For an example of a wiki that has better (but still limited) support for transclusion, see Wagn.
The problem with true hypertext as described by Ted Nelson is that it's a hard problem to solve. Your document editor really needs to be aware of the transclusions, or else you need some really complicated diff algorithm to work out your changes and then apply them properly.
That said, we probably would have seen a working example, if the Xanadu Project hadn't suffered from project management disasters. (Waterfall model, development in secret, second system effect, name an antipattern and they probably did it.)
It's also rather sad that his books are hard to obtain and not on the web, so people are generally unaware of how much actual useful work was done and how good the concepts were.
You can't compare a space station (a more or less complex set of tubes and solar panels) and an entire rocket.
Why not? Both can be sent up in chunks and assembled that way. You don't think the ISS was assembled bolt by bolt, do you? The Apollo missions involved sending up entire spacecraft and launching them from orbit to the moon.
The challenge for space travel is to get buy-in from the broader population, and to do that it has to have the same visceral, senseless emotional response that warfare has.
So if you gave people a choice between (a) Mars mission and (b) current wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, you think the majority would choose (b)?
Maybe I'm hopelessly out of touch, but I didn't think war was actually that popular with the broader population. Only with politicians.
Do you have any idea of the time and complexity needed to do even minor operations in space ? (i.e. doing some structural work on a space station)
This would take ages. Really, several generations. And cost trillions of dollars.
it sound cool, but it just isn't realistic.
You're right. The idea of building something as complex as a space station in pieces, and then assembling them in space, sounds cool--but it just isn't realistic. It would take generations.
So any pictures claiming to be of such a space station are clearly fakes shot on a sound stage at a secret military base in Nevada.
What version of device authentication doesn't involve having a critical secret key on the device being authenticated?
For the purpose of streaming audio between two devices on my home network, a user-assigned password would be more than sufficient; there was no need for private key crypto. The private key was not for authenticating that the device was authorized by me, it was for authenticating that the device was sold by Apple.
If they want something like a PDF file, there are a number of apps that will display those, and let them copy them over by selecting them in iTunes. I agree the interface is a little clunky, but it doesn't prevent you from copying to an iDevice any file that you can actually use on it.
I love the irony of someone defending the iPad on the basis that a clunky and inconvenient user interface doesn't matter...
This is a "known issue" and the fix is to wipe and load the phone and repurchase all of my purchased apps.
Your purchased apps are associated with your Google ID. You don't need to repurchase them.
I wiped my phone and installed a completely different ROM image, and all my purchased apps came right back when I ran the Market app.
Yeah, Maemo on N800 is a pile of suck, I hoped the N900 would be better, but I jumped ship when I saw that it wasn't. When you have bugs like #463 still open after 5 years, you know they had a loooong way to go to get competitive with Android.
it will take them more then a year to ship a Winmo7 based product. how long do you think it will take them to ship an android product?
Given that enthusiasts got Android working on the N810 and N900 for them, it shouldn't have taken them even a year. It was just the usual problem of hardware drivers, and presumably Nokia have C driver code for their hardware.
if winmo7 fails - they're dead.
If the Winmo7 strategy works, everyone will go tho winmo7 and gut them. then they'll be dead.
Or given that it's Microsoft we're talking about, if the winmo7 strategy works, Microsoft will start releasing its own hardware to get more of the profits (Zune phone / Kin II), using the patents they've undoubtedly cross licensed from Nokia as part of the deal, and Nokia will be dead.
IBM stopped DB2 support for Linux on Itanium with version 9, 9.5 doesn't support it....guess that leaves Websphere for HP/UX, that bloated piece of shit that is excuse for IBM to suck a client dry with consultants to attempt to make it useful
Do you have any actual evidence that the BSD license results in fewer contributions because it doesn't force people to contribute when they use the code?
How many OS versions has Microsoft used modified bits of the BSD TCP/IP stack in, and how many contributions have they made back to BSD?
Take me, for example. I'll be buying an iPad 2 when it comes out this week in my country, even though I already have two computers in this house, and my girlfriend has another two, and two out of those four are a notebook and a netbook. But none of them allow me to lie down on the couch and ready a PDF book comfortably. Or take with me when I go on a trip in much the same way I'd take a book.
I have a Kindle and an iPad, and I read books on the Kindle. The iPad is heavy, uncomfortable to hold, and less easy on the eyes. It's a jack-of-many-trades, master of none.
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For an example of a wiki that has better (but still limited) support for transclusion, see Wagn.
The problem with true hypertext as described by Ted Nelson is that it's a hard problem to solve. Your document editor really needs to be aware of the transclusions, or else you need some really complicated diff algorithm to work out your changes and then apply them properly.
That said, we probably would have seen a working example, if the Xanadu Project hadn't suffered from project management disasters. (Waterfall model, development in secret, second system effect, name an antipattern and they probably did it.)
It's also rather sad that his books are hard to obtain and not on the web, so people are generally unaware of how much actual useful work was done and how good the concepts were.
Personally, I think as far as math education should go, the more crippled, the better.
Well, that's why they're using TI calculators rather than RPN...
But that's not the choice we face. The choice we have is not between you go to (a) Mars) or (b) Iraq.
The choice is, you pay for someone else to go to (a) Mars or (b) Iraq.
No, the latter is exactly what I meant. I didn't mean each individual taxpayer would be given the choice of going to Mars, don't be ridiculous.
Sadly, more people picked (b).
Really? I don't remember any kind of referendum on the topic.
You can't compare a space station (a more or less complex set of tubes and solar panels) and an entire rocket.
Why not? Both can be sent up in chunks and assembled that way. You don't think the ISS was assembled bolt by bolt, do you? The Apollo missions involved sending up entire spacecraft and launching them from orbit to the moon.
The challenge for space travel is to get buy-in from the broader population, and to do that it has to have the same visceral, senseless emotional response that warfare has.
So if you gave people a choice between (a) Mars mission and (b) current wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, you think the majority would choose (b)?
Maybe I'm hopelessly out of touch, but I didn't think war was actually that popular with the broader population. Only with politicians.
Do you have any idea of the time and complexity needed to do even minor operations in space ? (i.e. doing some structural work on a space station)
This would take ages. Really, several generations. And cost trillions of dollars.
it sound cool, but it just isn't realistic.
You're right. The idea of building something as complex as a space station in pieces, and then assembling them in space, sounds cool--but it just isn't realistic. It would take generations.
So any pictures claiming to be of such a space station are clearly fakes shot on a sound stage at a secret military base in Nevada.
What version of device authentication doesn't involve having a critical secret key on the device being authenticated?
For the purpose of streaming audio between two devices on my home network, a user-assigned password would be more than sufficient; there was no need for private key crypto. The private key was not for authenticating that the device was authorized by me, it was for authenticating that the device was sold by Apple.
If they want something like a PDF file, there are a number of apps that will display those, and let them copy them over by selecting them in iTunes. I agree the interface is a little clunky, but it doesn't prevent you from copying to an iDevice any file that you can actually use on it.
I love the irony of someone defending the iPad on the basis that a clunky and inconvenient user interface doesn't matter...
So we can see that a fully open model doesn't work well in the mobile phone space.
I don't think anyone on Slashdot ever thought it was good that Android was open to the carriers. We care about whether it's open to the end user.
If I have to choose between a phone that's open to the carriers and one that's closed to me, I'll still take the former.
This is a "known issue" and the fix is to wipe and load the phone and repurchase all of my purchased apps.
Your purchased apps are associated with your Google ID. You don't need to repurchase them. I wiped my phone and installed a completely different ROM image, and all my purchased apps came right back when I ran the Market app.
And AT&T gave us C++
Unforgivable.
Yeah, Maemo on N800 is a pile of suck, I hoped the N900 would be better, but I jumped ship when I saw that it wasn't. When you have bugs like #463 still open after 5 years, you know they had a loooong way to go to get competitive with Android.
it will take them more then a year to ship a Winmo7 based product. how long do you think it will take them to ship an android product?
Given that enthusiasts got Android working on the N810 and N900 for them, it shouldn't have taken them even a year. It was just the usual problem of hardware drivers, and presumably Nokia have C driver code for their hardware.
if winmo7 fails - they're dead. If the Winmo7 strategy works, everyone will go tho winmo7 and gut them. then they'll be dead.
Or given that it's Microsoft we're talking about, if the winmo7 strategy works, Microsoft will start releasing its own hardware to get more of the profits (Zune phone / Kin II), using the patents they've undoubtedly cross licensed from Nokia as part of the deal, and Nokia will be dead.
IBM stopped DB2 support for Linux on Itanium with version 9, 9.5 doesn't support it....guess that leaves Websphere for HP/UX, that bloated piece of shit that is excuse for IBM to suck a client dry with consultants to attempt to make it useful
Not true, you can download DB2 Data Server 9.7 for Itanium from IBM's web site. [Opinions mine, not IBM's.]
Do you have any actual evidence that the BSD license results in fewer contributions because it doesn't force people to contribute when they use the code?
How many OS versions has Microsoft used modified bits of the BSD TCP/IP stack in, and how many contributions have they made back to BSD?
What if the lock down is designed to keep malware off of the user's device and maintain its stability, and the user is OK with that?
Then the user can live without the software of those who believe he's wrong.
And that is exactly why Apple can't use this on the iPhone.
And OS X Lion doesn't run on the iPhone.
But Apple's not preventing Mac owners from updating Samba modules on their systems
Not yet. But who's to say they might not be planning to add SMB or Active Directory support to the iPad?
Take me, for example. I'll be buying an iPad 2 when it comes out this week in my country, even though I already have two computers in this house, and my girlfriend has another two, and two out of those four are a notebook and a netbook. But none of them allow me to lie down on the couch and ready a PDF book comfortably. Or take with me when I go on a trip in much the same way I'd take a book.
I have a Kindle and an iPad, and I read books on the Kindle. The iPad is heavy, uncomfortable to hold, and less easy on the eyes. It's a jack-of-many-trades, master of none.
3G service in the US is still pretty close to nonexistent outside of a couple of major metropolitan areas, anyway.
Hyperbole much?
Because Apple wouldn't sell it unlocked.
Sony is not and was never a game company.
Know how I can tell you're an Xbox fanboy?
(Hint.)
I knew all about shareware, but I don't remember ever seeing anything that suggested paying for Trumpet WinSock.
I don't get it. How should that be a GPL violation?
It's derived code which makes no sense absent the API of the kernel. The GPL FAQ says it needs to be under a license compatible with the GPL. Furthermore, the GPL FAQ covers exactly this scenario of proprietary libraries linked with GPL code.