While I'm sure that many of the reasons outlined here about why you could use this are true. I think Apple is doing this for Rendezvous support. The Zeroconf guy has basically said so. I know there was an article where they said they (Apple) wanted to use IP for just about every connection instead of inventing new protocols. Rendezvous is not just for iChat, but is for other devices and technologies down the road. This fits in to the big picture.
Of course if THAT'S true then we can start speculating about what "device" they're coming out with that needs IPoFW.:-)
THAT is the feakin' comic strip that people always quote when they talk about the Newton??? I fail to see how it could have possibly had such an impact. Amazing.
I did the hack last night. I have both a supported AGP and "unsupported" Radeon PCI. The PCI is my second display. Initially the hack turned QE on for the PCI but OFF on the AGP. That of course was undersirable, but simply removing the preference fixed that and both displays are QE enabled.
What did that do for me? Well for one thing I've seen the same artifact issues with column view quicktime previews as others have reported. It's no big deal however. I also had a kernel panic upon my initial reboot after enabling the hack. I rebooted again and it was fine and has been ever since.
I've not noticed a large speed increase, but it is a bit better. What you do get are some effects that are normally turned off when not using QE (transition fading when using automatic wallpaper switching), etc.
I'm sure there are reasons why this wasn't enabled by Apple...besides them wanting everyone to buy a new Mac. But all in all the hack does work and is worth checking out.
The other machine was a g4 400 or 450. Mine is an 867 with 640 mb of ram. So actually my box is the faster of the two. In any case, QE is still a huge improvement, even if it isn't "perfect."
As someone else commented the link is now dead. It was killing my T1. I left it up as long as I could stand it!:-)
There was a guy who had a mirror but I just checked and it wasn't responding. That was at:
I made that a few days ago (posted the link on macrumors), to see if that QE video was for real. It was, but there are some issues with sound. My footage has sound, so you can hear when it cuts out. QE is not as wonderful as the original video made it seem, but it isn't bad either. There's also a comparision at the end trying to do the same things under 10.1.4.
I agree with this guy. I know Reuters says they tried it, but that's not good enough, I want proof. I agree that it's possible it may work since it's the DATA not audio tracks that are the issue, but like this guy said, it sounds a lot like the "green ink makes your CD's sound better" crap.
I'm not saying it ISN'T true, but I hardly think it's worth all this press and attention until it's been documented properly. Wouldn't we all look like morons if it was all some huge practical joke?:-)
Not that we weren't expecting one eventually, but to my knowledge Apple has made no mention of any iPhoto updates. I would imagine that the author has some knowledge that us mere mortals do not. iPhoto is one iApp that could use a good update.
Based on what I've read on Apple's site about this the only client software available is for other Mac's. While that's fine in a lot of cases, most IT shops are Windows based and having a native client that could manage Mac servers and desktops would do nothing but encourage adoption of Apple computers. Plus it'd allow me to remote control my Mac from my Win2k box at home. VNC works for now at least.
Having said all that Microsoft does the same thing. There's no MS Remote Desktop/Terminal Services client for non-Windows OS's either. However there are third party options at least. Here's hoping someone does the same for Apple remote desktop.
I'm sure most of us have old PC's that aren't used for anything. Perhaps an interesting way to start something like this is to use older hardware that does nothing but act as a node. It wouldn't solve the power and noise problems, but it's an interesting start, a decent proof of concept and a use for otherwise useless computers.
Slashdot Mirror
Of course if THAT'S true then we can start speculating about what "device" they're coming out with that needs IPoFW. :-)
Cheers,
John
THAT is the feakin' comic strip that people always quote when they talk about the Newton??? I fail to see how it could have possibly had such an impact. Amazing.
I did the hack last night. I have both a supported AGP and "unsupported" Radeon PCI. The PCI is my second display. Initially the hack turned QE on for the PCI but OFF on the AGP. That of course was undersirable, but simply removing the preference fixed that and both displays are QE enabled.
For example the orignal is set up as:
<key>GLCompositorRequiredClasses</key>
<array>
<string>IOAGPDevice</string>
</array>
They suggest you change IOAGPDevice to IOPCIDevice. But to make it work on both just remove it, like:
<key>GLCompositorRequiredClasses</key>
<array>
</array>
What did that do for me? Well for one thing I've seen the same artifact issues with column view quicktime previews as others have reported. It's no big deal however. I also had a kernel panic upon my initial reboot after enabling the hack. I rebooted again and it was fine and has been ever since.
I've not noticed a large speed increase, but it is a bit better. What you do get are some effects that are normally turned off when not using QE (transition fading when using automatic wallpaper switching), etc.
I'm sure there are reasons why this wasn't enabled by Apple...besides them wanting everyone to buy a new Mac. But all in all the hack does work and is worth checking out.
John
The other machine was a g4 400 or 450. Mine is an 867 with 640 mb of ram. So actually my box is the faster of the two. In any case, QE is still a huge improvement, even if it isn't "perfect."
:-)
... YMMV.
:-) Oh well.
As someone else commented the link is now dead. It was killing my T1. I left it up as long as I could stand it!
There was a guy who had a mirror but I just checked and it wasn't responding. That was at:
http://calnet.sdsu.edu/jaguardemo.mov
If anyone has a copy (a LOT of people downloaded the file) please mirror it.
Cheers,
John
P.S. I'm SO dissapointed that I posted this nifty video and didn't even get modded up!
Here's a better one. It's 20mb. Someone please MIRROR it as I don't want to be slashdotted.
http://207.182.242.235/jaguardemo1.mov (right click and save is probably wise).
I made that a few days ago (posted the link on macrumors), to see if that QE video was for real. It was, but there are some issues with sound. My footage has sound, so you can hear when it cuts out. QE is not as wonderful as the original video made it seem, but it isn't bad either. There's also a comparision at the end trying to do the same things under 10.1.4.
Again, please be kind and mirror that video.
I agree with this guy. I know Reuters says they tried it, but that's not good enough, I want proof. I agree that it's possible it may work since it's the DATA not audio tracks that are the issue, but like this guy said, it sounds a lot like the "green ink makes your CD's sound better" crap.
:-)
I'm not saying it ISN'T true, but I hardly think it's worth all this press and attention until it's been documented properly. Wouldn't we all look like morons if it was all some huge practical joke?
The original specs are wrong, it's $2999 for the SINGLE 1 GHz G4, $3999 for the dual. Not as sweet a deal, but still not too bad.
Not that we weren't expecting one eventually, but to my knowledge Apple has made no mention of any iPhoto updates. I would imagine that the author has some knowledge that us mere mortals do not. iPhoto is one iApp that could use a good update.
Based on what I've read on Apple's site about this the only client software available is for other Mac's. While that's fine in a lot of cases, most IT shops are Windows based and having a native client that could manage Mac servers and desktops would do nothing but encourage adoption of Apple computers. Plus it'd allow me to remote control my Mac from my Win2k box at home. VNC works for now at least.
Having said all that Microsoft does the same thing. There's no MS Remote Desktop/Terminal Services client for non-Windows OS's either. However there are third party options at least. Here's hoping someone does the same for Apple remote desktop.
John
I'm sure most of us have old PC's that aren't used for anything. Perhaps an interesting way to start something like this is to use older hardware that does nothing but act as a node. It wouldn't solve the power and noise problems, but it's an interesting start, a decent proof of concept and a use for otherwise useless computers.