FISA is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
It is the U.S. law that governs the way U.S. intelligence agencies collect information on foreign entities, including the use of wiretaps,electronic eavesdropping, etc. It used to be that the agencies had to name specific targets, i.e. Osama bin Laden. This law allows them to name groups, i.e. Al Queda
the case highlights the consequence of having online commons controlled by private corporations
There is no such thing as "online commons" nor is there such a thing as "public online space" because all the servers that make up the internet are owned and controlled by someone or some organization.
The only way there would be such things is if there were publicly available, public owned servers, and even then, said servers would be controlled by the government and would be subject to the governments rules on internet use.
Breaking a contract is a matter of civil law not criminal
Really? So, if I enter into a contract to manage your money and then take it all, or better yet, churn it through numerous stocks and bonds racking up huge service fees which deplete your funds, it is a not a criminal matter?
Fraudulently entering into a contract is fraud.
Can you honestly say that you have even read every TOS for every site you have membership on?
Caveat emptor. Whether or not one reads the TOS is irrelevant when one checks the box saying one has read and agree to abide by the TOS. If you are going to declare that you have read and are going to abide by the TOS, then it is your responsibility to do so.
Do you honestly believe that it is reasonable to charge someone with a felony for not following any random thing that is put into the TOS?
It is not a random thing. It is a very specific and intended thing. It was put in as a condition of access. Lying about one's identity is obtaining access by fraud. Fraudulently obtaining access is a felony. So, QED, yes.
Do you honestly think that providing a false name is the same level of crime as hacking a system?
That is irrelevant.
Because that is exactly what the prosecution is arguing in this case, and from reading the law, that seems to be what it says.
Under this reasoning, it should not be considered burglary if one leaves one's door unlocked. And, it should not considered car theft if the keys are left in the car. And, those 419 scams are not illegal because the scammer convinced the victim of his honesty.
The crime is in the intentional act. You may not like it, but it is the truth.
Are you required to put First and Last name? Are you commonly known and addressed as "MiddleName LastName"?
Mistyping one's name is not intentional and thus does not have one of the requirements of a crime (intent).
And it is not reasonable to assume for the user to enter correct information if the service provider does not care, as a general rule, what is entered.
No. The provider cares as the provider has it made one of the conditions of use. They just don't check every single entry preferring to rely on the honor system. You do understand the honor system, don't you? Or, are you saying that one should assume that the honor system is obsolete?
Are you suggesting that everyone should be treated as a liar and a criminal because you and those like you would willing be liars and criminals?
Please explain how "we can basically jail anyone that uses the web, a phone, or any device with a computer in it such as a car or a washing machine" in detail.
Or, are you arguing by hyperbole, which is basically a lie?
I point you to all the phishing sites, the spam sites, the malware sites, etc.
What you describe is what is happening. The only thing is that the spiders share the same big web, and that the spiders victims are also able to wander around the same big web.
Actually, that is incorrect. An acoustic and an electric guitar are fundamentally the same. They are both musical instruments which generate tones through the use of strings which are set to vibrating by strumming or picking with fingers or a pick.
The only difference is the method of amplification, which is either acoustical resonance or electrical amplification.
The biggest difference between the type of guitars is that the electric guitar's sound can be processed and altered between vibrating the string and the generation of the actual amplified tone.
If today's RIAs no longer resemble the 'Web,' then should we be shoehorning these apps into the Web's infrastructure
No, we should not be shoehorning these apps into the Web's infrastructure. The reason it is being done is because some people see using a web-based GUI and HTTP as the quick and cheap way regardless of whether it is the proper, correct, or safe way.
Publishing will go digital, kicking and screaming, but they'll go
Thus will end the history of Mankind. A thousand or ten thousand years from now, there will be no books, no written history of any kind. A hundred years from the day print books go away, history will be in the hands of those who control the bits and bytes. And, history will be changed with a simple PERL script.
And, when something happens, a supervirus, a massive EMP pulse, whatever, then access to the data, and possibly the data itself will be gone.
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FISA is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
It is the U.S. law that governs the way U.S. intelligence agencies collect information on foreign entities, including the use of wiretaps,electronic eavesdropping, etc. It used to be that the agencies had to name specific targets, i.e. Osama bin Laden. This law allows them to name groups, i.e. Al Queda
I always believed, regardless of the hype, that he was "just another ethically challenged politician."
I guess that is why I am not surprised by this.
It is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
It is the laws that govern how the government may snoop on communications made by people who are not citizens of the United States.
And,how does anyone know you understand FISA?
Unfortunately, the "right" direction depends on one's point of view.
On this issue, both you and "Corrupt" have a point of view that his direction is "wrong" while others believe it is right.
The problem is that, regardless of what you think, you don't get to determine right and wrong for everyone.
the case highlights the consequence of having online commons controlled by private corporations
There is no such thing as "online commons" nor is there such a thing as "public online space" because all the servers that make up the internet are owned and controlled by someone or some organization.
The only way there would be such things is if there were publicly available, public owned servers, and even then, said servers would be controlled by the government and would be subject to the governments rules on internet use.
Breaking a contract is a matter of civil law not criminal
Really? So, if I enter into a contract to manage your money and then take it all, or better yet, churn it through numerous stocks and bonds racking up huge service fees which deplete your funds, it is a not a criminal matter?
Fraudulently entering into a contract is fraud.
Can you honestly say that you have even read every TOS for every site you have membership on?
Caveat emptor. Whether or not one reads the TOS is irrelevant when one checks the box saying one has read and agree to abide by the TOS. If you are going to declare that you have read and are going to abide by the TOS, then it is your responsibility to do so.
Do you honestly believe that it is reasonable to charge someone with a felony for not following any random thing that is put into the TOS?
It is not a random thing. It is a very specific and intended thing. It was put in as a condition of access. Lying about one's identity is obtaining access by fraud. Fraudulently obtaining access is a felony. So, QED, yes.
Do you honestly think that providing a false name is the same level of crime as hacking a system?
That is irrelevant.
Because that is exactly what the prosecution is arguing in this case, and from reading the law, that seems to be what it says.
Under this reasoning, it should not be considered burglary if one leaves one's door unlocked. And, it should not considered car theft if the keys are left in the car. And, those 419 scams are not illegal because the scammer convinced the victim of his honesty.
The crime is in the intentional act. You may not like it, but it is the truth.
Yes. You break the law, you pay the price.
And, you are still a dumbass.
Your analogy fails because it is false. Your argument is a "slippery slope" argument.
Using your argument, there should be no laws because there could be some "unintended consequences if it is used by over zealous DA's."
Congratulations, you are a dumb ass.
Are you required to put First and Last name? Are you commonly known and addressed as "MiddleName LastName"?
Mistyping one's name is not intentional and thus does not have one of the requirements of a crime (intent).
And it is not reasonable to assume for the user to enter correct information if the service provider does not care, as a general rule, what is entered.
No. The provider cares as the provider has it made one of the conditions of use. They just don't check every single entry preferring to rely on the honor system. You do understand the honor system, don't you? Or, are you saying that one should assume that the honor system is obsolete?
Are you suggesting that everyone should be treated as a liar and a criminal because you and those like you would willing be liars and criminals?
Since the government passed the applicable law.
Wow, you are a dumbass.
This law sets an absolute standard of behavior and a set of punishments for non-compliance.
The absolute standard of behavior is "Do not obtain access to a system fraudulently".
Are you really too stupid to understand that?
Please explain how "we can basically jail anyone that uses the web, a phone, or any device with a computer in it such as a car or a washing machine" in detail.
Or, are you arguing by hyperbole, which is basically a lie?
It is not a bad law. It is a unique and inventive use of a law intended to punish people who crack into systems.
And, they have a point as the terms of service for MySpace state that, in order to use the service, one must provide correct information.
I guess the site was running on the laptop and it went back to 2015.
he maintains that Gates' departure from Microsoft doesn't mean the end of proprietary software
No shit. Does RMS think that Gates is the source of all proprietary software?
I have no respect for anyone who is a zealot and has to resort to bashing those who disagree them him. RMS fits that bill.
I point you to all the phishing sites, the spam sites, the malware sites, etc.
What you describe is what is happening. The only thing is that the spiders share the same big web, and that the spiders victims are also able to wander around the same big web.
Actually, that is incorrect. An acoustic and an electric guitar are fundamentally the same. They are both musical instruments which generate tones through the use of strings which are set to vibrating by strumming or picking with fingers or a pick.
The only difference is the method of amplification, which is either acoustical resonance or electrical amplification.
The biggest difference between the type of guitars is that the electric guitar's sound can be processed and altered between vibrating the string and the generation of the actual amplified tone.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
If today's RIAs no longer resemble the 'Web,' then should we be shoehorning these apps into the Web's infrastructure
No, we should not be shoehorning these apps into the Web's infrastructure. The reason it is being done is because some people see using a web-based GUI and HTTP as the quick and cheap way regardless of whether it is the proper, correct, or safe way.
Since when is the truth flaimbait?
Publishing will go digital, kicking and screaming, but they'll go
Thus will end the history of Mankind. A thousand or ten thousand years from now, there will be no books, no written history of any kind. A hundred years from the day print books go away, history will be in the hands of those who control the bits and bytes. And, history will be changed with a simple PERL script.
And, when something happens, a supervirus, a massive EMP pulse, whatever, then access to the data, and possibly the data itself will be gone.
99% of software licensed under the GPL is junk.
I don't give a fuck what RMS or "clipperz" want.