Did you have it before? No. Do you have it now? Yes. Did they give it to you? No. Did you pay for it? No.
Sounds like stealing to me. What is it like to be an admitted thief?
If you think it is wrong, and you still do it, then you are hypocrite with no ethics. The only ones being a dick are you and people like you. That is why you all lose in court, you are selfish dicks who think if they want something they deserve it and it is OK to steal it if they can't get it on their terms.
They are losing the profit from a sale. Your whole argument is the broken window fallacy upside down.
By your arguments, all the companies should be allowed to "get in your face", because you are being a dick to them by stealing their product.
And, here is the kicker. I bet if you spent years and thousands of dollars creating a piece of software to sell and you priced it so that it would give a reasonable return on investment if it sold close to your reasonable projections, then someone put it for download on the internet and the sales were cut by a third, you would be pissed off too. But, because you don't sell what you create for a living, you don't give a shit about anyone else.
You are a selfish, pathetic, whining parasite with no ethics.
What you are doing is not civil disobedience, it is merely theft for greed's sake.
No, you do not want to pay the price, part of which is having the DRM installed as well. You don't want "some jackass company thinking that they have the right to control my property", don't use their fucking software, shithead. Is that so fucking hard? Oh, wait, once again, you want something from someone on your terms and if you are not going to get it on your terms, you are going to break the law and violate their rights.
Your "property rights" don't give you the right to steal from others and if people like you would quit stealing from companies, then DRM wouldn't exist. All your "property rights" give you is the right to not use products that you don't like.
why not download it and enjoy the game I wanted to pay for and they wanted to fuck me over for paying for it?
Because you didn't pay for it and it is wrong to do so. You have heard of right and wrong, right? By the way, you statement is a fallacy "Two wrongs make a right". No, two wrongs don't make a right, it makes two wrongs.
By the way, you do not know my opinion of DRM, so quit assigning me one, shithead.
If it is not worth buying, then it should not be worth having. There are always some people will not buy what they can get for free or steal. Been that way forever.
You are not standing up for anyone's rights. You do not have a right to other people's work. That is what makes you childish. You want something but don't want to do what it takes to get it legally, so you steal. Just because you don't like DRM, you don't have a right to make illegal copies. If you don't like the DRM, don't use the fucking software. If you don't want to pay the asking price, don't use the fucking software. Is that so hard to comprehend?
That "masters" comment is just bullshit. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you don't like the price, don't buy it and don't use it. If you don't like the DRM, don't buy it and don't use it. No one is forcing you to buy the software, so quit your whiny bitching and the stupid red-herring comments, grow the fuck up and act like a man for a change.
they think that they're overpriced and if piracy wasn't an option, they just wouldn't play it.
Unfortunately, that is not true. They would save up for the game, or buy it on credit, or even wait to buy it used. Stealing/pirating/illegally copying something is not justified because said thing has DRM or one thinks said thing is overpriced. The fact that you would do so says a lot about you and your childish, selfish morals.
There is a proportion to the damages. It has nothing to do with what the perpetrator has, owns, or makes. It has to do with the damage to the victim. He took a game that was expected to sell 15 million copies and illegally released it on the internet. Then, when the game was released, it sold 10 million copies. The damages should be the profit from those 5 million unsold games. $1.5 million seems fair to me.
You act like James Burt is the victim, but he is not. He is the perpetrator. He doesn't get to chose his punishment, the state does.
There is an old saying "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime". Well, we can update it with "If you can't pay the fine, don't do the crime."
Were you born a asshole or have you worked at it your whole life?
The question is how many would have sold if the game was not put out for unauthorized and illegal copying? It could have been 10 million and 1, or it could have been 20 million.
What are they afraid is going to happen? Are they afraid iPhone users will drop their contract (pay an enormous cancellation fee) and switch to an android-based phone? "
Or, their customer might do what many people do, switch companies after their contract is up to get a new or different phone.
Your point was that "people by (sic) an iPhone because it is Apple and cool..." If that's the case, are you suggesting that "Android" will be cool (and thus a threat) because of the usage of its name in the appstore?
No, and it is interesting that you are trying to put words in my mouth by selectively quoting me. Shows that you can't support your arguments honestly. What it will do is raise awareness of Android and Android based products in the minds of Apple appstore customers. It is basically an advertisement for a competitor on Apple's site.
The people missing the point is you and the people like you who are bashing Apple for behaving in its own best interest. Do you think any company wants any information about a competitor on its own website? No company wants their customers to be able to go to their own website and have those customers see their competitor's name or product referenced.
That is irrelevant, because the could do so. They could refuse to carry those book. And, you will notice those are the titles of books specifically about or directly related to Amazon.com. The app in question is not directly related to Android or Google, but the app's description mentions Android directly.
Your comparison is apples and grapes.
I see you think everyone's life revolves around technology. Many people by an iPhone because it is Apple and cool. Many people buy an iPod because iPods are popular. They are not buying technology, they are buying fashion accessories that have a particular function.
Apple uses Intel processors with proprietary BIOS and OS. Some of what is in a Dell will be found in a Mac, but several important parts won't be. That is why you can't go to the Apple store and buy a copy of OS X and install it on a Dell. If you don't believe me, give it a try.
The Washington Post does not sell the book, only it's reviewer's opinion of the book. At no time does the Washington Post have to mention the NYT or it's best seller list and Post's customers never see the competitor's name in the Post's review.
In this case, the description of the product in the App store mentions Android and the Android contest. Android and Google is in direct competition with Apple and its devices.
Do you think you would see "#4 best seller on Amazon.com" on a book sold at Borders or Barnes and Nobles?
No, but I see all the time people with stickers on their book covers indicating their position on the New York Times Best Sellers list, or the Oprah Bookclub.
Neither the NY Times nor Oprah sell books directly to the public; Amazon, Borders, and Books-A-Million do. That is why Barnes and Noble, Amazon, Borders, and Books-A-Million will put those "NYT Best Seller" and "Oprah Bookclub" sticker on books but not "#3 best seller at " stickers. Google competes directly against Apple in that space.
This is advertising that you won a Fields Metal at a Nobel Consortium (with an enormous pinch of salt).
No, it isn't because the Nobel Consortium is an independent body who does not compete against others. This is saying one won a competition hosted by it's direct competitor. Here, let me fix your analogy so it is more appropriate:
This is advertising that you won a Nobel Prize in Literature.
The Nobel Committee is not a general book seller. This is very different saying one won "#1 favorite read as voted on by the customers of Amazon". That is a sticker you won't see on a book at B&N, Borders, etc.
I was going to mod the parent, but decided to correct you instead.
No, but then Barnes and Noble isn't the only place you can sell your book. If you don't like their policies, you can also put it up for sale on Amazon, Books-A-Million, any number of local bookstores, and probably even stores like Wal-Mart, Target, etc.
Here, let me fix that for you:
No, but then iPhone App Store isn't the only place you can sell your software. If you don't like their policies, you can also put it up for sale in the Android Market, on the internet, any number of websites, and probably even stores like Wal-Mart, Target, etc.
That the software can not be sold on Apple's proprietary web site if it's description mentions Apple's competitor does not prevent the author from selling it for use on non-Apple devices.
If HP did as you state, people would not buy the HP device. Instead they would buy from someone else. HP does not make the processor, motherboard, BIOS, or operating system. WinTel components are a commodity. Apple hardware and the Apple OSes are not commodity.
People tolerate it because they see value in Apple's name, reputation, and price. They want to play in Apple's sandbox.
If you don't want to play by Apple's rules, don't play in Apple's sandbox. Don't whine about it like the little bitch your post makes you out to be.
It is non-scientific quackery. You are not a conspiracy theorist, you are fucking idiot. The other side of the coin, as you put it, is being a gullible dumbass, which is exactly what you are.
As I said, people such as yourself need to be removed from the gene pool. Please, kill yourself and any children and relatives you have handy. It would make the world a much better place.
Do you really believe any government would admit in any way that there is a link between mercury in vaccines and autism?
And why wouldn't they? Please explain in detail why the government wouldn't, explain what they have to gain.
Real science will attribute this to mercury poisoning.
Ah, so "real science" is science that support your delusions while anything that contradicts your delusions is "convenient science" which you believe to be lies. those are interesting definitions. "It doesn't agree with what I believe so it must be wrong" is not proof of something being wrong. You do not base your theories on facts, you choose your facts based your theories. That is what makes you a dumbass.
Why don't you stop being a fucking idiot and stop drinking the kool-aid. Or better yet, drink it and die.
Lets start with your little propaganda video: It is nothing but supposition, misquotes, quotes taken out of context, and anecdotes. There is nothing scientific about what that quack said.
All the science says there is no causation, so you and the rest of the idiots who have just a vague idea as to what science is claim conspiracy. Tell you what, you think that the "medical establishment" is out to hurt or kill you and your kids or just defraud you? Stop going to doctors and hospitals. Let your kids get measles or rubella or mumps and hopefully die. Then, you can whine about how medical science couldn't save your poor little babies when YOU denied them the protections of medicine.
If you don't trust science, medicine, and doctors then stop using them. And, that includes computers; if you don't trust science, stop using the products of science.
I swear it should be legal to kill people like you and all your relatives and offspring just to get your taint out of the genome.
Or, depressed, socially isolated, sexually frustrated people could be using the internet (the big red source of porn, superficial pseudo-friendships, and semi-anonymous circle-jerks) as an outlet and coping mechanism.
My kingdom for mod points. I would say it is much more likely that depressed, socially isolated, sexually frustrated people would use the internet as an outlet than it is for using the internet to lead to depression.
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Not stealing?
Sounds like stealing to me. What is it like to be an admitted thief?
If you think it is wrong, and you still do it, then you are hypocrite with no ethics. The only ones being a dick are you and people like you. That is why you all lose in court, you are selfish dicks who think if they want something they deserve it and it is OK to steal it if they can't get it on their terms.
They are losing the profit from a sale. Your whole argument is the broken window fallacy upside down.
By your arguments, all the companies should be allowed to "get in your face", because you are being a dick to them by stealing their product.
And, here is the kicker. I bet if you spent years and thousands of dollars creating a piece of software to sell and you priced it so that it would give a reasonable return on investment if it sold close to your reasonable projections, then someone put it for download on the internet and the sales were cut by a third, you would be pissed off too. But, because you don't sell what you create for a living, you don't give a shit about anyone else.
You are a selfish, pathetic, whining parasite with no ethics.
What you are doing is not civil disobedience, it is merely theft for greed's sake.
No, you do not want to pay the price, part of which is having the DRM installed as well. You don't want "some jackass company thinking that they have the right to control my property", don't use their fucking software, shithead. Is that so fucking hard? Oh, wait, once again, you want something from someone on your terms and if you are not going to get it on your terms, you are going to break the law and violate their rights.
Your "property rights" don't give you the right to steal from others and if people like you would quit stealing from companies, then DRM wouldn't exist. All your "property rights" give you is the right to not use products that you don't like.
Because you didn't pay for it and it is wrong to do so. You have heard of right and wrong, right? By the way, you statement is a fallacy "Two wrongs make a right". No, two wrongs don't make a right, it makes two wrongs.
By the way, you do not know my opinion of DRM, so quit assigning me one, shithead.
If it is not worth buying, then it should not be worth having. There are always some people will not buy what they can get for free or steal. Been that way forever.
You are not standing up for anyone's rights. You do not have a right to other people's work. That is what makes you childish. You want something but don't want to do what it takes to get it legally, so you steal. Just because you don't like DRM, you don't have a right to make illegal copies. If you don't like the DRM, don't use the fucking software. If you don't want to pay the asking price, don't use the fucking software. Is that so hard to comprehend?
That "masters" comment is just bullshit. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you don't like the price, don't buy it and don't use it. If you don't like the DRM, don't buy it and don't use it. No one is forcing you to buy the software, so quit your whiny bitching and the stupid red-herring comments, grow the fuck up and act like a man for a change.
Unfortunately, that is not true. They would save up for the game, or buy it on credit, or even wait to buy it used. Stealing/pirating/illegally copying something is not justified because said thing has DRM or one thinks said thing is overpriced. The fact that you would do so says a lot about you and your childish, selfish morals.
No, it is not like that, not even close, and the fact you believe that shows your first sentence to be true.
No, that is not why bankruptcy laws were introduced. Maybe you should go read a book on the subject before showing your ignorance to the world.
There is a proportion to the damages. It has nothing to do with what the perpetrator has, owns, or makes. It has to do with the damage to the victim. He took a game that was expected to sell 15 million copies and illegally released it on the internet. Then, when the game was released, it sold 10 million copies. The damages should be the profit from those 5 million unsold games. $1.5 million seems fair to me.
You act like James Burt is the victim, but he is not. He is the perpetrator. He doesn't get to chose his punishment, the state does.
There is an old saying "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime". Well, we can update it with "If you can't pay the fine, don't do the crime."
Were you born a asshole or have you worked at it your whole life?
The question is how many would have sold if the game was not put out for unauthorized and illegal copying? It could have been 10 million and 1, or it could have been 20 million.
Well, it is open source so stop whining and get busy coding.
Or, their customer might do what many people do, switch companies after their contract is up to get a new or different phone.
No, and it is interesting that you are trying to put words in my mouth by selectively quoting me. Shows that you can't support your arguments honestly. What it will do is raise awareness of Android and Android based products in the minds of Apple appstore customers. It is basically an advertisement for a competitor on Apple's site.
The people missing the point is you and the people like you who are bashing Apple for behaving in its own best interest. Do you think any company wants any information about a competitor on its own website? No company wants their customers to be able to go to their own website and have those customers see their competitor's name or product referenced.
That is irrelevant, because the could do so. They could refuse to carry those book. And, you will notice those are the titles of books specifically about or directly related to Amazon.com. The app in question is not directly related to Android or Google, but the app's description mentions Android directly.
Your comparison is apples and grapes.
I see you think everyone's life revolves around technology. Many people by an iPhone because it is Apple and cool. Many people buy an iPod because iPods are popular. They are not buying technology, they are buying fashion accessories that have a particular function.
Check again, and get back to me.
Apple uses Intel processors with proprietary BIOS and OS. Some of what is in a Dell will be found in a Mac, but several important parts won't be. That is why you can't go to the Apple store and buy a copy of OS X and install it on a Dell. If you don't believe me, give it a try.
And the next time the customer decides to buy a book, he goes to Amazon, orders it on-line, and B&N loses at least one sale.
You are using a false analogy.
The Washington Post does not sell the book, only it's reviewer's opinion of the book. At no time does the Washington Post have to mention the NYT or it's best seller list and Post's customers never see the competitor's name in the Post's review.
In this case, the description of the product in the App store mentions Android and the Android contest. Android and Google is in direct competition with Apple and its devices.
Do you think you would see "#4 best seller on Amazon.com" on a book sold at Borders or Barnes and Nobles?
Neither the NY Times nor Oprah sell books directly to the public; Amazon, Borders, and Books-A-Million do. That is why Barnes and Noble, Amazon, Borders, and Books-A-Million will put those "NYT Best Seller" and "Oprah Bookclub" sticker on books but not "#3 best seller at " stickers. Google competes directly against Apple in that space.
No, it isn't because the Nobel Consortium is an independent body who does not compete against others. This is saying one won a competition hosted by it's direct competitor. Here, let me fix your analogy so it is more appropriate:
The Nobel Committee is not a general book seller. This is very different saying one won "#1 favorite read as voted on by the customers of Amazon". That is a sticker you won't see on a book at B&N, Borders, etc.
Your post is nothing but a red herring.
I was going to mod the parent, but decided to correct you instead.
Here, let me fix that for you:
That the software can not be sold on Apple's proprietary web site if it's description mentions Apple's competitor does not prevent the author from selling it for use on non-Apple devices.
If HP did as you state, people would not buy the HP device. Instead they would buy from someone else. HP does not make the processor, motherboard, BIOS, or operating system. WinTel components are a commodity. Apple hardware and the Apple OSes are not commodity.
People tolerate it because they see value in Apple's name, reputation, and price. They want to play in Apple's sandbox.
If you don't want to play by Apple's rules, don't play in Apple's sandbox. Don't whine about it like the little bitch your
post makes you out to be.
If you can't answer it, then you don't have an answer which makes you just another idiot.
It is non-scientific quackery. You are not a conspiracy theorist, you are fucking idiot. The other side of the coin, as you put it, is being a gullible dumbass, which is exactly what you are.
As I said, people such as yourself need to be removed from the gene pool. Please, kill yourself and any children and relatives you have handy. It would make the world a much better place.
And why wouldn't they? Please explain in detail why the government wouldn't, explain what they have to gain.
Ah, so "real science" is science that support your delusions while anything that contradicts your delusions is "convenient science" which you believe to be lies. those are interesting definitions. "It doesn't agree with what I believe so it must be wrong" is not proof of something being wrong. You do not base your theories on facts, you choose your facts based your theories. That is what makes you a dumbass.
Why don't you stop being a fucking idiot and stop drinking the kool-aid. Or better yet, drink it and die.
Lets start with your little propaganda video: It is nothing but supposition, misquotes, quotes taken out of context, and anecdotes. There is nothing scientific about what that quack said.
All the science says there is no causation, so you and the rest of the idiots who have just a vague idea as to what science is claim conspiracy. Tell you what, you think that the "medical establishment" is out to hurt or kill you and your kids or just defraud you? Stop going to doctors and hospitals. Let your kids get measles or rubella or mumps and hopefully die. Then, you can whine about how medical science couldn't save your poor little babies when YOU denied them the protections of medicine.
If you don't trust science, medicine, and doctors then stop using them. And, that includes computers; if you don't trust science, stop using the products of science.
I swear it should be legal to kill people like you and all your relatives and offspring just to get your taint out of the genome.
Sounds like you have undiagnosed masochism.
Or, depressed, socially isolated, sexually frustrated people could be using the internet (the big red source of porn, superficial pseudo-friendships, and semi-anonymous circle-jerks) as an outlet and coping mechanism.
My kingdom for mod points. I would say it is much more likely that depressed, socially isolated, sexually frustrated people would use the internet as an outlet than it is for using the internet to lead to depression.
I watched the first five seconds with it's heart-string tugging music, religious symbolism, and general propaganda feel. That is all I needed to see.
Don't you mean stupid, un-sourced, un-scientific propaganda video which argues from emotion and outrage?
Or do you suggest that you should be put out to pasture because every case is the same?