Yes I see, I just didn't think about the grammar when posting that, but it was meant as more of a general remark. Not specifically opening a sorenson and saving it as divx.
What someone really needs to do is build into a NLE mpegtools, ie, being able to so simple chops & splices data frame by data frame without re-encoding.
Or maybe MJPEG fills that niche well enough. *shrug*
...if this sounds like a rather open ended question, but we have MPlayer playing pretty much any a/v codec on the planet right now, and we have decent video tools (esp. Cinelerra). What's stopping people getting together to make it possible for all the codecs being used universally?
ie- So that you're able to open sorenson encoded files seamlessly in cinelerra, and encode/save out to various divx mutations.
Come on people, we're so close!
I unserstand that libavcodec does this with many files (mpeg derivatives), but not the *ahem* less legal ones.
I can't wait until the day I plug a Firewire dv cam into a mandrake box, a dv cam icon pops up on the desktop and allows joe to edit away to his heart's content.
And while the eMac would be better, I'm still paying for an integrated monitor and a load of other crap that I don't want.
I don't know about you, but I just can not afford to spend $1100 on a computer.
People are always harping about how good MacOS X is, how it has succeeded in doing what Linux has failed to do, and claim that the machines to run it aren't all that expensive for what you get.
But they always overlook the fact that if you ignore the 'for what you get' bit, it remains that they are still expensive.
Yeah, but can you get Firewire 800, Firewire 400, built in Gigabit, 54 MBps wireless networking, and a set of sweet applications like Apple bundles with their machines for only $1999?
Yeah, but do I want Firewire 800, Firewire 400, built in Gigabit, 54 MBps wireless networking, and a set of 'sweet' (read: 'useless to me') applications like Apple bundles with their machines?
They will do realtime MJPEG encoding even on a relatively old machine. And because it is a hardware solution it should be less likely to jitter & choke every now and then.
AND because it is MJPEG and not MPEG like a previous post said it is good for re-editing later.
You're generally right about when they did it live, but for the actual album I think they were mostly done in protools and little hacks on their powerbooks. I think Thom created some mad things on his Titanium G4.
But when it came to doing it live they had to find ways of re-realising those sounds. But I don't know. Who really does know? It's a bit of a mystery and I think everyone kinda likes that.
Yeah I think those would be great. Unfortunately the ones you were pointing to were specialised and very expensive. I think a good alternative would be to go to your local model shop and buy a fuel pump. These are used for getting the fuel into model planes etc. These are almost always peristaltic pumps. You can either get a ready motorised one or get a manual one and hook up a stepper motor to it for precision.
As long as they've never been used to pump fuel they should be fine, plus as they are designed to pump fuels the alchohol should not make it perish or degrade.
...who wanted to actually know what the press release was about before they loaded it, it is about rendezvous being adopted by Tivo (sounds like it hooks into iLife software), Brother (for printers) and Aspyr (games/software).
...I can't imagine every manufacturer of every card is going to fix this....
And hence one of the greatnesses of open source. We don't have to wait for them to do it. Someone can go in and clear up the issue in all the Ethernet drivers just like that. No muss, no fuss. Fixed drivers.
I've never had any problems with ethernet cards like that, and in fact I've had several ethernet cards that were painful to get working (if at all) under windows, but once under linux, it was just a matter of insmodding the right module, and doing an ifconfig, and *BAM*, done. No problems. No mysterious things like:
"I booted windows this morning and my ethernet card didnt work!"
I run gentoo at the moment. Getting video working fully was a matter of
emerge nvidia-glx
Getting my vortex2 soundcard working just meant going to the website, getting the driver and insmodding it. In fact, it was even harder to get working under windows last time I used windows. Aureal is now non-existant, so getting drivers to work with win2k was an ordeal.
However, comparitively its MUCH easier to set up a windows box hardware-wise. This isn't because windows is better, it's because every hardware manufacturer either submits the drivers to MS so the drivers are autodetected and auto-installed, or they provide the disk and you stick it in and hit okay when windows prompts you. They're selling their hardware to people who still refer to computers as "that there thinkin' machine". And they all run Windows.
Maybe, but I'm not talking about the end user, I'm talking about the experienced server admin as I stated in my first post.
My last memory of installing windows was installing the os then hunting for every last driver around manufacturers websites, oems' websites, chipset manufacturers' websites etc etc etc. Or using the dodgy outdated ones you get on the driver disk.
I interpreted it as him saying that Windows was easier to clone. If not, why would it be in the Windows' Strengths section? But yes I think their sentence is ambiguous.
Having read their section on Windows' Strengths, there are several bits that I disagree with, but really the hardware issue is the most annoying.
Better hardware detection. Setting up UNIX on a new PC is difficult, requiring a more intimate knowledge of how the hardware is built. That's an up-front cost; given the existence of multiple identically configured systems, cloning an established system doesn't present the same problems.
This I don't agree with. Granted that you need a little bit more knowledge to get hardware working, if you do know what you're doing (and this paper is aimed at people who do, or at least should know what they're doing), it is far more reliable. If something goes wrong, there is a reason it went wrong, and a way to fix it. In windows, even the biggest guru finds the hardware detection system to be black magic to say the least. At worst, it can be completely random!
Plus cloning a Linux is very easy and reliable, because as a general rule there are fewer driver dependencies. Think about a Slackware setup booting into console only server mode. How many hardware/module dependencies are there? All I can think of is the Ethernet card. Other than that, the image is completely transferrable.
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Yes I see, I just didn't think about the grammar when posting that, but it was meant as more of a general remark. Not specifically opening a sorenson and saving it as divx.
What someone really needs to do is build into a NLE mpegtools, ie, being able to so simple chops & splices data frame by data frame without re-encoding.
Or maybe MJPEG fills that niche well enough. *shrug*
...if this sounds like a rather open ended question, but we have MPlayer playing pretty much any a/v codec on the planet right now, and we have decent video tools (esp. Cinelerra). What's stopping people getting together to make it possible for all the codecs being used universally?
ie- So that you're able to open sorenson encoded files seamlessly in cinelerra, and encode/save out to various divx mutations.
Come on people, we're so close!
I unserstand that libavcodec does this with many files (mpeg derivatives), but not the *ahem* less legal ones.
I can't wait until the day I plug a Firewire dv cam into a mandrake box, a dv cam icon pops up on the desktop and allows joe to edit away to his heart's content.
Actually it was whoever set up their dns. They didnt tell it to send port 80 requests to the root domain to freedesktop.redhat.com.
what is it about intelligence and the desire to blow things up?
Lack of it?
And as several readers pointed out, if you're interested in VoIP on Linux, you should also check out the sites of both...
Might I also add (the albeit not particularly well named, IMHO) Linphone.
Oh. You were taking about the old iMacs. I see. But still you're just paying less for an even more underpowered machine for OS X.
The New iMacs on store.apple.com start at $1200.
And while the eMac would be better, I'm still paying for an integrated monitor and a load of other crap that I don't want.
I don't know about you, but I just can not afford to spend $1100 on a computer.
People are always harping about how good MacOS X is, how it has succeeded in doing what Linux has failed to do, and claim that the machines to run it aren't all that expensive for what you get.
But they always overlook the fact that if you ignore the 'for what you get' bit, it remains that they are still expensive.
For the others, there is the iMac. {big grin}
Y'mean the ones starting at $1,200?
And only have 128MB of RAM?
Which is the minumum possible amount of RAM for running OSX according to Apple?
Let alone for doing anything serious with it.
Yeah, but can you get Firewire 800, Firewire 400, built in Gigabit, 54 MBps wireless networking, and a set of sweet applications like Apple bundles with their machines for only $1999?
Yeah, but do I want Firewire 800, Firewire 400, built in Gigabit, 54 MBps wireless networking, and a set of 'sweet' (read: 'useless to me') applications like Apple bundles with their machines?
...it has to be
bruce@ something
Find an old Iomega Buz on ebay.
They will do realtime MJPEG encoding even on a relatively old machine. And because it is a hardware solution it should be less likely to jitter & choke every now and then.
AND because it is MJPEG and not MPEG like a previous post said it is good for re-editing later.
You're generally right about when they did it live, but for the actual album I think they were mostly done in protools and little hacks on their powerbooks. I think Thom created some mad things on his Titanium G4.
But when it came to doing it live they had to find ways of re-realising those sounds. But I don't know. Who really does know? It's a bit of a mystery and I think everyone kinda likes that.
...that all the speak & spells on ebay with a 'buy it now' option have all _just_ been bought in the last few minutes?
Then, yesterday we get a Newsforge article completely denying it.
Now we hear this.
Mandrake certainly do seem to have issues with being honest with people. Plus I think they have a history of this, don't they?
Yeah I think those would be great. Unfortunately the ones you were pointing to were specialised and very expensive. I think a good alternative would be to go to your local model shop and buy a fuel pump. These are used for getting the fuel into model planes etc. These are almost always peristaltic pumps. You can either get a ready motorised one or get a manual one and hook up a stepper motor to it for precision.
As long as they've never been used to pump fuel they should be fine, plus as they are designed to pump fuels the alchohol should not make it perish or degrade.
That's one type of motherboard I won't be buying.
...who wanted to actually know what the press release was about before they loaded it, it is about rendezvous being adopted by Tivo (sounds like it hooks into iLife software), Brother (for printers) and Aspyr (games/software).
And hence one of the greatnesses of open source. We don't have to wait for them to do it. Someone can go in and clear up the issue in all the Ethernet drivers just like that. No muss, no fuss. Fixed drivers.
MythTV!
Still later, some company calls their restaurant "Lestaurant"
But there would be a difference, because a Lestaurant would serve chinese food.
I'll get my coat.
2nd prize -
- An Infamous TMDC Diploma
- tAAt T-Shirt
- Free Entry to Alternative Party 2003 (max. 2 persons)
3rd prize -
- An Infamous TMDC Diploma
- tAAt T-Shirt
- Free Entry to Alternative Party 2003 (max. 2 persons)
- A Banana from tAAt ry
I know it's only a joke, but the 3rd prize winner actually gets more than the 2nd does. Crazy. One whole Banana more.
OBSTETRICIAN: Yes. More apparatus, please, nurse: the E.E.G., the B.P. monitor, and the A.V.V.
NURSE #1: Yes. Certainly, Doctor.
DOCTOR SPENSER: And, uh, get the machine that goes 'ping'.
I've never had any problems with ethernet cards like that, and in fact I've had several ethernet cards that were painful to get working (if at all) under windows, but once under linux, it was just a matter of insmodding the right module, and doing an ifconfig, and *BAM*, done. No problems. No mysterious things like:
"I booted windows this morning and my ethernet card didnt work!"
I run gentoo at the moment. Getting video working fully was a matter of
emerge nvidia-glx
Getting my vortex2 soundcard working just meant going to the website, getting the driver and insmodding it.
In fact, it was even harder to get working under windows last time I used windows. Aureal is now non-existant, so getting drivers to work with win2k was an ordeal.
However, comparitively its MUCH easier to set up a windows box hardware-wise. This isn't because windows is better, it's because every hardware manufacturer either submits the drivers to MS so the drivers are autodetected and auto-installed, or they provide the disk and you stick it in and hit okay when windows prompts you. They're selling their hardware to people who still refer to computers as "that there thinkin' machine". And they all run Windows.
Maybe, but I'm not talking about the end user, I'm talking about the experienced server admin as I stated in my first post.
My last memory of installing windows was installing the os then hunting for every last driver around manufacturers websites, oems' websites, chipset manufacturers' websites etc etc etc.
Or using the dodgy outdated ones you get on the driver disk.
I interpreted it as him saying that Windows was easier to clone. If not, why would it be in the Windows' Strengths section?
But yes I think their sentence is ambiguous.
Having read their section on Windows' Strengths, there are several bits that I disagree with, but really the hardware issue is the most annoying.
Better hardware detection. Setting up UNIX on a new PC is difficult, requiring a more intimate knowledge of how the hardware is built. That's an up-front cost; given the existence of multiple identically configured systems, cloning an established system doesn't present the same problems.
This I don't agree with. Granted that you need a little bit more knowledge to get hardware working, if you do know what you're doing (and this paper is aimed at people who do, or at least should know what they're doing), it is far more reliable. If something goes wrong, there is a reason it went wrong, and a way to fix it. In windows, even the biggest guru finds the hardware detection system to be black magic to say the least. At worst, it can be completely random!
Plus cloning a Linux is very easy and reliable, because as a general rule there are fewer driver dependencies. Think about a Slackware setup booting into console only server mode. How many hardware/module dependencies are there? All I can think of is the Ethernet card. Other than that, the image is completely transferrable.