A flame war would actually be really productive for K5, who probably have like a thousandth of the readership slashdot does. They have been mentioned on slashdot a bunch of times here and there, but a story like this where a slashdot editor goes out of his way to bash them means they'll get a lot of people curious enough to click to them who didn't before.
A flame war is certainly counter-productive for slashdot, because if they have some beef with K5 (and I can see it, I mean it is a lot like slashdot, and it's natural for humans to not like their competitors, even if they haven't done anything too wrong), bringing tons of traffic to K5 isn't the best way to deal with it. If they want K5 to go away they should just ignore them whenever possible.
The most interesting point here is that Kuro5hin goes out of their way to not diss slashdot in their postings on slashdot, and Rusty seems pretty non-confrontational about it. It's just slashdot now who are starting complaining. I'm not saying/. shouldn't complain, I don't know the whole history between them (ie. did K5 start as a huger ripoff of/. , that sort of thing.)
The SMP support in mac osX and the dual processor machines out as of today (according to the article, but I couldn't find them at the apple store yet) are sweet, that is going to kick major ass.
Now if I can just get my new work to shell out 10 or 15 grand for a really kick-ass mac for me:)
"I can't help but notice that, here on Slashdot, the second anyone does anything that violates some insanely strict, unwritten code, people are suddenly up in arms. "
How would you like it if I did that every single time you posted something? Just quoted it with crazy links inserted that looked like you put them in? What about this?
"Use it or don't, but don't complain and whine about how this is violating your basic natural rights or how it's a sign of creeping corporatism that's going to take over your brain and steal your children. Also, I love gay sex. Lots and lots of gay sex."
There, I just added a little something to your original message, and I even put it in bold to make sure it was clear you hadn't said it, just like Deja does with those orange "LOOK AT THIS!" arrows.
Now tell me, what's the difference between what I just did and what Deja did, and do you enjoy it? If you really doni't care then you're a totally mindless shill.
Definitely a way better idea. They probably thought of that but figured this would give me them better click-through and not use as much screen real estate.
Oh right, gotcha! That's a cool thing then yeah, those WOULD be rad! Unfortunately I suck at 3d anything so it doesn't directly benefit me, so wait, on second thoughts, I don't care.:)
This is not a flame, I love unix + mac, but I think the graphics programs jumping to Mac might be pretty unneeded since EVERY mac user I know has a copy of photoshop.
But why did you think that'd be interesting? (not rhetorical). Do you think that might get more Mac developers behind OSS or anything? That'd be wicked, but I'm not sure if having *NIX graphics programs on mac is going to really be a big thing, is it? (again, not rhetorical)
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all slashdot users are gay or anything. Just huge losers:D
You just learned a valuable lesson of business on the internet: Research who you are doing business with beforehand, and if they are spam-friendly in any way, do not do business with them. I don't say this like "it's a moral decision", I say it as "Their quality level WILL drop because of the fact they are spam-friendly".
It's a shame that you had problems with iBill if you really are legit, but it's your own fault. If your doctor had his license taken away because he killed someone would you get angry at the medical association because now you had to find a bad doctor?
Exactly. Jesse Burst's opinion is solely based on whatever chemicals are released in his brain when he writes, which are/were decided by how many times he was dropped on his head as a child (which was a lot, but not enough, let's face it).
Having said that, let's admit that he is an attractive man.
Thanks for the flame, but I'm not in love with it at all and didn't say I was, I am just pointing out a point I think is valid. Which I know because i am an mp3 thief, and use Napster all the time. See, we're on the same side, calm down!
When I was in college I did some reviews for the school paper, of CDs, and frankly I did hold them to a slightly lower standard than if I had paid for them, I felt so happy just having them. I wonder if it's the same thing with Linux reviews maybe?
note: if i posted this twice by accident sorry, some weird browser stuff just happened!
it says rights of others. And I can't really see them kicking someone off for infringing on someone's right to get a copyrighted song (which are what the 'eggs' are replacing). Can you IMAGINE the press they'd get from that?:) If you really think Napster will do anything about this you're nuts, it'd be about as hard as them stopping people from trading pirated mp3s.
Man, when someone says something good about moderation on slashdot, it's super hard to tell if their irony is intentional or not.
Anyway, if you added moderation to Napster it'd be good to do it in a way where indie songs would actually be promoted (like Napster like to pretend they somehow do already), and not just some way where you see the most popular songs. After all, isn't the lame top40 system why everyone is turning to Napster to begin with? (or at least that's what cheap thieves like myself like to tell people)
Most people download a ton of songs at once though, and then listen to them later. If you have some fake song on your hard drive for a few hours someone else will still grab it, and if this happens enough times, and enough people just take it out of their playlists without deleting it (which everyone does, just witness all the songs on napster that are fakes under the wrong names, or onily 50% as long as they should be) it can spread pretty fast!
> One drawback is that a GPS antenna would have to be attached to every computer that would be in the voting network.
I think that's a big enough drawback to make this idea unfeasible. I mean the whole point of online voting is to get people to vote who wouldn't trudge to the polls, so maybe them trudge somewhere to get a GPS device and install it, I'd consider that counter-productive.
Someone asked that during the Q+A with the havenco guy and they didn't seem too interested in it. I wonder how much publicity it'd really get them among the people who are likely to use them anyway, do you think it'd get much coverage? (not rhetorical, I can't tell really. crazy internet press!) Colo a box at havenco though and you can do it!
FBI sources were quoted as saying that among the first people targeted would be the people who put random Echelon keywords in their.sigs. "They all thought they were clever" Michaels said, "but it was just lame and annoying, and only a few hundred people ever did it, so it wasn't even effective. We were sitting around drinking one night and were like 'What the shit, let's test this on those guys!' and we've been following them ever since. Mostly it's just a bunch of guys talking about beard trimmers and PGP, it's kind of depressing."
Did pong even come in a stand-up arcade form? I think it was just a console game for the 2600. The MAME people are definitely "with the program", apparently a bit more than you are:P
I've been watching and using MAME for a while now, and it's wicked, so great. The trick will be when some company creates a kit to easily make a cabinet to play these from that almost anyone with a bandsaw can put together.
Imagine if someone sold complete plans and hardware (joysticks, etc, but not counting the computer itself) that you could buy, and then all you'd have to do would be buy the wood, bandsaw it to size and insert a standard PC into, and boom, a full-sized arcade machine of your own with almost every game invented. Mmmmm, that gets me excited just thinking about it:)
And as sick as it is, yes I'd like an option to stick quarters in to play:)
I think this shouldn't have been posted for a while, this project and the page is obviously in it's very early stages.
Apart from the music and software industry people attacking this if it ever comes to fruition, wouldn't many systems and networks administrators be wary of it? It seems like something like this would make for some really nice DoS attacks even more untraceable than the current ones already are. So, unless I'm misunderstanding something, I'd expect opposition from a lot more fronts than just the entertainment groups.
It's sort of a hard question, should we introduce new technologies that make it easier for jerks to cause trouble if they're technically superior but don't really cause any huge huge problems? (I know this is a good idea, but how many people have really been censored or persecuted online who wouldn't have been if they used these protocols? From the cases I've seen I don't think this would actually help, but I could easily be wrong).
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Wait though, did Deja stick in ads for canned ham or anything in the discussions?:)
A flame war is certainly counter-productive for slashdot, because if they have some beef with K5 (and I can see it, I mean it is a lot like slashdot, and it's natural for humans to not like their competitors, even if they haven't done anything too wrong), bringing tons of traffic to K5 isn't the best way to deal with it. If they want K5 to go away they should just ignore them whenever possible.
The most interesting point here is that Kuro5hin goes out of their way to not diss slashdot in their postings on slashdot, and Rusty seems pretty non-confrontational about it. It's just slashdot now who are starting complaining. I'm not saying /. shouldn't complain, I don't know the whole history between them (ie. did K5 start as a huger ripoff of /. , that sort of thing.)
Now if I can just get my new work to shell out 10 or 15 grand for a really kick-ass mac for me:)
How would you like it if I did that every single time you posted something? Just quoted it with crazy links inserted that looked like you put them in? What about this?
"Use it or don't, but don't complain and whine about how this is violating your basic natural rights or how it's a sign of creeping corporatism that's going to take over your brain and steal your children. Also, I love gay sex. Lots and lots of gay sex."
There, I just added a little something to your original message, and I even put it in bold to make sure it was clear you hadn't said it, just like Deja does with those orange "LOOK AT THIS!" arrows.
Now tell me, what's the difference between what I just did and what Deja did, and do you enjoy it? If you really doni't care then you're a totally mindless shill.
Definitely a way better idea. They probably thought of that but figured this would give me them better click-through and not use as much screen real estate.
Oh right, gotcha! That's a cool thing then yeah, those WOULD be rad! Unfortunately I suck at 3d anything so it doesn't directly benefit me, so wait, on second thoughts, I don't care. :)
But why did you think that'd be interesting? (not rhetorical). Do you think that might get more Mac developers behind OSS or anything? That'd be wicked, but I'm not sure if having *NIX graphics programs on mac is going to really be a big thing, is it? (again, not rhetorical)
just kiddin', love y'all :D
So, Napster is NOT "their" Big Thing. It's a different company. It's nice that you read the /. comments, but maybe read the article too.
It's a shame that you had problems with iBill if you really are legit, but it's your own fault. If your doctor had his license taken away because he killed someone would you get angry at the medical association because now you had to find a bad doctor?
Having said that, let's admit that he is an attractive man.
Thanks for the flame, but I'm not in love with it at all and didn't say I was, I am just pointing out a point I think is valid. Which I know because i am an mp3 thief, and use Napster all the time. See, we're on the same side, calm down!
note: if i posted this twice by accident sorry, some weird browser stuff just happened!
it says rights of others. And I can't really see them kicking someone off for infringing on someone's right to get a copyrighted song (which are what the 'eggs' are replacing). Can you IMAGINE the press they'd get from that? :) If you really think Napster will do anything about this you're nuts, it'd be about as hard as them stopping people from trading pirated mp3s.
Anyway, if you added moderation to Napster it'd be good to do it in a way where indie songs would actually be promoted (like Napster like to pretend they somehow do already), and not just some way where you see the most popular songs. After all, isn't the lame top40 system why everyone is turning to Napster to begin with? (or at least that's what cheap thieves like myself like to tell people)
Most people download a ton of songs at once though, and then listen to them later. If you have some fake song on your hard drive for a few hours someone else will still grab it, and if this happens enough times, and enough people just take it out of their playlists without deleting it (which everyone does, just witness all the songs on napster that are fakes under the wrong names, or onily 50% as long as they should be) it can spread pretty fast!
I think that's a big enough drawback to make this idea unfeasible. I mean the whole point of online voting is to get people to vote who wouldn't trudge to the polls, so maybe them trudge somewhere to get a GPS device and install it, I'd consider that counter-productive.
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Someone asked that during the Q+A with the havenco guy and they didn't seem too interested in it. I wonder how much publicity it'd really get them among the people who are likely to use them anyway, do you think it'd get much coverage? (not rhetorical, I can't tell really. crazy internet press!) Colo a box at havenco though and you can do it!
FBI sources were quoted as saying that among the first people targeted would be the people who put random Echelon keywords in their .sigs. "They all thought they were clever" Michaels said, "but it was just lame and annoying, and only a few hundred people ever did it, so it wasn't even effective. We were sitting around drinking one night and were like 'What the shit, let's test this on those guys!' and we've been following them ever since. Mostly it's just a bunch of guys talking about beard trimmers and PGP, it's kind of depressing."
Did pong even come in a stand-up arcade form? I think it was just a console game for the 2600. The MAME people are definitely "with the program", apparently a bit more than you are:P
Untrue! Apache was originally named Apachame and Linux was originally named Liname. Know your history boy, or grandpa is gonna whup you!
Imagine if someone sold complete plans and hardware (joysticks, etc, but not counting the computer itself) that you could buy, and then all you'd have to do would be buy the wood, bandsaw it to size and insert a standard PC into, and boom, a full-sized arcade machine of your own with almost every game invented. Mmmmm, that gets me excited just thinking about it :)
And as sick as it is, yes I'd like an option to stick quarters in to play:)
Apart from the music and software industry people attacking this if it ever comes to fruition, wouldn't many systems and networks administrators be wary of it? It seems like something like this would make for some really nice DoS attacks even more untraceable than the current ones already are. So, unless I'm misunderstanding something, I'd expect opposition from a lot more fronts than just the entertainment groups.
It's sort of a hard question, should we introduce new technologies that make it easier for jerks to cause trouble if they're technically superior but don't really cause any huge huge problems? (I know this is a good idea, but how many people have really been censored or persecuted online who wouldn't have been if they used these protocols? From the cases I've seen I don't think this would actually help, but I could easily be wrong).
Time to get rid of my skin again!