See, the worst part is that lately, Sig11 has been posting replies to the AC's, defending himself, laughing at them. If it wasn't obvious enough, he's feeding the trolls and feeding on the controversy.
So that makes him more then a Karma Whore, it makes him a small time Media Whore. He loves it too.
-One of the AC's who's always after him, posting logged in because the previous poster was brave enough to as well.
It's a take-no-prisoners approach to this. Countering lies with the truth. And as the old cliche says, The Truth Hurts.
It's also take-no-prisoners because they're admitting a bias. Some people will call them on their bias, saying they should be more balanced. To that I say: "burp". Why? Because MS isn't nice to us, why the heck should we be nice to them?
The only difference is we don't need to lie to be mean:-)
I do believe you missed the entire point. His arguments are similar to that of a qwerty-vs-dvorak keyboard. On a dvorak, the 'power' keys, or the ones most used, should always be in reach. He has simply extended this to software itself, saying that magic function keys should be at your fingertips, right in/around the 'sweet spot' (Home Row)
This makes perfect sense too, as soon as your hand wanders off to find arrow keys, you lose time and your rhythm (sp, I know). You fall out of 'Zen' as the case may be.
Strange though, I summed up half his article in 2 short paragraphs:-)
Despite AOL having lots and lots and lots of money, you don't see them pouring it into Mozilla's development. More hands would be welcome in the project, just put a bunch of Redhat employees to work full time on the Mozilla source. It's open source, and I can hardly see the Moz team saying "No, no, we don't need any help."
Chronic drug users and dysfunctional homes are merely 2 of the 'danger signs.' And near the bottom of the list no less. And it even says 'Most, if not all of these danger signs.' Well, now then, that sucks. Because I fit every one of those, save chronic drug use. My house could have been defined as dysfunctional, depending on your definition.
The precedent this is setting is utterly idiotic. My 'small group of friends' were nonviolent to an extreme. This isn't 'profiling', this is stereotyping and should be confronted as such. Is it suddenly legal to single out 'Geeks' and say they're violent, kick them out of school, etc? If you tried to single out any other minority in this world, say Gay people or Black people, tried to kick them out of school/society for reasons that are absurd at the least, all hell would break loose.
These are human rights violations. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise. I'm glad I'm out of the public school system, but I'm worried for where this will go, if my kids (when I get married, etc) will have to go to a school system where being different is wrong. Who's for fighting this? Singling out minorities is wrong. Lets not stand by and let it happen to us.
I have no intent of rationalizing another Cold War. I just find that given the alternatives, letting the US be the World Cop is not a good thing. Do I like China? Not in the slightest. They have an appaling Human Rights record, they are agressive, they proliferate arms around with world.. But what are you going to do about it if they figure out how to circumvent US Stealth technology? Not a lot.
Also, as far as non-nuclear weapons go, the US spent a great deal of time and effort spreading arms around during the Cold War to deal with the 'Commie' threat. You can hardly make them Heros. I'd rather have someone else representing the Free World. There's a reason that there are Jihads declared on the USA, and they have nothing to do with jealousy of world power. They have to do with the US believing they can control the world.
The way the US has led the UN by the hand in justifying their military action lately (or skipping the UN entirely) is not exactly a good thing. And the US will continue to be a semi-agressor, doing what they please in the world unless someone does something. Another superpower can keep them in check. A Cold War doesn't even have to be the outcome.
And for the sake of reference, Canadian troops put American ones to shame for training. The US just has more and a way bigger toy-budget.
And what's cooler? The US thinking they're all that and a bag of chips? Thinking that since they're light years ahead of all the other nations that they can act as an agressor, decide to start and stop wars?
No, my friend, a little Cold War is better then the States slowly trying to own the world. Granted, a Cold War sucks, but I'd rather have them shooting off their mouths and not their missles. That's why it's a Cold war.
Collect it, certainly. I made the point that in the end, a huge amount of Coal dust is about as shitty as a little radioactives. While not a good thing, you can spread that coal waste far and wide with relatively little effect. The problem is that the nuclear stuff is so damn concentrated that it'd BETTER stay put when you store it.. And there are no indefinite storage methods.. at least not ones that you can claim work for 35,000 years or so.
Well, in context? Sure, a billion people know who Cher is. And a few months ago, a million people knew who Cher was, but noone cared. Then, through the miracle of pop culture, we had our Aging Celebrity Comeback (TM, patent pending, and very similar to the phenomenon of Five-Member-Male-Vocalist-Groups). And millions of records were sold on a person who, of course, quickly lost the limelight and became the subject of Scandalous Tabloid Mockery (TM, patent acquired).
So here we have a person, who basically has contributed very little of real value to society. She entertained ages ago, and now is entertaining again. Yes, this has value. But as much value as the work of a man who is a Large Part of the Open Source movement. A movement that is making quite the impact in the computer/Internet bits of society. True, it's relative and what not, but Bruce/Linus/RMS/ESR/Wall/etc are doing more that makes themselves more important.
And as long as we're talking about people taking the limelight and doing a foot-in-mouth, remember that RMS was and still is quite controversial. His best comments were made in the day when/. wasn't a phenomenon, but he said them all the same. Bruce is more then entitled to his (justified, IMHO) position.
And anyone who wants a humorous take on the Corel 18+ thing, go read todays UFIE.
Nuclear power: Leaves behind nuclear waste. The small amount of nuclear waste sucks about as much as the thousands of tonnes of emissions from your coal generators. Per tonne, nuclear waste sucks most.
As with the first example, nuclear power is more powerful, disaster wise, per gram. Spill a few kilos of coal dust into the water, no real biggy. Spill a few kilos of heavy water or whatever nuclear substance you choose into the local water supply and.. uhm.. you get the idea.
Nuclear power would be a safe, reliable and relatively cheap source of power if we had a good grip on it. But we don't. When a small thing goes wrong, and you're dealing with coal, it's a small repurcussion. When something small goes wrong in a nuclear plant, something big usually comes of it. Granted, with better reactors would come better safety, but things will ALWAYS go wrong, and in ways noone would ever guess.
God, why is this drivel Score:2? Maybe our poster here needs to wake up. It's all well and good to have an active/. who is aware of all these internet censorship issues, but normal people don't care. And normal people are caring less and less about internet censorship. Why? Easy.. It's so easy to say 'censorship is bad.' Yet with the Internet being in it's relative infancy, anyone can post anything. Total drivel (This is my cat's homepage). Hate mongering. Pornography./.! And with access being as easy as a point and a click, people get scared. At least with pornography and sex in general, there's a society of taboos to stop a 14 year old from walking into a porn store. There isn't a freedom of information in society as it exists today anyway, yet somehow it should exist online?
Also, don't expect to see anything terribly violent happen anytime soon. Despite your conclusion being generally logical, remember that Karl Marx had very logical arguments that claimed Communism would just sweep the world because of the oppression of people during the late stages of the Industrial Revolution. Also, the Internet, by and large, still doesn't have enough daily penetration into peoples lives for your scenario to play out. A net underground would be an easy thing to crack down, the way that information is both so free (if it's easy for you to find it, it's easy for it to find you).
There, my rant is done. Note that my opinions may or may not be stated, I was more or less playing a Devils Advocate.
Bah, I always think of something to add to my own posts right after writing them..
I pointed out it was a Browser, so it has to munge through reams of horrible markup code, that may or may not conform to spec. It may or may not contain extensions. Browsers are hell to write because they're expected to make a webpage out of pure garbage code. GIGO (Garbage in, Garbage Out) isn't allowed to apply.
This is a browser. And they say that for it to be called ALPHA it has to last an hour.
Alpha being the key term. The reason the MTBF isn't thousands of hours yet is because it's Alpha Software. One hour mean uptime is good enough to honestly run it through real world tests and find the bugs.
The criteria is not 'inadeqate' as the case may be. It's not release software. I'd complain if the MTBF was an hour and it was being called Beta. But it's not. So yes, you are off base =)
The GPL is a license. Canadian law prevents minors from entering into license contracts. Hence, Canadian minors can't agree to the GPL, no matter how free it's terms are. The GPL is free enough, the people just aren't free to enter the freedom.
So it technically can't be called a violation of the GPL, but rather a weakness in EULAs and license laws in general. A lawsuit is not the way to fix this either. Corel is just following the letter of the law. It's a shame the spirit of the law sucks ass.
Well in theory, the GPL is a license, a contract of sorts. So in theory, minors can't legally agree to it in the first place. This isn't the fault of the GPL being restrictive, just that even it's very free terms can't be agreed to by someone who can't legally agree.
Don't mention cigarettes. The tobacco companies increased nicotine content in them, targeted youth for advertising, etc. What does this all mean? That they were getting kids hooked on something they didn't understand. And in doing so, threatened the health and welfare of most of a generation of people. This world would be a better place without cigarettes. I think they should be allowed to be sold, but NOT sold to minors in the slightest, because of the addictive nature. Of course, you say, laws already prevent that sort of thing. Bullshit if the laws are effective. Walk outside a high school and see the dozens of smoking kids, not a one of them would be of legal age to buy smokes.
Beer on the other hand, noone will ever take away from me. Alcohol isn't at least a long term addictive agent. Sure, a person can fuck up their life with alcohol too, but it's their life to fuck up. And no, I'm not being a hypocrite. I wasn't saying cigs should be banned before, I was saying that the cigarette companies are dead evil and that targeting youth for their long term financial success is wrong.
Ah, I love life. Everyone deserves a chance to sell their product as far as I'm concerned. I just don't think that the average consumer has the brain power to know what's worth their money. Does that mean the government can step in? Lord no. Does that mean people should be able to throw their lives away? I guess so, but that's harder to justify. And now I'm ranting. You were half right though. In that people are too stupid to make rational decisions. Your position though, is arrogant and you didn't have much to say besides attacking the other poster. So fuck off and die.
On topic though, I won't be surprised if in 10 years we see general embargos placed on the US. They think they can control the world and the world is saying 'f*ck off'. All I can say is that Canada is the place to live.
*wishes he had some moderator points so he could score down EVERY Score:2 post that doesn't deserve a 2 in this thread. overrated indeed*
Yes, but the problem with that is that you COULD set up a program to snip the headers you need, but in doing that snipping, you're still accessing the whole message in some form. Think about the post office analogy. With snail mail, there is both envelope and content. You can eyeball the envelope without knowing the content.
Postcards are what email is like. The post office, in eyeballing the important data (that being the mailing address, postage, etc), they CAN see the content. They may not read it, but it's right there. It's easy to claim the mail has been 'read' for diagnostic purposes, simply because there's not much of an alternative. Even if the content is not expressly read, it has been 'opened' and therefore is in violation of privacy.
Now, this is all assuming these people were having diagnostic problems. I can't comment on that. My solution is much like anyone else's.. Seperate envelope and content. Encrypt. If you do that, even if someone WANTED to open the envelope, the content is in gobbledygook =)
Some people say it's being rushed to make Christmas ship date and compete with Unreal Tournament. Kinda like Gnome 1.0 (except no Expos to release at..);-)
That was funny. Honestly too, I giggled my way through. Maybe the concept of Web Development isn't as 'buzzwordy' as everyone makes it out to be. I'd like to know that the Internet is just as useful as a phone, but a shame it isn't.
And if you want a CDE lookalike, go get XFCE (main site at xfce.org is down, mirror linked).
And as far as Gnome goes, the eye candy is ENTIRELY up to the user. Enlightenment is heavy on Eye Candy, so DON'T USE IT. Install Sawmill or WindowMaker. And you can install a simple clean color GTK+ theme, like the basic one.
Now then, where was I.. KDE is good as it is. So is Gnome, each for their own reasons. IMHO, aiming to be like CDE is NOT the objective at hand, we're supposed to be developing a desktop for the home user. And the feature called 'configurability' that exists in both KDE & Gnome, you can MAKE it a desktop to suit your needs.
Yes, you are a complete idiot. OS/2 failed because the AntiTrust suits against IBM prevented them from properly marketing it. Just look at the restrictions placed on IBM. It also failed because MS refused to license the Win32 API. But that's noone's fault because MS wasn't obliged to license it. First point stands though.
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See, the worst part is that lately, Sig11 has been posting replies to the AC's, defending himself, laughing at them. If it wasn't obvious enough, he's feeding the trolls and feeding on the controversy.
So that makes him more then a Karma Whore, it makes him a small time Media Whore. He loves it too.
-One of the AC's who's always after him, posting logged in because the previous poster was brave enough to as well.
Well said AC.. And beyond that, the Linux G400 driver has 2 things going for it..
#1, John Carmack. He's cool =)
#2, the driver still hasn't implemented multitexture. expect it to get a LOT faster.
This is even before DRI.. Wow! X is where to be.
It's a take-no-prisoners approach to this. Countering lies with the truth. And as the old cliche says, The Truth Hurts.
:-)
It's also take-no-prisoners because they're admitting a bias. Some people will call them on their bias, saying they should be more balanced. To that I say: "burp". Why? Because MS isn't nice to us, why the heck should we be nice to them?
The only difference is we don't need to lie to be mean
I do believe you missed the entire point. His arguments are similar to that of a qwerty-vs-dvorak keyboard. On a dvorak, the 'power' keys, or the ones most used, should always be in reach. He has simply extended this to software itself, saying that magic function keys should be at your fingertips, right in/around the 'sweet spot' (Home Row)
:-)
This makes perfect sense too, as soon as your hand wanders off to find arrow keys, you lose time and your rhythm (sp, I know). You fall out of 'Zen' as the case may be.
Strange though, I summed up half his article in 2 short paragraphs
Despite AOL having lots and lots and lots of money, you don't see them pouring it into Mozilla's development. More hands would be welcome in the project, just put a bunch of Redhat employees to work full time on the Mozilla source. It's open source, and I can hardly see the Moz team saying "No, no, we don't need any help."
Chronic drug users and dysfunctional homes are merely 2 of the 'danger signs.' And near the bottom of the list no less. And it even says 'Most, if not all of these danger signs.' Well, now then, that sucks. Because I fit every one of those, save chronic drug use. My house could have been defined as dysfunctional, depending on your definition.
The precedent this is setting is utterly idiotic. My 'small group of friends' were nonviolent to an extreme. This isn't 'profiling', this is stereotyping and should be confronted as such. Is it suddenly legal to single out 'Geeks' and say they're violent, kick them out of school, etc? If you tried to single out any other minority in this world, say Gay people or Black people, tried to kick them out of school/society for reasons that are absurd at the least, all hell would break loose.
These are human rights violations. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise. I'm glad I'm out of the public school system, but I'm worried for where this will go, if my kids (when I get married, etc) will have to go to a school system where being different is wrong. Who's for fighting this? Singling out minorities is wrong. Lets not stand by and let it happen to us.
Or is my net connection typically slow?
I have no intent of rationalizing another Cold War. I just find that given the alternatives, letting the US be the World Cop is not a good thing. Do I like China? Not in the slightest. They have an appaling Human Rights record, they are agressive, they proliferate arms around with world.. But what are you going to do about it if they figure out how to circumvent US Stealth technology? Not a lot.
Also, as far as non-nuclear weapons go, the US spent a great deal of time and effort spreading arms around during the Cold War to deal with the 'Commie' threat. You can hardly make them Heros. I'd rather have someone else representing the Free World. There's a reason that there are Jihads declared on the USA, and they have nothing to do with jealousy of world power. They have to do with the US believing they can control the world.
The way the US has led the UN by the hand in justifying their military action lately (or skipping the UN entirely) is not exactly a good thing. And the US will continue to be a semi-agressor, doing what they please in the world unless someone does something. Another superpower can keep them in check. A Cold War doesn't even have to be the outcome.
And for the sake of reference, Canadian troops put American ones to shame for training. The US just has more and a way bigger toy-budget.
And what's cooler? The US thinking they're all that and a bag of chips? Thinking that since they're light years ahead of all the other nations that they can act as an agressor, decide to start and stop wars?
No, my friend, a little Cold War is better then the States slowly trying to own the world. Granted, a Cold War sucks, but I'd rather have them shooting off their mouths and not their missles. That's why it's a Cold war.
Collect it, certainly. I made the point that in the end, a huge amount of Coal dust is about as shitty as a little radioactives. While not a good thing, you can spread that coal waste far and wide with relatively little effect. The problem is that the nuclear stuff is so damn concentrated that it'd BETTER stay put when you store it.. And there are no indefinite storage methods.. at least not ones that you can claim work for 35,000 years or so.
Well, in context? Sure, a billion people know who Cher is. And a few months ago, a million people knew who Cher was, but noone cared. Then, through the miracle of pop culture, we had our Aging Celebrity Comeback (TM, patent pending, and very similar to the phenomenon of Five-Member-Male-Vocalist-Groups). And millions of records were sold on a person who, of course, quickly lost the limelight and became the subject of Scandalous Tabloid Mockery (TM, patent acquired).
/. wasn't a phenomenon, but he said them all the same. Bruce is more then entitled to his (justified, IMHO) position.
So here we have a person, who basically has contributed very little of real value to society. She entertained ages ago, and now is entertaining again. Yes, this has value. But as much value as the work of a man who is a Large Part of the Open Source movement. A movement that is making quite the impact in the computer/Internet bits of society. True, it's relative and what not, but Bruce/Linus/RMS/ESR/Wall/etc are doing more that makes themselves more important.
And as long as we're talking about people taking the limelight and doing a foot-in-mouth, remember that RMS was and still is quite controversial. His best comments were made in the day when
And anyone who wants a humorous take on the Corel 18+ thing, go read todays UFIE.
Nuclear power: Leaves behind nuclear waste. The small amount of nuclear waste sucks about as much as the thousands of tonnes of emissions from your coal generators. Per tonne, nuclear waste sucks most.
As with the first example, nuclear power is more powerful, disaster wise, per gram. Spill a few kilos of coal dust into the water, no real biggy. Spill a few kilos of heavy water or whatever nuclear substance you choose into the local water supply and.. uhm.. you get the idea.
Nuclear power would be a safe, reliable and relatively cheap source of power if we had a good grip on it. But we don't. When a small thing goes wrong, and you're dealing with coal, it's a small repurcussion. When something small goes wrong in a nuclear plant, something big usually comes of it. Granted, with better reactors would come better safety, but things will ALWAYS go wrong, and in ways noone would ever guess.
God, why is this drivel Score:2? Maybe our poster here needs to wake up. It's all well and good to have an active /. who is aware of all these internet censorship issues, but normal people don't care. And normal people are caring less and less about internet censorship. Why? Easy.. /.! And with access being as easy as a point and a click, people get scared. At least with pornography and sex in general, there's a society of taboos to stop a 14 year old from walking into a porn store. There isn't a freedom of information in society as it exists today anyway, yet somehow it should exist online?
It's so easy to say 'censorship is bad.' Yet with the Internet being in it's relative infancy, anyone can post anything. Total drivel (This is my cat's homepage). Hate mongering. Pornography.
Also, don't expect to see anything terribly violent happen anytime soon. Despite your conclusion being generally logical, remember that Karl Marx had very logical arguments that claimed Communism would just sweep the world because of the oppression of people during the late stages of the Industrial Revolution. Also, the Internet, by and large, still doesn't have enough daily penetration into peoples lives for your scenario to play out. A net underground would be an easy thing to crack down, the way that information is both so free (if it's easy for you to find it, it's easy for it to find you).
There, my rant is done. Note that my opinions may or may not be stated, I was more or less playing a Devils Advocate.
Bah, I always think of something to add to my own posts right after writing them..
I pointed out it was a Browser, so it has to munge through reams of horrible markup code, that may or may not conform to spec. It may or may not contain extensions. Browsers are hell to write because they're expected to make a webpage out of pure garbage code. GIGO (Garbage in, Garbage Out) isn't allowed to apply.
This is a browser. And they say that for it to be called ALPHA it has to last an hour.
Alpha being the key term. The reason the MTBF isn't thousands of hours yet is because it's Alpha Software. One hour mean uptime is good enough to honestly run it through real world tests and find the bugs.
The criteria is not 'inadeqate' as the case may be. It's not release software. I'd complain if the MTBF was an hour and it was being called Beta. But it's not. So yes, you are off base =)
I'll requote what I said in the previous thread.
The GPL is a license. Canadian law prevents minors from entering into license contracts. Hence, Canadian minors can't agree to the GPL, no matter how free it's terms are. The GPL is free enough, the people just aren't free to enter the freedom.
So it technically can't be called a violation of the GPL, but rather a weakness in EULAs and license laws in general. A lawsuit is not the way to fix this either. Corel is just following the letter of the law. It's a shame the spirit of the law sucks ass.
And yes, i do see my it's/its error in the post now. It's 6 am, I need to go to bed.
Well in theory, the GPL is a license, a contract of sorts. So in theory, minors can't legally agree to it in the first place. This isn't the fault of the GPL being restrictive, just that even it's very free terms can't be agreed to by someone who can't legally agree.
Don't mention cigarettes. The tobacco companies increased nicotine content in them, targeted youth for advertising, etc. What does this all mean? That they were getting kids hooked on something they didn't understand. And in doing so, threatened the health and welfare of most of a generation of people. This world would be a better place without cigarettes. I think they should be allowed to be sold, but NOT sold to minors in the slightest, because of the addictive nature. Of course, you say, laws already prevent that sort of thing. Bullshit if the laws are effective. Walk outside a high school and see the dozens of smoking kids, not a one of them would be of legal age to buy smokes.
Beer on the other hand, noone will ever take away from me. Alcohol isn't at least a long term addictive agent. Sure, a person can fuck up their life with alcohol too, but it's their life to fuck up. And no, I'm not being a hypocrite. I wasn't saying cigs should be banned before, I was saying that the cigarette companies are dead evil and that targeting youth for their long term financial success is wrong.
Ah, I love life. Everyone deserves a chance to sell their product as far as I'm concerned. I just don't think that the average consumer has the brain power to know what's worth their money. Does that mean the government can step in? Lord no. Does that mean people should be able to throw their lives away? I guess so, but that's harder to justify. And now I'm ranting. You were half right though. In that people are too stupid to make rational decisions. Your position though, is arrogant and you didn't have much to say besides attacking the other poster. So fuck off and die.
On topic though, I won't be surprised if in 10 years we see general embargos placed on the US. They think they can control the world and the world is saying 'f*ck off'. All I can say is that Canada is the place to live.
*wishes he had some moderator points so he could score down EVERY Score:2 post that doesn't deserve a 2 in this thread. overrated indeed*
Yes, but the problem with that is that you COULD set up a program to snip the headers you need, but in doing that snipping, you're still accessing the whole message in some form. Think about the post office analogy. With snail mail, there is both envelope and content. You can eyeball the envelope without knowing the content.
Postcards are what email is like. The post office, in eyeballing the important data (that being the mailing address, postage, etc), they CAN see the content. They may not read it, but it's right there. It's easy to claim the mail has been 'read' for diagnostic purposes, simply because there's not much of an alternative. Even if the content is not expressly read, it has been 'opened' and therefore is in violation of privacy.
Now, this is all assuming these people were having diagnostic problems. I can't comment on that. My solution is much like anyone else's.. Seperate envelope and content. Encrypt. If you do that, even if someone WANTED to open the envelope, the content is in gobbledygook =)
Can I get a mailing adress with that Mr. Coward? Is it at all like finding a Mr. John Doe? :-)
Some people say it's being rushed to make Christmas ship date and compete with Unreal Tournament. Kinda like Gnome 1.0 (except no Expos to release at..) ;-)
(the above was tounge in cheek)
That was funny. Honestly too, I giggled my way through. Maybe the concept of Web Development isn't as 'buzzwordy' as everyone makes it out to be. I'd like to know that the Internet is just as useful as a phone, but a shame it isn't.
Well thanks for trolling. NEXT!
And if you want a CDE lookalike, go get XFCE (main site at xfce.org is down, mirror linked).
And as far as Gnome goes, the eye candy is ENTIRELY up to the user. Enlightenment is heavy on Eye Candy, so DON'T USE IT. Install Sawmill or WindowMaker. And you can install a simple clean color GTK+ theme, like the basic one.
Now then, where was I.. KDE is good as it is. So is Gnome, each for their own reasons. IMHO, aiming to be like CDE is NOT the objective at hand, we're supposed to be developing a desktop for the home user. And the feature called 'configurability' that exists in both KDE & Gnome, you can MAKE it a desktop to suit your needs.
Yes, you are a complete idiot. OS/2 failed because the AntiTrust suits against IBM prevented them from properly marketing it. Just look at the restrictions placed on IBM. It also failed because MS refused to license the Win32 API. But that's noone's fault because MS wasn't obliged to license it. First point stands though.