Should I be aware of a sub-1k Alpha out there..? Because if there is, damn I'd like one of them AND one of these. Would make porting software a relative breeze.
Actually, this looks largely useless to the average Mac user, because as the article says they'd have to have a license from Apple and I imagine they'd need Apple ROMS and various tripe like that.
We'd be right back where we were a few years ago when Apple had to get rid of the clones that were ruining their business.
Finally, a good affordable way to get off the x86. And with the x86's 'out-phasing' by Intel sooner or later, it'll be nice to have a system to keep developing on.
And hey, this should really improve the port quality for the PPC versions of anything.
AMD? I'm sorry, but I can't go out Right Now and get a dual AMD computer. One of AMD's biggest f*ckups on the K6-2&3 line was the inability to SMP.
While Athlon should SMP nicely, I hear that the current chipset that AMD is using only allows Dual, and nothing above. Besides which, I know I'm not seeing any Athlons in stores for a while *sigh*
Because this will not be an Open Protocol, merely a published one. Open protocols can be critiqued by all and eventually revised on the desires of the community (OpenGL comes to mind).. No way this is an Open Protocol.
No sh*t. Look at some of the worlds most famous buildings and bridges, and there you have it, art. Hell, there's even art to demolition of buildings;-)
I feel it's an amazingly scary number. As the article itself proved, a single insecure computer can open up other secure computers to vulnerabilities.
Remember, the Linux box that was cracked was 'secure' as far as the Audit would show. Yet, it was comprimised, through the compromization of another box.
The analogy was made in the article that the Internet is less of a community, more of an organism. When one area is infected (cracked) it can spread to other areas easily, without the problems of having to crack each box individually.
With the speed and intimate knowlege shown by the intruder from Week 3, one name comes up.. Erwin!
I suppose after Columbia Internet got hit with the probe, Erwin took it personally. After having NT on it's drives before, I imagine it knew exactly how to get into the NT box and play around with everything to get the SSH going and eventually onto the Linux box.
It makes perfect sense =) That's what we get for messing around with an AI of that caliber;-)
So why don't we do something fair, load up a Debian box with potato, and maybe even throw a 2.3.x kernel. That would be beta.
What do ya say, anyone on the Debian team feel up to it? Put beta against beta?
Of course, a 'stock' Debian install doesn't include the nice things like Apache or even wu-ftpd, but hey, as long as conf files aren't really tweaked and the packages are 'just installed' it should still fit the criteria:-)
Sound argument, except for the car costs. Bus pass is X numbers of dollars.
Cars cost more then Gas. They cost insurance and maintanence. Which does add up to a LOT more then $50 a month in the long run, especially if you do something dumb like lease a car.
Sadly, the dollar value isn't enough to get ppl off the roads and on the busses. Because there's more to life then just commuting.
Well.. if any tally is correct and there are 12 million Linux users out there.. If ALL of them said something loudly, it would be noticed.
Sure, there's a hypewave but it is somewhat justified. It's been a while since things WORKED on a lot of people's computers.
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Yeah, but if you remember what AGP texturing is.. The main system memory is used by the video card. Now, using system memory as a framebuffer, that's pure evil.
Sure, it may be bandwagon jumping, but SGI seriously needs a boost to it's slightly less then stellar hold on the market.
It's nice to see this happen though, another nice boost for Linux and I'd love to see some badass servers and maybe a little extra GPL'd code from SGI's ppl (please, please please);-)
The moderation on the above post is a load of leadership (Dilbert reference). Let me get started:
#1. Private Schools:
Uhm, NO. Bad free schools beat ANY form of basic education that has to be paid for. I mean, isn't it somewhere in the UN Declaration of Human Rights, the right to free basic education?
Sure, private schools outperform the public system, but at a cost that can't be handled. Some people just can't afford it. Now, a fundamental reform of public schooling.. That I'd go for.
#2. Law Enforcement Re: Waco. Please, why does this always come up? Do yourself a favor, read up on Waco. The FBI weren't the only evil idiots on site there. The IR footage shows, during the fire, Waco members firing INTO their own structure, killing their own people.
Again though, valid points raised: The NSA for one. They need a reality check. In the end, no thanks to the NSA. And get rid of Reno the Facist and we should be ok.
#3. Public Healthcare IT WORKS. Look to Canada. We have a system that functions. One of the best free systems around. Sadly, the US keeps stealing our doctors cuz they get paid better elsewhere.. (Yes, there are other issues to be thought about with the Canadian Health Care system, but it doesn't suck)
#4. Social Services Axe anything resembling government pensions. That is all. =)
#5. Military Buddy, there's more to the world then just the US. Militaries can be effective internationally. Peacekeepnig is a Good Thing(tm), although a mass unsolicited air campaign isn't really. I can agree with military spending, but nothing as extravagent at the US has.
So don't whine when taxes go your way. While they could be collected/spent better, the basic underlying concept is a good one. If you don't like it, don't stop paying them, just change the how. The US just happens to have gotten it all backwards again.
Uhm, by definition, Direct3D is proprietary. Yonks ago, Brian Hook went on about this. To sum it up, if you can't change the spec then you can't call it open.
OpenGL is just that, Open. There is a method in place for reviewing and expanding the OpenGL standard. There are things like committees(sp?) and people like developers and IHV's sit on it.
There is no such method for Direct3D. If you want D3D to change the way you (possibly an IHV or developer or chipset manufacturer) want it to, you don't have the same amount of luck.
The bottom line: D3D goes whatever way MS wants it to. OpenGL's direction is not dictated by SGI however. That's probably the best summary I can make.
Yeah, well maybe the US could have followed that philosophy during the Cold War. Hell, I'd rather have them shoot pure gold and dollar bills into space and watch them scatter instead of building even one more nuclear warhead.
I certainly agree that priorities are, well, a priority, but I can't see the US making a smart decision with their money. And all the investment in the world doesn't guarantee return.
Funny though, consider that GLide or whatever 3dfx calls their API is available for Linux. Just that very few souls use it for straight GLide.. More people are using it as a Mesa implementation:-D
Down with proprietary API's! That includes GLide, Direct3D.. =)
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RTFA. Read the fscking article. They're not treading on Mac territory. They aren't making Mac clones. They don't have a licensing agreement.
Although, if OS X eventually needs no boot ROMs from Apple, then Jobs will remove this competition.
Should I be aware of a sub-1k Alpha out there..? Because if there is, damn I'd like one of them AND one of these. Would make porting software a relative breeze.
Actually, this looks largely useless to the average Mac user, because as the article says they'd have to have a license from Apple and I imagine they'd need Apple ROMS and various tripe like that.
We'd be right back where we were a few years ago when Apple had to get rid of the clones that were ruining their business.
Finally, a good affordable way to get off the x86. And with the x86's 'out-phasing' by Intel sooner or later, it'll be nice to have a system to keep developing on.
And hey, this should really improve the port quality for the PPC versions of anything.
AMD? I'm sorry, but I can't go out Right Now and get a dual AMD computer. One of AMD's biggest f*ckups on the K6-2&3 line was the inability to SMP.
While Athlon should SMP nicely, I hear that the current chipset that AMD is using only allows Dual, and nothing above. Besides which, I know I'm not seeing any Athlons in stores for a while *sigh*
Because this will not be an Open Protocol, merely a published one. Open protocols can be critiqued by all and eventually revised on the desires of the community (OpenGL comes to mind).. No way this is an Open Protocol.
What's that program.. kfm is it? KDE Firewall Manager? And there's a GTK+ equiv too. Go poke around on Freshmeat.
Sun has always loved the idea of small computers and downloaded Java running everything. Rent-An-App at it's best.
No sh*t. Look at some of the worlds most famous buildings and bridges, and there you have it, art. Hell, there's even art to demolition of buildings ;-)
I feel it's an amazingly scary number. As the article itself proved, a single insecure computer can open up other secure computers to vulnerabilities.
Remember, the Linux box that was cracked was 'secure' as far as the Audit would show. Yet, it was comprimised, through the compromization of another box.
The analogy was made in the article that the Internet is less of a community, more of an organism. When one area is infected (cracked) it can spread to other areas easily, without the problems of having to crack each box individually.
Just remember that.
With the speed and intimate knowlege shown by the intruder from Week 3, one name comes up.. Erwin!
;-)
I suppose after Columbia Internet got hit with the probe, Erwin took it personally. After having NT on it's drives before, I imagine it knew exactly how to get into the NT box and play around with everything to get the SSH going and eventually onto the Linux box.
It makes perfect sense =) That's what we get for messing around with an AI of that caliber
How about "Stable, but who cares? All the cool nifty's are in the devel kernels" =)
:-D
Seriously, Stable is boring. On a mission critical server, that may not be the case, but for me, well I just want to have fun.
Stable means a feature freeze for bug fixes. But when you feature freeze, you don't get the new cool gizmos =) Like USB and what not.
So the moral of the story? Stable is all well and good because it probably helps the devel kernel ppl fix some of the underlying problems
How bout the legal age being 18 in Alberta?
:-)
As well as there being NO PST (damn sales tax)
With the exception of Ralph Klein, Pesto Manning and the rednecks, Alberta is where to be
Oh, then there's that pesky Calgary traffic (ugh)
Or maybe the 'need' to revolt against government wouldn't BE there if government didn't suck ass.
And it seems like Canada is taking steps to not suck.
Oh, I know apache is THERE, but there is more then one definition of 'stock' Debian installation.
At the very least, just installing the Required/Standard packages doesn't really install anything, just a base system..
So why don't we do something fair, load up a Debian box with potato, and maybe even throw a 2.3.x kernel. That would be beta.
:-)
What do ya say, anyone on the Debian team feel up to it? Put beta against beta?
Of course, a 'stock' Debian install doesn't include the nice things like Apache or even wu-ftpd, but hey, as long as conf files aren't really tweaked and the packages are 'just installed' it should still fit the criteria
Sound argument, except for the car costs. Bus pass is X numbers of dollars.
Cars cost more then Gas. They cost insurance and maintanence. Which does add up to a LOT more then $50 a month in the long run, especially if you do something dumb like lease a car.
Sadly, the dollar value isn't enough to get ppl off the roads and on the busses. Because there's more to life then just commuting.
If SPAM includes pig products, does that mean we have Pigs In Space?
I loved that segment on the Muppet Show..
Well.. if any tally is correct and there are 12 million Linux users out there.. If ALL of them said something loudly, it would be noticed.
Sure, there's a hypewave but it is somewhat justified. It's been a while since things WORKED on a lot of people's computers.
Yeah, but if you remember what AGP texturing is.. The main system memory is used by the video card. Now, using system memory as a framebuffer, that's pure evil.
Sure, it may be bandwagon jumping, but SGI seriously needs a boost to it's slightly less then stellar hold on the market.
;-)
It's nice to see this happen though, another nice boost for Linux and I'd love to see some badass servers and maybe a little extra GPL'd code from SGI's ppl (please, please please)
The moderation on the above post is a load of leadership (Dilbert reference). Let me get started:
#1. Private Schools:
Uhm, NO. Bad free schools beat ANY form of basic education that has to be paid for. I mean, isn't it somewhere in the UN Declaration of Human Rights, the right to free basic education?
Sure, private schools outperform the public system, but at a cost that can't be handled. Some people just can't afford it. Now, a fundamental reform of public schooling.. That I'd go for.
#2. Law Enforcement
Re: Waco.
Please, why does this always come up? Do yourself a favor, read up on Waco. The FBI weren't the only evil idiots on site there. The IR footage shows, during the fire, Waco members firing INTO their own structure, killing their own people.
Again though, valid points raised: The NSA for one. They need a reality check. In the end, no thanks to the NSA. And get rid of Reno the Facist and we should be ok.
#3. Public Healthcare
IT WORKS. Look to Canada. We have a system that functions. One of the best free systems around. Sadly, the US keeps stealing our doctors cuz they get paid better elsewhere.. (Yes, there are other issues to be thought about with the Canadian Health Care system, but it doesn't suck)
#4. Social Services
Axe anything resembling government pensions. That is all. =)
#5. Military
Buddy, there's more to the world then just the US. Militaries can be effective internationally. Peacekeepnig is a Good Thing(tm), although a mass unsolicited air campaign isn't really. I can agree with military spending, but nothing as extravagent at the US has.
So don't whine when taxes go your way. While they could be collected/spent better, the basic underlying concept is a good one. If you don't like it, don't stop paying them, just change the how. The US just happens to have gotten it all backwards again.
Uhm, by definition, Direct3D is proprietary. Yonks ago, Brian Hook went on about this. To sum it up, if you can't change the spec then you can't call it open.
OpenGL is just that, Open. There is a method in place for reviewing and expanding the OpenGL standard. There are things like committees(sp?) and people like developers and IHV's sit on it.
There is no such method for Direct3D. If you want D3D to change the way you (possibly an IHV or developer or chipset manufacturer) want it to, you don't have the same amount of luck.
The bottom line: D3D goes whatever way MS wants it to. OpenGL's direction is not dictated by SGI however. That's probably the best summary I can make.
Yeah, well maybe the US could have followed that philosophy during the Cold War. Hell, I'd rather have them shoot pure gold and dollar bills into space and watch them scatter instead of building even one more nuclear warhead.
I certainly agree that priorities are, well, a priority, but I can't see the US making a smart decision with their money. And all the investment in the world doesn't guarantee return.
Funny though, consider that GLide or whatever 3dfx calls their API is available for Linux. Just that very few souls use it for straight GLide.. More people are using it as a Mesa implementation :-D
Down with proprietary API's! That includes GLide, Direct3D.. =)