Re:What do you think the surface is like?
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Methane on Mars?
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You did miss the point. The constraints of environment quite easily limit exponential growth. If an organism replicates once per century, in an environment that it can barely survive in, it may barely be able to break even, population wise. And as person you replied to points out, probably most of the planet is severely lacking in the requisites for life.
And anyway, replicating once per century is not going to take over a planet any time soon, even assuming no loss of bacterial life, given when the first probes arrived on Mars.
Exponential growth is a best-case situation. In a harsh environment, bacteria replicate very slowly. It isn't the same, but studies of bacteria living far underground offer a good example. They are starved, tiny. Often less than a thousandth the size of a normal bacteria. Their metabolism is so slow that according to Sci Am they may have an average frequency of cell division of once a *century* or even less. Mars is even less hospitable. Far colder, far less water, and hardly more nutrients.
It seems to me that if you're going to believe we managed that with the probes it also seems just as likely one could argue for earth bacteria having made it there long ago on meteors.
Fortunately, we libertarians for the most part also believe in a court system to allow people protection and compensation from harm. But you're right. OSHA and EPA both offer corporations protection so long as they follow the rules.
Eliminating these agencies would allow people to sue for damages in a court of law.
Hm. Will have to recheck that at work. We are running Oracle 9i and I assure you queries were *breaking* that we tried to do left joins on.
We ended up just handling it in code. As for the slice thing, the other respondant is exactly right. And that's a very handy thing to do. But yes, Oracle *does* let you limit a query, which can be made to work similarly depending on circumstances and your patience.
The features you mention are now available in 4.1 - they were never a priority since they are easily handled in code. Granted, subselects save on network traffic (although it seems to me it can also be done a little more clunkily with TEMPORARY tables).
Don't see where you see this distinction between real-time and static data in MySQL, but until you're more specific about the host of Oracle features, I still won't know.
I, on the other hand, am still annoyed that Oracle doesn't allow taking a slice of a result set and still can't do outer/left/right joins in a standard fashion.
I'm sure they are just referring to the scale between things. Unlike, say, Ultima where cities were a short walk apart. Running from New York to San Francisco would take a while.
Sure. But when put that way Atkins isn't nearly as revolutionary as it makes itself out to be. People have been talking of cutting carbs, especially simple carbs, for years. That doesn't suddenly make fat good for you.
You joke, but... "Changing the body's metabolism is high on that list. People have always been able to burn fats instead of carbohydrates for short periods -- that's what the popular Atkins Diet is all about. But doing this for extended periods can produce toxins and can dial down the amount of energy the brain receives. DARPA wants to see if there are ways to burn fats without the side effects."
If they can succeed, it would actually be a viable Atkins. The lead supporters of Atkins don't use the diet as many of their fans do. They advocate a low carbohydrate, especially avoiding simple carbohydrate diet, and eating plenty of vegetables and protein. Essentially the same as what many others have been saying. Heck, your average vegan who's concerned about Atkins should note he gets his protein/fat from nuts while they get it from meat (usually). One could be a vegan Atkins dieter. Unfortunately, Atkins proponents seem to have a dual message going on, and some people think the diet is nothing more than scarfing down steaks.
I have in fact heard about this before. I don't have any references though, sorry. I'm sure it will happen eventually.
You might ask the Blackdown people. I believe while they require developers to attest they haven't seen Sun's Java source, they will accept advice from those who have. I could be wrong, but worth asking.
The two layer approach doesn't really require the person not know how to write C/C++ - only that they not contribute any code. Not certain why parent added that extra requirement.
"I hope they get some support for Win9x drivers too" Sorry, I misread that opening statement as stating there was no support for Win95 drivers.
And as for better NTFS support, I've linked you to an alternative that allows complete read/write - aren't you happy?:)
Re:WINE Windows Driver Support
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WineConf 2004 Wrapup
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Oh, no prob. If Windows does it, should be a snap for those Linux boys. So, you wouldn't happen to have an NTFS spec handy? Maybe you could get one from MS? So far, I consider Linux reading NTFS and writing verrrry carefully without changing number of blocks a file uses to be impressive given it is all reverse engineering. But hey. There's a solution, maybe you remember seeing this posted on/., multiple times? NTFS full write
Oh, and btw, WINE does work with 95 too. Check your configs and documentation.
This is not going to work linked from/. - you folks will just have to copy and paste it. http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1 83863
Anyway, that bug was filed a while ago. Multiple offers to Yahoo! have gone out to help them write their JavaScript to make it compatible with both browsers in a similar fashion to htmlArea (check out the sourceforge project).
They haven't responded. Perhaps more complaints might help from paying customers, ideally.
erm... "reenergize" ? Is this based upon that magic belief some people have that there is a vital force without which there is no life?
Freezing and unfreezing embryos is routine. Cells can be frozen and their chemistry just start up again. More complex things need to be warmed evenly, and other complications, but it isn't as insurmountable as your average vitalist would think.
Modern cryonics uses a sophisticated combination of chemicals and rapid cooling to achieve vitrification of the brain. This is exactly what it sounds like. Water is cooled rapidly and with inhibitors to get right past the danger range where crystalization occurs and down into the nice safe ranges of a couple of hundred degrees below 0 (centigrade, fahrenheit, whatever, I'm being all approximate anyway).
They've been getting really good at this, modern methods improving the amount that can be flash-frozen at once by freezing inside and outside of your basic frozen head simultaneously.
I'm not pinning my personal hopes on cryonics, but good to know it is getting better.
Simple HTML mode in Mozilla Mail is quite nice. You still get basic HTML formatting (tables, bolding, italics, lines longer than 72 chars) but everything else gets stripped.
Been watching Futurama again? Then they'll have to assemble all the robots onto one island to exterminate them for pumping out greenhouse gases until they are saved by an eccentric scientist and his team of delivery entities.
curmudgeon. Officially the client of choice at work is Outlook, I use Mozilla Mail for those reasons. Simple HTML - my favourite mode. Allows basic markup like table structure and bold/italicize, and that's about it.
Like it would be so hard for a group with dubious credentials to acquire a cert. Browsers don't prompt usually so long as the cert is up to date, and from an official cert authority. Who's going to inspect and notice it wasn't issued to the right corporation? Well, hopefully any paranoid IE user, for now.
If you want to guarantee everything gets indexed, might I recommend WebGlimpse? Running off of Glimpse, absolutely everything you haven't masked on the site will get an entry in its database, whether it is linked or not. HtDig just follows links.
WebGlimpse is fast, open source, free for non-commercial use and has support for filtering a number of file formats to extract the data.
Quirks mode *does* try to copy a lot of IE and old Netscape broken behaviour. And they are continually discovering new things. Occasionally some of them get fixed. It just is a long hard slog, and slows things down a lot, both in development and rendering. I can't blame them for not catching them all. One stupid one I remember. <ul><li></li>li content<li></li> li content</ul>
And someone was complaining about Mozilla rendering... Sure stuff like this can be fixed, but it results in a lot of special cases. And is the effort really worth the often minor incompatibilities?
Also, I think you were off in your usage statistics by about 6 orders of magnitude;) Usage stats seem to vary at between 1 and 15%, depending on what stats website you check. I imagine the real figure is probably a bit over 5% - not horrible, and certainly worth considering if you are a commercial site. Especially since bizaare HTML can cause problems for you yourself later in maintenance and varying IE versions.
And to further simplify. "which means not having any UI in a service unless you know what you're doing"
Simply because you would in fact have to catch any message that comes in. What do you do if the message you don't handle is handled by the parent class in an unexpected fashion? The fact that events can come from any process, without checking of priveleges by the OS, and that these events could be triggered by code you did not write seems to be a problem. Yes, the solution is not to have the UI, but that isn't much of one, and still isn't the common solution.
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You did miss the point.
The constraints of environment quite easily limit exponential growth.
If an organism replicates once per century, in an environment that it can barely survive in, it may barely be able to break even, population wise.
And as person you replied to points out, probably most of the planet is severely lacking in the requisites for life.
And anyway, replicating once per century is not going to take over a planet any time soon, even assuming no loss of bacterial life, given when the first probes arrived on Mars.
Exponential growth is a best-case situation. In a harsh environment, bacteria replicate very slowly.
It isn't the same, but studies of bacteria living far underground offer a good example. They are starved, tiny. Often less than a thousandth the size of a normal bacteria. Their metabolism is so slow that according to Sci Am they may have an average frequency of cell division of once a *century* or even less.
Mars is even less hospitable. Far colder, far less water, and hardly more nutrients.
It seems to me that if you're going to believe we managed that with the probes it also seems just as likely one could argue for earth bacteria having made it there long ago on meteors.
Fortunately, we libertarians for the most part also believe in a court system to allow people protection and compensation from harm.
But you're right. OSHA and EPA both offer corporations protection so long as they follow the rules.
Eliminating these agencies would allow people to sue for damages in a court of law.
Just one mouse in my config. But I *did* find that mouse was moving a lot faster in X. But then, *everything* was more responsive with 2.6.
Hm. Will have to recheck that at work. We are running Oracle 9i and I assure you queries were *breaking* that we tried to do left joins on.
We ended up just handling it in code.
As for the slice thing, the other respondant is exactly right. And that's a very handy thing to do.
But yes, Oracle *does* let you limit a query, which can be made to work similarly depending on circumstances and your patience.
The features you mention are now available in 4.1 - they were never a priority since they are easily handled in code.
Granted, subselects save on network traffic (although it seems to me it can also be done a little more clunkily with TEMPORARY tables).
Don't see where you see this distinction between real-time and static data in MySQL, but until you're more specific about the host of Oracle features, I still won't know.
I, on the other hand, am still annoyed that Oracle doesn't allow taking a slice of a result set and still can't do outer/left/right joins in a standard fashion.
I'm sure they are just referring to the scale between things.
Unlike, say, Ultima where cities were a short walk apart.
Running from New York to San Francisco would take a while.
Sure. But when put that way Atkins isn't nearly as revolutionary as it makes itself out to be. People have been talking of cutting carbs, especially simple carbs, for years.
That doesn't suddenly make fat good for you.
You joke, but...
"Changing the body's metabolism is high on that list. People have always been able to burn fats instead of carbohydrates for short periods -- that's what the popular Atkins Diet is all about. But doing this for extended periods can produce toxins and can dial down the amount of energy the brain receives. DARPA wants to see if there are ways to burn fats without the side effects."
If they can succeed, it would actually be a viable Atkins.
The lead supporters of Atkins don't use the diet as many of their fans do. They advocate a low carbohydrate, especially avoiding simple carbohydrate diet, and eating plenty of vegetables and protein. Essentially the same as what many others have been saying. Heck, your average vegan who's concerned about Atkins should note he gets his protein/fat from nuts while they get it from meat (usually). One could be a vegan Atkins dieter.
Unfortunately, Atkins proponents seem to have a dual message going on, and some people think the diet is nothing more than scarfing down steaks.
I have in fact heard about this before.
I don't have any references though, sorry.
I'm sure it will happen eventually.
You might ask the Blackdown people. I believe while they require developers to attest they haven't seen Sun's Java source, they will accept advice from those who have.
I could be wrong, but worth asking.
The two layer approach doesn't really require the person not know how to write C/C++ - only that they not contribute any code.
Not certain why parent added that extra requirement.
"I hope they get some support for Win9x drivers too"
:)
Sorry, I misread that opening statement as stating there was no support for Win95 drivers.
And as for better NTFS support, I've linked you to an alternative that allows complete read/write - aren't you happy?
Oh, no prob. If Windows does it, should be a snap for those Linux boys. /., multiple times?
So, you wouldn't happen to have an NTFS spec handy? Maybe you could get one from MS?
So far, I consider Linux reading NTFS and writing verrrry carefully without changing number of blocks a file uses to be impressive given it is all reverse engineering.
But hey. There's a solution, maybe you remember seeing this posted on
NTFS full write
Oh, and btw, WINE does work with 95 too. Check your configs and documentation.
This is not going to work linked from /. - you folks will just have to copy and paste it.1 83863
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=
Anyway, that bug was filed a while ago. Multiple offers to Yahoo! have gone out to help them write their JavaScript to make it compatible with both browsers in a similar fashion to htmlArea (check out the sourceforge project).
They haven't responded. Perhaps more complaints might help from paying customers, ideally.
erm... "reenergize" ?
Is this based upon that magic belief some people have that there is a vital force without which there is no life?
Freezing and unfreezing embryos is routine. Cells can be frozen and their chemistry just start up again.
More complex things need to be warmed evenly, and other complications, but it isn't as insurmountable as your average vitalist would think.
Modern cryonics uses a sophisticated combination of chemicals and rapid cooling to achieve vitrification of the brain. This is exactly what it sounds like. Water is cooled rapidly and with inhibitors to get right past the danger range where crystalization occurs and down into the nice safe ranges of a couple of hundred degrees below 0 (centigrade, fahrenheit, whatever, I'm being all approximate anyway).
They've been getting really good at this, modern methods improving the amount that can be flash-frozen at once by freezing inside and outside of your basic frozen head simultaneously.
I'm not pinning my personal hopes on cryonics, but good to know it is getting better.
Simple HTML mode in Mozilla Mail is quite nice.
:)
You still get basic HTML formatting (tables, bolding, italics, lines longer than 72 chars) but everything else gets stripped.
But yeah, I use pine too
Been watching Futurama again?
Then they'll have to assemble all the robots onto one island to exterminate them for pumping out greenhouse gases until they are saved by an eccentric scientist and his team of delivery entities.
curmudgeon.
Officially the client of choice at work is Outlook, I use Mozilla Mail for those reasons. Simple HTML - my favourite mode. Allows basic markup like table structure and bold/italicize, and that's about it.
Like it would be so hard for a group with dubious credentials to acquire a cert. Browsers don't prompt usually so long as the cert is up to date, and from an official cert authority.
Who's going to inspect and notice it wasn't issued to the right corporation?
Well, hopefully any paranoid IE user, for now.
If you want to guarantee everything gets indexed, might I recommend WebGlimpse?
Running off of Glimpse, absolutely everything you haven't masked on the site will get an entry in its database, whether it is linked or not. HtDig just follows links.
WebGlimpse is fast, open source, free for non-commercial use and has support for filtering a number of file formats to extract the data.
I assume this is a joke, although the moderators seem uncertain.
Google gave you a relevant response to your request.
The system works!
Quirks mode *does* try to copy a lot of IE and old Netscape broken behaviour.
;)
And they are continually discovering new things. Occasionally some of them get fixed. It just is a long hard slog, and slows things down a lot, both in development and rendering. I can't blame them for not catching them all.
One stupid one I remember.
<ul><li></li>li content<li></li> li content</ul>
And someone was complaining about Mozilla rendering... Sure stuff like this can be fixed, but it results in a lot of special cases. And is the effort really worth the often minor incompatibilities?
Also, I think you were off in your usage statistics by about 6 orders of magnitude
Usage stats seem to vary at between 1 and 15%, depending on what stats website you check. I imagine the real figure is probably a bit over 5% - not horrible, and certainly worth considering if you are a commercial site. Especially since bizaare HTML can cause problems for you yourself later in maintenance and varying IE versions.
Ban cocktail napkins!
And to further simplify.
"which means not having any UI in a service unless you know what you're doing"
Simply because you would in fact have to catch any message that comes in.
What do you do if the message you don't handle is handled by the parent class in an unexpected fashion?
The fact that events can come from any process, without checking of priveleges by the OS, and that these events could be triggered by code you did not write seems to be a problem.
Yes, the solution is not to have the UI, but that isn't much of one, and still isn't the common solution.