None of that matters either. What matters is a culture and family that values intelligence and education and a desire to learn. Parents that read to their children are important because they understand the importance of books and education. What makes you think a family that doesn't have BOOKS and doesn't READ is going to have a computer for anything other than games?
No, the argument is you are wrong because you are cherry picking and using misleading vividness. And, in the above post you set up a straw man. Now, tell me, how many black people do you know up there in Alaska?
You sound like so many self-hating, especially southern, white people because you are subconsciously racist, thinking that minorities are incompetent and needing a hand up.
And, they better be current, unlike your stupid comment below. You want to dredge up something from the 1930s? You sound like this black guy I know who blamed slavery for his lack of success even though his family came to the U.S. in the 1960s and his father and grandfather were successful.
I have used Windows and Linux since 1995. Windows wins hands down.
Why Windows: games applications hardware support works with all mp3 players, phones, cameras, printers, etc. stability is used at work almost everyone else uses it does everything I need and want it to do it "just works" no CLI needed, but two CLIs available can run Linux in a VM
Problems with Linux distros: hardware support, especially video cards and wireless networking systems often need tweaking to get things working inconsistent UI fonts OS development is geared to server use no comparable alternatives for many applications, especially Photoshop, MSOffice, and personal finance software too much beta quality software too much abandonware too often requires use of CLI to accomplish tasks FLOSS fanatics
Things I have had to do under Linux that I have never had to do with Windows: edit settings and recompile the OS to get a device working edit a system file to get a USB device working edit a system file to get a device driver working edit a system file to get the GUI working edit a system file to get dual monitor support working edit a system file to get multiple cards working change from one server implementation to another to get a device working disable one device to get a different device to work
Really, it often seems like the Linux motto is "Do it hard and ugly".
There is absolutely no compelling reason for me to stop using Windows and switch to Linux on the desktop and some pretty compelling reasons to stay on Windows.
The developers' program fee is only part of the cost of development. One only breaks even if one ignores the other costs of development, including the time spent developing the application. The margin on each app sale is split between all costs and is not solely put towards the program cost. It will take a lot longer to break even because of that.
The FBI will not come to one's house; rape and kill one's wife, girlfriend, mother, daughters, and/or sisters while making one watch; and then torture one to death, cut off one's head and leave it in one's lap for the police.
Comparing the FBI to the drug cartels is a text book example of one' foolish hyperbole undermining one's argument.
The biggest contributors to the most successful open source projects are paid developers.
The problem is not with the most successful.The problem is with the marginally successful. The "most successful open source projects" make up less than 0.1% of all FLOSS projects.
Users should use FLOSS instead of closed-sourced code becase FLOSS developers haven't "better things to do than working on their own code"
That may be true while they are in college or living in their mother's basement without a job, girlfriend,wife, and/or kids. But, as soon as real life intrudes, they will have better things to do than working on their own code. This is why so many projects on FreshMeat, SourceForge, etc turn into zombie projects with a growing list of bugs and feature requests, but with no code updates in the last few (or more) years.
Will Microsoft fix bugs in Adobe Reader if I report them, because Windows is closed-source?
They might, and give the result to Adobe. But, more than likely, they will pressure Adobe to fix it. Most likely, Adobe will fix it because it is a bad reflection on THEIR product on which they make their living.
Will Microsoft develop a driver for my video card if it isn't supported in this version of Windows, because it's closed-source?
This happens quite a bit. Just look at video driver support built into Windows over the last 10 or 15 years. Drivers that were not initially available from either the manufacturer or Microsoft end up being built into Windows in later updates or releases. Many times, it involves device vendors that go out of business. And, of course, device vendors always include a driver for the current version of Windows because it has 90% of the home market.
Whatever you may think is the intent, the actual action and result is what I have posted. I have seen it in forums for the last 15 years or so. If developers can't support their application, then maybe they shouldn't be making and releasing them.
Or, maybe, they should be charging for their applications so they can hire support people. But, then they would have to make sure they only support those that are paying for the application, and especially not those that are using a version modified by themselves or a third party because such software may not work as originally written. But, then, it would have to be closed source.....
You should really go back through the comments in many FLOSS vs closed source and latest-MS-vulnerability articles here on Slashdot. Invariably, there is a host of comments to the effect that everyone should use FLOSS because it is so much better/safer/more ethical than closed source.
Hell, just look at the RMS articles. RMS is completely against closed source software, and his followers spout his dogma in the comments here.
Or, on one's own application, or doing one's paying job, or paying attention to one's spouse and/or children, or just having a life. While you are right, you are limiting things too much. It is something many geeks don't seem to get, that there is life beyond computers and technology.
But, the argument made by many FLOSSers is that everyone SHOULD use FLOSS and if they did, the internet would be a better place. And, if someone uses FLOSS and finds problems, FLOSSers say "You have the code. Fix it!" which is suggesting everyone who uses FLOSS is obligated to fix any issue they encounter.
Yet, many FLOSSers repeatedly crow about how wonderful FLOSS is because the source is available, state that people should ONLY use FLOSS, berate people who don't use FLOSS, and say "If you don't like it, fix it" which assumes that people don't have better things to do than fix someone else's code.
I see. So, showing you the logical fallacies in your arguments makes me a troll? Logic is a huge part of science. Maybe you should learn some science and logic. Your decent in ad hominem speaks volumes about you.
You do understand you are making his point for him, right?
So, explain again why users should use FLOSS instead closed-source when they have "better things to work on than someone else's code" and can buy something that works?
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None of that matters either. What matters is a culture and family that values intelligence and education and a desire to learn. Parents that read to their children are important because they understand the importance of books and education. What makes you think a family that doesn't have BOOKS and doesn't READ is going to have a computer for anything other than games?
Damn, you are so full of shit. Read your own post and see if you can spot the racism in it.
No, the argument is you are wrong because you are cherry picking and using misleading vividness. And, in the above post you set up a straw man. Now, tell me, how many black people do you know up there in Alaska?
You sound like so many self-hating, especially southern, white people because you are subconsciously racist, thinking that minorities are incompetent and needing a hand up.
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And, they better be current, unlike your stupid comment below. You want to dredge up something from the 1930s? You sound like this black guy I know who blamed slavery for his lack of success even though his family came to the U.S. in the 1960s and his father and grandfather were successful.
To see why your statement is false, read the Freakonomics books.
I have used Windows and Linux since 1995. Windows wins hands down.
Why Windows:
games
applications
hardware support
works with all mp3 players, phones, cameras, printers, etc.
stability
is used at work
almost everyone else uses it
does everything I need and want it to do
it "just works"
no CLI needed, but two CLIs available
can run Linux in a VM
Problems with Linux distros:
hardware support, especially video cards and wireless networking
systems often need tweaking to get things working
inconsistent UI
fonts
OS development is geared to server use
no comparable alternatives for many applications, especially Photoshop, MSOffice, and personal finance software
too much beta quality software
too much abandonware
too often requires use of CLI to accomplish tasks
FLOSS fanatics
Things I have had to do under Linux that I have never had to do with Windows:
edit settings and recompile the OS to get a device working
edit a system file to get a USB device working
edit a system file to get a device driver working
edit a system file to get the GUI working
edit a system file to get dual monitor support working
edit a system file to get multiple cards working
change from one server implementation to another to get a device working
disable one device to get a different device to work
Really, it often seems like the Linux motto is "Do it hard and ugly".
There is absolutely no compelling reason for me to stop using Windows and switch to Linux on the desktop and some pretty compelling reasons to stay on Windows.
Please explain in detail how this violates the Fourth Amendment.
The developers' program fee is only part of the cost of development. One only breaks even if one ignores the other costs of development, including the time spent developing the application. The margin on each app sale is split between all costs and is not solely put towards the program cost. It will take a lot longer to break even because of that.
So, you are saying one's time has no value, that there is not opportunity cost involved?
The odds aren't good enough to be a casino. It is more like a lottery, hundreds of thousands to one against making any decent money.
The CIA won't do it either. You are thinking about criminal and extremist organizations. You know, the people you probably get your drugs from.
The only problem with your supposition is that they have displayed no consideration for anyone but themselves.
The FBI will not come to one's house; rape and kill one's wife, girlfriend, mother, daughters, and/or sisters while making one watch; and then torture one to death, cut off one's head and leave it in one's lap for the police.
Comparing the FBI to the drug cartels is a text book example of one' foolish hyperbole undermining one's argument.
The biggest contributors to the most successful open source projects are paid developers.
The problem is not with the most successful.The problem is with the marginally successful. The "most successful open source projects" make up less than 0.1% of all FLOSS projects.
Please show where in the original article modality is used. From what I have read, he does not use any modal qualifiers at all.
Users should use FLOSS instead of closed-sourced code becase FLOSS developers haven't "better things to do than working on their own code"
That may be true while they are in college or living in their mother's basement without a job, girlfriend,wife, and/or kids. But, as soon as real life intrudes, they will have better things to do than working on their own code. This is why so many projects on FreshMeat, SourceForge, etc turn into zombie projects with a growing list of bugs and feature requests, but with no code updates in the last few (or more) years.
Will Microsoft fix bugs in Adobe Reader if I report them, because Windows is closed-source?
They might, and give the result to Adobe. But, more than likely, they will pressure Adobe to fix it. Most likely, Adobe will fix it because it is a bad reflection on THEIR product on which they make their living.
Will Microsoft develop a driver for my video card if it isn't supported in this version of Windows, because it's closed-source?
This happens quite a bit. Just look at video driver support built into Windows over the last 10 or 15 years. Drivers that were not initially available from either the manufacturer or Microsoft end up being built into Windows in later updates or releases. Many times, it involves device vendors that go out of business. And, of course, device vendors always include a driver for the current version of Windows because it has 90% of the home market.
Whatever you may think is the intent, the actual action and result is what I have posted. I have seen it in forums for the last 15 years or so. If developers can't support their application, then maybe they shouldn't be making and releasing them.
Or, maybe, they should be charging for their applications so they can hire support people. But, then they would have to make sure they only support those that are paying for the application, and especially not those that are using a version modified by themselves or a third party because such software may not work as originally written. But, then, it would have to be closed source.....
You should really go back through the comments in many FLOSS vs closed source and latest-MS-vulnerability articles here on Slashdot. Invariably, there is a host of comments to the effect that everyone should use FLOSS because it is so much better/safer/more ethical than closed source.
Hell, just look at the RMS articles. RMS is completely against closed source software, and his followers spout his dogma in the comments here.
Or, on one's own application, or doing one's paying job, or paying attention to one's spouse and/or children, or just having a life. While you are right, you are limiting things too much. It is something many geeks don't seem to get, that there is life beyond computers and technology.
But, the argument made by many FLOSSers is that everyone SHOULD use FLOSS and if they did, the internet would be a better place. And, if someone uses FLOSS and finds problems, FLOSSers say "You have the code. Fix it!" which is suggesting everyone who uses FLOSS is obligated to fix any issue they encounter.
Yet, many FLOSSers repeatedly crow about how wonderful FLOSS is because the source is available, state that people should ONLY use FLOSS, berate people who don't use FLOSS, and say "If you don't like it, fix it" which assumes that people don't have better things to do than fix someone else's code.
I see. So, showing you the logical fallacies in your arguments makes me a troll? Logic is a huge part of science. Maybe you should learn some science and logic. Your decent in ad hominem speaks volumes about you.
And, every bit of FLOSS is not in my software tree and distributed separately. So, why should I fix the bug the developers think is so low priority?
You do understand you are making his point for him, right?
So, explain again why users should use FLOSS instead closed-source when they have "better things to work on than someone else's code" and can buy something that works?
B is difficult to explain in another way
That is argument from ignorance/incredulity. "I don't know how to explain B, so it must have been A".