so I am an old guy, and i have always been blind in one eye. sometimes it is a bother. but let us concentrate on the old part. a peer I know got significantly rich doing programming and he is I think fully or close to it blind. I figure the healthy should accomodate disabilities, but the disabled should not expect their lives to be fair, pretty much like the rest of us. What we all need is the possibility of success. but I have no sympathy for these universities. they get a lot of tax payer money and they can deal with public policy issues without getting sued.
The bigger picture is what counts. Russia, China, and India, and I suspect Japan, are all strongly tending to very deep cooperation. This is not due to some historical friendship!
On space stuff, I think of the recent economic policy announcements by the Russians, which puts an emphasis, not the biggest emphasis, but an emphasis on space technology, and in context nuclear powered space tech. And Russian and India just signed a nuclear deal that spits in the face of Obamba and happens to open up cooperation on light weight nuclear reactors. that means launchable reactors
Less clear is the Japanese plan for a SPSS. But again, context. Japan and Russia and Japan and China are busy making very friendly nice talk and deals.
You might note that the russian-chinese rail deal required actions between the two peoples that are unique in human history for them. so business as usual reasoning is best described as insane. sort of like congress:-)
looks to me like holographic theory is pretty much a causality model. there are hundreds of those and they have a hard time integrating into TOES. I figure causality at this point is mainly a philosophical inquiry. for instance, it looks to me that the dominate physics causality model goes something like: "Now" is a thin shell advancing in time and it contains all the causes for the next "Now". If you are a reductionist, this probably sounds fine, but if you are not, it is pretty silly.
if you pay attention, you should also consider "block watch" programs. These are still voluntary. In seattle, people would make the point effectively enough that the cops had to stop having public organizing meeting. this was a while ago.
with the perpetuality clauses in the senate health bill, we now have what Tom Paine explicitedly described as tyranny, so what do you expect?
You picked a good authority comparison. Hawking is sort of known as a black hole guy. The same approach that rejects randomness also rejects black holes. I never paid much attention to Hawking but I would expect he was an Aristotle type while Einstein was a Platoist. So this is the real difference. And I think it is pretty easy to make fun of reductionists.
nude and naked are often distinguished, perhaps on the basis that nude does not invite penetration
but one way to look at child porn is that there is a tendency to make arousal illegal. I have heard that fathers of adolescent females become distant for a related reason.
now what a politician says does not have much meaning, but the original arguments on child porn was pretty much to prevent the exploitation of children in the making, which at the time seemed often to be commercial endeavors. if child porn was illegal, there would be no commercial market and I guess no exploited children from the making of child porn. sort like ivory trade. as far as I know, it actually did some good with ivory, but I am unconvinced that even the original child porn laws would still do much good for the original purpose. I do not think money motivates most child porn these days. but what do I know. and, of course, the laws have been expanded to the point that there are ridiculous effects.
I am kind of an old guy, so I sort of remember when animal cosmetic testing was something of an issue. Here is what I sort of remember. First of all, it is not quite about testing cosmetics, but testing the components of cosmetics. So if you have just a little of something in a cosmetic, the test animal gets a lot of the pure thing on them. Also, suppose a cosmetic was to be applied to the skin. Well it needs to be tested ingested and in the eyes and its pure components too. I hope this is helpful.
I have seen the word sentient used before, for instance by Buddhists, but never really knew the definition of the word. So this time I googled a bit and now I really really do not know the definition. So what is your meaning?
I might note that IMO that you can talk about animals with language, culture, tools, creativity, self-consciousness and love fairly emperically. Does not mean they are human but this tends to crap out a lot of simple minded definitions of human.
I do not pay much attention, but the last thing I heard about the underware bomb, is that it could have depressurized the cabin, as opposed to causing a crash. A major depressureization can kill people, for instance, suck someone unlucky out of the plane. So, how much adverse environment are we willing to put up with in order to maybe avoid this possibility. and look at all the treasure we spend on this stuff.
A local news story had the tsa seizing a kids play dough. no fooling.
Unless they have nukes or something, terrorists are not much of a threat to the country. Recognize that governments never assume an actual responsibility to say protect you from crime. So what is happening here?
I suggest we are having a wave of terrorism to change the subject from the collapse of copenhagen. Some psych warfare.
Here is something to think about. There is a lot of talk about Yemen. So they talk about the underware bomber and Yemen. But the obvious factoid that he was recruited in Londonistan is never mentioned. And then we have supposedly released gitmo detainees to yemen with bad rsults. Of course, it is not mentioned that these people were released to the saudis. And sometimes the 9/11 people nationalities have actually been mentioned in the past.
dubui is the british replacement for hong kong for dirty money transfers. hah, every government agency has a worthless prince at the top and the second in command, who actually runs things, is always a brit. when the drug lords disneyland resorts started going under, it tended to set off a wave of soverign defaults, of which greece is the leading example. so this building is not anything to admire, but something to condemn
I support Iran's national soverignity. You tend to say they cannot have nuclear power. This is an evil position, and has no legal basis. Perhaps you do not like nation-states.
On the other hand, Iranian nuclear weapons would not be helpful. And there is actually some basis for taking that position.
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December 27, 2009 (LPAC))—Regular, scheduled train service began on the high-speed rail line between central China's Wuhan and the southern coast city of Guangzhou (formerly, the British Canton). The 665-mile journey, which used to take 10.5 hours, was complete in under three. The train's average speed was 217 miles a hour, reaching at one point a speed of 244.9 mph. For comparison, the average speed for high-speed trains in Japan is 151 mph and in France, 172 mph.
This line, which was started in 2005, is only part of a massive upgrading of China's rail network. In September, officials said they planned to build 42 high-speed lines by 2012 with a total length of 8,075 miles as part of efforts to spur economic growth. When completed the high-speed rail lines will service areas including about 90% of China's population. This is part of an ambitious rail development program aimed at increasing the national network from the current 53,000 miles to 75,000, making it the most extensive rail system outside the United States.
The program of rail development had been already planned and approved by the time the world economic crisis hit in 2008. China's great stimulus program has been used only to increase the pace of the project.
China's justification for network is based on sound principles of physical economy, Xinhua reports. The high-speed trains do not only shorten the distances between cities, but also change the speed of China's economic growth, said Wang Xiaoguang, a professor with the Chinese Academy of Governance. China, a nation with vast geography and worried about the wide income gap between its highly developed coastal areas and the lagging interior, is looking to railways to help spread the wealth, he said. China has launched the strategy of developing the west and invigorating the central region for about 10 years, thus reducing social and economic imbalances. But the initiative has been hampered by slow and expensive transportation for passengers and cargo. However, "things will change in the future as fast-train lines may help reduce these problems," Wang said. A high-speed rail line linking Zhengzhou, capital of central China's Henan Province and Xi'an, the ancient capital in the northwest, will be opened soon.
Besides opening China's central and western regions for intensive development, the high-speed rail will allow the country to deal with a uniquely Chinese problem. "In the traffic peak periods such as the Spring Festival when the Chinese go home for family get-togethers, the railway bureaus have to suspend freight transportation to guarantee smooth passenger flow," according to Wang. "The bottleneck is expected to be eliminated. As high-speed passenger trains are easing the traffic pressure, the railways will focus more on cargo transportation."
In addition, one of the goals of rail development is to eliminate the need for short-haul air travel and cargo, which in any case is severely constrained as to the overall volume of people and cargo.
And, of course, one of the very objectives of China's overall development is to eliminate the very phenomenon of migrant workers by locating useful, advanced work in the interior.
your legal analysis looks pretty good, though a return to normal forcast is whistling in the dark. figure this in now in the court of public opinion.
and in your forcast, it has already demonstrated to be wrong in a possibly relevant way: looks like it is an independent investigation, rather than an internal review from a news article with a google.
you agw people like to treat everything as technical and non-political and certainly no conspiracy
a few things
the queens recent speech china-led response australia bailing danish parlimentary leader statements lord mocenton? in saint paul and for conspiracy
consider holden, us science czar so i got a phone call a few days ago with the following content
holden in say the 1970's pushed antrogenic global cooling. when agw came a long, he immeadiately pushed that. there is a 2003 email in the climate archives that has him talking about everyone has to be true believers in global warming. maybe his instructions took wih cru
and my best guess about his record is that he does not like human economic activities. there has been a lot of that going around since the 60's
so the ball is rolling and hopefully a lot of policy types and politicians will go down. the australian government may go down, and so on
as to why i hope jones will go to jail, it would represent a valuable political shift, which is going on right now
as to conspiracy and to contempt, since i like to reference FOIA-like because he is not in the US, in response to your email i googled and read the actual us law. It seems to me that in the penalty section there was no mention of contempt. It seems it is actually breaking statue law. but yoy are right about the foia penalties.
as to conspiracy, he at least tried to induce others to delete an email. and conspiracy to break the law is not particularly a foia thing, and i expect there is a possibility of jail time.
anyway, the way things have worked, both sides will find a scapegoat useful.
i suspect you are too modest and i will end up being creamed and it will take me a year to figure out what happened.
i sort of figure seperating out the concept from the metric helps you a little.
so you are very reductionistic. this works maybe for a simple system, for instance a company. on the other hand, i doubt it works for a complex system.
and it is very psychological, so i think it fair to ask what your metric is for belief systems, but i guess you already answered that with kind of an individual pragmatism. there is a little truth in that. for instance, if i was designing a science experiment, i might resort to logical positivism. i am a little suspicious of that position, including where i got it.
perhaps here is a key question: is the universe both lawful and knowable? if it is, there can be a metric on belief systems that is based on conformance to fundamental principles of the universe and that would tend to create something like your value, but with a metric that is more physical.
given that this a dead thread, i doubt many people would normally be reading it.
and for the right complex system to consider, let us try a national economy
Well, on hobbes all i really know is some glosses and a context. I do seem to recall a one against all thing which seems pretty reductionistic and reduces man to just another beast
but with reference to the policy table, for the two sides, look at the queens recent speech and the china led response. in your sense, i do not think there is a policy table. and i suspect copenhagen will demonstrate that.
anyway, to accept AWG one of the things you need to accept is that the computer models are predictive. we are on slashdot and there is probably a little sophistication about computer output. given the last ten years of temperature data, it seems that this is a quite reasonable problem to raise.
now assuming everything was available, i do not have the resources to do a check. but nation states do. and i think it has been happening.
anyway, i am not at any policy table, but i get to listen in just a bit and i do not think things are going your way. and i am very pleased from my perspective, if i was god-forbid an AWG type, one thing i would do is start building cookie cutter nuclear power. i would fund all fusion power options. funny, these options do not get much media time. you might look to hobbes contextually to get an idea why not.
as to being dangerous, for instance to empires, i am not very dangerous, but i try a bit.
but consider there are a lot of FOIA like act requests
jones deleted an email and requested multiple others to do the same, per one of the climategate emails
in the us, that tends to put people in jail
and again note that legal stuff is not usually a matter of statistical analysis, so i do not think systematic evidence is required.
pooh, on slashdot we had a story about a guy named white. if you give credence to his story, it looks like jail time for accidently downloading a single child porn image, which he promptly deleted. as of yet, there is no claim of systematically downloading child porn.
so why do you think systematically is relevant? and if you do, why are you picking on the russian guy?
i am glad you enjoyed my replies. i have some theory that asking questions are useful. i do not think i am very good at it. it often took me days of thinking to answer one email.
anyway, i liked your reply. i note that it involved tech and i cannot criticize utility per se. i wonder where you got the idea. I would be curious to know what your utility metric is.
anyway, i have never much considered utility directly as a basis for economics and it gives me a certain perspective, so i am happy to have read your reply.
the exact relationship is not obvious to me, but consider a wood burning economy and a fusion economy, both of the same size. there is a very big difference in say air pollution
and face it, tech is how the species makes its living and always has been. so this observation is really the start of a competent economics. and tech generation is pretty much off the board of the usual taking heads
i note you treat wealth in a sense as a psycological issue. but a lack of food is sort of a physics problem, and growing enough is also a physics problem.
i prefer to consider wealth as a species existential issue and use very proccess oriented approach, starting with
wealth is that which produces wealth
which is also very generation oriented
as far as idiocy is concerned, it is useful to recognize that mainstream economics is not predictive, so what are you really looking at when you consider it.
hah, how about evidence of a criminal conspiracy to destroy evidence?
i find it peculiar that in this comment set you found it possible to ignore this in your response.
and if it is possible to ignore that, then it might be fair to ignore everything cru has done, including any science.
as to your particular response, crime is mostly locally defined. the exceptions tend to be things like genocide, which might be relevant. as far as the russian hacker, I would have to know more about russian criminal code. and then there is almost always a national security exception, which i speculate might be relevant here.
being a bit mean, which i did not start out to be, who is the denier here?
your argument is fine as far as individuals are concerned
but three points
jones felt free to ask perhaps four others to engage in a criminal conspiracy which suggests he had reason to believe they would be cooperative
jones organized attacks on the peer review process, and a valid peer review process is a requirement for the validity of the whole endeavor as science. it certainly makes honest individual scientists ineffective and i suppose has some effect on what they put their time into, if they are academics, publication is a big career issue.
so we already have one criminal conspiracy, so looking for conspiracy based on whatever is reasonable. admittedly, the act of adjusting data is not particularly interesting, but i seem to a recall a china dataset where the claimed procedure was not followed, and happened to result in a temperature increase
Slashdot Mirror
so I am an old guy, and i have always been blind in one eye. sometimes it is a bother. but let us concentrate on the old part. a peer I know got significantly rich doing programming and he is I think fully or close to it blind. I figure the healthy should accomodate disabilities, but the disabled should not expect their lives to be fair, pretty much like the rest of us. What we all need is the possibility of success. but I have no sympathy for these universities. they get a lot of tax payer money and they can deal with public policy issues without getting sued.
You do not have it quite right.
The bigger picture is what counts. Russia, China, and India, and I suspect Japan, are all strongly tending to very deep cooperation. This is not due to some historical friendship!
On space stuff, I think of the recent economic policy announcements by the Russians, which puts an emphasis, not the biggest emphasis, but an emphasis on space technology, and in context nuclear powered space tech. And Russian and India just signed a nuclear deal that spits in the face of Obamba and happens to open up cooperation on light weight nuclear reactors. that means launchable reactors
Less clear is the Japanese plan for a SPSS. But again, context. Japan and Russia and Japan and China are busy making very friendly nice talk and deals.
You might note that the russian-chinese rail deal required actions between the two peoples that are unique in human history for them. so business as usual reasoning is best described as insane. sort of like congress:-)
Ha Ha, try this
looks to me like holographic theory is pretty much a causality model. there are hundreds of those and they have a hard time integrating into TOES. I figure causality at this point is mainly a philosophical inquiry. for instance, it looks to me that the dominate physics causality model goes something like: "Now" is a thin shell advancing in time and it contains all the causes for the next "Now". If you are a reductionist, this probably sounds fine, but if you are not, it is pretty silly.
if you pay attention, you should also consider "block watch" programs. These are still voluntary. In seattle, people would make the point effectively enough that the cops had to stop having public organizing meeting. this was a while ago.
with the perpetuality clauses in the senate health bill, we now have what Tom Paine explicitedly described as tyranny, so what do you expect?
You picked a good authority comparison. Hawking is sort of known as a black hole guy. The same approach that rejects randomness also rejects black holes. I never paid much attention to Hawking but I would expect he was an Aristotle type while Einstein was a Platoist. So this is the real difference. And I think it is pretty easy to make fun of reductionists.
nude and naked are often distinguished, perhaps on the basis that nude does not invite penetration
but one way to look at child porn is that there is a tendency to make arousal illegal. I have heard that fathers of adolescent females become distant for a related reason.
now what a politician says does not have much meaning, but the original arguments on child porn was pretty much to prevent the exploitation of children in the making, which at the time seemed often to be commercial endeavors. if child porn was illegal, there would be no commercial market and I guess no exploited children from the making of child porn. sort like ivory trade. as far as I know, it actually did some good with ivory, but I am unconvinced that even the original child porn laws would still do much good for the original purpose. I do not think money motivates most child porn these days. but what do I know. and, of course, the laws have been expanded to the point that there are ridiculous effects.
I am kind of an old guy, so I sort of remember when animal cosmetic testing was something of an issue. Here is what I sort of remember. First of all, it is not quite about testing cosmetics, but testing the components of cosmetics. So if you have just a little of something in a cosmetic, the test animal gets a lot of the pure thing on them. Also, suppose a cosmetic was to be applied to the skin. Well it needs to be tested ingested and in the eyes and its pure components too. I hope this is helpful.
I have seen the word sentient used before, for instance by Buddhists, but never really knew the definition of the word. So this time I googled a bit and now I really really do not know the definition. So what is your meaning?
I might note that IMO that you can talk about animals with language, culture, tools, creativity, self-consciousness and love fairly emperically. Does not mean they are human but this tends to crap out a lot of simple minded definitions of human.
I do not pay much attention, but the last thing I heard about the underware bomb, is that it could have depressurized the cabin, as opposed to causing a crash. A major depressureization can kill people, for instance, suck someone unlucky out of the plane. So, how much adverse environment are we willing to put up with in order to maybe avoid this possibility. and look at all the treasure we spend on this stuff.
A local news story had the tsa seizing a kids play dough. no fooling.
Unless they have nukes or something, terrorists are not much of a threat to the country. Recognize that governments never assume an actual responsibility to say protect you from crime. So what is happening here?
I suggest we are having a wave of terrorism to change the subject from the collapse of copenhagen. Some psych warfare.
Here is something to think about. There is a lot of talk about Yemen. So they talk about the underware bomber and Yemen. But the obvious factoid that he was recruited in Londonistan is never mentioned. And then we have supposedly released gitmo detainees to yemen with bad rsults. Of course, it is not mentioned that these people were released to the saudis. And sometimes the 9/11 people nationalities have actually been mentioned in the past.
Figure you are being taken for a ride.
more real estate bubble
dubui is the british replacement for hong kong for dirty money transfers. hah, every government agency has a worthless prince at the top and the second in command, who actually runs things, is always a brit. when the drug lords disneyland resorts started going under, it tended to set off a wave of soverign defaults, of which greece is the leading example. so this building is not anything to admire, but something to condemn
I support Iran's national soverignity. You tend to say they cannot have nuclear power. This is an evil position, and has no legal basis. Perhaps you do not like nation-states.
On the other hand, Iranian nuclear weapons would not be helpful. And there is actually some basis for taking that position.
China Launches the Fastest Train on Earth
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December 27, 2009 (LPAC))—Regular, scheduled train service began on the high-speed rail line between central China's Wuhan and the southern coast city of Guangzhou (formerly, the British Canton). The 665-mile journey, which used to take 10.5 hours, was complete in under three. The train's average speed was 217 miles a hour, reaching at one point a speed of 244.9 mph. For comparison, the average speed for high-speed trains in Japan is 151 mph and in France, 172 mph.
This line, which was started in 2005, is only part of a massive upgrading of China's rail network. In September, officials said they planned to build 42 high-speed lines by 2012 with a total length of 8,075 miles as part of efforts to spur economic growth. When completed the high-speed rail lines will service areas including about 90% of China's population. This is part of an ambitious rail development program aimed at increasing the national network from the current 53,000 miles to 75,000, making it the most extensive rail system outside the United States.
The program of rail development had been already planned and approved by the time the world economic crisis hit in 2008. China's great stimulus program has been used only to increase the pace of the project.
China's justification for network is based on sound principles of physical economy, Xinhua reports. The high-speed trains do not only shorten the distances between cities, but also change the speed of China's economic growth, said Wang Xiaoguang, a professor with the Chinese Academy of Governance. China, a nation with vast geography and worried about the wide income gap between its highly developed coastal areas and the lagging interior, is looking to railways to help spread the wealth, he said. China has launched the strategy of developing the west and invigorating the central region for about 10 years, thus reducing social and economic imbalances. But the initiative has been hampered by slow and expensive transportation for passengers and cargo. However, "things will change in the future as fast-train lines may help reduce these problems," Wang said. A high-speed rail line linking Zhengzhou, capital of central China's Henan Province and Xi'an, the ancient capital in the northwest, will be opened soon.
Besides opening China's central and western regions for intensive development, the high-speed rail will allow the country to deal with a uniquely Chinese problem. "In the traffic peak periods such as the Spring Festival when the Chinese go home for family get-togethers, the railway bureaus have to suspend freight transportation to guarantee smooth passenger flow," according to Wang. "The bottleneck is expected to be eliminated. As high-speed passenger trains are easing the traffic pressure, the railways will focus more on cargo transportation."
In addition, one of the goals of rail development is to eliminate the need for short-haul air travel and cargo, which in any case is severely constrained as to the overall volume of people and cargo.
And, of course, one of the very objectives of China's overall development is to eliminate the very phenomenon of migrant workers by locating useful, advanced work in the interior.
your legal analysis looks pretty good, though a return to normal forcast is whistling in the dark. figure this in now in the court of public opinion.
and in your forcast, it has already demonstrated to be wrong in a possibly relevant way: looks like it is an independent investigation, rather than an internal review from a news article with a google.
you agw people like to treat everything as technical and non-political and certainly no conspiracy
a few things
the queens recent speech
china-led response
australia bailing
danish parlimentary leader statements
lord mocenton? in saint paul
and for conspiracy
consider holden, us science czar
so i got a phone call a few days ago with the following content
holden in say the 1970's pushed antrogenic global cooling. when agw came a long, he immeadiately pushed that. there is a 2003 email in the climate archives that has him talking about everyone has to be true believers in global warming. maybe his instructions took wih cru
and my best guess about his record is that he does not like human economic activities. there has been a lot of that going around since the 60's
so the ball is rolling and hopefully a lot of policy types and politicians will go down. the australian government may go down, and so on
as to why i hope jones will go to jail, it would represent a valuable political shift, which is going on right now
as to conspiracy and to contempt, since i like to reference FOIA-like because he is not in the US, in response to your email i googled and read the actual us law. It seems to me that in the penalty section there was no mention of contempt. It seems it is actually breaking statue law. but yoy are right about the foia penalties.
as to conspiracy, he at least tried to induce others to delete an email. and conspiracy to break the law is not particularly a foia thing, and i expect there is a possibility of jail time.
anyway, the way things have worked, both sides will find a scapegoat useful.
hi harmony
i suspect you are too modest and i will end up being creamed and it will take me a year to figure out what happened.
i sort of figure seperating out the concept from the metric helps you a little.
so you are very reductionistic. this works maybe for a simple system, for instance a company. on the other hand, i doubt it works for a complex system.
and it is very psychological, so i think it fair to ask what your metric is for belief systems, but i guess you already answered that with kind of an individual pragmatism. there is a little truth in that. for instance, if i was designing a science experiment, i might resort to logical positivism. i am a little suspicious of that position, including where i got it.
perhaps here is a key question: is the universe both lawful and knowable? if it is, there can be a metric on belief systems that is based on conformance to fundamental principles of the universe and that would tend to create something like your value, but with a metric that is more physical.
given that this a dead thread, i doubt many people would normally be reading it.
and for the right complex system to consider, let us try a national economy
Well, on hobbes all i really know is some glosses and a context. I do seem to recall a one against all thing which seems pretty reductionistic and reduces man to just another beast
but with reference to the policy table, for the two sides, look at the queens recent speech and the china led response. in your sense, i do not think there is a policy table. and i suspect copenhagen will demonstrate that.
anyway, to accept AWG one of the things you need to accept is that the computer models are predictive. we are on slashdot and there is probably a little sophistication about computer output. given the last ten years of temperature data, it seems that this is a quite reasonable problem to raise.
now assuming everything was available, i do not have the resources to do a check. but nation states do. and i think it has been happening.
anyway, i am not at any policy table, but i get to listen in just a bit and i do not think things are going your way. and i am very pleased from my perspective, if i was god-forbid an AWG type, one thing i would do is start building cookie cutter nuclear power. i would fund all fusion power options. funny, these options do not get much media time. you might look to hobbes contextually to get an idea why not.
as to being dangerous, for instance to empires, i am not very dangerous, but i try a bit.
perhaps not yet demonstrated systematic crime
but consider there are a lot of FOIA like act requests
jones deleted an email and requested multiple others to do the same, per one of the climategate emails
in the us, that tends to put people in jail
and again note that legal stuff is not usually a matter of statistical analysis, so i do not think systematic evidence is required.
pooh, on slashdot we had a story about a guy named white. if you give credence to his story, it looks like jail time for accidently downloading a single child porn image, which he promptly deleted. as of yet, there is no claim of systematically downloading child porn.
so why do you think systematically is relevant? and if you do, why are you picking on the russian guy?
thank for your reply
i apologize for the tardiness of my reply
i am glad you enjoyed my replies. i have some theory that asking questions are useful. i do not think i am very good at it. it often took me days of thinking to answer one email.
anyway, i liked your reply. i note that it involved tech and i cannot criticize utility per se. i wonder where you got the idea. I would be curious to know what your utility metric is.
anyway, i have never much considered utility directly as a basis for economics and it gives me a certain perspective, so i am happy to have read your reply.
pollution related to the size of the economy
the exact relationship is not obvious to me,
but consider a wood burning economy and a fusion economy, both of the same size. there is a very big difference in say air pollution
and face it, tech is how the species makes its living and always has been. so this observation is really the start of a competent economics. and tech generation is pretty much off the board of the usual taking heads
thank you for your response
i apologize for a tardy response.
i note you treat wealth in a sense as a psycological issue. but a lack of food is sort of a physics problem, and growing enough is also a physics problem.
i prefer to consider wealth as a species existential issue and use very proccess oriented approach, starting with
wealth is that which produces wealth
which is also very generation oriented
as far as idiocy is concerned, it is useful to recognize that mainstream economics is not predictive, so what are you really looking at when you consider it.
hah, how about evidence of a criminal conspiracy to destroy evidence?
i find it peculiar that in this comment set you found it possible to ignore this in your response.
and if it is possible to ignore that, then it might be fair to ignore everything cru has done, including any science.
as to your particular response, crime is mostly locally defined. the exceptions tend to be things like genocide, which might be relevant. as far as the russian hacker, I would have to know more about russian criminal code. and then there is almost always a national security exception, which i speculate might be relevant here.
being a bit mean, which i did not start out to be, who is the denier here?
come on, i think it was only 60 megs and presumedly a lot was simple data
and this is no longer a statistical endeavor. for instance one email can put jones in jail, and the email is there, and i hope it happens.
your argument is fine as far as individuals are concerned
but three points
jones felt free to ask perhaps four others to engage in a criminal conspiracy which suggests he had reason to believe they would be cooperative
jones organized attacks on the peer review process, and a valid peer review process is a requirement for the validity of the whole endeavor as science. it certainly makes honest individual scientists ineffective and i suppose has some effect on what they put their time into, if they are academics, publication is a big career issue.
so we already have one criminal conspiracy, so looking for conspiracy based on whatever is reasonable. admittedly, the act of adjusting data is not particularly interesting, but i seem to a recall a china dataset where the claimed procedure was not followed, and happened to result in a temperature increase
can we agree there is court of law evidence of crime?