"you think"... well then, there's the problem. Were China to be seriously moving to EVs over IC vehicles at the close to equvalent production levels they would be addressing EV's production choke point: batteries. Seen any stories about their answer to Tesla's & Daimler's battery manufacturing plans? No, me neither.
I never thought nor claimed that you were the first to perform your acts of hindsight and revisionism (and am thus not the target of your charming potty mouth) but that doesn't change my opinion of those who snarkily divorce themselves from the realities of the times and judge acts taken as poor while dismissing acts untaken as somehow better without any proof beyond their opinioin.
That's why my comments on your revisionism concerned your flippant dismissal of the deaths of all those who certainly would have died had that other path been taken.
But that magical crystal ball of yours gives you the certitude that your revisionism is free of any unwanted secondary effects and leaves you so very high up on that imaginary high ground you imagine that you live upon.
China had but 15% of lithium automobile battery production in 2014, less than Japan with 37%, Korea with 24% and the U.S. with 19%. With Tesla's Gigafactory coming online U.S. production will be making a massive jump without an answering jump from China.
Sorry, as english clearly isn't your mother tongue you missed the sarcasm. I agree that the smog is a huge problem and if you read back I've been arguing that forcing a move to EVs is a backhand way to diminish vehicle purchases -- because they are very unlikely to be available for purchase in the numbers IC vehicles are.
Thus, specifying all new vehicles MUST be EVs would indeed relieve congestion.
Thanks however for correcting me on the brown-outs.
"China for many years" not have such dense life threatening smog and hoped to build enough roads to accept the new cars... But now the smog is getting headlines around the world, road construction is recognised to have failed at keeping up and people spend hours in traffic. So, my idea that forcing EVs is a way out.
Electrical generation is not an issue. They have a handle on producing enough electricity even through an economic explosion and have been moving to cleaner sources faster than the west (not hard given how many poorly filtered coal plants they were building up to a few years ago).
The biggest challenge for widespread development of EVs is battery production.
If only _your_ forefathers had been among the >2million predicted armed forces casualties in allied forces needed to subjugate Japan or among the tens of millions of Japanese that would have sacrificed themselves for the emperors honour.
Ah indeed, if only so many more had died just so that drinkypoo could be right when he says that only one atomic bomb needed to be dropped.
Dropping the second showed that it wasn't a one off and threatened many more (even though the larder was almost bare).
But drinkypoo has his magic crystal ball that gives him omniscient powers... Well that's what he thinks anyway.
So, The U.S. dropped 2 nukes on Japan in the 1940s to stop Japan when they started producing cars that began to take market share from U.S. carmakers in the early 70s?!?! Even tongue in cheek this is just too stupid to be an american comment. It's just a Putinbot using his spare time to try and make americans look bad.
Looks like I'm going to have to change my/. filtering rules. Abjectly stupid Anonymous Cowards are just becoming too common.
So Chinese EVs come with hundreds of square feet of solar panels on top? Or just with really long extension cords so that they can stay plugged in to the fixed solar panel installations?
The major choke point for EVs is battery production. Much like Volvo's pronouncement that they will be quickly moving to EVs it's meaningless unless they also detail what improvements they are making to battery production -- like Tesla and Daimler have.
The problem being that they only make "ones" and not tens of thousands of them.
Actually, I think that this is in large part a back-door measure to reduce the number of cars sold overall in China to reduce the pression on both air quality and roadway congestion that are both endemic in china. By aggressively eliminating IC engined vehicules from their market they can kill multiple birds with one stone while not breaking WTO rules. Of course as their automakers are also newcomers they won't have the retooling costs that everyone else (excepting Tesla) are going to have.
No. China has no advantage in battery production as there are many producers around the world with better tech than Chinese producers and China produces but 2000 tonnes of lithium per year which is dwarfed by Australia, Chile & Argentina which together produce 34000 tonnes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Yeah yeah, it's all a plot against RUSSIAN interests. Because RUSSIAN interests are the important part, not that Assad and his father gencide all opposition like that which swept through much of the Arab world. Nor that the Ukraine after decades of Russian domination could look west and see a brighter future with the west than with Putins kleptocracy. Because RUSSIAN interests are so much more important than auto determination - except when it serves RUSSIAN interests - then it's OK.
The thing about the RUSSIAN point of view is how it's always about RUSSIA with absolutely no thought to the rest of the world
Define "norm". I've worked in some pretty varied environments including language schools, AI workshops, factories, fashion & tourism. "norm" is all over the place and in places like language schools, fashion and tourism where gays are a majority of the men, comments on some extravagant clothing can be more than a bit off color -- oooohh sexism... but it's not, because this is France, not the U.S.
Was working in those environments a problem for me even when when being on the receiving end of more than a few innuendos from men & women? No. Redress was available for cases where comments devolved into harassment but NOT for simple complements or a bit of ribbing the way it has become in the U.S.
I'm not talking about or influenced by the feminizi in college (never went to college in the U.S. so I never met her), i'm referring to your fear of having what we here in europe consider normal workplace relations between men & women -- but thanks for revealing what seems to have been a factor in how _you_ think that workplace relations must be - colourless, sexless and where nobody can say that "(s)he hurt my feelings". The wave of PC gender police forcibly neutering and thereby diminishing the scope of male-female workplace relations thankfully never took hold in France and describing our more vibrant intersex workplace cultures to americans has become like describing colours to the blind. You have been taught well by the PC gender police and cannot conceptualise that anything else can be normal or acceptable.
So, Macron is a nutjob? Must be for desiring an older woman who, HORRORS, was once his HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER as in the U.S. one or both of them would have gone to jail and both would have received life-long sex offender status. Here? It's not an issue and they are happily married.
Assad's treatment of his internal opposition (gas/exterminate them all) and fomenting of Daesh to blacken his opponents directly leading to their seizing control of much or Iraq had more than a little to do with Syria becoming a target -- and yet, unlike Russia the U.S. has only targeted Daesh & not people trying just to unseat that maniac Assad.
When even an innocuous appreciative but not lecherly comment comment like "nice dress" on the one day a co-worker wears something particularly attractive is deemed sexual harassment, the movement has gone too far.
Whether that's harassment depends. Do you also compliment your male co-workers when they dress nicely? If your female co-worker indicates that she's uncomfortable with the compliment (even non-verbally), do you stop saying such things?
I can and do indeed compliment my co-workers appearance whether male or female and without fear of overbearing PC considerations, but then I've been living in France for 30 years. The bullshit where it's not what you say but how someone chooses to hear it never took root here, thankfully.
Does that mean that I can be a knuckledragging cad with my comments? No and there are penalties here for true harassment -- but not for the overbearing PC workplace environment that has become prevalent in the U.S. and that is mocked by my co-workers both male and female. As I'm the only American this and other American excesses come up regularly.
If the answers to either of those questions is "no", then yes, it's harassment, and that has nothing to do with any "movement".
How amusing that you're so deep inside the PC police state that you cannot even see it. Innocuous comments and even more so, an off color remark is only harassment and sufficient cause for a lawsuit in the U.S & less so in the U.K. Here, the PC gender police do not have the upper hand so it needs to be much more systematic.
I've counselled a few co-workers through some harassment. For one, a co-worker with whom innocent flirting was second nature (& a joy to be around) was harassed by a knuckledragger who refused to accept that flirting!=desire that his continued hitting on her and increasingly explicit sexual innuendos were unwanted which led to his spreading rumours that she was sleeping around. THAT was harassment & I'm proud to say that he lost his job in part thanks to my testimony.
Oh yeah but you go ahead and label "nice dress" harassment... If it wasn't so sad, it'd be funny.
Trump's election does not change the generations long movement to political correctness that has taken over in the U.S.'s corporate culture.
Trump was NOT my choice for president & I am all for sexual equality and an end to harassment in the workplace.
When even an innocuous appreciative but not lecherly comment comment like "nice dress" on the one day a co-worker wears something particularly attractive is deemed sexual harassment, the movement has gone too far.
Yeah, yeah, keep pointing to the exceptions and strive to make people believe that ALL athletes/VC execs/geeks are sexual predators.
Reasoning through absurdities just proves that you're very bad at reasoning. I've lived on 3 continents and visited 5 but that has little to do with my drive to see mankind explore and colonize the solar system.
Your argument that Mars is the "ultimate explorers destination" is also pitifully weak as a greater even more widespread dream is visiting other stars but that is far beyond our capacities. Mars, isn't as with the progress in launchers we are on the cusp of visiting and even colonizing Mars.
However it is true that many basement dwelling cheetos munching ACs such as yourself cannot see beyond their creature comforts to see the draw that living on another planet has for many of us.
Indeed. if those who discover iOS flaws refuse to give/sell them to Apple then there is _no_ white in their hats and they are blackhats with no redeemable features.
I subsequently took a closer look at the SNAP-10A design by following the rURL in the extract (I know, I know, actually reading of TFAs, the horrors...).
Snap-10A used a subcritical core that they brought to criticality by positioning beryllium Neutron reflectors and adding a Sodium-Potassium moderator. This all produced heat that was used to power a thermocouple.
I assume that shutting it down was by repositioning the reflectors. Once no longer critical the moderator would have cooled to the point the moderator would solidify in & around the core. micrometeorites may have damaged the surrounding satellite but I really doubt that the core has been exposed and degraded.
The uranium half life is long enough that I doubt that it has degraded to unusability (it's planned critical lifetime was cut short by external factors after all) but recovering it is clearly more expensive than it's worth.
Some of us are intent on leaving our parents the basement (the earth) as not all exploration and/or interactions can be performed remotely. Should you be one of those pretexting that "it's too expensive and useless", then I reply that so are many other domains in which we spend so muck more: Cosmetics, recreational drugs, etc. I won't stop you from your face creams and getting high/drunk all the time, now move out of the way and let me and those like me move onto exploring and then colonizing other areas in the Solar system.
Research & exploration are NASAs main missions and there is a need for around 500Kw in order to produce Methane & O2 for return flights from Mars that would be difficult to produce otherwise (at least on initial missions).
Spending billions on ILS launchers that have no mission is insanity (though Nasa spends the money it's the Senate that directs them to do so and micromanages the budget so that they must spread it around all 50 states).
It's interesting that the SNAP-10A is still up there as almost all opposition to the use of reactors in space is "What it it crashes on launch" by people that refuse to believe that we can build containment vessels sufficient to not spill the reactants even after a failed launch. I wonder, given that SNAP-10A is already in orbit, and didn't stop working due to any fault of the reactor itself whether it's fuel could be recovered to power a modern reactor. Probably not as it certainly wasn't engineered to to be disassembled easily, especially in space and things like vacuum welding may be an issue but it'd be a great hack if they could.
The battery shortage is a well known choke point in the large scale production of electric vehicles that you cannot remove by waving your hands and saying "they're serious people, these guys from Volvo, I'm sure they've thought about the problem".
Both Tesla & Daimler have addressed the problem by revealing their plans for procuring the necessary batteries. Why not Volvo?
Volvo could make an announcement claiming that they would be powering their future vehicles with antimatter and I would be just as skeptical. Until you or Volvo come up with a plausible source for all the batteries they will be needing their announcement their plan to build a significant number of electric vehicles cannot be taken seriously.
The announcement is meaningless as far as all battery cars are concerned. Before making announcements on building a significant number of all electric cars, Volvo needs to figure out where they will be buying these batteries as supply is just too short to just wave their hands and hope to buy them on a barely existent open market.
No need for a penis to be involved for someone to be condemned for rape. Fingers, toes and tongues are sufficient as the defining characteristic is penetration.
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"you think"... well then, there's the problem. Were China to be seriously moving to EVs over IC vehicles at the close to equvalent production levels they would be addressing EV's production choke point: batteries. Seen any stories about their answer to Tesla's & Daimler's battery manufacturing plans? No, me neither.
I never thought nor claimed that you were the first to perform your acts of hindsight and revisionism (and am thus not the target of your charming potty mouth) but that doesn't change my opinion of those who snarkily divorce themselves from the realities of the times and judge acts taken as poor while dismissing acts untaken as somehow better without any proof beyond their opinioin.
That's why my comments on your revisionism concerned your flippant dismissal of the deaths of all those who certainly would have died had that other path been taken.
But that magical crystal ball of yours gives you the certitude that your revisionism is free of any unwanted secondary effects and leaves you so very high up on that imaginary high ground you imagine that you live upon.
China had but 15% of lithium automobile battery production in 2014, less than Japan with 37%, Korea with 24% and the U.S. with 19%. With Tesla's Gigafactory coming online U.S. production will be making a massive jump without an answering jump from China.
Sorry, as english clearly isn't your mother tongue you missed the sarcasm. I agree that the smog is a huge problem and if you read back I've been arguing that forcing a move to EVs is a backhand way to diminish vehicle purchases -- because they are very unlikely to be available for purchase in the numbers IC vehicles are.
Thus, specifying all new vehicles MUST be EVs would indeed relieve congestion.
Thanks however for correcting me on the brown-outs.
"China for many years" not have such dense life threatening smog and hoped to build enough roads to accept the new cars... But now the smog is getting headlines around the world, road construction is recognised to have failed at keeping up and people spend hours in traffic. So, my idea that forcing EVs is a way out.
Electrical generation is not an issue. They have a handle on producing enough electricity even through an economic explosion and have been moving to cleaner sources faster than the west (not hard given how many poorly filtered coal plants they were building up to a few years ago).
The biggest challenge for widespread development of EVs is battery production.
"most products" != batteries.
If only _your_ forefathers had been among the >2million predicted armed forces casualties in allied forces needed to subjugate Japan or among the tens of millions of Japanese that would have sacrificed themselves for the emperors honour.
Ah indeed, if only so many more had died just so that drinkypoo could be right when he says that only one atomic bomb needed to be dropped.
Dropping the second showed that it wasn't a one off and threatened many more (even though the larder was almost bare).
But drinkypoo has his magic crystal ball that gives him omniscient powers... Well that's what he thinks anyway.
So, The U.S. dropped 2 nukes on Japan in the 1940s to stop Japan when they started producing cars that began to take market share from U.S. carmakers in the early 70s?!?! Even tongue in cheek this is just too stupid to be an american comment. It's just a Putinbot using his spare time to try and make americans look bad.
Looks like I'm going to have to change my /. filtering rules. Abjectly stupid Anonymous Cowards are just becoming too common.
So Chinese EVs come with hundreds of square feet of solar panels on top?
Or just with really long extension cords so that they can stay plugged in to the fixed solar panel installations?
The major choke point for EVs is battery production. Much like Volvo's pronouncement that they will be quickly moving to EVs it's meaningless unless they also detail what improvements they are making to battery production -- like Tesla and Daimler have.
The problem being that they only make "ones" and not tens of thousands of them.
Actually, I think that this is in large part a back-door measure to reduce the number of cars sold overall in China to reduce the pression on both air quality and roadway congestion that are both endemic in china. By aggressively eliminating IC engined vehicules from their market they can kill multiple birds with one stone while not breaking WTO rules. Of course as their automakers are also newcomers they won't have the retooling costs that everyone else (excepting Tesla) are going to have.
No. China has no advantage in battery production as there are many producers around the world with better tech than Chinese producers and China produces but 2000 tonnes of lithium per year which is dwarfed by Australia, Chile & Argentina which together produce 34000 tonnes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"lifetime concierge-on-demand service": So how is that "lifetime" service doing now that they have shut down?
Yeah yeah, it's all a plot against RUSSIAN interests. Because RUSSIAN interests are the important part, not that Assad and his father gencide all opposition like that which swept through much of the Arab world. Nor that the Ukraine after decades of Russian domination could look west and see a brighter future with the west than with Putins kleptocracy. Because RUSSIAN interests are so much more important than auto determination - except when it serves RUSSIAN interests - then it's OK.
The thing about the RUSSIAN point of view is how it's always about RUSSIA with absolutely no thought to the rest of the world
Define "norm". I've worked in some pretty varied environments including language schools, AI workshops, factories, fashion & tourism. "norm" is all over the place and in places like language schools, fashion and tourism where gays are a majority of the men, comments on some extravagant clothing can be more than a bit off color -- oooohh sexism... but it's not, because this is France, not the U.S.
Was working in those environments a problem for me even when when being on the receiving end of more than a few innuendos from men & women? No. Redress was available for cases where comments devolved into harassment but NOT for simple complements or a bit of ribbing the way it has become in the U.S.
I'm not talking about or influenced by the feminizi in college (never went to college in the U.S. so I never met her), i'm referring to your fear of having what we here in europe consider normal workplace relations between men & women -- but thanks for revealing what seems to have been a factor in how _you_ think that workplace relations must be - colourless, sexless and where nobody can say that "(s)he hurt my feelings". The wave of PC gender police forcibly neutering and thereby diminishing the scope of male-female workplace relations thankfully never took hold in France and describing our more vibrant intersex workplace cultures to americans has become like describing colours to the blind. You have been taught well by the PC gender police and cannot conceptualise that anything else can be normal or acceptable.
So, Macron is a nutjob? Must be for desiring an older woman who, HORRORS, was once his HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER as in the U.S. one or both of them would have gone to jail and both would have received life-long sex offender status. Here? It's not an issue and they are happily married.
Assad's treatment of his internal opposition (gas/exterminate them all) and fomenting of Daesh to blacken his opponents directly leading to their seizing control of much or Iraq had more than a little to do with Syria becoming a target -- and yet, unlike Russia the U.S. has only targeted Daesh & not people trying just to unseat that maniac Assad.
When even an innocuous appreciative but not lecherly comment comment like "nice dress" on the one day a co-worker wears something particularly attractive is deemed sexual harassment, the movement has gone too far.
Whether that's harassment depends. Do you also compliment your male co-workers when they dress nicely? If your female co-worker indicates that she's uncomfortable with the compliment (even non-verbally), do you stop saying such things?
I can and do indeed compliment my co-workers appearance whether male or female and without fear of overbearing PC considerations, but then I've been living in France for 30 years. The bullshit where it's not what you say but how someone chooses to hear it never took root here, thankfully.
Does that mean that I can be a knuckledragging cad with my comments? No and there are penalties here for true harassment -- but not for the overbearing PC workplace environment that has become prevalent in the U.S. and that is mocked by my co-workers both male and female. As I'm the only American this and other American excesses come up regularly.
If the answers to either of those questions is "no", then yes, it's harassment, and that has nothing to do with any "movement".
How amusing that you're so deep inside the PC police state that you cannot even see it. Innocuous comments and even more so, an off color remark is only harassment and sufficient cause for a lawsuit in the U.S & less so in the U.K. Here, the PC gender police do not have the upper hand so it needs to be much more systematic.
I've counselled a few co-workers through some harassment. For one, a co-worker with whom innocent flirting was second nature (& a joy to be around) was harassed by a knuckledragger who refused to accept that flirting!=desire that his continued hitting on her and increasingly explicit sexual innuendos were unwanted which led to his spreading rumours that she was sleeping around. THAT was harassment & I'm proud to say that he lost his job in part thanks to my testimony.
Oh yeah but you go ahead and label "nice dress" harassment... If it wasn't so sad, it'd be funny.
Oh puhleese...
Trump's election does not change the generations long movement to political correctness that has taken over in the U.S.'s corporate culture.
Trump was NOT my choice for president & I am all for sexual equality and an end to harassment in the workplace.
When even an innocuous appreciative but not lecherly comment comment like "nice dress" on the one day a co-worker wears something particularly attractive is deemed sexual harassment, the movement has gone too far.
Yeah, yeah, keep pointing to the exceptions and strive to make people believe that ALL athletes/VC execs/geeks are sexual predators.
Reasoning through absurdities just proves that you're very bad at reasoning. I've lived on 3 continents and visited 5 but that has little to do with my drive to see mankind explore and colonize the solar system.
Your argument that Mars is the "ultimate explorers destination" is also pitifully weak as a greater even more widespread dream is visiting other stars but that is far beyond our capacities. Mars, isn't as with the progress in launchers we are on the cusp of visiting and even colonizing Mars.
However it is true that many basement dwelling cheetos munching ACs such as yourself cannot see beyond their creature comforts to see the draw that living on another planet has for many of us.
Indeed. if those who discover iOS flaws refuse to give/sell them to Apple then there is _no_ white in their hats and they are blackhats with no redeemable features.
I subsequently took a closer look at the SNAP-10A design by following the rURL in the extract (I know, I know, actually reading of TFAs, the horrors...).
Snap-10A used a subcritical core that they brought to criticality by positioning beryllium Neutron reflectors and adding a Sodium-Potassium moderator. This all produced heat that was used to power a thermocouple.
I assume that shutting it down was by repositioning the reflectors. Once no longer critical the moderator would have cooled to the point the moderator would solidify in & around the core. micrometeorites may have damaged the surrounding satellite but I really doubt that the core has been exposed and degraded.
The uranium half life is long enough that I doubt that it has degraded to unusability (it's planned critical lifetime was cut short by external factors after all) but recovering it is clearly more expensive than it's worth.
Hello sheldonbot.
Some of us are intent on leaving our parents the basement (the earth) as not all exploration and/or interactions can be performed remotely. Should you be one of those pretexting that "it's too expensive and useless", then I reply that so are many other domains in which we spend so muck more: Cosmetics, recreational drugs, etc. I won't stop you from your face creams and getting high/drunk all the time, now move out of the way and let me and those like me move onto exploring and then colonizing other areas in the Solar system.
Research & exploration are NASAs main missions and there is a need for around 500Kw in order to produce Methane & O2 for return flights from Mars that would be difficult to produce otherwise (at least on initial missions).
Spending billions on ILS launchers that have no mission is insanity (though Nasa spends the money it's the Senate that directs them to do so and micromanages the budget so that they must spread it around all 50 states).
It's interesting that the SNAP-10A is still up there as almost all opposition to the use of reactors in space is "What it it crashes on launch" by people that refuse to believe that we can build containment vessels sufficient to not spill the reactants even after a failed launch. I wonder, given that SNAP-10A is already in orbit, and didn't stop working due to any fault of the reactor itself whether it's fuel could be recovered to power a modern reactor. Probably not as it certainly wasn't engineered to to be disassembled easily, especially in space and things like vacuum welding may be an issue but it'd be a great hack if they could.
The battery shortage is a well known choke point in the large scale production of electric vehicles that you cannot remove by waving your hands and saying "they're serious people, these guys from Volvo, I'm sure they've thought about the problem".
Both Tesla & Daimler have addressed the problem by revealing their plans for procuring the necessary batteries. Why not Volvo?
Volvo could make an announcement claiming that they would be powering their future vehicles with antimatter and I would be just as skeptical. Until you or Volvo come up with a plausible source for all the batteries they will be needing their announcement their plan to build a significant number of electric vehicles cannot be taken seriously.
The announcement is meaningless as far as all battery cars are concerned. Before making announcements on building a significant number of all electric cars, Volvo needs to figure out where they will be buying these batteries as supply is just too short to just wave their hands and hope to buy them on a barely existent open market.
No need for a penis to be involved for someone to be condemned for rape. Fingers, toes and tongues are sufficient as the defining characteristic is penetration.