So RESIST the urge to EVER buy anything with content control. It will then proceed to go away (ala DIVX - but way too many people still bought into that stupid idea)
*Impressed by the even handed response - they are rare on this board*
I will concur - the.NET strategy is iffy at best - still, the amount of capital they have available makes them very dangerous and quite capable of yanking rabbits of hats.
If you can switch month-to-month, the software will have to really be worth having. Of course, they are going to try to rope you into a yearly contract (which basically means you buy the software)...this whole things stinks. They way they are trying to control our computers is unreal.
Exactly - you AREN'T a corporate office. I suspect your at an ISP - which doesn't count. I have granted Linux web server status - and that's basically all you listed - I find it curious that only your development database server is in linux.
Pull out whatever you want - Linux pretty much doesn't exist in any Fortune 500 or larger company.
It's not just age - it's attitude - and it's obvious you have a bad one. I mean, WOW, you had, what a WHOLE YEAR, MAYBE TWO with SUN? So what. That person hadn't used a mouse until his twenties because there WERE NO MICE, moron.
Incidentally, in my experience with people, what you did in a NON-work environment is largely irrelevant. Sure, it's great you programmed when you were young (Whatever on the 8 years old thing) but all that did was teach you the basics. Real world programming with deadlines, working with other people and such matter. When I hire, I look at what they've done, what kind of teams they've worked in, and what REAL deadlines they've had to deal with. And, yes, experience matters - there are 20 million people out there just as good or better than you - no matter what your age. Cop an attitude of arrogance - well, that's probably what's caused you problems in the past. You might be as good a coder as I am - you might not - but I have over 10 years of contracting experience in real world environments dealing with multiperson teams in multiple languages. You can't even start to touch that. There's a LOT more to getting a job done than just the coding. 58K ain't bad for 19 - stop whining. Think how good you'll be in five years. I envy you that you HAD those tools available to you when you were young. And are you happy with what you've done? Naw - whine and complain, whine and complain. What, you think you should be making 100K at 19? LOL - keep dreaming - there are a ton of people just like you, fresh out of college, that will take 50K (which is VERY good for starting pay) and be THRILLED with it. Attutude alone is a reason to hire them.
I'm sure this will do nothing to help change your view - actually, I expect it'll piss you off, given what you've already written here. If you didn't _act_ like a spoiled 19year old coder that thinks he knows everything, people might treat you a little better.
See - this is the typical response - you think knowledge is the only factor in respect. There's a LOT more to it - when I was in my early twenties, I got a fair amount of respect. You have to EARN respect - and there's more to that than getting the job done.
If anything, letting people 10 years older than you realize just how much more you know (or think you do) is going to put them on the defensive or just be irritating.
Moving on isn't going to help much - we're not just talking experience ( and, please, GAMING experience is irrelevant ) we're also talking maturity. I seriously doubt he's being ignored - he's just upset that he's not be treated with the respect that other people are - probably people that have been there many years longer than he has. It's that typical reaction from the very young - I can do the same job so I should get the same respect.
GROW UP - Respect is EARNED. And there are a LOT more ways to earn it than just getting the job done.
I'll just ignore the race card for what it is - boring and over used.
Because this site is mostly viewed by linux people that can't see the real world hanging out in front of their face. They'd much rather rant about the latest compile of their linux than see the value in products like Kylix or give M$ ANY credit.
Funny thing is, this is the only place I EVER feel compelled to defend Microsoft. Usually, I'm bashing them - but I work in Windows, so I feel justified when I run into a real problem. But it's just annoying to see a bunch of people that don't use windows or actually have corporate jobs bashing something simply because it came from Microsoft. You should all be ashamed of your narrow-mindedness. But I've come to expect that as the norm, especially from taco. I find it totally amusing and have come to stop by here everyday for a chuckle at the monkeys in the cage.
Ah, yes, obviously you have things under control - that why you immediately went for 'FUCK' and 'MORON'. Well, let me first point out, 'MORON' that you have no idea what my skill level is, so you're talking out your ass (bet your use to that) *yawn* YOU started the insulting by implying that all contracters suck. Why do YOU watch what your typing?
And, 'MORON', if you'd bother to pay attention, I'm the first one to admit that there are bad contractors out there - and they aren't my cronies. Geeze, where did you learn to read? If you code like you read, I think I judge your programming skills pretty easily. I seriously doubt you approach my skill level, but that wasn't the point of the conversation was it?
On the other hand, I did piss you off, so I accomplished my goal *smile*
Next time, why don't you try being a little more accurate rather than seeing how many people you can insult at once?
I'm glad to see most (but not all!) of you are either too blind or too stupid to see the benefits from Kylix. Means less competition for those of us that understand how the real world works.
Articles like this simply make you look like a child throwing a tantrum in the corner cause no one likes you. While I like an amusing article as much as the next guy, this one's not even funny. I'd also venture that it falls under the 'Offtopic, Inflammatory, Inappropriate, Illegal, or Offensive comments' found below this entry window. Mostly, it just bring down the status of your site - its a pretty cheap site, as well as well as poorly written
If you continue to feel the need to do this, I think I'll find another news site to frequent. It's a pity you can't act in a more professional manner.
You simply didn't pay attent to what you were hiring and you mis-managed the project. I have been contracting for over 10 years now and I have worked with both small and large companies. I have worked on contract teams. And I find it INSULTING that you would suggest that I would do anything but was best for my client. There are just as many STUPID SELF CENTERED full time coders as there are contract coders. You're a moron for suggesting that contract=bad code. A bad coder is a bad coder no matter how much you pay or don't pay. If you toss resumes that are contracters, well, again, you're a moron that needs to catch a clue. Do we expect to be paid for our talent? Of course. I promise you: you CANNOT hire three people that match my skill level for what I make contracting. No one with my skill level would TAKE a job for that amount of money.
The real problem is managers like you that have decided that the word contracter is bad. Your loss and your competitions gain.
NO SH$T - if you are a contracter you will be the first one to go in a bad time. You'll also be the first one to go when the project is over. Well, dummy, THAT'S what being a contracter is about. We are hired guns to come in, do a job very well and we get paid for it. If you kept coders that sucked - well, stupid for you - the whole point is a contracter is easy to get rid of - if they don't deliver, FLUSH THEM. While I will defend my skill to the end, I have NO use for pretend coders.
Looks to me like you made some very bad decisions and now want to dump your mistakes on the contracters backs. Grow up.
You forgot that if you have a real problem, you can't demand support from anyone.
You forgot that no one makes much money programming under Linux
You forgot that the reason there's been little hacking/virusing of Linux is because there are so few linux boxes out there compared to MS boxes. (this ones my favorite 8) )
Who the hell wants to base the future of their company on free software? Only morons.
Thank god - someone else on these forums that isn't linux/free software brainwashed. ALL OSes have their weakness. I still maintain the reason Linux _seems_ so secure and virus free is _because_ there has been little reason to crack/hack. It has little penetration on the desktop. It has little penetration for corporate file servers. It's only recently that it's become popular for web servers (and I mean corporate, not your bedroom, before someone fires at me) and, ta-da! cracks/viruses appear. I don't think it's any better or any worse than windows. Now, M$ does suck, but because of business practices, not software.
It just means that cracked copies will become mainstream. This entire idea of controlling our harddrives is really starting to get out of hand. This isn't about stopping piracy, this is about controlling your desktop.
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So RESIST the urge to EVER buy anything with content control. It will then proceed to go away (ala DIVX - but way too many people still bought into that stupid idea)
Most crackers couldn't care less whether it's legal or not - it will still be done. You have to KNOW who did the crack to sue 8)
*Impressed by the even handed response - they are rare on this board*
.NET strategy is iffy at best - still, the amount of capital they have available makes them very dangerous and quite capable of yanking rabbits of hats.
I will concur - the
If you can switch month-to-month, the software will have to really be worth having. Of course, they are going to try to rope you into a yearly contract (which basically means you buy the software)...this whole things stinks. They way they are trying to control our computers is unreal.
I agree - MS has never innovated a thing.
But if you think MS is on the way out, put down the crack pipe. Just makes you sound like another linux person that doesn't live in reality.
Exactly - you AREN'T a corporate office. I suspect your at an ISP - which doesn't count. I have granted Linux web server status - and that's basically all you listed - I find it curious that only your development database server is in linux.
Pull out whatever you want - Linux pretty much doesn't exist in any Fortune 500 or larger company.
a better coder than I am.
I humbly bow to your incredible typing skill.
It's not just age - it's attitude - and it's obvious you have a bad one. I mean, WOW, you had, what a WHOLE YEAR, MAYBE TWO with SUN? So what. That person hadn't used a mouse until his twenties because there WERE NO MICE, moron.
Incidentally, in my experience with people, what you did in a NON-work environment is largely irrelevant. Sure, it's great you programmed when you were young (Whatever on the 8 years old thing) but all that did was teach you the basics. Real world programming with deadlines, working with other people and such matter. When I hire, I look at what they've done, what kind of teams they've worked in, and what REAL deadlines they've had to deal with. And, yes, experience matters - there are 20 million people out there just as good or better than you - no matter what your age. Cop an attitude of arrogance - well, that's probably what's caused you problems in the past. You might be as good a coder as I am - you might not - but I have over 10 years of contracting experience in real world environments dealing with multiperson teams in multiple languages. You can't even start to touch that. There's a LOT more to getting a job done than just the coding. 58K ain't bad for 19 - stop whining. Think how good you'll be in five years. I envy you that you HAD those tools available to you when you were young. And are you happy with what you've done? Naw - whine and complain, whine and complain. What, you think you should be making 100K at 19? LOL - keep dreaming - there are a ton of people just like you, fresh out of college, that will take 50K (which is VERY good for starting pay) and be THRILLED with it. Attutude alone is a reason to hire them.
I'm sure this will do nothing to help change your view - actually, I expect it'll piss you off, given what you've already written here. If you didn't _act_ like a spoiled 19year old coder that thinks he knows everything, people might treat you a little better.
See - this is the typical response - you think knowledge is the only factor in respect. There's a LOT more to it - when I was in my early twenties, I got a fair amount of respect. You have to EARN respect - and there's more to that than getting the job done.
If anything, letting people 10 years older than you realize just how much more you know (or think you do) is going to put them on the defensive or just be irritating.
Moving on isn't going to help much - we're not just talking experience ( and, please, GAMING experience is irrelevant ) we're also talking maturity. I seriously doubt he's being ignored - he's just upset that he's not be treated with the respect that other people are - probably people that have been there many years longer than he has. It's that typical reaction from the very young - I can do the same job so I should get the same respect.
GROW UP - Respect is EARNED. And there are a LOT more ways to earn it than just getting the job done.
I'll just ignore the race card for what it is - boring and over used.
Because this site is mostly viewed by linux people that can't see the real world hanging out in front of their face. They'd much rather rant about the latest compile of their linux than see the value in products like Kylix or give M$ ANY credit.
Funny thing is, this is the only place I EVER feel compelled to defend Microsoft. Usually, I'm bashing them - but I work in Windows, so I feel justified when I run into a real problem. But it's just annoying to see a bunch of people that don't use windows or actually have corporate jobs bashing something simply because it came from Microsoft. You should all be ashamed of your narrow-mindedness. But I've come to expect that as the norm, especially from taco. I find it totally amusing and have come to stop by here everyday for a chuckle at the monkeys in the cage.
See ya!
finding three linux machines that aren't web servers at a corporate office, though the blue screens would no doubt pay off a lot more often.
Reality bites, doesn't it?
Actually, I'm have a much more fun time pissing you linux losers off.
Ah, yes, obviously you have things under control - that why you immediately went for 'FUCK' and 'MORON'. Well, let me first point out, 'MORON' that you have no idea what my skill level is, so you're talking out your ass (bet your use to that) *yawn* YOU started the insulting by implying that all contracters suck. Why do YOU watch what your typing?
And, 'MORON', if you'd bother to pay attention, I'm the first one to admit that there are bad contractors out there - and they aren't my cronies. Geeze, where did you learn to read? If you code like you read, I think I judge your programming skills pretty easily. I seriously doubt you approach my skill level, but that wasn't the point of the conversation was it?
On the other hand, I did piss you off, so I accomplished my goal *smile*
Next time, why don't you try being a little more accurate rather than seeing how many people you can insult at once?
ROFL, das Game Guy
I'm glad to see most (but not all!) of you are either too blind or too stupid to see the benefits from Kylix. Means less competition for those of us that understand how the real world works.
so that would make you one that can't - at least when it comes to Microsoft
Now I understand.
Sorry, you asked for it.
expecting to find more than 1 in 20 answers that aren't basically 'Microsoft sucks, they can't have a good idea?' from THIS site?
Make that cheap SHOT not SITE
Articles like this simply make you look like a child throwing a tantrum in the corner cause no one likes you. While I like an amusing article as much as the next guy, this one's not even funny. I'd also venture that it falls under the 'Offtopic, Inflammatory, Inappropriate, Illegal, or Offensive comments' found below this entry window. Mostly, it just bring down the status of your site - its a pretty cheap site, as well as well as poorly written
If you continue to feel the need to do this, I think I'll find another news site to frequent. It's a pity you can't act in a more professional manner.
Linux people are quite a funny bunch - I think living in a niche cause more humor brain cells to develop.
You simply didn't pay attent to what you were hiring and you mis-managed the project. I have been contracting for over 10 years now and I have worked with both small and large companies. I have worked on contract teams. And I find it INSULTING that you would suggest that I would do anything but was best for my client. There are just as many STUPID SELF CENTERED full time coders as there are contract coders. You're a moron for suggesting that contract=bad code. A bad coder is a bad coder no matter how much you pay or don't pay. If you toss resumes that are contracters, well, again, you're a moron that needs to catch a clue. Do we expect to be paid for our talent? Of course. I promise you: you CANNOT hire three people that match my skill level for what I make contracting. No one with my skill level would TAKE a job for that amount of money.
The real problem is managers like you that have decided that the word contracter is bad. Your loss and your competitions gain.
NO SH$T - if you are a contracter you will be the first one to go in a bad time. You'll also be the first one to go when the project is over. Well, dummy, THAT'S what being a contracter is about. We are hired guns to come in, do a job very well and we get paid for it. If you kept coders that sucked - well, stupid for you - the whole point is a contracter is easy to get rid of - if they don't deliver, FLUSH THEM. While I will defend my skill to the end, I have NO use for pretend coders.
Looks to me like you made some very bad decisions and now want to dump your mistakes on the contracters backs. Grow up.
You forgot that if you have a real problem, you can't demand support from anyone.
You forgot that no one makes much money programming under Linux
You forgot that the reason there's been little hacking/virusing of Linux is because there are so few linux boxes out there compared to MS boxes. (this ones my favorite 8) )
Who the hell wants to base the future of their company on free software? Only morons.
I think that about sums it up.
Thank god - someone else on these forums that isn't linux/free software brainwashed. ALL OSes have their weakness. I still maintain the reason Linux _seems_ so secure and virus free is _because_ there has been little reason to crack/hack. It has little penetration on the desktop. It has little penetration for corporate file servers. It's only recently that it's become popular for web servers (and I mean corporate, not your bedroom, before someone fires at me) and, ta-da! cracks/viruses appear. I don't think it's any better or any worse than windows. Now, M$ does suck, but because of business practices, not software.
Like when things involve windows, the immediate assumption is that the kid isn't guilty. You have no idea. He might. He might not be.
It just means that cracked copies will become mainstream. This entire idea of controlling our harddrives is really starting to get out of hand. This isn't about stopping piracy, this is about controlling your desktop.