You still don't have it right - look at the wording AGAIN -
or assemble, develop, manufacture, possess, deliver, offer to deliver, or advertise a telecommunications device intending to use those devices or to allow the
clearly "those devices" are the unlawful devices, i.e. you aren't allowed to assemble etc. a telecommunications device intending to use unlawful devices as components.
Once again, this law has nothing to do with VPNs etc.
Maybe you should RE-read, before you're so hasty to flame
I don't think so. Most of what passes for programming is pretty far short of engineering. If a civil enginner practised his profession the way a programmer does his he would get thrown in jail.
One of the key areas where programming falls short is liability. No software company provides any sort of warantee for their product, and courts do not enforce any claims against software. Real engineers accept liability for the quality of their work.
The key phrase in this is "unlawful telecommunications access device". If you look up the definition of this phrase you will find that it is something like a hacked or cloned cell phone.
This law has nothing to do with VPN, NAT, routers or firewalls, despite the highly inflammatory and misleading article.
(b) "Telecommunications access device" shall have the same meaning as in section 219a.
Boy, you really have a problem reading and understanding basic english, don't you. Pay attention now:
There is a BIG difference between "unlawful telecommunications device", to which part (1) of this ammendment refers to, and "telecommunications device"
The fact is that this law applies to "unlawful telecommunication devices" NOT "telecommunication access devices". READ THE BILL!!!!
The FACTS are
a. that this does NOT apply to devices such as routes, firewalls, or use of VPN or NAT technologies, and
b. you are the most insultingly stupid correspondent I have ever had the misfortune to meet on slashdot.
Nah. Read the first paragraph. It all depends on the definition of what an "illegal telecommunications device" is. If you read the definition of this, you will find that it's a hacked cell phone.
This has zero, zip, zilch, nothing to do with NAT, VPN or anything similar.
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Isn't that why they had to start over on their Java IDE?
To begin with, Eclipse is NOT a just a Java IDE. It is a tools platform that supports a bunch of languages including Java, PHP, C/C++, and yes, even Cobol.
As for the reasons why IBM is dumping Visual Age (which many people felt had the best Java IDE), I think it is pretty obvious that the plug-in architecure of Eclipse is the driving force.
And my previous comments about open source usability still stand.
I agree that an Open Source effort is in general less likely to have good usabilty compared to a commercial product. But that sort of rule is such a sweeping generalization that there are bound to be exceptions. The fact is that there are plenty of commercial products that have poor usability, and many of those have open source competitors that are at least as good.
Hey guys, how about reading the bill. This is aimed at cell phone hacking. It has nothing to do with NAT,VPNs or anything similar.
Paraphrasing, it says:
It is illegal to manufacture or posses an unlawful telecommunications device that can be used to steal service, intercept messages and hide where it is being used.
An unlawful telephone device (from the ammended article):
includes but is not limited to a clone telephone, clone microchip, tumbler telephone, tumbler microchip, or wireless scanning device capable of acquiring, intercepting, receiving, or otherwise facilitating the use of a telecommunications service without immediate detection.
Later in the article it exempts amateur radio equipment.
Now, since when is a router or firewall an unlawful telecommunications device???
All this does is make owning or selling phone freaking equipment illegal. It ha nothing to do with George Bush being the second coming of Hitler or any such thing.
So do I, and it seems to work quite well within Eclipse.
I really seems to want to control my build process. Unfortunatley that won't work well. I have packages with Classes in two seperate physical directories, one auto generated by Middlegen and Xdoclet and one hand coded. I have seperate output paths for my EJBs, Utility classes and Servlet stuff. These then all get packaged into an EAR.
Since Eclipse 2.1 has very good integration with Ant I have a very hard time understanding why this would be an issue. I do all of this, and more including deployment to and restarting a remote server from within Eclipse.
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I've never seen an open source project that has excelled in that area.
I don't think that Eclipse is at all a typical open source project. Its development is really driven by IBM who are using it as the basis for most of their enterprise development tools.
If I were IDEA or Borland I would be looking at ways to exit the Java IDE business. The fact that Eclipse is pretty good right now, is free, and has the backing of IBM is going to make it tough for anybody to recoup development costs in this area. Instead I'd be looking to write plugins for Eclipse.
http://www.socialistaction.org/news/200006/franc e. html
In fact Germany in a way is a lot "freer" than the US when it comes to job negotiations
and you gave the reason here:
Covering approximately 90 percent of all wage and salary-earners
It seems to me that in Germany over 90% of workers are covered by collective bargaining agreements - these agreements presumably give workers no ability to negotiate with their employers as individuals.
That is a LOT less freedom than we have in the US.
It's artificail in that it is imposed by government for the express purpose of trying to increase the rates of employment. If it weren't for this presumably the rate of unemployment would be higher.
Personally I don't think it works - all it does is reduce worker productivity, pushing marginal workers out of jobs.
The reason I use an IDE is carpal tunnel - I find that it requires a lot less typing to use Eclipse vs. a text editor, and my RSI problems went away when I started using Eclipse. I also feel my code quality is better - Eclipse makes it much easier to clean up or refactor code than if I was using a text editor.
Even on a 2.8GHz Pentium 4, it takes Eclipse more than a minute to start up. And the search/replace mechanism is primitive at best and ineffective at worst.
You must be using a different version than I do. On my 1.8 GHz laptop (512 MB, RedHat 8.0) it takes Eclipse 2.1-motif 9 seconds (no plugins, no open files) to start up the second time.
Just don't expect it from a newb programmer who doesn't understand an array from a vector.
The spaghetti site I ran into was written by an experienced programmer who had just come from an Ada shop. He knew all you said, but the project management was so screwed up that he did not get a chance to apply his skills.
My personal opinion is that most spaghetti sites are not the fault of the programmer, but rather the people managing the project.
You make the mistake to think that the stats you are reading are actually the same.
Really? The BBC seems to think they are comparable.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/687918.stm
Then we have longer term studies that show that the US has far stronger job creation than Europe, and in fact the unemployment measurements in Europe are artificially low because of training programs, early retirement, workweeks limited to 35 hours, etc.
US is engaged in a race to the bottom when it comes to working conditions, salaries, job security, and the environment.
This comment is utterly preposterous on the face of it. The US has the lowest unemployment rates and highest per capita income of any developed country.
In some sense I agree with you - I have had to spend time supporting a large site written in PHP spaghetti, so I have good reason to hate it. I've also had to deal with similar ASP sites, so I will argue that any difference between the two is insignificant.
But there are applications where I think PHP is fine - places where cost is paramount. PHP is fine for throwaway prototypes, and it offers hosting companies the ability to offer a lot of functionality for a $10 a month site.
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Best reason not to move to Java.... Java is a good language, but it's bad to be trapped to a single company for your language.
The same could be said for Visual Basic,.Net, etc.
You don't really think that IBM would let Java die if Sun ran into real financial trouble, do you?
The fact is that there are so many large organizations tied to Java the likelihood of it dying out is the same as Cobol i.e. zero.
Just because your ISP is stuck in the 90's doesn't mean you need to drag everybody else down with you.
I am not sure this makes economic sense. An ISP providing general internet access is going to have its costs driven up if it supports servers as part of its basic package. I would think it would make sense to unbundle this.
Right now there are plenty of good hosting companies that offer packages that include database access for $10/month or less, and provide far better service than any broadband ISP I have heard of.
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Let us examine the item you consider interesting:
s ion
... for the purpose of providing the unauthorized ... of telecommunications service"
(iii) Any telecommunications access device that has been manufactured, assembled, altered, designed, modified, programmed, or reprogrammed, alone or in conjunction with another device, so as to be capable of facilitating the disruption, acquisition, interception, receipt, transmission, retransmission, or decryption of a telecommunications service without the actual consent or express authorization of the telecommunications service provider.....
Look at a portion of the text you bolded:
"facilitating the disruption, acquisition, interception, receipt, transmission, retransmission, or decryption of a telecommunications service without the actual consent..."
Lets see - a NAT and facilitating unauthorized:
Transmission
Reception
Decryption
Retransmis
Acquisition
Nope. A NAT can't faciliate any unauthorized stuff like this. A NAT is not a network tap, interface, hacked head end or whatever. All a NAT does is address translation.
And then, later you cited:
primarily "(Think: Primary purpose of Cable/DSL Modem with NAT) " distributed, sold, designed, assembled, manufactured, modified, programmed, reprogrammed, or used for the purpose of providing the unauthorized receipt
Now you really are off the deep end again here. A NAT is NOT:
"primarily distributed, sold
The primary purpose of a NAT is to provide an interface between a public an private network.
You are wrong, AGAIN. Give it up, you look doubly foolish arguing a lost argument. This law has nothing to do with NATs, VPNs etc.
And next time, don't start a discussion with ad hominem attacks. You really bring out the worst in people with that sort of approach.
You still don't have it right - look at the wording AGAIN -
or assemble, develop, manufacture, possess, deliver, offer to deliver, or advertise a telecommunications device intending to use those devices or to allow the
clearly "those devices" are the unlawful devices, i.e. you aren't allowed to assemble etc. a telecommunications device intending to use unlawful devices as components.
Once again, this law has nothing to do with VPNs etc.
Maybe you should RE-read, before you're so hasty to flame
I wasn't the one to start the flaming.
I don't think so. Most of what passes for programming is pretty far short of engineering. If a civil enginner practised his profession the way a programmer does his he would get thrown in jail.
One of the key areas where programming falls short is liability. No software company provides any sort of warantee for their product, and courts do not enforce any claims against software. Real engineers accept liability for the quality of their work.
The key phrase in this is "unlawful telecommunications access device". If you look up the definition of this phrase you will find that it is something like a hacked or cloned cell phone.
This law has nothing to do with VPN, NAT, routers or firewalls, despite the highly inflammatory and misleading article.
(b) "Telecommunications access device" shall have the same meaning as in section 219a.
Boy, you really have a problem reading and understanding basic english, don't you. Pay attention now:
There is a BIG difference between "unlawful telecommunications device", to which part (1) of this ammendment refers to, and "telecommunications device"
The fact is that this law applies to "unlawful telecommunication devices" NOT "telecommunication access devices". READ THE BILL!!!!
The FACTS are
a. that this does NOT apply to devices such as routes, firewalls, or use of VPN or NAT technologies, and
b. you are the most insultingly stupid correspondent I have ever had the misfortune to meet on slashdot.
This makes NAT illegal
Nah. Read the first paragraph. It all depends on the definition of what an "illegal telecommunications device" is. If you read the definition of this, you will find that it's a hacked cell phone.
This has zero, zip, zilch, nothing to do with NAT, VPN or anything similar.
Isn't that why they had to start over on their Java IDE?
To begin with, Eclipse is NOT a just a Java IDE. It is a tools platform that supports a bunch of languages including Java, PHP, C/C++, and yes, even Cobol.
As for the reasons why IBM is dumping Visual Age (which many people felt had the best Java IDE), I think it is pretty obvious that the plug-in architecure of Eclipse is the driving force.
And my previous comments about open source usability still stand.
I agree that an Open Source effort is in general less likely to have good usabilty compared to a commercial product. But that sort of rule is such a sweeping generalization that there are bound to be exceptions. The fact is that there are plenty of commercial products that have poor usability, and many of those have open source competitors that are at least as good.
Hey guys, how about reading the bill. This is aimed at cell phone hacking. It has nothing to do with NAT,VPNs or anything similar.
Paraphrasing, it says:
It is illegal to manufacture or posses an unlawful telecommunications device that can be used to steal service, intercept messages and hide where it is being used.
An unlawful telephone device (from the ammended article):
includes but is not limited to a clone telephone, clone microchip, tumbler telephone, tumbler microchip, or wireless scanning device capable of acquiring, intercepting, receiving, or otherwise facilitating the use of a telecommunications service without immediate detection.
Later in the article it exempts amateur radio equipment.
Now, since when is a router or firewall an unlawful telecommunications device???
All this does is make owning or selling phone freaking equipment illegal. It ha nothing to do with George Bush being the second coming of Hitler or any such thing.
I use multiple output and source paths.
So do I, and it seems to work quite well within Eclipse.
I really seems to want to control my build process. Unfortunatley that won't work well. I have packages with Classes in two seperate physical directories, one auto generated by Middlegen and Xdoclet and one hand coded. I have seperate output paths for my EJBs, Utility classes and Servlet stuff. These then all get packaged into an EAR.
Since Eclipse 2.1 has very good integration with Ant I have a very hard time understanding why this would be an issue. I do all of this, and more including deployment to and restarting a remote server from within Eclipse.
I've never seen an open source project that has excelled in that area.
I don't think that Eclipse is at all a typical open source project. Its development is really driven by IBM who are using it as the basis for most of their enterprise development tools.
If I were IDEA or Borland I would be looking at ways to exit the Java IDE business. The fact that Eclipse is pretty good right now, is free, and has the backing of IBM is going to make it tough for anybody to recoup development costs in this area. Instead I'd be looking to write plugins for Eclipse.
Germany doesn't limit you to 36 hours a week
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I never said they did. France, however, does.
http://www.socialistaction.org/news/200006/fran
In fact Germany in a way is a lot "freer" than the US when it comes to job negotiations
and you gave the reason here:
Covering approximately 90 percent of all wage and salary-earners
It seems to me that in Germany over 90% of workers are covered by collective bargaining agreements - these agreements presumably give workers no ability to negotiate with their employers as individuals.
That is a LOT less freedom than we have in the US.
There's no point in sucking up to users who use software from half a decade ago.
The big problem is corps who are too braindead to upgrade.
Did you know that Sun's standard PC software load is Windows 98/Netscape 4.79?
Give me a break.
Dude, what's artificial about a shorter workweek?
It's artificail in that it is imposed by government for the express purpose of trying to increase the rates of employment. If it weren't for this presumably the rate of unemployment would be higher.
Personally I don't think it works - all it does is reduce worker productivity, pushing marginal workers out of jobs.
The reason I use an IDE is carpal tunnel - I find that it requires a lot less typing to use Eclipse vs. a text editor, and my RSI problems went away when I started using Eclipse. I also feel my code quality is better - Eclipse makes it much easier to clean up or refactor code than if I was using a text editor.
Even on a 2.8GHz Pentium 4, it takes Eclipse more than a minute to start up. And the search/replace mechanism is primitive at best and ineffective at worst.
You must be using a different version than I do. On my 1.8 GHz laptop (512 MB, RedHat 8.0) it takes Eclipse 2.1-motif 9 seconds (no plugins, no open files) to start up the second time.
simply because it fills the screen with what you're actually working on
Modern IDEs including Eclipse generally have the ability to arrange the work area any way you want.
Just don't expect it from a newb programmer who doesn't understand an array from a vector.
The spaghetti site I ran into was written by an experienced programmer who had just come from an Ada shop. He knew all you said, but the project management was so screwed up that he did not get a chance to apply his skills.
My personal opinion is that most spaghetti sites are not the fault of the programmer, but rather the people managing the project.
You make the mistake to think that the stats you are reading are actually the same.
Really? The BBC seems to think they are comparable.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/687918.stm
Then we have longer term studies that show that the US has far stronger job creation than Europe, and in fact the unemployment measurements in Europe are artificially low because of training programs, early retirement, workweeks limited to 35 hours, etc.
http://www.epf.org/labor99/intrncontx.htm
US is engaged in a race to the bottom when it comes to working conditions, salaries, job security, and the environment.
This comment is utterly preposterous on the face of it. The US has the lowest unemployment rates and highest per capita income of any developed country.
I think PHP sucks.
In some sense I agree with you - I have had to spend time supporting a large site written in PHP spaghetti, so I have good reason to hate it. I've also had to deal with similar ASP sites, so I will argue that any difference between the two is insignificant.
But there are applications where I think PHP is fine - places where cost is paramount. PHP is fine for throwaway prototypes, and it offers hosting companies the ability to offer a lot of functionality for a $10 a month site.
Best reason not to move to Java.... Java is a good language, but it's bad to be trapped to a single company for your language.
.Net, etc.
The same could be said for Visual Basic,
You don't really think that IBM would let Java die if Sun ran into real financial trouble, do you?
The fact is that there are so many large organizations tied to Java the likelihood of it dying out is the same as Cobol i.e. zero.
Just because your ISP is stuck in the 90's doesn't mean you need to drag everybody else down with you.
I am not sure this makes economic sense. An ISP providing general internet access is going to have its costs driven up if it supports servers as part of its basic package. I would think it would make sense to unbundle this.
Right now there are plenty of good hosting companies that offer packages that include database access for $10/month or less, and provide far better service than any broadband ISP I have heard of.
Wouldn't Windows Clusters [microsoft.com] be better for crash testing?
The cluster is being used to SIMULATE crashes and ANALYZE crash test results. The Windows cluster would be used if you wanted actual crashes.
I've got a Dell server running NT4 with an uptime of over 500 days.
So you haven't applied a patch in 500 days? Or maybe that uptime is just power supply uptime?
Without a link, you might just as well be making this shit up.
With a link my ass would be sued real quick.