Well.. a respect for human life, a respect for your fellow man, a respect for the fact that we are all equal..
I'm the child of a pair of baby boomers, and I have all these. And amazingly, I'm not even religious in the slightest. (I only point this out as many would cite religion as the 'best' way to instil morals)
There's no easy answer. And people hate that, they want easy answers, in the form of Ridilin (sp?) or a new government agenda. It's not an easy task to reform the basic morals of a nation. I just hope a downward spiral doesn't come of this all.
Maybe I should be clearer. I don't think that guns should just disappear, because that's just wishful thinking. However, just because they've been invented doesn't mean everyone suddenly needs one. If I recall, we've 'invented' a variety of people killers: nerve gas, nukes, sporks.. Does that mean I should have a small canister of Sarin in my closet 'just in case?'
You're right, people aren't nice. But bad people who exist in a society where guns aren't a social norm are less likely to use them. Why do you think guns are so prevalent in the states? They're in the social structure, in the Constitution, they play a role in politics through groups like the NRA. But the fact is that this isn't what SHOULD be.
Yes, if guns were outlawed, they'd still be purchased. The guns don't need to go, the people's belief that they need guns does. I agree with your last point, the mentality is wrong.
What's your point? Guns kill people. Rocks kill people, but that's not what they were 'invented' for. Baseball bats kill people too, but it's not exactly a trivial matter to kill 20 or 30 people in the space of a few seconds with a baseball bat.
So then tell me what would have happened if these kids had been using knives? Any jackaninny with any martial arts or even fighting experience from a BAR would have taken him down.
Finally, please, tell me why we should have guns. Give me a reason that doesn't insult my intelligence. 'Self Defense' is bullshit. If noone has guns, noone needs to be defended from them. The concept that 'everyone with a gun, noone using one' is as retarted as the concept of Mutally Assured Destruction from the Cold War. Because in the case of guns and life, eventually someone with a gun has nothing to lose. The US/USSR at least had something to lose.
Swiss authorities are becoming more lenient with Swiss bank account information of late. Your safer bets are in the Cayman Islands if you're evading taxes.
I agree 101%. This is an utterly idiotic lawsuit, it's bully tactics. That's what I said in my post.
I just also think that a straight link to mp3 data may as well be the same thing as local mp3's on a server. Now, the scenario you have with like 3 or 4 links to pages to pages, there can't be any responsibility there, it wouldn't make sense.
But think about this: As far as things go, a webpage may as well be a single entitiy. And all the links on that page, no matter where they go, are put there to be accessed. Now, that can't mean like linking creates ownership of data, but in a lot of cases, especially with the ability to change the little bar at the bottom of the browser with JavaScript, how can you tell when you're on one server or another? The links may as well be pointing to local data, it's all the same in the end.
Damn, I wish I had a counter to that. Then again, is it already illegal where you are to tell someone where to get drugs? If I tell you to go to the corner of 3rd and Main to get some weed, that's not illegal anyway.
Ugh, IANAL and it shows. I really don't know what to say. Well at least I can say that if you did tell me where to legally get drugs, it's not like I could bring them back now could I?
GART didn't make it in to the freeze. Anyone following the GLX project (MesaGL acceleration for Matrox, nVidea and now ATI cards) would know that GART is a nifty AGP related thing.
Well maybe we'll do like has happened in the past, convince Linus to add something after the freeze =)
But in the end, linking to illegal things should stay illegal. I mean, if I post illegal mp3's, no matter what anyone says, I am in violation of the law. IP, copyright, whatever. Why should it be fine for someone to link to this data?
The question we should be asking is the extent. It's not easy to draw similar situations though. Is this like the old 'bomb data used to commit a crime' argument? I mean, the original mp3's were illegal. These links are illegal too, they also made public the availability of illegal mp3's.
So despite what anyone wants to think, in the end it IS illegal. I'm sorry to all the/.ers, but you can't post illegal mp3s and expect nothing to happen.
Of course, all that should be happening is the links be asked to be removed and maybe an ISP account be revoked. Lawsuits aren't the answer and are just scare tactics.
Well.. Call this a little Trolly, maybe a little offtopic, but is anyone else slightly irritated at the self-superior tone that RMS has on gnu.org when discussing Linux vs GNU/Linux?
When will he figure out that GNU would be just a few alternate apps for Unix boxen if it weren't for Linux? Of course, there would be no Linux without GNU.
So what's my point? Well maybe it's time RMS took a miss. This is a little like the Chuck the Daemon argument. The people call it Linux. Boo Hoo if that name doesn't give credit to GNU. People still call the BSD daemon Chuck. What's in a name, really?
RMS seriously needs to revise his attitute a little. People might actually take kindly to calling it GNU/Linux if he wasn't yelling so damn loudly. Something he needs to learn is that people who 5 minutes ago didn't care will suddenly be against you if you come on too strong or are rude.
Then again, this press is just bad anyway. But in the end, it's not like this was a product of some people in Boston or whatever. It was a product of the entire Open Source Movement. From a need came a product, and it was Better. In the end though, don't be petty about it.
Actually, as far as B5 goes, the dialog is once again very cookie-cutter.
Sheridan babbling on and on about how his way is right and everyone else is wrong, finishing fights and what not.
Ivonova is just damn hilarious because she gets the comic relief lines (Well, we're screwed - Severed Dreams) but she also has the painful chore of summing up the last 3 episodes every time there's an ongoing series of eps. Think back to The Long Night and all the episodes surrounding that war. Beginning of every episode was her job to give us a plot summary, and it's typically bordering a run-on sentence.
As for other characters, it's a lot like Star Wars for dialog. It's easy to follow, it's quite often funny. While B5 is a step up, you still have to listen to all sorts of inane babble about religions and what not (Delen's lines come to mind)
But if strong dialog made a strong series/following/movie/show/etc then shouldn't these two be a lot less popular? Ditto to Star Trek, there are SO many pure technobabble lines.
I suppose it goes to show that simplicity lies at the heart of good SciFi/Fantasy. In the end, a good vs evil story, characters to identify with, lines that are both corny and funny...
Then again, simplicity is not the case with most Novels. *Shrug* Someone more qualified want to comment?
Well anyone here would say 'Dual P3 doesn't touch this machine, G4's 0wn'
To that I say: I like my x86. Not for Intel. Not for speed. Not for anything like that. But because I love the competition in the market.
On x86's, I can put together a brutal machine with DVD, a Celeron 400, 17" monitor, the tittiest video card (G400 - which I should note doesn't work on the Mac), etc. And this cost me $1800 Canadian.
What does $1800 cdn buy you at the Apple store? Nothing really. For all out KF (Kaboom Factor), the G4 is a godsend. But even then, with the pricetag, it's restricted to either Geeks With Jobs or Geeks With Rich Dads. I'm neither, I'm just a student.
And even more to the point, suppose I bought this nice G4. I want my G400, I'm totally addicted to this thing and it's performance. I'm sure it'd SCREAM with a G4 but no drivers. Ditto to a lot of good hardware like A3D cards, etc..
As a Linux user I've whined about this before, but where's the Hardware support? Anyway, I'm finally done my Apple rant. And I didn't even say they sucked.
Well in theory, someone could be dumber then that.
I mean, I'm allowed to compile a kernel sans ext2.. Anyone that silly deserves a lesson. There would be defaults on.. Just like every kernel tree has defaults. They're just modifiable. I like this idea really.. Even though it only takes me 1 minute to download a whole kernel tree.. Phat Pipe =)
a) a health care system (this alone is SO tounge in cheek that i could die) b) you can legally possess kiddy porn! c) you get to stick your nose up at 'Merikans and travel in Europe happilly with a big maple leaf on your backpack d) your national anthem is easier to remember:-D e) even if you don't know d) you aren't considered unpatriotic
Ok, I'm done now.:-) the preceeding was tounge in cheek. flame to/dev/null cuz it's a JOKE!
Actually, I'd like to see a really cool way to cut down on kernel downloads.. Lord knows this is cpu heavy, but think about it anyway:
User downloads a small chunk of code, runs it. Basically, just the 'menuconfig'. Selects what's good, what's bad. Program goes out and gets the code it needs from a depository (maybe cvs..?), compresses it and downloads.
User ends up not only not needing to download other arch's, but no unneeded sections. User doesn't use IDE? Doesn't download it. Ditto for SCSI, Strange CD-ROM's, V4L, etc.
That initial bit of code wouldn't even need updating, even when the kernel version changes.. Or that selection program could be completely online, a big perl/php/whatever..
Too bad I'm more of an idea rat or I'd do something like this..
Does this statement bother anyone else as much as me? What a double standard.. Lesbians, for whatever reasons, are 'in'.
You only have to look to somone like Ellen of TV fame, and there ya go. Or for some more pop culture, look at Friends. Chandler married a lesbian (or something, I can't stand those shows)
So what makes Lesbianism 'more' socially acceptable? I don't know personally. Is it because guys get off on it? But I'd hate to think that it's JUST the guys that are defining social acceptability.
Maybe it's that pop culture is 'making' it ok. I mean, once it's on Prime Time, it MUST be ok.
Or maybe it was just that Ellen was a good role model or something..? For the life of me, I can't figure it out and it bothers me that such a double standard would exist.
Although for a laugh, look to Japan, where you had gay characters in the TV shows and movies aimed at children. Sailor Moon is a wonderful example. Anyone who's seen the 'Americanized' version would remember Zoicite, the female. Sorry, in the original, she was male. And in love with that other general. Or you get into the later seasons, and bang, you have Michiru and Haruka. Pair of lesbians. Or from the 'R' movie, the antagonist, Fiore was gay.
So maybe as far as morals go, it's very subjective. And now I've gotten into two seperate topics, the double standard, and the subjective morality. Dammit.
#1, as to the bit on 'thought', you obviously seem devoid of it. Regardless of interpretation, there are things called Facts. And in the Article in mention, it is said that these machines are NOT treading on Apple territory. This is a Fact.
Had you read my response carefully and even (gasp) the article itself, you would have noticed the section on how these AREN'T Apple clones. Apple machines use ROM's (or used to anyway).
Calling these machines Apple boxes just because they are PowerPC boxen is like calling every x86 a Windows box. In fact, IBM has been using these chips extensively in their own machines and Apple hasn't gone ballistic yet.
As to your conspiracy theories, Apple is going to take over the world just as quickly as AOL/Sun/Netscape. You are obviously 'blind' to the fact that all Apple is doing is trying to make a business again. I don't agree with how they're doing it, but honestly, you claiming Jobs is going to become Gates is about as founded as someone saying Linus will. Because simply put, the leverage isn't there for it to happen.
And your assumption that I'm an Apple lackey is sorely misplaced. I can't stand Apple. I can't stand the way they make expensive boxen, I can't stand the way they sit on Quicktime codecs. I don't like Apple.
Like it or not, IBM made the specs available to motherboard makers. So Apple can't do SFA (sh*t f*ck all) about it. The only way Apple will crush these as competition is by making OS X either need ROM's or just not work with CHRA. Like MacOS.
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Well.. a respect for human life, a respect for your fellow man, a respect for the fact that we are all equal..
I'm the child of a pair of baby boomers, and I have all these. And amazingly, I'm not even religious in the slightest. (I only point this out as many would cite religion as the 'best' way to instil morals)
There's no easy answer. And people hate that, they want easy answers, in the form of Ridilin (sp?) or a new government agenda. It's not an easy task to reform the basic morals of a nation. I just hope a downward spiral doesn't come of this all.
2 Things:
#1, Absolutely nothing about NT or Linux itself.
#2, A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. In this case, the weakest link was a poor CGI.
So where from here? Lets try it with a better CGI, maybe let everyone see the conf files or something.
Or maybe PC Week should release all the conf files to the cracked box, so the Community can comment on what should/shouldn't be in there.
Maybe I should be clearer. I don't think that guns should just disappear, because that's just wishful thinking. However, just because they've been invented doesn't mean everyone suddenly needs one. If I recall, we've 'invented' a variety of people killers: nerve gas, nukes, sporks.. Does that mean I should have a small canister of Sarin in my closet 'just in case?'
You're right, people aren't nice. But bad people who exist in a society where guns aren't a social norm are less likely to use them. Why do you think guns are so prevalent in the states? They're in the social structure, in the Constitution, they play a role in politics through groups like the NRA. But the fact is that this isn't what SHOULD be.
Yes, if guns were outlawed, they'd still be purchased. The guns don't need to go, the people's belief that they need guns does. I agree with your last point, the mentality is wrong.
What's your point? Guns kill people. Rocks kill people, but that's not what they were 'invented' for. Baseball bats kill people too, but it's not exactly a trivial matter to kill 20 or 30 people in the space of a few seconds with a baseball bat.
So then tell me what would have happened if these kids had been using knives? Any jackaninny with any martial arts or even fighting experience from a BAR would have taken him down.
Finally, please, tell me why we should have guns. Give me a reason that doesn't insult my intelligence. 'Self Defense' is bullshit. If noone has guns, noone needs to be defended from them. The concept that 'everyone with a gun, noone using one' is as retarted as the concept of Mutally Assured Destruction from the Cold War. Because in the case of guns and life, eventually someone with a gun has nothing to lose. The US/USSR at least had something to lose.
Swiss authorities are becoming more lenient with Swiss bank account information of late. Your safer bets are in the Cayman Islands if you're evading taxes.
I agree 101%. This is an utterly idiotic lawsuit, it's bully tactics. That's what I said in my post.
I just also think that a straight link to mp3 data may as well be the same thing as local mp3's on a server. Now, the scenario you have with like 3 or 4 links to pages to pages, there can't be any responsibility there, it wouldn't make sense.
But think about this: As far as things go, a webpage may as well be a single entitiy. And all the links on that page, no matter where they go, are put there to be accessed. Now, that can't mean like linking creates ownership of data, but in a lot of cases, especially with the ability to change the little bar at the bottom of the browser with JavaScript, how can you tell when you're on one server or another? The links may as well be pointing to local data, it's all the same in the end.
Damn, I wish I had a counter to that. Then again, is it already illegal where you are to tell someone where to get drugs? If I tell you to go to the corner of 3rd and Main to get some weed, that's not illegal anyway.
Ugh, IANAL and it shows. I really don't know what to say. Well at least I can say that if you did tell me where to legally get drugs, it's not like I could bring them back now could I?
GART didn't make it in to the freeze. Anyone following the GLX project (MesaGL acceleration for Matrox, nVidea and now ATI cards) would know that GART is a nifty AGP related thing.
Well maybe we'll do like has happened in the past, convince Linus to add something after the freeze =)
But in the end, linking to illegal things should stay illegal. I mean, if I post illegal mp3's, no matter what anyone says, I am in violation of the law. IP, copyright, whatever. Why should it be fine for someone to link to this data?
/.ers, but you can't post illegal mp3s and expect nothing to happen.
The question we should be asking is the extent. It's not easy to draw similar situations though. Is this like the old 'bomb data used to commit a crime' argument? I mean, the original mp3's were illegal. These links are illegal too, they also made public the availability of illegal mp3's.
So despite what anyone wants to think, in the end it IS illegal. I'm sorry to all the
Of course, all that should be happening is the links be asked to be removed and maybe an ISP account be revoked. Lawsuits aren't the answer and are just scare tactics.
Well.. Call this a little Trolly, maybe a little offtopic, but is anyone else slightly irritated at the self-superior tone that RMS has on gnu.org when discussing Linux vs GNU/Linux?
When will he figure out that GNU would be just a few alternate apps for Unix boxen if it weren't for Linux? Of course, there would be no Linux without GNU.
So what's my point? Well maybe it's time RMS took a miss. This is a little like the Chuck the Daemon argument. The people call it Linux. Boo Hoo if that name doesn't give credit to GNU. People still call the BSD daemon Chuck. What's in a name, really?
RMS seriously needs to revise his attitute a little. People might actually take kindly to calling it GNU/Linux if he wasn't yelling so damn loudly. Something he needs to learn is that people who 5 minutes ago didn't care will suddenly be against you if you come on too strong or are rude.
Then again, this press is just bad anyway. But in the end, it's not like this was a product of some people in Boston or whatever. It was a product of the entire Open Source Movement. From a need came a product, and it was Better. In the end though, don't be petty about it.
Actually, as far as B5 goes, the dialog is once again very cookie-cutter.
Sheridan babbling on and on about how his way is right and everyone else is wrong, finishing fights and what not.
Ivonova is just damn hilarious because she gets the comic relief lines (Well, we're screwed - Severed Dreams) but she also has the painful chore of summing up the last 3 episodes every time there's an ongoing series of eps. Think back to The Long Night and all the episodes surrounding that war. Beginning of every episode was her job to give us a plot summary, and it's typically bordering a run-on sentence.
As for other characters, it's a lot like Star Wars for dialog. It's easy to follow, it's quite often funny. While B5 is a step up, you still have to listen to all sorts of inane babble about religions and what not (Delen's lines come to mind)
But if strong dialog made a strong series/following/movie/show/etc then shouldn't these two be a lot less popular? Ditto to Star Trek, there are SO many pure technobabble lines.
I suppose it goes to show that simplicity lies at the heart of good SciFi/Fantasy. In the end, a good vs evil story, characters to identify with, lines that are both corny and funny...
Then again, simplicity is not the case with most Novels. *Shrug* Someone more qualified want to comment?
Well anyone here would say 'Dual P3 doesn't touch this machine, G4's 0wn'
To that I say: I like my x86. Not for Intel. Not for speed. Not for anything like that. But because I love the competition in the market.
On x86's, I can put together a brutal machine with DVD, a Celeron 400, 17" monitor, the tittiest video card (G400 - which I should note doesn't work on the Mac), etc. And this cost me $1800 Canadian.
What does $1800 cdn buy you at the Apple store? Nothing really. For all out KF (Kaboom Factor), the G4 is a godsend. But even then, with the pricetag, it's restricted to either Geeks With Jobs or Geeks With Rich Dads. I'm neither, I'm just a student.
And even more to the point, suppose I bought this nice G4. I want my G400, I'm totally addicted to this thing and it's performance. I'm sure it'd SCREAM with a G4 but no drivers. Ditto to a lot of good hardware like A3D cards, etc..
As a Linux user I've whined about this before, but where's the Hardware support? Anyway, I'm finally done my Apple rant. And I didn't even say they sucked.
Damn, what a sweet Beowulf cluster these would make, just imagine how many you could cram in a room.
I feel dirty now.
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Aw crap! And I'm moving up there on Sat the 4th for University.. Guess the U of A won't be on this phat pipe =(
Hee, shut up AC man, we know you're a coward and really aren't worth anything, but do you have to make inane comentary like that?
Hehe..
;-)
The graphic on the article.. Doesn't include Calgary. That's comical, Regina is on there but Calgary isn't.
Hopefully it's just a case of not enough room on the pic
Besides.. Everyone should have a kernel on a disk.. You don't need the whole tree for a backup, just an image...
Well in theory, someone could be dumber then that.
I mean, I'm allowed to compile a kernel sans ext2.. Anyone that silly deserves a lesson. There would be defaults on.. Just like every kernel tree has defaults. They're just modifiable. I like this idea really.. Even though it only takes me 1 minute to download a whole kernel tree.. Phat Pipe =)
Yeah, but think of the advantages:
:-D
:-) the preceeding was tounge in cheek. flame to /dev/null cuz it's a JOKE!
a) a health care system (this alone is SO tounge in cheek that i could die)
b) you can legally possess kiddy porn!
c) you get to stick your nose up at 'Merikans and travel in Europe happilly with a big maple leaf on your backpack
d) your national anthem is easier to remember
e) even if you don't know d) you aren't considered unpatriotic
Ok, I'm done now.
I decided to put in the All Time Great B5 quote from Severed Dreams: Ivonova saying 'Well, we're screwed'
/.'ed right after that.
German returned this: Recess, which us are screwed.
The site
Actually, I'd like to see a really cool way to cut down on kernel downloads.. Lord knows this is cpu heavy, but think about it anyway:
User downloads a small chunk of code, runs it. Basically, just the 'menuconfig'. Selects what's good, what's bad. Program goes out and gets the code it needs from a depository (maybe cvs..?), compresses it and downloads.
User ends up not only not needing to download other arch's, but no unneeded sections. User doesn't use IDE? Doesn't download it. Ditto for SCSI, Strange CD-ROM's, V4L, etc.
That initial bit of code wouldn't even need updating, even when the kernel version changes.. Or that selection program could be completely online, a big perl/php/whatever..
Too bad I'm more of an idea rat or I'd do something like this..
Does this statement bother anyone else as much as me? What a double standard.. Lesbians, for whatever reasons, are 'in'.
You only have to look to somone like Ellen of TV fame, and there ya go. Or for some more pop culture, look at Friends. Chandler married a lesbian (or something, I can't stand those shows)
So what makes Lesbianism 'more' socially acceptable? I don't know personally. Is it because guys get off on it? But I'd hate to think that it's JUST the guys that are defining social acceptability.
Maybe it's that pop culture is 'making' it ok. I mean, once it's on Prime Time, it MUST be ok.
Or maybe it was just that Ellen was a good role model or something..? For the life of me, I can't figure it out and it bothers me that such a double standard would exist.
Although for a laugh, look to Japan, where you had gay characters in the TV shows and movies aimed at children. Sailor Moon is a wonderful example. Anyone who's seen the 'Americanized' version would remember Zoicite, the female. Sorry, in the original, she was male. And in love with that other general. Or you get into the later seasons, and bang, you have Michiru and Haruka. Pair of lesbians. Or from the 'R' movie, the antagonist, Fiore was gay.
So maybe as far as morals go, it's very subjective. And now I've gotten into two seperate topics, the double standard, and the subjective morality. Dammit.
Ok, it's flamebait, but I'll bite anyway.
#1, as to the bit on 'thought', you obviously seem devoid of it. Regardless of interpretation, there are things called Facts. And in the Article in mention, it is said that these machines are NOT treading on Apple territory. This is a Fact.
Had you read my response carefully and even (gasp) the article itself, you would have noticed the section on how these AREN'T Apple clones. Apple machines use ROM's (or used to anyway).
Calling these machines Apple boxes just because they are PowerPC boxen is like calling every x86 a Windows box. In fact, IBM has been using these chips extensively in their own machines and Apple hasn't gone ballistic yet.
As to your conspiracy theories, Apple is going to take over the world just as quickly as AOL/Sun/Netscape. You are obviously 'blind' to the fact that all Apple is doing is trying to make a business again. I don't agree with how they're doing it, but honestly, you claiming Jobs is going to become Gates is about as founded as someone saying Linus will. Because simply put, the leverage isn't there for it to happen.
And your assumption that I'm an Apple lackey is sorely misplaced. I can't stand Apple. I can't stand the way they make expensive boxen, I can't stand the way they sit on Quicktime codecs. I don't like Apple.
Like it or not, IBM made the specs available to motherboard makers. So Apple can't do SFA (sh*t f*ck all) about it. The only way Apple will crush these as competition is by making OS X either need ROM's or just not work with CHRA. Like MacOS.