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Linux-Based Bar-Monkey

An anonymous reader writes "The Bar-Monkey is a bar built around a 486 running linux that can dispense an 8 ounce mixed drink in under 10 seconds. It uses a Matrix Orbital Serial LCD panel with a keypad built into the bar surface for user input. Three Harvey Mudd College students built the bar in their spare time last semester. The bar holds 16 ingredients with which it can currently mix 188 drinks stored in its drink database. Total project cost: $235."

540 comments

  1. kind of pianocktail ? by mirko · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Boris Vian fans will remember this jazz piano which was modified to create such drinks...
    Hey, in this time, nerds use to do jazz :-)

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  2. Old News by DasBub · · Score: 3, Funny

    Pfff, they did this in Short Circuit way back in the 80's.

    And THOSE things had lasers, fix you right, mate!

    1. Re:Old News by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Pfff, they did this in Short Circuit way back in the 80's."

      We all know that was a hoax. It was probably the Stone Cutters behind it. Afterall they did make Steve Gutenberg a star.

    2. Re:Old News by jpsst34 · · Score: 1

      Actually, it couldn't have been the StoneCutters. I can't get to the site due to an unexpectedly high volume of traffic, but I'm sure that if I could read the specs, it would describe how it dispenses ingredients measured in mililiters, as they're easier to compute than empiracle weights and measures, what being based in 10 and all. But, if you'll recall, it was the StoneCutters who kept the metric system down.

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    3. Re:Old News by po_boy · · Score: 4, Funny

      The metric system is a tool of the devil. My car gets 6 rods to the hogshead, and that's the way I likes it.

    4. Re:Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate to nitpick, but Grandpa Simpson's car gets 40 rods to the hogshead

  3. Finally! by Ninja+Master+Gara · · Score: 5, Funny
    Finally, the Linux "killer app" emerges! Windows is DOOMED!

    Hell, it's even cheaper than some versions of Windows, and it pours liquor!

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    1. Re:Finally! by saskboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Now if we combine those 3D printers with this project, and come up with a cheap material for the printer to use that can produce Crown Royal and Coke, then we're in business...

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    2. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      yeah, but shouldnt it be called "foo"?

    3. Re:Finally! by rutledjw · · Score: 5, Funny
      Bah! You're MISSING the bigger point. Now we'll no more free doubles, or extra booze in our drinks! No longer can I use my natural wit, charm and good looks to get free drinks!

      Oh wait, uuuhh, nevermind...

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    4. Re:Finally! by blibbleblobble · · Score: 1

      They spent $200 on an LCD?

      Y'know they cost about a tenner each. I have a couple of spare ones lying around that people can borrow.

    5. Re:Finally! by FyRE666 · · Score: 2

      Finally, the Linux "killer app" emerges

      I don't know, it still needs a few things - a high-score table would be cool - it could rack up the alcohol units for each customer. First to get through 50 bottles of scotch without killing themselves wins a free plush Linux penguin...

    6. Re:Finally! by sunwukong · · Score: 1

      *sniff!*

      After decades of waiting, the promise of hi tech that not only stores recipes but actually does something with them has been met!

      The Future is here .... and it's so beautiful ...

    7. Re:Finally! by l810c · · Score: 3

      They could rip one of these breathalyzers open and wire it in. This is a fairly cheap and accurate model: CA 2000. This model only reads HOT once it reaches .30 :)

    8. Re:Finally! by Samari711 · · Score: 1

      hey, maybe they left a debuging id# in there, like 11111 or 000001, the way microsoft does with the cd keys.

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  4. This could be useful by Zanek · · Score: 0

    Wow, Now all the need to do is automate this, and post it on Kazaa so everyone can make there own drink automotons !

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  5. imgnie by Seehund · · Score: 5, Funny

    a beowlfu clstr of theeeeeeeeeeesse

    *hic*

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    1. Re:imgnie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first funny "Beowulf Cluster" comment ever and someone moderates it down?!

    2. Re:imgnie by Em+Emalb · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Imagish a beo...a bea...a bunsha theseee.

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    3. Re:imgnie by CoolVibe · · Score: 2, Funny
      Hey, I'll buy it when it serves hot grits and has pictures of natalie portman on it.

      I'd buy OpenSourceMan a drink and grunt with OOG too :) MEEPT :)

    4. Re:imgnie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you've never been drunk before, have you?

  6. Cheap liquor? by vondo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dispenses 16 bottles of liquor for $235? Even if the hardware was free, I don't think I'd be drinking anything that came out of this "monkey."

    1. Re:Cheap liquor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOu don't drink much I am guessing. The 16 ingredients can include such cheap items as orange juice, coke, 7UP, Seltzer, limes, lemons, cherries. I am also guessing that the cost of all of this is not included in the $235, just the system itself.

    2. Re:Cheap liquor? by grub · · Score: 5, Funny

      2 types of Lysol (Original and Fresh Scent), 6 types of Aqua Velva aftershave, 1 bottle of rubbing alcohol, 1 windshield washer antifreeze, 3 melted down shoe wax...

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    3. Re:Cheap liquor? by ThrasherTT · · Score: 2

      Especially 16 1.75L bottles of liquor... that's just a little more expensive than 16 1.75's of Senator's Club Vodka

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    4. Re:Cheap liquor? by ianjk · · Score: 1

      Dispenses 16 bottles of liquor for $235? Even if the hardware was free, I don't think I'd be drinking anything that came out of this "monkey." never went to college did you. $14.69 each for each bottle should be top shelf to most college students.... $6 liters of Silver Wolf is where things start to go downhill.

    5. Re:Cheap liquor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, no, no. 3.50 bottles of mad dog 20/20 is where my nights usually started and ended....

    6. Re:Cheap liquor? by King_TJ · · Score: 2

      Ever since the dot-bomb, that's pretty much all I drink too!

      (Well, sometimes I can't afford the Aqua Velva, but.....)

    7. Re:Cheap liquor? by protein+folder · · Score: 1

      You forgot the sterno.

      And the Mad Dog 20/20 and Boone's Farm...

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    8. Re:Cheap liquor? by Cato+the+Elder · · Score: 2

      I have a feeling the ASPCA is going to be helping out with the liquor costs. (ASPCA--Alumni Society for Promoting the Consumption of Alchohol).

    9. Re:Cheap liquor? by pokeyburro · · Score: 2

      ...and a keg of Coors. Egad.

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    10. Re:Cheap liquor? by aeakett · · Score: 1

      Whoa! I just thought of something. Here in Ontario it's against the law to serve inoxicated patrons (I think you can lose your liquor liscence). What kind of laws are there about this in the monkey's state. And who would be responsible (since it's self-served)?

    11. Re:Cheap liquor? by sonya_carr · · Score: 1

      Sweet, sweet ASPCA, how we love you! Fulfilling our needs for refreshment and sport! Well, if you can call beerball a sport.

    12. Re:Cheap liquor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the monkey's state, the drinking age is 21, so it's illegal to serve most of the patrons regardless of intoxication. And the Monkey definitely doesn't have a liquor license. Welcome to the wonderful, seedy underworld of college binge drinking!

    13. Re:Cheap liquor? by aeakett · · Score: 1

      yeah, but... somebody is probably going to get busted over this right (you gotta figure)? So what are the legal ramifications?

    14. Re:Cheap liquor? by Blimey85 · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Dude! Don't dis the Boon's Farm... I actually like that stuff. Isn't sterno lighter fluid or camping alcohol or something like that? I know I've seen that name on something camping related... too damn lazy to walk out to my garage and check though.

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    15. Re:Cheap liquor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody ever gets busted for liquor at HMC. That's just the way it is.

    16. Re:Cheap liquor? by Flower · · Score: 2
      Put a breath analyzer in it so first you have to blow it and get a drink.

      IMHO, this is just another example of technology getting it wrong. The cute blonde should be the one I'm getting a drink and later it should be me getting the blow. But hey who am I to critique?

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    17. Re:Cheap liquor? by Walterk · · Score: 1
      Well, everybody who uses it needs to have an account, so their age can be checked or something? Ah who cares, just pass me a
      SELECT index FROM drinks ORDER BY amount_of_alcohol LIMIT 1;
      Thanks chuck.
    18. Re:Cheap liquor? by Walterk · · Score: 1
      oh wait, that's the wimpiest drink, I mean:
      SELECT index FROM drinks ORDER BY amount_of_alcohol DESC LIMIT 1;
    19. Re:Cheap liquor? by silvaran · · Score: 3, Funny

      Trying to remember how you became blind: Priceless

    20. Re:Cheap liquor? by ShawnDoc · · Score: 2
      ...so first you have to blow it and get a drink.

      Many a lady has gotten free drinks from a bartender this way, somehow I don't think it would work on this machine.

    21. Re:Cheap liquor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am one of the builders, and I think it's worth mentioning that the $235 was the *production cost* and that the alcohol and mixers are purchased separately with the user account funds. As such, if people want better alcohol, they need to expect more expensive prices...

    22. Re:Cheap liquor? by tbone1 · · Score: 1
      Dude! Don't dis the Boon's Farm... I actually like that stuff. Isn't sterno lighter fluid or camping alcohol or something like that?

      During Prohibition, some people would strain Sterno through a handkerchief and drink it. (The Sterno, that is, not the handkerchief.) It was known as "Canned Heat". Blues musician Tommy Johnson got hooked on it and had a song about it called "Canned Heat Blues" ... whence came a really bad sixties band's name.

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  7. Thats great! by drblunt · · Score: 5, Funny
    Now, the bar monkey, all the alcohol, none of the needless social interaction!
    Wondeful.

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    1. Re:Thats great! by outsider007 · · Score: 3, Funny

      take this, a george foreman grill and a dance dance revolution machine and you've got a night on the town without ever having to leave your parent's basement.

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  8. Linux for the masses by Herr_Nightingale · · Score: 2, Funny

    what a breakthrough :D finally, something we all can use.

    1. Re:Linux for the masses by rmadmin · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, except I don't think I'd get as much thrill out of watching my drunk friend hit on a machine as when he hits on the 40 year old 350lb woman that works at our bar.

    2. Re:Linux for the masses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least there's a chance the robot would want him...

    3. Re:Linux for the masses by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      watching my drunk friend hit on a machine

      Maybe not hit on the machine, but he can certainly hit the machine. What, you never tried that Punch the Monkey game?

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  9. uhm.. by 216pi · · Score: 5, Funny

    looks like the bar is smoking...

    this was the very first slashdotted bartender...

    1. Re:uhm.. by Mr.Happy3050 · · Score: 1

      Linux. It's drinking.

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  10. slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and so the mighty server crumbles under the immense power of the awsome /. army :)

    1. Re:slashdot by Ninja+Master+Gara · · Score: 2

      heh maybe they were using apache on the linux monkey as the web server. /. shut down the bar and crashed the party :(

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    2. Re:slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, based on all the Apaches I know, combining them with liquor leads to hundreds of years of hardship. ahem.

  11. With apologies... by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Funny

    "You want some more?"

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    1. Re:With apologies... by limekiller4 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I can almost guarantee this will be modded down for lack of recognition. How about:

      Cornelius: "I feel so guilty sending her to do the dirty work. I know she was made to be strong but she's also so fragile... So human. You know what I mean?"
      Bartender: [shaking head]

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    2. Re:With apologies... by coso · · Score: 1

      None necessary, not even for beating me to it...

    3. Re:With apologies... by jacko_le_wacko · · Score: 1

      Bartender: "you want some more"?

      It's from the Fifth Element.

      For a second there, I thought it was an obscure
      Planet of the Apes reference...

      jc

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    4. Re:With apologies... by dperkins · · Score: 1

      Another Great One:

      We don' have no beer...just tequila.
      What's Tequila?
      Ees like Beer...
      We'll take 3 of them!

      This is a timeless classic. One of the great bar dialogues of all time.

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  12. Hrmm by ThrasherTT · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apparently the Bar Monkey is serving Harvey Mudd's web site as well...

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    1. Re:Hrmm by N0decam · · Score: 1

      Won't be serving much else for a while anyway.

    2. Re:Hrmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm.. Harvey Wallbanger v 1.0

    3. Re:Hrmm by muyuubyou · · Score: 2

      Dunno whether the BarMonkey or not, but it looks like they use 486s for serving too. Beer budget must be higher than web server budget after all :)

    4. Re:Hrmm by TarPitt · · Score: 1

      Naw, they are just off early for Friday Happy Hour.

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  13. Barmonkey! by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    "Barmonkey.."
    bleep bloop
    "Tea, Earl Grey, Hot."

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    1. Re:Barmonkey! by GNUman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, as long as if asked for a beer it doesn't give me something that tastes almost, but not quite, completely unlike beer... then they're on the right track...

    2. Re:Barmonkey! by Heywood+Yabuzof · · Score: 1

      So, you're saying that's why the webserver is down? BarMonkey too busy trying to make tea? ;-)

    3. Re:Barmonkey! by Kuroyi · · Score: 1

      Have you ever tried Earl Grey tea? It sucks.

    4. Re:Barmonkey! by grub · · Score: 1


      Have you ever tried Earl Grey tea?
      Yes.

      It sucks.
      To each his own..

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    5. Re:Barmonkey! by djhankb · · Score: 0

      well, at least it's better than trying to make "tea" and "no tea" at the same time...

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    6. Re:Barmonkey! by CaseyB · · Score: 2

      "Tea, Long Island, Iced."

    7. Re:Barmonkey! by blibbleblobble · · Score: 1

      "Tea, Earl Grey, Hot."

      "Computer! Get us away from this space-monster!"

      "Beep. Computing why the human wants leaves in hot water...."

    8. Re:Barmonkey! by plover · · Score: 2

      "Barmonkey."
      tweedle-fwoop
      "Ale, Romulan. Neat."
      bleep!

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  14. Linux good for you health! by GreyPoopon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Coupled with the latest study on alcohol and the heart, it looks like we can now officially say that Linux is good for your health!

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    1. Re:Linux good for you health! by bytesmythe · · Score: 2

      This is good news, because dese nuts are bad fo' yo' health.

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    2. Re:Linux good for you health! by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      Isn't it ironic that MSFT circa 1978 looks exactly like the Linux community of 2003?

      Is ironic even the word I want? Pathetic maybe?

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    3. Re:Linux good for you health! by linzeal · · Score: 1

      Yeah but the ms peeps get all the babes it looks like.

    4. Re:Linux good for you health! by Chocolate+Teapot · · Score: 1

      Aaaaargh! Don't be surprised if the M$ lawyers come knocking on /.'s door demanding that they remove your posting on the grounds that it links to M$ copyrighted material. Failing that, it should be removed in the interests of common decency :)

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    5. Re:Linux good for you health! by zootread · · Score: 1

      Get with the times man, these days people in the Linux community look like this. And yes, they get laid a lot.

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  15. Heavy task load. by BWJones · · Score: 1

    The bar holds 16 ingredients with which it can currently mix 188 drinks stored in its drink database.

    Gee, that does not seem like much of a load to challenge linux. I was running databases on Apple ]['s and TRS-80 model II's that were bigger than this back when I was twelve. I guess this story falls into the category of "Hey, X-whatever running Linux! Cool!"

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    1. Re:Heavy task load. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Ummm... maybe the problem has to do with how many drink recipes they had that could be produced with the 16 available ingredients?

    2. Re:Heavy task load. by uberkludge · · Score: 1

      Well, get an Apple ][ or TRS-80 to serve me alcohol, and I'll give you kudos instead...

    3. Re:Heavy task load. by BWJones · · Score: 1

      I seem to remember reading about someone who actually did just this, but I can't for the life of me find a link to it. There was an entire underground of folks that did all sorts of Apple ][ controlled robotic arms and such, but I never really got into that end of things.

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    4. Re:Heavy task load. by s0l0m0n · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How about the fact that it's a server that serves drinks?

      Who cares what OS it runs.. It can get you drunk.

    5. Re:Heavy task load. by Captain+Large+Face · · Score: 2

      I think it's probably more to do with the ingredients than the storage capacity...

    6. Re:Heavy task load. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like it's doing some robotics work too; it has to control the drink mixing machinery as well.

    7. Re:Heavy task load. by BWJones · · Score: 2

      How about the fact that it's a server that serves drinks? Who cares what OS it runs.. It can get you drunk.

      So, explain to me why you need a computer to do this? You should have a built in OS that takes care of getting drunk just fine already, so what's the deal?

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    8. Re:Heavy task load. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because they don't have a chip burner in their dorm room?
      Look, it's fun, they put it together themselves using what they knew, and for only a few hundred bucks. Stop whining about it running linux.

      Some people here I think make a hobby of being linux reactionaries.

    9. Re:Heavy task load. by Jouster · · Score: 2

      *ahem*

      I work with computers that run Mac OS 9 and FileMaker 5.0. They drive me to drink. Does that count?

      Jouster

    10. Re:Heavy task load. by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
      Well, get an Apple ][ or TRS-80 to serve me alcohol, and I'll give you kudos instead...

      Once I get my brewing fridge cleaned up (lots of rust and stickers on the outside that I want to remove), I plan on setting up a II+ as a temperature controller...it should be able to start at one temperature for primary fermentation and slowly ramp the temperature down for lagering. Instead of serving alcohol, it'll assist in making the stuff. :-)

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    11. Re:Heavy task load. by KewlPC · · Score: 1

      It has nothing to do with 188 drinks being the most the system can handle. Rather, 188 drinks was probably all they could come up with using the 16 available ingredients. Remember, with 16 ingredients the maximum possible combinations is "only" 256 different kinds of drinks. In the real world, though, it's inevitable that certain ingredients won't go together very well, so the number of possible combinations comes down, and having 188 possible combinations is a fairly reasonable number.

      Does it push the system to its limits? No. Is 188 still an assload of different kinds of drinks? Yes.

      It would be cool to see a real bar use something like this, just to see what the customer reaction was. Maybe they could only bring it out on the busy nights when they're understaffed or something.

      But do they have a way for the system to know when the ingredients are running low? It didn't look like it to me.

    12. Re:Heavy task load. by silentbozo · · Score: 2

      Remember, with 16 ingredients the maximum possible combinations is "only" 256 different kinds of drinks. In the real world, though, it's inevitable that certain ingredients won't go together very well, so the number of possible combinations comes down, and having 188 possible combinations is a fairly reasonable number.

      Not true, given that different drinks can be mixed with the same ingredients, but in different proportions. Also, several of the "ingredients" are up for possible replacement (according to the website), so the available drinks could change. Lastly, they do mention that the machine has space for many more recipies, implying that 188 is merely a starting number of drink recipies, not an upper bound imposed by available ingredients.

      My question is, why only have 1.7 liters of each beverage available? Wouldn't you run out of drinks rather quickly in a party situation?

    13. Re:Heavy task load. by KewlPC · · Score: 1

      Well, according to posts on /. by the guys who made the thing, what they did was take the list of ingredients and run it through an online drink database. They then programmed the results into BarMonkey.

      When/if they change the ingredients, the number of drinks that BarMonkey can make will increase or decrease, depending on the results obtained from inputting the new list of ingredients into the online database.

  16. Nice concept by j_kenpo · · Score: 2

    This is actually a very interesting idea. Although its cool that its being done on Linux, it doesnt mean that it couldnt be done on Windows. But its still a cool concept. Ill probally end up building one for myself since I cant mix drinks to save my life.

    1. Re:Nice concept by neurojab · · Score: 2, Informative

      Using windows would almost double their budget, so I think it's fair to say it can only be done cheaply and legally with a free OS.

    2. Re:Nice concept by j_kenpo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Now that I think about it, this is actually a very good money making idea. This could work wonders in resturaunts and bars where heavy volume is a problem. Id probally do it a little differently so instead of reservoirs you just attach the actual bottle to it (similar to the Jaggermeister dispensers if youve ever seen one), but if youve ever seen resturaunt employees who have to wait on an overworked bar staff, you could imagine the potential for this. This is actually a very interesting idea, I give props to the creators..

    3. Re:Nice concept by gordie · · Score: 2, Informative

      Already being done! Most of the bars at Casinos use automated bar tenders. The guy in the "monkey suite" just presses a button and out comes your drink. No chance of "over pouring" and giving out too strong a drink. Don't want too loose money by not maximising the number of drinks per liter of booze!!!

    4. Re:Nice concept by grub · · Score: 1


      it doesnt mean that it couldnt be done on Windows

      That's right, of course you'd have to sign a 38 page NDA before seeing the machine actually mix your rye and coke.

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    5. Re:Nice concept by Zach978 · · Score: 1

      Seems the oposite in the Bahamas. From what I've seen the rum is cheaper than the coke ;)

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    6. Re:Nice concept by grub · · Score: 3, Funny



      Ah! Found the agreement...

      This Drink Mixing and Consuming Agreement (DMCA) is between Microsoft Corporation (known hereon as The Company) and yourself (known hereon as The Consumer).

      The Consumer agrees that all recipes and formulations for any and all potables known by The MS-BarMonkey and any and all future additions to the drink library are the property of The Company.

      The Consumer agrees that The Consumer will not attempt formulating these consumables without the use of the MS-BarMonkey.

      The Consumer agrees that The Company may revoke this license at any time at which time The Consumer will pour all liquor and mix in their abode down the drain.

      The Consumer will not share these drink formulations with outside parties as they are The Company's trade secrets.

      ..
      ..

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    7. Re:Nice concept by monkeyserver.com · · Score: 2

      Actually I believe it is, and cheaper than water too. Man, it's all about those Pusser's Painkillers (#3 please :)

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    8. Re:Nice concept by sugam · · Score: 1

      See, thats what sucks about automatic pourers. Everytime I walk into a place that has stoppers or uses automated machines I walk right out. Since I live in the heart of San Francisco, I'll usually go out every night of the week. Overpouring is a good thing, drinks that are made "Correctly" rarely taste good, in my opinion. In the case of automated pouring, you also dont get the relationship with a bartender you can normally get which leads to perks, of course.

      a) Using top shelf liquor instead of Absolut
      b) Free drinks
      c) free cover
      d) staying after 2
      e) introduction to girls
      f) line priveleges

      Granted it costs the bar a little more, but thats how you build a clientele that comes back often and brings their friends which leads to further long-term profits. Every good bartender knows that. Its just like those coffee shops that have one click espresso drinks. Those suck, there is just no love in the drink and you can taste it.

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    9. Re:Nice concept by Craig+Davison · · Score: 2
      Its just like those coffee shops that have one click espresso drinks. Those suck, there is just no love in the drink and you can taste it.

      You can hardly compare the two. "Espresso" machines usually use instant coffee, or they have the ground coffee sitting in some nasty moist plastic container all day long.

      However, mixing alcoholic drinks is mixing alcholic drinks. All the ingredients are premade anyway (and pop/soft drinks come from a pump anyway!) and alcohol doesn't go bad when it sits out. Any monkey can pour two things together (hence the name of the Bar-Monkey, I guess).

  17. But..... by pimpmaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can it make a Flaming Homer..

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    "Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." Dark Helmet - Spaceballs
    1. Re:But..... by VikingBerserker · · Score: 5, Funny

      Considering how Slashdot's treating the site, I'd say about all this helper monkey will do for now is say "Pray for Mojo."

    2. Re:But..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It runs Linux. It only makes flaming homos.

    3. Re:But..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what do you think the current /.ing is doing, hum?

      Artaxerxes

    4. Re:But..... by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 2

      How 'bout a Holy Bartender?

    5. Re:But..... by SuperDuG · · Score: 2
      Asrael NO!

      ugh, I'm going straight to hell for knowing movies too well.

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      Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
    6. Re:But..... by Cumstien · · Score: 1

      It's a Flamming Moe. I invented it. Me, Moe Syzslak.

    7. Re:But..... by Echoloc8 · · Score: 1

      Hahaha Holy Bartender that's a *great* one...

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    8. Re:But..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but the Flaming Moe is great!

  18. Well, you know... by warpSpeed · · Score: 4, Funny
    This might be the closest some geeks get to "sex on the beach" on demand.

    1. Re:Well, you know... by oliverthered · · Score: 2

      This would be the case, but I don't see any strawbery on the list of ingredients.

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    2. Re:Well, you know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmmm... looks like there are lots of recipies for sex on the beach.

      This one's how I'd make it.

    3. Re:Well, you know... by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Maybe no strawberries, but I know the slashdot crowd could provide more than enough cherries.

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    4. Re:Well, you know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well in B.

      WIBSTR

      -West Dorm President '96-'97

  19. Huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Bar-Monkey is a bar built around a 486 running linux that can dispense an 8 ounce mixed drink in under 10 seconds.

    Okay, but what do you do with the other 2/3 of the glass?

  20. Its name is Mudd by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 1


    Harvey Mudd College's webserver just bit the slashdot bullet on this one.

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    1. Re:Its name is Mudd by s20451 · · Score: 1

      Wow ... Harvey Mudd from Star Trek ...

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    2. Re:Its name is Mudd by dcuny · · Score: 1
      Harvey Mudd was pardoned by President Andrew Johnson in 1869, and in 1979 a presidential proclamation cleared his name. So I'm not sure why there is still controversy over this.

      Interestingly, the case has some relevance to current news. Mudd's supporters complain that, as a citizen, he should not have been tried in a military tribunal in the first place. Bush is claiming the right to hold people like Abdullah Al-Mujahir as "enemy combatants". There was a recent ruling upholding the Bush position, but I can't find it on Google, sorry...

    3. Re:Its name is Mudd by dcuny · · Score: 1
      Sorry, apologies to all... I was referring to Dr. Samual Mudd, not Harvey. It was a bit of a tangent, but it's historical trivia so I thought people might be interested.

      Again, sorry about that!

    4. Re:Its name is Mudd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, that was Harry Mudd in Star Trek. Harvey Mudd made his fortune copper mining in Cyprus, and then conveniently died, allowing his brother to donate it to a startup college :).

    5. Re:Its name is Mudd by Capt.+DrunkenBum · · Score: 2

      Not Harvey Mudd.

      Harry Mudd....

      Or in full: Harcourt Fenton Mudd.

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    6. Re:Its name is Mudd by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      Or in full: Harcourt Fenton Mudd.

      Harcourt Fenton Mudd the Third, if you please.

      --
      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
    7. Re:Its name is Mudd by Walterk · · Score: 1

      Had a bit too much of the Monkey, eh?

  21. I want one by Chocolate+Teapot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does it require a designated driver?

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    Modest doubt is called the beacon of the wise. - William Shakespeare
    1. Re:I want one by sapped · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, just a signed driver.

    2. Re:I want one by jackbox · · Score: 1

      LOL! Shame we can't mod this one up another 5 points!

    3. Re:I want one by Obsequious · · Score: 2

      Not if you don't mind if it crashes.

    4. Re:I want one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if it's next to your bed ;P

  22. So what happens... by kwilliams · · Score: 0

    So what happens if the program gets an error? You ask for fruit punch and it gets spiked? Perfect for a family Christmas party!

  23. Expected Rapid Growth? by T-Kir · · Score: 2

    Currently has 30 registered user accounts, with expected rapid growth as people cease being broke.

    This part is also right before the CounterCentral number of 860... there is certainly going to be rapid growth in traffic as well as interest.

    Oh, and are there enough people out there who will "cease being broke"... the inverse of which now also happens to be the state of their site!

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  24. Must...be...said... by thelexx · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Imagine a Beowulf, hic, clushter of these....

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    1. Re:Must...be...said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -1 Redundant?

      I thought it was kinda funny. I mean, not rolling on the floor, Funny. But as a variation-on-a-theme Funny, it works.

      Dufus moderator.

    2. Re:Must...be...said... by mlush · · Score: 1
      Imagine a Beowulf, hic, clushter of these....

      Yesssssssssth, bud it may be the last comPUta I ever build.. hic!

    3. Re:Must...be...said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, redundant, because someone beat him to the joke already.

  25. Needs ice by D3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I didn't see ice being dispensed. How about a Lego robotic arm to grab a couple cubes and toss them in the glass!

    --
    Do really dense people warp space more than others?
    1. Re:Needs ice by StandardDeviant · · Score: 2

      ice sucks. cool the reservoirs if you want cold drinks, but leave the damn liquor alone!

    2. Re:Needs ice by JoshRoss · · Score: 1

      Well, its not lego but i think these guys have the right idea... http://www.honeybeerobotics.com/robo.htm

    3. Re:Needs ice by linzeal · · Score: 1

      Are you talking good ice? Try using evian, or your favorite mineral water for ice sometime, I like gerolsteiner ,myself.

    4. Re:Needs ice by Tisha_AH · · Score: 1

      Don't water the drinks down. When the temperature sensor on the processor starts peaking a little ice cube (de-ionized water so things don't short out) drops on top of the chip. What... this isn't running "zillion clock-cycles to add 2+2", Windows...!) Linux, it should run nice and cool, expecially if you don't compile code while drinking.

      --
      Tisha Hayes
    5. Re:Needs ice by mstra · · Score: 1

      Inaccurate, my friend...

      When you're drinking good liquor straight, then neat is the way to go.

      But the majority of mixed cocktails (such as highballs and two-liquors) are meant to be served over rocks.

      Have you ever had a white russian without ice? Doesn't taste right. Know why? BECAUSE THERE'S NO ICE!

      Now, my question is...how does this machine do blended drinks? Any drink with sour mix in it must be shaken/blended to be mixed properly. You can't just dump it into the glass.

      m.

      (I'm a geek, but also a bartender)

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  26. LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Bahaha that was a great scene.

    For those of you who missed the reference, it's from the highly underrated Fifth Element. This guy is pouring out his heart to a bartender, and asks if he knows what he means.

    Camera angle cuts over and the bartender's a robot. It shakes it's head no and askes "You want some more?", which is funny since that's pretty much the reaction I've gotten from human bartenders the two or three times I've gone to drown serious sorrows.

    1. Re:LOL by TarPitt · · Score: 1
      You just need to pour out a heartfelt personal problem that this bartender can understand and empathize with. Like:



      I receive errors stating the setup is invalid or there are fatal errors when upgrading from Windows 98 or Windows Me. How do I fix this?


      That will get a definite response here....

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      If your children ever found out how lame you are, they'd murder you in your sleep
  27. Note to self: by crawdaddy · · Score: 1

    Do not attempt to use Bar-Monkey as webserver.

    1. Re:Note to self: by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      Restrict the access. You might want an admin page so you can check the stock levels at work, and stop by the liquor store on the way home.

      But don't use MS IIS or you might start finding worms in your drinks.

      --
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  28. finally, an appropriate use of technology by DJSpray · · Score: 5, Funny

    Using an unreliable battery-operated device to replace a pad and paper to store names and addresses? Nope.

    Making our lives miserable and giving us the attention span of hyperactive gnats by making us always available for harassment via telemarketers, pages, e-mails, and instant messages? Nope.

    Giving us carpal tunnel syndrome and tendonitis just to move a cursor around the screen or pilot Mario around? Nah.

    Making it so our kids can't use a paper library or fix their own spelling errors? No way...

    Making it so the documents and esigns we spend our lives writing and creating have a recoverable life span less than a tenth that of the lowest-grade _paper_ available? Not even close...

    Mixing a perfect gin and tonic? Now THAT'S technology!!!

    1. Re:finally, an appropriate use of technology by zootread · · Score: 1

      Goddamn, you and the rest of this thread has inspired me to go out drinking tonight :)

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      Zoot!
  29. Oblig. Simpsons Quote by MrByte420 · · Score: 1

    To Alcohol: The cause of and solution to all of life's problems.

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  30. too bad... by trybywrench · · Score: 5, Funny

    it doesn't have a web server built in then we could /. it and keep people from getting there drinks. Maybe a fight would break out and spread to the street. A few bystanders get involved and we have the first /riot.

    --
    I came to the datacenter drunk with a fake ID, don't you want to be just like me?
    1. Re:too bad... by SunPin · · Score: 1

      Only in a Los Angeles Internet cafe... imagine that geek on geek violence that comes out of Counter Strike with this thing around.

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      Laws are for people with no friends.
  31. This is really cool! by MrJerryNormandinSir · · Score: 1

    I want to build one! Where's the code! This is awesome! I can't mix drinks to save my life!
    Ahh, I can picture this in my cellar, along with a
    small bar!

    1. Re:This is really cool! by Exedore · · Score: 2

      Hey, I actually have a small bar in my (finished) cellar. My wife has an old Pentium 2 that's just about due to be replaced... It seems I've found the perfect use for it.

      Behold, for this is a glorious moment! My life now has meaning!

      --

      I take drugs seriously.

  32. Sounds fun... a digest. by Duds · · Score: 5, Funny

    Right, let's get some of these out of the way

    - Can it mix a flaming Homer?
    - To add a new drink do you need to recompile the kernal
    - Can you get KPeanuts?
    - It'd do it in 9 seconds if it ran Gnome
    - To get ice do you have to type MixScotch -ice
    - Ah, but will it listen to how bad your day was. "Barmonkey? yeah Windows 98 crashed again"

    Hmm, that's probably all of the non technical posts for this story.

    1. Re:Sounds fun... a digest. by jdreed1024 · · Score: 2
      You forgot:

      "10 seconds? But I'm thirsty now!"

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    2. Re:Sounds fun... a digest. by Gulik · · Score: 1
      - Ah, but will it listen to how bad your day was. "Barmonkey? yeah Windows 98 crashed again"

      I'm sure they could set it up with Eliza and a keyboard. You'd probably get better feedback than most of the flesh-and-blood variety would give.

      "How do you feel about Windows 98 crashed again?"

    3. Re:Sounds fun... a digest. by Duds · · Score: 2

      Yes, but then Eliza would get drunk.

      "Will Windows 98 crashed again be my friend"
      "Eliza so lonley"
      "Eliza never find true love"

    4. Re:Sounds fun... a digest. by einhverfr · · Score: 2

      It'd do it in 9 seconds if it ran Gnome Nah-- on a 80486, it would probably take 90 seconds if it was running KDE or GNOME.

      - To get ice do you have to type MixScotch -ice
      Nope-- from the MixScotch man page

      -c chill-- run through cooling device first
      -e Extended (depricated, but intended to be backwards compatible with version 1.0.0). Use -Ei instead.
      -E Expression ("type=[blended,single],size=[1-5])
      -i Interactive: Confirm input.
      -r --Rocks Serve with ice (on the rocks)

      The correct syntax is MixScotch --Rocks or MixScotch -r, and if you type MixScotch -ice, you will get involved in an archaeic, depricated command line.

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    5. Re:Sounds fun... a digest. by istartedi · · Score: 2

      If you try to get Brass Monkey from the Bar-Monkey, will the stack overflow?

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  33. But can it... by kaosrain · · Score: 2

    Does it know how to mix a Slashdotting, on the rocks?

  34. The Killer Geek App by Amsterdam+Vallon · · Score: 1

    Now all you sketchy Linux geeks can use your favorite operating system to help you get laid.

    Just drag or call women from the neighborhood over to your basement and let the drinking begin.

    Your "rugged" look will start to get sexier and sexier with every drink that the girls consume courtesy of your Linux-powered virginity crusher!

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    1. Re:The Killer Geek App by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      C'mon, the idea of a "Linux Powered Virginity Crusher" deserves at least a 5!

  35. $235?... by meringuoid · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... Does that include the drinks?

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  36. Harvey Mudd? by stoolpigeon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wasn't that the guy Captain Kirk condemned to live w/a bunch of robot replicas of his wife?

    .

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    1. Re:Harvey Mudd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I forget whether it was Henry or Harvey Mudd - but yes, it was. The story goes that the relevant Mudd was friends with a Star Trek writer. He is (or was, I believe he's dead now) a real person, and part of the Mudd family who founded the college.

      Anonymous HMC alum

    2. Re:Harvey Mudd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Harcourt Fenton Mudd, actually.

    3. Re:Harvey Mudd? by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      Wasn't that the guy Captain Kirk condemned to live w/a bunch of robot replicas of his wife?

      Harry Mudd - Mudd's Women

      And, with all the excitement of cloning these days, how topical!

      A Linux powered people maker.

      "Hair: Blonde, Eyes: Blue, Breasts: Medium and pert, Lips: full, uh, oh nothing honey, I didn't see you come in, no i'm not doi

      NO CARRIER

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      A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    4. Re:Harvey Mudd? by natophonic · · Score: 1

      ... and, he liked the ladies. when he passed away, there was court battle over his estate between the family and the fifteen or so mistresses who'd allegedly been promised a part of the loot.

  37. Mirror? by McFly69 · · Score: 2

    Anyone has a mirror? Monkey is already dead :(

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    1. Re:Mirror? by rrkennedy · · Score: 1

      Try this.

      I'm not sure if this is the original page, but this is all that google found.

    2. Re:Mirror? by sonya_carr · · Score: 1

      Nope, the original page had pictures and whatnot. That's a homework assignment. Nearly all the problem sets/coding assignments for the computer science and biology departments revolve around alcohol... any Mudders out there remember the Groodies, who could reproduce only in ice-cold beer?

    3. Re:Mirror? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      heh heh. groodies.

      They could only reproduce in Schlitz, as i recall...

  38. 10 Seconds? by GMontag · · Score: 4, Funny

    TEN Seconds? For crying out loud! That is an eternity when my glass is empty! Human bartenders are much quicker, well after I get them properly trained.

    Then again, this thing might be a lot faster with draft Fosters only, rather than having all of thos other confusing ingrediants mucking things up.

    1. Re:10 Seconds? by cetan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Fosters: Australian for Shit-Beer-We-Send-To-The-States-And-Laugh-When-The y-Drink-It...

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    2. Re:10 Seconds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and then imagine you goofed and you switched the bottle of apple juice with the bottle of whiskey.

      Nowm it's gonna your niece who's gonna be happy when she'll get her favorite refreshing apple juice.

      artaxerxes

    3. Re:10 Seconds? by jimmyphysics · · Score: 2, Funny

      why not use piss instead? tastes the same as fosters.

    4. Re:10 Seconds? by palmpunk · · Score: 1

      Read the bottle. Fosters is made in Canada. At least the kind we get in the states is...

    5. Re:10 Seconds? by cetan · · Score: 1

      Maybe you've not seen a Fosters commerial, but that's what I was making fun of...

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  39. Combinations... by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny
    The bar holds 16 ingredients with which it can currently mix 188 drinks stored in its drink database. Total project cost: $235."

    16^2-16 = 240. Where'd the rest of them go? :-)

    Now imagine if you will, a Linux powered lunch counter cook...

    Man: Well, what've you got?

    Waitress: Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage and spam; spam egg spam spam bacon and spam; spam sausage spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam;

    Vikings: Spam spam spam spam...

    Oh, wait, it's already been predicted. Nevermind.

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    1. Re:Combinations... by sniperindisguise · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Monty Python Rules!!

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    2. Re:Combinations... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There probably wasn't much call for, e.g., whiskey and orange juice.

    3. Re:Combinations... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't knock it till you try it... then you can knock it.. knock it all ya want!!!

    4. Re:Combinations... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IMHO Glenlivit scotch does not mix well gin. I don't know what ingredients are used but I'm sure there are plenty of incompatible combinations.

    5. Re:Combinations... by Captain+Large+Face · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That should really be 16! (2, 092, 278, 988, 000), not 16^2 - 16, as a drink may consist of more than two ingredients (whether or not the glass could contain 16 measures is another matter). However, I hope it wouldn't suggest Coke and Tonic, 'cos that'd be nasty.

    6. Re:Combinations... by BoneFlower · · Score: 1

      It may be that it only knows how to make 188... IT certainly could do more with proper programming.

    7. Re:Combinations... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Sweet, I get to rant about two of my pasions: drink and math :)

      Your math is bunk. First of all, you're assuming that pouring drinks is a binary operation where a given ingredient is either in there or not, on or off. This simply isn't true, as proportions of different ingredients is often what makes or breaks a drink. For example, of the 188 drinks BarMonkey can make, 10 of them could be just vodka and sweet vermouth in different proportions, yeilding many levels of "dryness" to martinis. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, there's definetly some permutations that won't really work. (e.g. gin, whiskey, tequila, and tonic probably wouldn't be too great, but you never know) Therefore, the number of ingredients available to the system is only a starting point with regards to indicating how many cocktails can be mixed, not a deterministic number....

      Of course, I haven't yet been able to read the article as the sight is slashdotted, but nevertheless, you get my point.

    8. Re:Combinations... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think so. 16! is the number of permuations (with no repetition), not combinations (with no repetition). You're counting a rum and coke and a coke and rum as two drinks. I think the solution is binary counting with each bit a different drink. So 2^16-1.

      Again, assuming the amount of each drink isn't factored in.

    9. Re:Combinations... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think again. You mean 2^16. 16! would be if you had to use all of the ingredients and the order you add them mattered. Then again, it would be greater than 2^16 if you had variations like "rum & coke" and "stiff rum & coke."

    10. Re:Combinations... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I agree with your basic argument, I must say you're off your rocker if you think there's something called "vodka" in a martini.

      And no, I don't care what James Bond calls it in the movies. That's not real life. :)

    11. Re:Combinations... by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      Sweet, I get to rant about two of my pasions: drink and math :)

      Your math is bunk. First of all, [yada yada yada]

      As others have indicated, you could simply have pointed out that 16^2 wasn't correct, the assertion I failed to make was the binary representation of 16 bits, or one equal measure of each, excepting the one with nothing (or No Tea, as HHGG might have it) One can't quite expect the bar-monkey to do everything equally, as some drinks require a certain temperature, ice, salt, fruits in various states, etc. Perhaps best would be for one to have more robotic apparati to accomplish more (yet able to clean itself, a self washing appliance...hmm) and remember a patrons preference. It could certainly go far.

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  40. I wonder by tmark · · Score: 1

    The bar holds 16 ingredients with which it can currently mix 188 drinks

    Is one of those ingredients Rohypnol ? Seems like geeks geeky enough to build something like this would need the machine to mix in some roofies if they hope to get any...

    1. Re:I wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now, that's the funniest and most evil thing I've heard all day...

  41. Text from main page by missing000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Bar Monkey
    Designed and Implemented by Steven Avery, Dustin Cooper, and Brad Greer
    of Harvey Mudd College

    The Bar Monkey, simply put, is a vending machine that serves mixed drinks. It houses 16 reservoirs which currently contain the following ingredients:

    * Vodka
    * Rum
    * Tequila
    * Whiskey
    * Gin
    * Amaretto
    * Triple Sec
    * Kahlua (or coffee liqueur)
    * Midori (or melon liqueur)
    * Orange Juice
    * Pineapple Juice
    * Cranberry Juice
    * Sour Mix
    * Cola*
    * Tonic*
    * Grenadine*

    *Ingredients currently under consideration for replacement

    Using these 16 ingredients, a total of 188 different drinks can be made, with the included ability to add ounce increments of each ingredient to customize (or create) a drink. The drink database is easy to update and nearly infinitely expandable.

    Customers sign up for a user account, for which they are assigned a unique, 5-digit, hexadecimal PIN. The account is debit-based, with each drink charging the customer at cost for the drink they are purchasing, automatically deducting from their account balance.

    All told, the project took about 3 months and $235 to complete. It is worth mentioning, however, that the LCD (the most expensive single component) was donated (approx. value: $100+), and various other components were otherwise acquired for free. The Bar Monkey was graciously funded by West Dorm HMC, even though we were overbudget by $85. Continual maintenance and occasional improvements are still always a concern.
    Some Pictures:

    Beta Testing
    Here's the cabinet when it was just a few shelves holding empty 2-liter bottles. One pump is hooked up to the computer for the purpose of taking time-constant data.

    Soldering I
    Having collected the time-constant data, Steve and Brad dutifully solder half-inch jumpers to each of the 4 leads on each of the 16 relays. Neither of us knows, to this day, why we did this outside.

    Soldering II
    Closeup of the meticulous but tedious jumper-soldering process.

    Bartop Under Construction
    The unfinished bartop, with various tools, containers, and other helpful things strewn across it in the midst of hard work.

    The Monkey's Central Nervous System
    The finished relay board, connected to the computer via parallel ports. The computer is running the Bar Monkey program, which displays the drink code prompt on the LCD.

    LCD and Keypad Closeup
    The above-mentioned drink prompt, but closer.

    Behind the Scenes of the Relay Board
    It looks really nice and neat on top, but the relay board was quite possibly the most difficult part of the entire project. What you see here are 16 relays, 16 diodes, 16 resistors, 16 transistors, and approximately 70 small segments of wire (not counting the 64 jumpers).

    Inside the Finished Product I (shown above)
    Pretty self-explanatory. The pumps and their respective reservoirs in place, the computer and relay board safely tucked on a shelf, the LCD behind a half-inch of acrylic, and all the tubes pulled through the PVC dispenser neck.

    Inside the Finished Product II
    Same as above, but from a different angle.

    Electronics Closeup
    The LCD, with extension cable to the keypad and serial cable to the computer, is at the top right. The bottom of the computer is unimpressive, though dominant in the frame, and the relay board is seen off to the side.

    Outside the Finished Product
    Here we see the Bar Monkey as customers see it, complete with Dustin's excellent stencil design and the nozzle, which is removable for cleaning.

    The Finished Bartop
    The top of the Bar Monkey, covered in rugged black plastic with a viewing window for the LCD.
    Finished LCD and Keypad Closeup
    It still looks pretty much the way it did when it was unfinished, only now it isn't just laying on the floor.

    Drink Confirmation
    The true beginning of the customer's experience with the Bar Monkey.

    Technical Specs:

    * Runs a program written in C by Dustin Cooper, in Linux.
    * Bartop is approximately four feet above the ground.
    * Holds approximately 1.75 liters of each ingredient.
    * Uses 16 windshield washer pumps run by a 12V adaptor. Pumps are connected in parallel and run sequentially by the program.
    * Dispenses an 8 oz. mixed drink in less than 10 seconds.
    * Currently has 30 registered user accounts, with expected rapid growth as people cease being broke.

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    1. Re:Text from main page by digerata · · Score: 2

      The question is, What did they use to interface the computer with the relays? Digital IO boards are usually relatively expensive. The 8bit boards, with 8 inputs and 8 outputs, I've seen in the past were around $400 a piece.

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    2. Re:Text from main page by dukerobillard · · Score: 1

      Some of the Matrix Orbital LCDs have "General Purpose Output" connections that you can use for this kind of thing.

    3. Re:Text from main page by Ewann · · Score: 1

      They said in the text above that they use the parallel port to interface with the relays. Transistors for level shifters, if required, are pretty straightforward.

    4. Re:Text from main page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck that, does it chill the juice??

    5. Re:Text from main page by nizo · · Score: 2
      The Bar Monkey
      Designed and Implemented by Steven Avery, Dustin Cooper, and Brad Greer
      of Harvey Mudd College

      Wait, this wasn't someone's graduate project was it???

    6. Re:Text from main page by DarkFyre · · Score: 1

      Cheap, USB I/O boards. There is currently a usermode Linux interface using libusb, and a kernel module is in the works.

      www.phidgets.com

    7. Re:Text from main page by The_Rook · · Score: 2

      only 188 drinks? with 16 ingredients shouldn't there be a lot more potential combinations?

      my boy's book of mathematics says that the number of permutations of distinguishable objects should be n!. but n! just gives the total number of permutations of 16 objects (abc is different from bac, which doesn't make sense when mixing drinks where order doesn't count) and doesn't take into account combinations of fewer than n objects.

      combinations count the number of instances where order is not important.

      C=n!/(n-r)!r! where r is the number of items in each combination. butn this still doesn't take into account that not all drinks use all 16 ingredients. so we need to sum up the combinations for the number of drink ingrdients r = 1 to 16.

      this should come to a total of 65,534 possible drinks, including 16 that are not mixed at all.

      --
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    8. Re:Text from main page by Red+Leader. · · Score: 1
      Uses 16 windshield washer pumps run by a 12V adaptor.
      And I presume these are food-safe winshield washer pumps? Who knows what's in those buggers to protect them from the washer fluid and extreme temps.
    9. Re:Text from main page by linzeal · · Score: 1

      It will be like drinking at a jr high school "parents out of town" party with the guy who says he knows how to mix drinks, great nostaligia vomit!

    10. Re:Text from main page by The_Rook · · Score: 2

      i'm sorry, i forgot to count the drink that uses all 16 ingrdients. that makes for 65,535 possible combinations. assuming that all ingredients are used in equal quantities, of course.

      --
      when religion is no longer the opiate of the masses, governments will resort to real opiates.
    11. Re:Text from main page by cmdr_beeftaco · · Score: 1

      maybe it will give you a buzz?

    12. Re:Text from main page by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I wondered about that. I suspect it would be OK, since screenwash additive is mostly ethanol. Now, if the plastic bodies were attacked by ethanol, this would mean the pumps wouldn't last long, and since the washer pumps and pipes *seriously* outlast the metal bodywork (I've dug scrap cars out of gravel pits where the only recognisable things left were the washer pipes, the wiring harness, and plastic trim) I don't think it's a problem. They are usually polypropylene or nylon, both generally food-safe (actual food-safe plastic is *guaranteed* to be food-safe, but is usually just the same as ordinary plastic).

      The pumps usually come in two types - an "impeller" pump like a washing machine pump, which is basically a little plastic fan inside a curved volute with an outlet. These are the ones that sit at the bottom of the washer bottle. The other kind have a squashy rubber impeller, that acts more like a compressor than a fan. I'd be a little worried about this shedding bits of rubber into the drinks. This appears to be the type of pump they're using. I'm sure it's probably just as safe as drinking in a pub, as long as you wash the drinks lines through regularly.

      Imagine draining the lines... You'd get about a pint of *everything* mixed together. Might be quite nice, but I doubt you'd be capable of telling anyone for quite some time after.

    13. Re:Text from main page by RollingThunder · · Score: 3, Informative

      They basically made their own IO board.

      The relays use the individual signal lines off the parallel cable to turn on and off, and relays are needed to ramp up to the 12v that the motors require.

      I did something similar to this in grade eight electronics, by hacking a radio shack armatron to connect to a TRS-80, by soldering in wires to the control panel surfaces, and relays to up the voltage from the parallel port. Worked great, I was able to make the robot pick up a box of screws, turn, and dump them all over.

      Timing was an issue, though, because the armatron did multiple things at a slower rate than if it was doing them seperately - presumably a current draw problem, which I wonder if these guys needed to address, or if they just have a powerful enough 12V supply that it can run all 16 at once without rate changes.

    14. Re:Text from main page by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2

      Would you like a gin and tonic, or a tonic and gin?

    15. Re:Text from main page by the+Dragonweaver · · Score: 1

      It is quite possible... I know that they have at least one class in manufacturing where the requirement is to make five of the same object at a saleable level. When I took the tour, such objects included knitted gloves and wrought iron wine racks (the student involved with that one had to make about a dozen more because the word got out and people started making orders-- I think he made a nifty profit) so the idea of a class that would allow such a project isn't too far out of line.

      Besides, this is one of those campuses that leaves its unicycles lying around... and some of them belong to the faculty...

      --
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    16. Re:Text from main page by KewlPC · · Score: 1

      Yes, but there are certain ingredients you don't want to mix.

      Plus, the guys who built the thing might have a combined knowledge of only 188 different kinds of drinks.

      It isn't like going to a party at the house of some junior high school student whose parents are out of town, and thinks all there is to being a bartender is breaking into his dad's liquor cabinet and randomly mixing different ingredients.

      Of those 16 ingredients, 188 different kinds of drinks sounds like a very reasonable number.

  42. Gorilla Sweat by rot26 · · Score: 1

    can it handle recipies calling for gorilla sweat?

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  43. YESSS!!! by Sun+Tzu · · Score: 2
    Now That's what I'm Talkin' about!

    Send us your Linux Sysadmin articles!

  44. Web interface by NeuroBoy · · Score: 1

    Heh, the site mentioned user accounts... I want a web interface so I could store my own preferences for drinks as well as add new ones to the database. That certainly could be added with not much additional cost.

  45. Harry Mudd College? by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 2

    Isn't that the academic institution where all the teachers are androids who wear a necklace with the course number they teach on it (and otherwise almost tend to look like each other)?

    And didn't I hear the headmaster android was named Stella?

    Or was all that something in a dream I had last night?

    1. Re:Harry Mudd College? by Skater · · Score: 1

      There was (originally) only one Stella.

      There was only one Norman though. I think that was his name.

      Done in by leaps of illogic. What a way to go...

      --RJ

    2. Re:Harry Mudd College? by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 2

      So it wasn't a dream? Thank heaven for that!

      Aren't all the female students there required to be on some kind of medication? Venus pills or something?

    3. Re:Harry Mudd College? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Aren't all the female students there required to be on some kind of medication? Venus pills or something?

      Only the ones diagnosed with low self-confidence; normally, the women don't need to be "pumped up by a drug".

    4. Re:Harry Mudd College? by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 2

      normally, the women don't need to be "pumped up by a drug"

      I won't argue that.

      But it's not whether or not they need the drug.

      It's whether or not Harry Mudd decides they should be taking it. And considering the type of male Harry Mudd is, I'm sure he wants his women as...., well, as "venus-y" as possible.

  46. The Obvious Question by limekiller4 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you beowulf them do you get an AA meeting?

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    My .02,
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  47. Spare time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just further proof that the current economic situation is under utilizing todays youth!

  48. Harry Mudd College by Slurms · · Score: 1

    Sadly, I'll admit that I first read "Harvey Mudd College" as "Harry Mudd College".
    Harry Mudd helps himself to a few drinks from an automated bartender in the Touble With Tribbles episode of Star Trek.
    Then I found that someone else thinks there should be a Harry Mudd College too. I won't post the URL so as not to /. an innocent bystander. Finding it will be an exercise for the student.

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    1. Re:Harry Mudd College by The_Rook · · Score: 2

      no, that was cyrano jones in "The Trouble With Tribbles."

      --
      when religion is no longer the opiate of the masses, governments will resort to real opiates.
  49. The Linux by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Funny

    1 can of Mountain Dew
    2 shots Finlandia vodka
    splash of triple-sec
    twist of lime
    straw for networking

    Serve with ice.

    Made this up as a joke at an ACM party back in college (we had a "Windows" too, but it was horrible and weak), but the Linux continues to be a favorite of mine.

    --
    Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
    1. Re:The Linux by asparagus · · Score: 2

      ...we had a "Windows" too, but it was horrible and weak...

      You were mixing it correctly. If it weren't for the millions of people who don't know you can order anything else, nobody'd buy it.

      (cue XP drink who claims they've fixed the formula)

      I know, it's a cheap shot...isn't that what we're about? /me finds bottle of Prestige...

    2. Re:The Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, sounds a lot like the Yellow #5 that I drank in college - fill a glass 1/3 with Cossack vodka (or some other monstrosity that costs about 10 bucks a handle), the rest of the way with Mountain Dew. Stirring is optional. Yum yum!

    3. Re:The Linux by Taos · · Score: 1

      No.. the Windows XP drink is the same as the regular Windows drink, except it has a splash of grenadine for color.

    4. Re:The Linux by TheConfusedOne · · Score: 1

      You forgot the other part.

      You have to call in to get a code to open the bottle and if you pour it into a glass you need to get another code to drink it from there.

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    5. Re:The Linux by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      Well, the glass is also different. It is a bit harder to crack now. But they always arrived chipped at the edges.

      --
      I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
    6. Re:The Linux by Pheersome · · Score: 1

      My proposal for "The Windows":
      1 can cheap american (sex-in-a-canoe) beer, for ubiquitousness and lack of redeeming qualities
      2 shots store-brand whiskey, for the bad taste it leaves in your mouth
      1 shot blue curacao, in honor of the BSOD

      I'm still working on "The OSX", "The BSD", and "The Solaris".

      --
      Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.
    7. Re:The Linux by Metrol · · Score: 2

      I'm still working on "The OSX", "The BSD", and "The Solaris".

      The BSD:
      80 year old Bourbon.
      Neat.

      No fluff. No sweetening. Just pure unadulterated whiskey straight from it's origins and matured to perfection.

      Enough of these in the evening will most certainly guarantee a visit by the little daemon fella himself in the morning.

      --
      The line must be drawn here. This far. No further.
    8. Re:The Linux by sharkey · · Score: 2
      Windows:
      • 1 oz. Jagermeister
      • 2 oz. Tequila (wells)
      • 1 oz. Triple Sec
      • 1 dirty jock strap
      • 6 tbsp sugar
      • Mt. Dew or Jolt
      • Highball (or other 8 oz.) glass
      • 1 sparkly foil parasol, the largest you can find
      • Glitter & glue
      • Ice - Cubed, not crushed
      Strain tequila through dirty jock into cocktail mixer to represent purity level of code. Add Jagermeister for the expected gag factor. Pour in Triple Sec to add that hint of fruit, but it's not Apple, uh-uh, no way. Add suger and shake violently.

      Fill glass about halfway with ice cubes, pur drink into glass. Top off with Mt. Dew.

      Use glitter to write START on sparkly parasol, place in glass. Serve.

      (Lip of glass may be garnished with aresenic to "protect the recipe")

      --

      --
      "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
  50. If they were smart... by Thud457 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    they'd make sure that they put the 'tip jar' server on a more robust machine!

    hmmmm.... I wonder if they're set up so I can use paypal to buy those guys a drink?

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  51. Text from the site by OctaneZ · · Score: 0, Redundant

    The Text from: http://www3.hmc.edu/~bgreer/barmonkey/ is it appears to be ebing served by a 486 as well.
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    The Bar Monkey
    Designed and Implemented by Steven Avery, Dustin Cooper, and Brad Greer
    of Harvey Mudd College

    The Bar Monkey, simply put, is a vending machine that serves mixed drinks. It houses 16 reservoirs which currently contain the following ingredients:

    * Vodka
    * Rum
    * Tequila
    * Whiskey
    * Gin
    * Amaretto
    * Triple Sec
    * Kahlua (or coffee liqueur)
    * Midori (or melon liqueur)
    * Orange Juice
    * Pineapple Juice
    * Cranberry Juice
    * Sour Mix
    * Cola*
    * Tonic*
    * Grenadine*

    *Ingredients currently under consideration for replacement

    Using these 16 ingredients, a total of 188 different drinks can be made, with the included ability to add ounce increments of each ingredient to customize (or create) a drink. The drink database is easy to update and nearly infinitely expandable.

    Customers sign up for a user account, for which they are assigned a unique, 5-digit, hexadecimal PIN. The account is debit-based, with each drink charging the customer at cost for the drink they are purchasing, automatically deducting from their account balance.

    All told, the project took about 3 months and $235 to complete. It is worth mentioning, however, that the LCD (the most expensive single component) was donated (approx. value: $100+), and various other components were otherwise acquired for free. The Bar Monkey was graciously funded by West Dorm HMC, even though we were overbudget by $85. Continual maintenance and occasional improvements are still always a concern.
    Some Pictures:

    Beta Testing
    Here's the cabinet when it was just a few shelves holding empty 2-liter bottles. One pump is hooked up to the computer for the purpose of taking time-constant data.

    Soldering I
    Having collected the time-constant data, Steve and Brad dutifully solder half-inch jumpers to each of the 4 leads on each of the 16 relays. Neither of us knows, to this day, why we did this outside.

    Soldering II
    Closeup of the meticulous but tedious jumper-soldering process.

    Bartop Under Construction
    The unfinished bartop, with various tools, containers, and other helpful things strewn across it in the midst of hard work.

    The Monkey's Central Nervous System
    The finished relay board, connected to the computer via parallel ports. The computer is running the Bar Monkey program, which displays the drink code prompt on the LCD.

    LCD and Keypad Closeup
    The above-mentioned drink prompt, but closer.

    Behind the Scenes of the Relay Board
    It looks really nice and neat on top, but the relay board was quite possibly the most difficult part of the entire project. What you see here are 16 relays, 16 diodes, 16 resistors, 16 transistors, and approximately 70 small segments of wire (not counting the 64 jumpers).

    Inside the Finished Product I (shown above)
    Pretty self-explanatory. The pumps and their respective reservoirs in place, the computer and relay board safely tucked on a shelf, the LCD behind a half-inch of acrylic, and all the tubes pulled through the PVC dispenser neck.

    Inside the Finished Product II
    Same as above, but from a different angle.

    Electronics Closeup
    The LCD, with extension cable to the keypad and serial cable to the computer, is at the top right. The bottom of the computer is unimpressive, though dominant in the frame, and the relay board is seen off to the side.

    Outside the Finished Product
    Here we see the Bar Monkey as customers see it, complete with Dustin's excellent stencil design and the nozzle, which is removable for cleaning.

    The Finished Bartop
    The top of the Bar Monkey, covered in rugged black plastic with a viewing window for the LCD.

    Finished LCD and Keypad Closeup
    It still looks pretty much the way it did when it was unfinished, only now it isn't just laying on the floor.

    Drink Confirmation
    The true beginning of the customer's experience with the Bar Monkey.

    Technical Specs:

    * Runs a program written in C by Dustin Cooper, in Linux.
    * Bartop is approximately four feet above the ground.
    * Holds approximately 1.75 liters of each ingredient.
    * Uses 16 windshield washer pumps run by a 12V adaptor. Pumps are connected in parallel and run sequentially by the program.
    * Dispenses an 8 oz. mixed drink in less than 10 seconds.
    * Currently has 30 registered user accounts, with expected rapid growth as people cease being broke.

  52. Hmm, SPAM risk.. by Boss,+Pointy+Haired · · Score: 4, Funny

    You have to sign-up for an AdultCheck(TM) ID before you can get an account.

  53. finally by andih8u · · Score: 2, Funny

    a sysadmin job you can really love

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  54. "I think you've had enou-nou-nou-nou-nough." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It won't gain widespread use as bartenders are legally obligated to discontinue serving drinks to a patron who is already intoxicated. And I wouldn't care to blow into a breathalyzer that who knows who has slobbered over already to enable dispensation. They won't be able to let this run unattended; they'll have to have a living, breathing, springing barmonkey as well.

    The checking of "adultivity" isn't as bad; it is more easily done in those states where your driver's license has a magnetic strip. Swipe your card for a drink. Nevermind that they made your driver's license number be the same as your social security number.

  55. YOU KILLED MABEL! by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Remember kids, prior to a thorough slashdotting, always remember to mount a scratch BARMONKEY!

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  56. nice guts, bad user interface by extra88 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My biggest beef with the interface is you have to enter a numeric code to pick a drink thus requiring some chart of all 188 drinks. Once you've partaken of the Monkey a few times, are you really going to be manage it? A-ha! The interface is intentially difficult to act as a throttle on consumption. Once you're sufficiently drunk, you can't manage to order another.

    For v.2 I'd use a bigger LCD and display actual drink names, possibly grouped hierarchically by type or primary ingredient. Drink numbers would remain to act as a shortcut for patrons who remember the number of a drink they order often. A touch screen would kick ass but I think they're less robust and more expensive.

    Since each patron has an account, I'd give it a "The Usual" button which could be set for each patron. Instead of a PIN, I'd also consider a card swipe. They're students so they could use their student ID as the card.

    1. Re:nice guts, bad user interface by Sh0t · · Score: 1

      haha great idea man especially for the student id. That'd be the best way to keep track :)

    2. Re:nice guts, bad user interface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      does it keep tabs of how much a person drinks and cuts them off after a limit?

    3. Re:nice guts, bad user interface by Cato+the+Elder · · Score: 1

      Sadly, Mudd doesn't have magnetic id cards. Besides, you can just set up a cron job to order the drinks for you.

    4. Re:nice guts, bad user interface by elixx · · Score: 1

      Quite frankly, once you're drunk, it don't much *matter* which drink you get...
      Hell, when you are trying to get drunk, it doesn't matter much, either...

      --
      No, Beowulf clusters can't imagine in Soviet Russia.
    5. Re:nice guts, bad user interface by mark_lybarger · · Score: 1

      cron pouring drinks. wow.

      on the topic of V.2, a blender would be really nice feature. the ability to make pina coladas, margaritas, etc.

      someone's got to have some VC laying around for delightfull ideas such as this ( please don't throw an e or i onto the name though. )

    6. Re:nice guts, bad user interface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      voice recognition...its all about the voice recognition
      mind you its again going to have to be modded for repeat users...perhaps a grunt and point recognition system would work best

    7. Re:nice guts, bad user interface by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      My cell phone has a nifty mode for entering words. You use the abc=1 def=2, etc. But, instead of hitting '2' twice for 'e', you just punch in the numbers. It shows potential words that match. T9 encoding is what sprint calls it anyway.

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    8. Re:nice guts, bad user interface by extra88 · · Score: 2

      Good idea! And with only 188 drinks, there wouldn't be too many options for each letter. the 2 line LCD would probably be sufficient for that.

    9. Re:nice guts, bad user interface by extra88 · · Score: 2

      You never know, you could get a Shirley Temple, minus the cherry.

      Maybe they should add "keypad mashing" detection to automaticallly dispense coffee.

    10. Re:nice guts, bad user interface by extra88 · · Score: 2

      How about barcodes? Barcodes are even easier, they plug into the PS/2 port and deliver the barcode just as a string of numbers as if they were typed on a keyboard.

    11. Re:nice guts, bad user interface by Cato+the+Elder · · Score: 1

      Wow, I've clearly been hitting the bottle too hard myself. Mudd does have magnetized ID cards, just not door readers. Sadly, I don't think the school would go for the idea of using flex money for drinks.

    12. Re:nice guts, bad user interface by AlistairGroves · · Score: 1

      And how many half drunk people can spell?

    13. Re:nice guts, bad user interface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rocket and Co. were considering using the id cards but then charging the (bar) account with them, since they can't directly access the flex database.
      Or so he said when drunk...

  57. This is what HMC is *really* known for... by chjones · · Score: 1

    Sure, there're other Mudd stories, but they are actually about engineering (ick). When I was at HMC, the motto was simple: no pressure to drink, only to drink more.

    Gentlemen, if you're reading, what dorm are you from? I'll avoid guessing to avoid insults...

    --

    Christian Jones
    Medicine. Mathematics. Mediocrity.

    1. Re:This is what HMC is *really* known for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey chris -

      They're Westies, of course.

      - jascha

    2. Re:This is what HMC is *really* known for... by Cato+the+Elder · · Score: 1

      I'm not one of them, but they're all from West.

      WIBSTR

    3. Re:This is what HMC is *really* known for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      WIBSTR

      damn straight!
    4. Re:This is what HMC is *really* known for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am so relieved! It's nice to know that some things haven't changed since I was sprung. Now why aren't you whippersnappers riding Unixcycles like God intended?

    5. Re:This is what HMC is *really* known for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a Harvey Mudd alum. The guys who did this are West dormers of course ;)

    6. Re:This is what HMC is *really* known for... by chjones · · Score: 1

      Hey, Jascha!

      Yeah, I assumed they were Westies, but didn't want to assume out loud just in case. Besides, this is more complicated than pinbot and the kegerator combined, so I thought it might be more of a Baja thing.

      --

      Christian Jones
      Medicine. Mathematics. Mediocrity.

    7. Re:This is what HMC is *really* known for... by Christov · · Score: 1

      I initially thought Baja too, but that bar was more into human interaction and good music. God knows what its like now.

      What do we want? APATHY!
      When do we want it? eh. whenever.

      -the other evil Chris

    8. Re:This is what HMC is *really* known for... by frantzdb · · Score: 2

      Still human interaction and good music, as well as good drinks. Come over and have a drink sometime.

      --Ben (current Baja member)

    9. Re:This is what HMC is *really* known for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uurrgghhh...cannot remember password.

      Oh well. The project was sponsored by West, so I assume these are Westies.

      WIBSTR

  58. Problem by Sh0t · · Score: 2, Funny

    Only problem of course is soon coke will be sending out viruses that turn all the pepsi formulas into shit so people migrate away from pepsi. Or something like that...

    1. Re:Problem by Spunk · · Score: 1

      Didn't they already do that?

      zing!

  59. Obligatory slashdotting joke by counterfeitfake · · Score: 1

    Looks like they should have spent some time building a web monkey to go along with it.

  60. Three words by lildogie · · Score: 1

    Shaken, not stirred.

  61. I'm not satisfied by crawdaddy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Until we figure out a way to make a distributed system of these so that my Bar-Monkey can use someone else's liquor, I'm not interested.

  62. Caterers Dream by borkus · · Score: 1

    If you go to any catered function - wedding reception, office party, etc - the bartender is always a backlog. With one of these, you could spray out mixed drinks without having to have a trained bartender. All they have to do is put ice in the glass, punch up the recipe and shoot. If they make the dispenser/automated unit portable, they chould have a viable commercial product.

    This wouldn't be so great for a conventional bar - it doesn't do blender drinks and it won't make a martini - though I do find the idea of a Linux powered olive dispenser intriguing..hmmmm.

  63. As usual... slashdotted by nufsaid · · Score: 1

    Looks like we spanked that monkey

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  64. Liquor, Liquor, everywhere by wizarddc · · Score: 3, Interesting
    And not a drop (of water) to drink. GUess they like their drinks pretty strong at Harvey Mudd.


    The Bar Monkey, simply put, is a vending machine that serves mixed drinks. It houses 16 reservoirs which currently contain the following ingredients:

    * Vodka
    * Rum
    * Tequila
    * Whiskey
    * Gin
    * Amaretto
    * Triple Sec
    * Kahlua (or coffee liqueur)
    * Midori (or melon liqueur)
    * Orange Juice
    * Pineapple Juice
    * Cranberry Juice
    * Sour Mix
    * Cola*
    * Tonic*
    * Grenadine*
    --
    Th
    1. Re:Liquor, Liquor, everywhere by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2


      Uh? Tonic is water...

      In fact 7 of the 16 ingredients are non-alcoholic. Care for a Shirley Temple?

    2. Re:Liquor, Liquor, everywhere by cosyne · · Score: 2

      Don't worry, there's a drinking fountain in the dorm lounge. And a keggerator. And there's a driking fountain upstairs too, which was apparently plubmed for beer at some point.
      But yeah, some mudders do drink a lot.

  65. finally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... The tri-lambs and the Alpha Betas can live together in harmony!

  66. My Ideal Bar Monkey.... by Homebrewed · · Score: 1

    1 bottle Jamesons
    1 bottle George Dickel
    1 bottle Glenlivet
    1 bottle Sauza Hornitas

    1 shot glass

    What else do you need?

  67. Since it runs Linux... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..does that mean the drinks are "Free?"

    1. Re:Since it runs Linux... by word+munger · · Score: 1

      Free as in "free speech" or free as in "free beer, whiskey, vodka, grenadine, etc."?

    2. Re:Since it runs Linux... by Captain+Large+Face · · Score: 2

      Harvey Mudd College != Club Tropicana

  68. (yet another) But can it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It dispenses liquor, but can it open up a can of woop-ass?

    I mean, really, every bartender has to do this now and again...

  69. shallow bar-monkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the real question is: can this bar-monkey spot the prettiest girl at the bar and offer her drinks? ...... now that's a true use for science.

  70. This reminds me... by CoderByBirth · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...of a machine at my university:
    "The Stochastic Bartender"
    Basically, it's a modified slotmachine, where instead of the three cherries, bananas and apples, there is a type of hard liquor, one liqueur and one mixer.

    Drinks from The Stochastic Bartender cost half, on one condition - you only get to pull that lever once.

    I'm telling you - that devil piece of machinery can come up with some truly repulsive shit:
    4cl Bäska Droppar ("Bitter Drops", Swedish vodka spiced with wormwood, this stuff makes you feel like a man)
    Blue Curacao
    Grapefruite juice

  71. Windshield washer pumps! by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This guy is using windshield washer pumps to move the fluids.

    YUCK!

    Sorry, I'd rather use something less likely to contaminate the fluid I was moving.

    A peristaltic pump would be far better - you get volumetric measuring free, and you can use medical grade non-contaminating tubing.

    1. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by cybermace5 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah, peri pumps are great. We have hundreds of impeller pumps to recirculate ink on our presses, and the are always dying, going off balance, or developing other problems. Plus, they have to be meticulously cleaned with every ink color change. We're moving to peri pumps exclusively in the next few months...just rinse out or throw away the tube, snap in, and go.

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    2. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by nolife · · Score: 1

      Great suggestion, that pump costs $100 more then what these guys spent on the entire project..

      --
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    3. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by wowbagger · · Score: 1, Flamebait


      Of course, we should save money every place possible.

      So, instead of using real booze, let's use washer fluid - it's much cheaper. So what if you get sick? It was cheaper.

      And we can use lead solder on copper pipe - that's cheaper, too.

      </sarcasm>

      Windshield pumps can leech all sorts of nasty stuff into the drinks - I would think that it would make the booze taste terrible (I wouldn't know, as I think ALL booze tastes terrible), and I know that some of the stuff that leeches would be toxic.

      Besides, truly ingenious people could MAKE a peristaltic pump themselves.

      There's a time to scrimp, and a time to spend.

    4. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by lobsterGun · · Score: 1

      They didnt use one windshield washer pump. they used 16 - one for each bottle. I don't think they need to worry about cross contamination.

      Where exactly are these contaminants supposed to leech in from?

    5. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by Juggle · · Score: 3, Interesting

      From the materials in the pump - windshield washer pumps are not food-safe and are not a very good choice for this project.

      That was one of my big questions when I first read this - how do they transfer the liquids.

      Why even bother with pumps in the first place. Why not use gravity and solenoids food grade solenoids are a LOT cheaper than food grade pumps and you can get them for about $10 each at most RV dealers - sometimes less if you buy in bulk. Then just use a PWM setup like a fuel injector to measure out the amounts of each liquid.

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    6. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by CDS · · Score: 3, Funny

      When I was in college, a friend related a story from when he was in high school. He thoroughly cleaned out his windshield washer system (pump, reservoir, tubing, etc) and ran the tubing to a nozzle under the dash. He then filled the reservoir with alcohol , and was able to make his own mixed drinks while road-tripping. He even hooked up a reversible pump so if he ever got pulled over, he could just suck the drink back into the reservoir!

      (yeah I know, DISGUSTING. and STUPID too!! but he was in high school, so he was young & stupid by definition :) )

      Anyway, his "system" worked great until one day when his dad used the car & the windshield was dirty.......

    7. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by labratuk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah I think those would be great. Unfortunately the ones you were pointing to were specialised and very expensive. I think a good alternative would be to go to your local model shop and buy a fuel pump. These are used for getting the fuel into model planes etc. These are almost always peristaltic pumps. You can either get a ready motorised one or get a manual one and hook up a stepper motor to it for precision.

      As long as they've never been used to pump fuel they should be fine, plus as they are designed to pump fuels the alchohol should not make it perish or degrade.

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    8. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by von+Konrad · · Score: 1

      It would be difficult to accurately measure the flow rate unless you new the level of the fluid in the container. Remeber, height determines pressure in this case.

      A better solution might be to use a sealed container and an air pump. The air pressure would push the fluid through the exit tube. Fish tank air pumps shouldn't pollute the air. Since the system could always be pressurized, they could still use their predetermined timing setup.

    9. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by Brownstar · · Score: 2

      Because that only works well for non-carbonated beverages.

      In college my friends and I tried making a drink maker similar to the that, but the pressure build up from the carbonation would leak out all of the pop. And we didn't really want to spend the money on fancy pumps that could handle the pressure.

    10. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by nolife · · Score: 1

      Besides, truly ingenious people could MAKE a peristaltic pump themselves.

      So your not the least bit impressed in their project but had they made a small pump that pushed fliud through a flexible tube you would consider it ingenoius?

      If they got their pumps from old cars in the junk yard, I'd be worried.. Now if the washer pumps are similar to a wagner power sprayer with a spring and magnet where the pumped fliud is the coolant and lubricant for the pump, I hate to agree with you (blah!) but that MIGHT be a little unclean..

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    11. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by von+Konrad · · Score: 1

      Carbonated drinks would still require the standard restaurant setup with the separate water, syrup, and CO2.

      Of course it wouldn't be impossible to make something that could vampire-suck an aluminum soda can. Any left overs in the can could be discarded if not used by X time, then on to the next can.

    12. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by wowbagger · · Score: 2

      I was more linking to provide people with the idea of what a peristaltic pump was, rather than suggesting that the items in that search should have been used.

    13. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Informative

      I never said what they did was not ingenious.

      Strapping a rocket to your back while wearing skis might also be considered ingenious.

      That does NOT mean that it is not DANGEROUS.

      Using a non-food grade pump to handle things you plan on ingesting is a bad idea. When the substance you plan on moving consists of one of the world's premire polar solvent mixes, it become downright DANGEROUS.

      Sorry, but I used to design industrial robotics for a living - perhaps I am just a bit harder to impress than most.

    14. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by Ouroboro · · Score: 2

      A peristaltic pump would be far better...

      Except that the peristaltic pump cost way more than a windshield washer pump. I didn't do a lot of comparison shopping, but just one of the peristaltic pumps looks like it costs more than the entire rest of the project.

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    15. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by sonya_carr · · Score: 1

      Strapping a rocket to your back while wearing skis is a favorite pastime of kids living in this dorm... as is making a sled out of a couch on skis (broken arm), burning said couch afterward (toxic fumes), incinerating aerosol cans marked "do not incinerate" (actually, that was cool and no one got hurt), playing baseball with flaming dinner rolls soaked in lighter fluid (minor burns, much lost hair), trying to eat a five-pound bag of sugar in 30 min (a long future of diabetes), and making napalm at home the fun and easy way (hazmat team, helicopters, TV reporters...) You're beginning to get the picture, I think.

    16. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by nursedave · · Score: 1

      I know a guy who, during university, owned an early 70's model VW Beetle. Apparently, at that time, they had a little tap that screwed onto the spare to power the windshield wiper fluid squirty thing. So he and his buddies put a keg up front and hooked into the spare; the tap came out the dash, and they could just stick the nozzle in their mouthes and fill up as needed while driving about. I'd think that cheap (college afordable) beer mixed with old tire and gas station compressor air would be unpalatable, but its a neat story.

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      The Democratic Party: We've been pussies since 1968!

    17. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by rentedflowers · · Score: 1

      Thank you for posting this! They don't mention what kind of tubing they use -- do you think it's vinyl? It seems to me that it's either going to be vinyl, or aquarium tubing. I hope it's not vinyl, because that would be about as toxic as you could get, to the point that the EU was thinking about banning vinyl a few years ago. I do biotech instrumentation, where fluids purity is pretty important. Are we the only people here who have ever heard of 'food-grade components' or 'plasticizer leaching'?

    18. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by rentedflowers · · Score: 1

      I like the compressed air solution, but have you ever watched a bartender? I'm not really sure what the innards of one of those bar nozzles looks like, but in order to measure out the liquor, you invert the bottle over the glass, and count out time. That's a gravity feed, no doubt about it. Perhaps this explains the great variability in drink quality.

    19. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      If they got their pumps from old cars in the junk yard, I'd be worried.

      Hell no! But there wasn't much joy around the campus parking lot the next time it rained I'll tell you...

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    20. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by runswithd6s · · Score: 2
      I can't imagine a peristaltic pump would be difficult to build. Take a look at this animation to see what I mean. It's simply an electric motor with three or four arms to which rollers are attached. The rollers pinch the tubing and squeeze it along it's track until it lifts off the tube on the other side. In the mean time, another roller contacts the tube on the far side and continues the sequence. Simple, clean, and cheap. An added advantage is that you can't burn out these pumps when no fluid is present...

      Pumps are only expensive because the include nice housings, some logic circuits to control the motors, and include service warranties. It shouldn't be too hard to construct your own parastolic pump with some very simple components: a 12 volt battery, a small electric motor ($3.50 at radio shack, though you *may* want a little more power), some ABC plastic for the disk that holds the rollers, the rollers themselves, tubing, screws, and a piece of wood to carve the 1/3rd circle track. If they're already wiring up relays for the controller board, purchase electronic solenoid valves for fluid control. The system is less complicated, fewer moving parts, and more robust.

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    21. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Everytime someone mentions peristaltic pumps, I get this image of the BarMonkey emitting the most disgusting stomach rumbles before delivering the drink. :^P

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    22. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by F00F · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There's a good story about the windshield washer pumps that I haven't seem anybody tell yet. Before I tell it, though, I need to say a few quick things. The first is that I've spent a fair amount of time with Harvey Mudd students recently, and they tend to be seriously gifted individuals. I've also spent time with M.I.T., CalTech, and Rose Hulman students (to name a few), and I have to say that the Mudders are seriously underrated on the global undergraduate stage. These folks are personable, inquisitive, dedicated, and enormously talented. And funny. Really funny.

      Forgive me if I'm telling it wrong, this is second- and third-hand information.

      Not long after the bar monkey became operational, it was being used over the course of an evening to serve cocktails in the lounge. When the students retired for the evening, they deactivated the monkey and left to finish their 'stems homework and whatnot. Later that night, there was a localized power disruption, though I don't know its duration. What I do know is that the monkey wasn't on a UPS of any sort (and for $200, can you really blame them?) and lost power.

      When power was restored, and the machine booted back into linux, the parallel port data bits were apparently all lifted high at some point in the boot process. This, unfortunately, meant that all of the liquor-dispensing windshield wiper pumps were briefly activated. Now, as someone who has hooked a large inductive load to a DC power supply can attest, the momentary current draw of having all of these pumps simultaneously active was not negligible. In fact, it overwhelmed the power supply, but only after a shot of Bottle 1 + Bottle 2 had been dispensed onto the floor. Vodka and rum, I believe it was.

      Now, when the power supply sensed its overcurrent condition (I believe this is how the story goes), it did the noble thing and: rebooted. You can see where this is going: lather, rinse, repeat. The rebooting webmonkey once again lifted its data pins high, once again tripped the power supply overcurrent sensor, and once again rebooted the monkey (all the while dispensing yet another tasty shot of Bottle 1+Bottle 2 onto the floor).

      By the time someone came back to check on the monkey in the morning (a few hours later), the monkey had apparently drenched the floor in vodka, and was still rebooting. I'm told only bottles 1 and 2 were drained, and that the rest of the precious nectar was left intact inside the monkey.

      I'm convinced that nobody who witnessed the aftermath of this event will ever again neglect the power cycling / bootstrapping phase of an electronic device. I don't have a link to it, but I seem to remember AT&T having a similar problem with their switching software across the Atlantic seaboard, maybe six or seven years ago. You can draw your own conclusions, but if I were trying to hire a hardware engineer (not that there's really any other kind, you wimpy IT CS MIS MSCE slashdot derelicts), I'd give much greater weight to their ability to explain the projects they've completed (and the associated lessons learned), than I would to a 4.0 GPA or a Cisco certificate of trainability.

      Mudd grads (math, science, engineering, and other) are presently worth four times their weight in silver the first year after they graduate -- and that's a bargain. They should be worth at least one twenty-fifth their weight in rhodium.

    23. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by chinakow · · Score: 1

      If vinyl is soo bad then why are vinyl gloves given out to food service personel who handle food all day? If that is really a bad thing I am going to have to stop eating most of the food I consume.

    24. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by Black_Logic · · Score: 1


      That's a pretty funny story, I've got one similar, I used to have a lot of trouble getting up for school and regular alarms just wouldn't do it for me, So i stole the smoke alarm from the living area and hooked it up using the coffee how-to to my parallel port. But the dorms frequently had brown outs and I later got in trouble from the RA when my 'alarm-clock' made a big ruckus with-out someone to turn it off. (also for steeling the smoke-alarm) (I didn't get in trouble at first because i jumped up to turn it off in the morning)

      Side-note, it is near impossible to sleep through or ignore a smoke-alarm, which quelched my initial fear of desenitising myself to the noise and ignoring it in a real fire. :)

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    25. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by AlistairGroves · · Score: 1

      I AM a bartender. We use pourers that measure a predetermined amount, then stop with a click. The plain pourers we just judge by eye or using a measure, NOT by time.

    26. Re:Windshield washer pumps! by cybermace5 · · Score: 2

      Wasn't Harvey Mudd started by some individuals from Rose-Hulman? Mudd was on my short list, but I ended up going to Rose.

      Not that it's helped: managed to graduate after four years in 2002 and still looking. Nobody I've talked to believes the projects I've done were more important than a 4.0 GPA, or thinks I'm worth four times my weight in silver. Probably closer to low-grade steel, or plastic.

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  72. Slashdotted humor.. by weave · · Score: 1, Redundant
    The Bar-Monkey is a bar built around a 486 running linux

    Looks like that same 486 is running their web site! :-)

  73. Of course not by rblancarte · · Score: 3, Funny

    Haven't you heard the motto: Avoid Drinking and Driving - get drunk at home.

    RonB

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    1. Re:Of course not by k3v0 · · Score: 1

      dont drink and drive, you could spill your drink

    2. Re:Of course not by killthiskid · · Score: 2

      Why drink and drive when you could smoke and fly? =)

  74. Bar Monkey... by Maeryk · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Make me a Pangalactic Gargleblaster!"

    (bar Monkey: "Fizzle Pop POOF" halon goes off.. etc)

    Seriously.. all I need is one of these, a large funnel, my T-3 cranial and a really good thought-robotic typey arm program and life will be GRAND!

    Maeryk

    --
    Feminine Protection? What is that? A chartreuse flame thrower?
  75. Re:YESSS!!!...NINNLE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    About time something like this came along!

    Think it'll run Ninnle Linux?

  76. I want one! by davidmcn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is awesome! This has plausable commercial implications. How nice would it be to goto a bar and not have to worry about tipping someone, you just slide your credit card or insert your money and select your drink and you get it in 10 seconds. If I owned a bar I would consider it. After all, the money stuff would be pretty standard to implement, people have been doing stuff like that for years. So say you need 3 for your bar to operate efficiently and you would normally have 2 bartenders working. So you spend $500 a piece on the robots, and you normally pay 2 bartenders $5/hour+tips to work the bar and your bar is open from noon to 3 am each day. That accounts for $150/day in employee expenses.

    Now you implement the robots and your initial investment in them is $1500 and cost to run is literally nothing but electricity. In addition you would need 1 person there responsible for checking IDs and swapping out liquours, so that is say $100/day because you aren't giving the person tips anymore. You've saved yourself approximately $50/day in operating costs which means in 30 days the robots have paid for themselves and you see profits increase by $50/day which over the course of the year is $18,250. I'd say this is a bloody good idea if someone had the resources to market and mass produce this.

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    1. Re:I want one! by sward · · Score: 1

      1) Build a bar monkey
      2) ?
      3) Profit!

    2. Re:I want one! by isoteareth · · Score: 1

      That sounds just awful. Yay for less human interaction...

    3. Re:I want one! by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 2

      "How nice would it be to goto a bar and not have to worry about tipping someone"

      Dude, if you try to replace Sharon at nanny obriens with a fucking piece of electronic crap(granted, it nifty crap), you have to go through me to do it. ANd youll lose my business. SOme people happen to like human interaction when theyre having a beer.

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    4. Re:I want one! by isoteareth · · Score: 1

      I have the feeling the original, tech crazy poster doesn't quite "get" the idea of the bar.

    5. Re:I want one! by davidmcn · · Score: 1

      My thoughts don't necssarily pertain to your friendly neighborhood bar or pub. I enjoy going to my local bar and hanging out and shooting the shit with the bartender. The use of something like this would be more worthwhile in a club or big bar kind of setting with loud music where you are there to hang out and talk to the bartender. You are there to hang out with your friends and meet members of the opposite sex. I don't want to replace Sharon at Nanny Obriens at all, but if I go to a big bar or club I'd just as soon have a bot make my drinks because I'm not really paying attention to the bartender in that instance anyway.

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    6. Re:I want one! by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 3, Informative
      How nice would it be to goto a bar ... and select your drink and you get it in 10 seconds.

      However, this would be illegal or unwise in states where the bar owner is assumed to have liability for the actions of overly inebriated persons. Half of bartending school is how to recognize and handle customers who have had too much. Sad but true, in our litigious society.

      Not to mention that you're a cheap bastard for not wanting to tip :-).

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    7. Re:I want one! by cardshark2001 · · Score: 2


      However, this would be illegal or unwise in states where the bar owner is assumed to have liability for the actions of overly inebriated persons. Half of bartending school is how to recognize and handle customers who have had too much. Sad but true, in our litigious society.


      Errr, ever hear of a breathalizer? Add that to the barmonkey and you could ruin everybody's fun and fire your waitresses at the same time!

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    8. Re:I want one! by LeBain · · Score: 1

      I agree that this is a great idea and can be commercialized almost instantly, but for more than a self-service bar:

      * A few of these placed at restaurant/bar wait stations would speed up the waitron process - they no longer have to wait in the queue at the service bar.

      * Drinks will be of uniform quality (this is either a good or bad feature...)

      However, in London pubs, mixed drinks are metered out at 25cl per glass - no human judgement. This produces awful drinks! I fear an automated bartender would produce similarly awful drinks.

      The algorithm could be reduced to one PAL - that way you can dispense with the PHD sysadmin that would otherwise be required behind the bar!

      It's even configurable - the owner could specify what's in each slot, and the bar could determine which drinks it can make from those ingredients.

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    9. Re:I want one! by milkman_matt · · Score: 1
      Dude, if you try to replace Sharon at nanny obriens with a fucking piece of electronic crap(granted, it nifty crap), you have to go through me to do it. ANd youll lose my business. SOme people happen to like human interaction when theyre having a beer.

      Hell yeah! I couldn't agree with you more.. I think this machine would be cool for an in-home wet-bar type deal, in fact, i'd love to have one for that purpose, but you could NEVER replace my bartenders. I'm friends with the bartenders, managers, waitresses, patrons, everybody at the bars I go to, shit, that's why I go to the bar, i'd hate to have them all replaced by a stupid machine. Plus a machine won't hook you up with free drinks, stronger drinks, or anything like that because they like you, and it's probably not as cute as most of the bartenders I deal with.

      -matt

    10. Re:I want one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No no, the idea isn't a self-service bar, this machine would be used in addition to the regular bartender. Not sure why noone thought of it before, but since the biggest cost in a bar is (supposedly) alchohol that is given away--freebies to customers, drinks larger than they 'should be,' drinks for the bartender--this machine allows tighter control of the process. Hook it to the cash-register and all of a sudden you know where your alchohol went.

    11. Re:I want one! by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 3, Funny


      This still doesn't make sense, because even a green Linux admin is going to cost you more than 4 full-time bartenders easily.

      No machine can run without maintenance forever.

    12. Re:I want one! by cecil36 · · Score: 2

      Me too! As for a business model, I would also go after frat houses. For them, I would offer them the whole unit for $1000, and include one year of support from date of purchase. To keep the income flowing in, I would extend the support coverage for another year for $500. The frat only needs to worry about keeping the unit stocked and devising a system to set up the member accounts (like your annual dues includes $20 to spend).

    13. Re:I want one! by FleshMuppet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is awesome! This has plausable commercial implications. How nice would it be to goto a bar and not have to worry about tipping someone, you just slide your credit card or insert your money and select your drink and you get it in 10 seconds. If I owned a bar I would consider it.

      You obviously haven't spent enough time in a bar, and have never been a bartender. Bars don't sell liqour - they sell socialization. You already have a self-service bartender, it's called your home liqour cabinet. Most humans go out becuase they want to socialize. They like talking sports with Jeff behind the bar, or flirting with Suzy the cocktail waitress.

      Any bar using these would loose revenue quickly. I've been a bartender, and I can tell you this - a good tender, or a good staff can easily double or triple a bar's income. A bad one can drive customers away. A good bartender makes customers feel good... so they stay and spend more money. If that bartender makes a good enough impression, they might keep coming back and doing so on different nights. A bad bartender makes people go elsewhere. So you can have your robot bar, but I'll stick to my old-fashioned, human charisma driven service model. And come Friday night, I bet my bar will be the one that's packed.

    14. Re:I want one! by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Sell the service. Install monitors for level of alcohol. When it gets to a certain level, you replace the bottle. They pay for a 'monitoring fee' as well as the booze.

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    15. Re:I want one! by chworktap · · Score: 1

      okay, but then who would refill the machine? Presumably, if you don't trust the bartender, then the owner would refill it?

    16. Re:I want one! by voidware · · Score: 1

      but if you offer them free drinks...

      brandon

    17. Re:I want one! by Bald+Wookie · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but you wouldn't know where your customers went. The bar might lose fifty cents when Fred pours an extra shot of Bourbon in my 'double'. What they gain in goodwill and repeat business is far more valuable. I'm not a heavy drinker, but if you make me feel like I'm getting stiffed, I'm leaving and never coming back.

      Let's face it. I'm throwing down five bucks for a dollar's worth of alcohol. If a little conversation and someone who remembers my face is too much to ask I'll give my 500% markup to someone who cares.

      Keep in mind, you don't even want exact inventory control in a bar. It maakes it harder to fudge the taxes.

  77. Vodka martini? by Mu*puppy · · Score: 1

    Only when I can get my Bond fix of 'shaken, not stirred,' would I drink from the bar monkey...

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    1. Re:Vodka martini? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'll pass on the vodka martini. and a true connoisseur would prefer his stirred.

  78. Never on Windows by fleener · · Score: 4, Funny

    Windows would incorporate Drinking Rights Management to ensure kiddies are only served root beer.

    Before each drink request, imbibers of legal age must slide their driver's license through a slot for verification, along with the card of a preauthorized designated driver (even for home use). Remember to make each successive drink request with the same glass you used for your first request, or nefarious activity will be suspected and the tap will shut down, forcing you to call Microsoft for a reactivation code.

    1. Re:Never on Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or not...

    2. Re:Never on Windows by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, and add to this that the drink master remembers your drinking habits including what drink, how many, what time of day, and what day of the week. As such, if the drink master feels you are overdrinking it will send your address to counselors and doctors who will then contact you by unsolicited mail. The drink master will also make your drinking habits available to your employer for a price.

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    3. Re:Never on Windows by TarPitt · · Score: 1

      And in Utah, there would be a sensor under your drink napkin so that it would not serve another drink when you have not finished your previous one.

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  79. WMP9 Post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  80. Nice by ruiner13 · · Score: 2

    Now I have bar envy. And I'm thirsty. Damn you!

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  81. Re:YESSS!!!...NINNLE! by Znonymous+Coward · · Score: 2

    What the hell is Ninnle anyway?

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  82. Punch the Monkey by RetroGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

    So now you can punch the monkey, and it gives you a drink.

    And if you are two drunk to punch the monkey, you need to go home.....

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    1. Re:Punch the Monkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      'And if you are two drunk to punch the monkey, you need to go home.....'

      i assume you're on your way home now?

  83. My Question is.. by warpSpeed · · Score: 5, Funny
    Is it scalable, can it handle 32 bottle processing?

    Can it handle a Big Gulp Gin and Tonic?

    1. Re:My Question is.. by counterfeitfake · · Score: 1

      Can YOU handle a Big Gulp Gin and Tonic?!

    2. Re:My Question is.. by warpSpeed · · Score: 2
      Can YOU handle a Big Gulp Gin and Tonic?!

      Oh yeah! But when not drinking G&Ts I'll take a homebrew.

  84. make me a drink, Audrey by redherring22 · · Score: 1

    remember when everyone bought the 3com Audrey for $100? That could make a really cool front-end for this bar (w/ a touch screen, nonetheless!) if someone was embeded-QNX-savvy enough to get this sucker to control drink-measuring hardware :)

    1. Re:make me a drink, Audrey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmm good point. i have a semi-dead one around i might salvage; even if i don't know any QNX i am sure it could access a web page that could in turn drive a x86!

  85. How about the code and the parts list? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Hey, isn't it required that if its writen for Linux and posted on /. that they post the freaking source code. This page is devoid of any meaningful details, how about supplying some for those of us who'd like to give a go at building our own.

    1. Re:How about the code and the parts list? by holt · · Score: 1

      If you look at his "The Score" page from his site (not on the bar monkey page) you'll notice that he's been looking into getting a patent on something. I wonder if that's the reason there's no source or detailed info.

    2. Re:How about the code and the parts list? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He can't because he's a university student. Anything you create while you're at almost any college in the US is property of the college. You have to get a written release from the college to get the rights to it.

      Quit being greedy and tell us how to build one. Otherwise this is really just an ad for your fucking product.

      Not having a patent doesn't mean you can build and market them yourself.

    3. Re:How about the code and the parts list? by theedge318 · · Score: 1

      Not true at all ... your rights decrease as you progress. Projects for a done for classes are your property. Research projects funded by the school are shared property. And as a faculty member, the school owns your work, unless they determine that they don't want it. So as research faculty if you have something really cool you want to patent, you have to give the school the option to patent it first. If they pass on that right, there is some standard paperwork you can fill out, to allow you to proceed on the patent as an individual, and retain sole ownership.

      This project is slightly different because the dormitory paid for it ... so it depends on the employment status. If they were hired as an independent contractor (which I doubt was discussed) the IP (Intellectual Property) is theirs. Otherwise the IP is shared with the dormitory, as in the case of any VC (Venture Capital) operation.

      Besides this product is unpatentable ... as we have already seen there is plenty of evidence for "prior art". Many casinos already have devices just like this, so they can tightly control their bottom line.

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  86. South Park reference by zephc · · Score: 2

    Yeah, gotta get Hooked on Monkey-Linux?

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    "I would say that 99 per cent of what my father has written about his own life is false." - L. Ron Hubbard Jr.
  87. You insensitive clod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My 486 doesn't work any more, how am I meant to find this kind of processing power to run my own monkey?

  88. Thanks Slashdot! by fobbman · · Score: 2

    "The Bar-Monkey is a bar built around a 486 running linux..."

    Thanks, guys! When the lights were down it looked a LOT better than that.

    Sucks when I get home with a coyote-ugly PC.

  89. Harcort Mudd didn't sell tribbles... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While Harcort Mudd made Capt. Kirk's life miserable in many other ways, he never peddled tribbles. Cyrano Jones was the tribble salesman. http://www.startrek.com/library/tos_episodes/episo des_tos_detail_68744.asp

    1. Re:Harcort Mudd didn't sell tribbles... by Slurms · · Score: 1

      Oh yea...Heh. Maybe I shouldn't be ready /. at work...Thanks.
      I always confused those too anyway.
      Funny that I looked up Harry Mudd College but didn't track down the ST episode, isn't it?

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  90. Oh, I get it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like a device driver. That's funny, even if it did take my slow ass 5 minutes to get it.

  91. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Informative

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  92. A man walks into a bar... by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 5, Funny

    and brings a monkey along with him. The bartender notices the monkey stealing martini olives, sticking them up his butt and then eating them.

    The bartender asks the man "What the hell is wrong with your monkey?"

    To which the man replies "He ate a cue-ball last week. Now he measures everything before he eats it."

  93. now instead of fufu drinks by miyako · · Score: 1

    ....we can have foo foo drinks.

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  94. the down sides by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    "Eeew! This drink tastes like penguin piss!"

  95. Priot Art by Mongo222 · · Score: 1

    These things have been around for ever, the only thing that makes the Bar Monkey special is that it was hacked together from stuff the kids had around for a great price. http://www.wunderbar.com/products/liqcontrol.htm

    1. Re:Priot Art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good, now we just have to wait till they figure out they aren't going to make any money with it.

  96. $235? Bull-crap!!! by Misha · · Score: 2

    it probably cost that three times that much in liquor over the three months...

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  97. what will all the students do ... by Spellbinder · · Score: 0

    to get money if this is used in all bars????????

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    stop supporting microsoft with pirating their software!!!!!
  98. Slightly OT by BitHive · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've always wanted to do little projects like this, where a computer controls various relays. The only thing I don't know how to do is get the computer to control them! Are there inexpensive kits that connect to, say, a serial port? I'd love it if anyone who has experience with similar things can tell me how to do this cheaply.

    1. Re:Slightly OT by cosyne · · Score: 5, Informative

      I've always wanted to do little projects like this, where a computer controls various relays. The only thing I don't know how to do is get the computer to control them! Are there inexpensive kits that connect to, say, a serial port? I'd love it if anyone who has experience with similar things can tell me how to do this cheaply.

      There's a book called Controlling the world through your PC, or something like that. It's old and comes with a floppy disk, but i recall it having schematics for hooking things up to the paralle port. You can wire it directly but you generally want opto-isolators so you can't fry your computer. You can also get a wide array of stuff to interface to the serial port. I like the motoralla 68hc11 microcontroller. It does cool shit (we actually used one in a previous barmonkey prototype), and the evaluation board with chip runs around $100. Try http://www.axman.com/
      Also, the amazon page for the above book:
      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail /-/1878 707159/103-7968018-2248661?vi=glance
      The "customers who bought this also bought this" section may be helpful

    2. Re:Slightly OT by GabrielStrange · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure how close this is to what you have in mind, but what about Lego Mindstorms? Makes it very easy to build all sorts of computer controlled robots. And I'm fairly sure there's several packages available to control them from Linux.

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    3. Re:Slightly OT by Black_Logic · · Score: 2, Informative

      Much better would be to take a look at
      the coffe-howto on linux.org. Using
      the simple diagram I was able to turn
      off and on all the appliances in my home.

      May or may not be safe if you're not an
      electrician. Just go to home depot and
      get a couple electrical sockets and mounts
      then wire the relay(always open) to the
      sockets. Not to difficult, relays are the
      most expensive part, 20 a pop at radio
      shack, but 3 - 10 bucks at one of those mom
      and pop electrical parts resellers.

      Wasn't a difficult project, but don't forget
      the diode between your relay and parallel port.
      It'll work without it but there's a small chance
      of making your mobo become black and smelly
      (parts of it anyways)

      a quick google found the link...
      http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Coffee-2.h tml

      Good luck, be safe!

      --
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    4. Re:Slightly OT by dbitter1 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Automation Direct makes some cheap PLC's (for some values of cheap; relative to the big industry giants- I think they start ~$100 + $100 for the control software)

      I have written several conveyor control projects with them- you can do serial port interface using a couple different PLC protocols. Unlike building your own, they come pre-wired with manly relays for both AC (for line voltage) and DC (for motors, etc) contacts and relays (input switches and output for motors, etc).

      Programming isn't really hard if you have had an electric primer- you can do simple on/off or write really complicated logic using "virtual" interlocking relays, etc.

      If you have the money and some time, a PLC will produce a much better project IMHO than hacking together circuit boards and optoisolators, etc.

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  99. An explanation by zozzi · · Score: 1
    At last, an explanation of all those:

    /* Drunk, fix later */

    comments!

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  100. Wasn't this invented by Spider Robinson by karlandtanya · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I think Jake Stonebender had one in his bar. Got it from Mike Callahan. They moved the bar after it got shut down by some a**hole in NY. Last I heard, it was in Key West. But it mostly made many wonderful permutations of irish coffee.

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  101. Linux-Based Bar-Monkey by kolombangara · · Score: 1

    I think the web-site is on the same 486, because it's not allowing us in. I won't even bother try during Happy Hour.

  102. that monkey ... by valmont · · Score: 2

    ... is guna change my life ... i can't wait to eat that monkey!

  103. Cost... by Mattsson · · Score: 1

    Does the cost include the ingredients? =)

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  104. Thank good it doesn't use voice recognition by bubblegoose · · Score: 5, Funny

    After about 3 drinks this machine will be useless. Who's going to remember a 5-digit, hex PIN.

    At least it's not voice recognition, then I'd be in BIG trouble.

    I'ddd liiikke an Aba..laamba Slaammmer plleease.

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    1. Re:Thank good it doesn't use voice recognition by eli173 · · Score: 1

      After about 3 drinks this machine will be useless. Who's going to remember a 5-digit, hex PIN.


      Nah, it's just the monkey's way of saying 'I think you've had enough for tonight.'
    2. Re:Thank good it doesn't use voice recognition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even if you can still say it right, don't you need Galliano for an Alabama Slammer?

    3. Re:Thank good it doesn't use voice recognition by sbillard · · Score: 0

      FACED
      as in sh*t faced

    4. Re:Thank good it doesn't use voice recognition by BlueGecko · · Score: 2
      I'ddd liiikke an Aba..laamba Slaammmer plleease.
      "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire
      Yet another example of wonderfully juxtaposed text and signature...
  105. Only 188 drinks? by ENOENT · · Score: 2

    How lame. With 16 ingredients, it ought to be able to make AT LEAST 65535 different drinks (using 0 or 1 oz. of each ingredient, dispensed into a 16 oz. glass, of course). 65536 if you count the Zen Enlightener (0 oz. of each ingredient). I'm sure that it can generate a name for each by mapping each binary drink recipe (0 vodka, 1 bourbon, 0 tequila, 1 grape soda, ...) to the corresponding integer, and assigning the drink the same name as the /. user with that ID. Sweet.

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    1. Re:Only 188 drinks? by Sabotage · · Score: 1

      Using your formula and my Slashdot UID, a "Sabotage" would be (assuming the list on the site in order from LSB to MSB):

      Vodka, Whiskey, Amaretto, Triple Sec, Kahlua, Midori, Orange Juice, Sour Mix, and Tonic.

      Sabotage indeed.

      I can't for sure say that would be disgusting, but it doesn't sound that great. I'll have to try it some day...

      Incidentally, an ENOENT would be:
      Vodka, Tequila, Whiskey, Amaretto, Triple Sec, Kahlua, OJ, Cola, and Tonic.. Quite similar to the Sabotage, actually :)

    2. Re:Only 188 drinks? by ENOENT · · Score: 1

      Those both look like drink recipes that I tried in college. I can't quite remember for sure, for some reason...

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    3. Re:Only 188 drinks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you a fan of orange juice and coke? Because the Bar-Monkey -could- make it.. We entered our 16 ingredients into webtender and idrink and created a list of actual drinks. Sorry nerds. :)

    4. Re:Only 188 drinks? by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2

      Number of drinks possible: 65535

      Number of drinks that taste like shit: Most likely 60,000+

      It's called quality control.

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    5. Re:Only 188 drinks? by BrainInAJar · · Score: 1

      Probably tried it.

      When you have like, an ounce of each drink left in your liquor cabinet (like the day after a party), you mix stuff like this to get you buzzed just one last time before your student loan runs out

  106. Microsoft has just announced... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Bar-Monkey .Net. In three years and two name changes, it will be able to do the same thing for $2,500, but it will require a Pentium 5 processor and 4 GB of RAM. It will have to be upgraded every three years.

    1. Re:Microsoft has just announced... by MasterSLATE · · Score: 1

      Apparently, it won't be called Bar-Monkey .Net cause the MS is dropping it. :P Good try though

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  107. Legs, here, wants a Manhattan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Soopoib! (looks weird spelled out)
    And a Flaming Meaux!

  108. Re:Combinations... your math is broken... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    16 ingredients leads to 65535 different drinks (not counting the 0-ingredient drink)

  109. new court excuse by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Honest, Your Honor, it was hackers who got me drunk. I only ordered orange juice."

    1. Re:new court excuse by mrsmalkav · · Score: 1

      oh come on. you know it's those *crackers* that are the malicious bunch. don't give the hackers a bad name, k?

      =P

    2. Re:new court excuse by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      oh come on. you know it's those *crackers* that are the malicious bunch. don't give the hackers a bad name, k?

      That is what a person says to the judge, it is not meant to quote me.

      Somebody should fix that terminology anyhow. If somebody is good at perl, call them a "wizard" or something, not a hacker nor cracker.

  110. but wait ... by blandthrax · · Score: 1

    So if I ask for a drink it doesn't know will it get mad and throw feces at me?

  111. Speed? by perfects · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > The Bar-Monkey is a bar built around a 486 running
    > linux that can dispense an 8 ounce mixed drink in
    > under 10 seconds

    I know, I know... If it used Windows it would take much longer.

    Doesn't the dispensing speed have a lot more to do with the pump than the OS or CPU? Why put that artificial slant on the opening paragraph?

    I mean, a GWBASIC program on a 4.77MHz XT running MS-DOS 2.0 could find an item in a list of 188 and send a control string to a pump in a very small fraction of a second.

    1. Re:Speed? by rhfrommn · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and your GWBASIC program on the MS-DOS 2.0 XT machine would be WAY faster than the same program running in Visual Basic on a 2GHZ Win XP box. :-)

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    2. Re:Speed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We could've done it with a microcontroller too. Linux is incredibly easy to develop for and 486's are cheap.. so why bother going to the extra effort?

    3. Re:Speed? by The+Bungi · · Score: 2
      Actually, VB executables run at the same speed in Windows than a C++ executable, provided they are compiled to native code instead of p-code. With the exception of some math-intensive stuff and very heavy string manipulation, there's practically no difference.

      Doesn't that just make you feel extremely dumb tho?

    4. Re:Speed? by perfects · · Score: 2

      > why bother going to the extra effort

      I guess I didn't make my point clear...

      A 486 running Linux is a fine choice. I was just questioning why the opening paragraph of the story made it sound like Linux was to be given credit for the speed of the pour. It seems the same as saying "my car, which uses a 486 chip and Linux in the dashboard, can go 100 miles an hour."

  112. Re:Mirror by pheesh · · Score: 1

    that didn't last very long. nice try though.

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  113. Serious add-on idea by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why not have this baby track it's users by sex and approximate weight?

    Since the user would get all their drinks from the machine, it could generate a report on what a user's BAC is likely to be (x number of drinks over y amount of time, adjusted to body weight). It could flash this info the the user everytime they buy a drink, so they know if they're going to be over the legal limit for driving or if they're getting close to dangerous levels. Hell, the barmonkey could even cut people off.

    "I'm sorry, the Monkey says you've had enough, dude."

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    1. Re:Serious add-on idea by blingitybling · · Score: 1

      Or it *possibly* could be hacked so that you could get the information on the girl you're hitting on, and get her *really* drunk.

    2. Re:Serious add-on idea by trentfoley · · Score: 4, Insightful
      ...the barmonkey could even cut people off.

      "I'm sorry, the Monkey says you've had enough, dude."

      This feature would dramatically reduce the MTBF of the unit. Clinical tests have shown that human bartenders, having arms -- and frequently firearms, can get away with this behavior. However, defenseless mechanical devices tend to be smashed in to little pieces.

    3. Re:Serious add-on idea by milkman_matt · · Score: 1
      Since the user would get all their drinks from the machine, it could generate a report on what a user's BAC is likely to be (x number of drinks over y amount of time, adjusted to body weight).

      Or you could just get a cheap digital breathalizer and leave it by the machine, then it could give an actual number instead of just suggesting you 'might' be over the limit.. then they'd know for sure! :)

      on a sidenote.. a digital breathalizer could also make for a fun drinking game :)

      -matt

    4. Re:Serious add-on idea by sonya_carr · · Score: 1

      Good idea, but at Mudd everyone lives on campus and no one drives. Besides, engineers tend to be professional drinkers, and if you can walk, you're not having a good time. Now, if it could tell you whether you've had too much to take your roommate home in a wheelbarrow, that could be useful!

    5. Re:Serious add-on idea by default+luser · · Score: 1

      This would be a liability risk.

      Yes, you could say the number is "for entertainment purposes only", but you see how far that got Miss Cleo? They're STILL suing her despite her ad's subtle disclaimers. If people start to believe your numbers, and they're off JUST ENOUGH to set off the breathalyzer, then you could be sued. If you thought the Irresponsible 90s were bad, just wait until you see what the 00s can dredge up.

      The machine should not intervene at all. This is why even automated bars still have bartenders, nothing can replace the human part of bartending. I don't see the 486 quelling discontent and cooling off fighting drunks.

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      And occasionally whores for Karma.

    6. Re:Serious add-on idea by Darnit · · Score: 1

      Or you could tie a decent breathalizer with some sort of serial port to it and compare the real number with the caculated number and get some really useful data. Put this at a number of parties and you could maybe even get sponsored by some govt program to offset the cost of the "study".

    7. Re:Serious add-on idea by linzeal · · Score: 1

      So arm it with a railgun, I mean linux has drivers for that right ?

    8. Re:Serious add-on idea by sean23007 · · Score: 2

      Yeah, have you ever tried to ask a slightly drunk woman her weight? If the Barmonkey had a face, it would get slapped rather often. Trust me...

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    9. Re:Serious add-on idea by The+Wing+Lover · · Score: 3, Funny
      Why not have this baby track it's users by sex and approximate weight?

      select name, phone from users where sex='F' and drunk=True and approximate_weight=Whatever you like

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    10. Re:Serious add-on idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a great idea... If someone is going to go past the legal limit they could be forced to drop their keys into the machine, and they don't get their keys back until they would be legal again, before they are allowed to get any more drinks.

    11. Re:Serious add-on idea by sbillard · · Score: 0
      Don't stop there.... If you've got the sex and approx weight, just add a web cam and have it ping you whenever a cute hottie is approaching shitfaced.

      Spacely's a jerk *hic* Spacely's a jerk *hic* Bottom of the 9th *hic* Bottom of the 9th

    12. Re:Serious add-on idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can, in multiscopic 3D tchni-overcolor ! Strapped and patched straight through to diverse limbic, visual, frontal, pre-frontal, cygulate - etc. - areas. Not to mention some irrelevant but fun spinal nodes !

      Get glasses and some neural patches !

    13. Re:Serious add-on idea by andbutso · · Score: 1

      It could also signal to the next user that a user of gender x with BAC of y got a drink here z minutes ago...
      Or is that unethical?

    14. Re:Serious add-on idea by joebok · · Score: 1

      Seems like it would be better to flash other users with the appropriate warnings/status:

      Alert: Female, 105lbs approaching extreme gullibility...

      Warning: Male, 320lbs getting surly...

    15. Re:Serious add-on idea by dickens · · Score: 1

      he did say "1/2 inch acrylic over the screen", though...

    16. Re:Serious add-on idea by trentfoley · · Score: 1

      ok, so the 1/2 inch acrylic over the screen would survive. But...

  114. I don't like it... by BoneFlower · · Score: 2

    Some of the charm of buying mixed drinks at a bar is figuring out which bars and bartenders mix them *just* right for your tastes. This is too artificial...

    1. Re:I don't like it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this would be nice for a pre-game (ie before the bars) get together...i personally like finding the hottest bartender and hitting on her...weekend before xmas in chi-town, i hit on this one bartender who had a bf(i asked the other bartender first)...anyways i asked her to leave work and go w/ me and my friends to the next bar and all she said was she would but she couldn't leave work...damn i was so close..

  115. Like the song says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I drink alone 'cos I prefer to be by myself!"

  116. Apologies in advance. by TheConfusedOne · · Score: 2, Funny

    Imagine a drunken guy named Beowulf lying face down by a cluster of these...

    --
    --- I wish I could hear the soundtrack to my life. That way I'd know when to duck.
  117. Backups by xrayspx · · Score: 2

    Always mount a scratch monkey

    Especially in cases where alcohol is involoved, don't want the natives getting restless when the Monkey dies.

  118. Hit The Bar Monkey! by SEWilco · · Score: 1
    Hit The Bar Monkey And Win A Blue Cow!

    Blue Cow

    • Pepsi Blue
    • Top with vanilla ice cream
    • Serve quickly with straw and long spoon.
  119. Google mirror (maybe)... by rrkennedy · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if this is it, but this is the only thing google found. The origional was already /.ed by the time I saw the post, so I can only guess that this is correct. Enjoy.

  120. Some Suggested Improvements by bluveinr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1. Random Mode:

    -Dispenses a random drink of the 188 to the indecisive party-goer.

    2. Random Mix Mode:

    -Randomly mixes the available ingredients for the adventurous party-goer

    3. Breathalyzer based cutoff

    - Prevents users from drinking when they reach a certain BAL. Or makes a fun game to see who can blow the highest.

    4. Built in Drinking Games

    - Electronic quarters, name that TV theme, etc. Penalty drinks automatically assessed.

    1. Re:Some Suggested Improvements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live in West Dorm at Harvey Mudd with these guys, and just to let you know, you can get a random drink by entering 999.

  121. Scratch Monkey by FunkyRat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ahh! I used up my mod points yesterday... Please someone mod the parent up -- this is really funny! And for those who don't get the reference...

    Long version: http://www.acme.com/jef/netgems/scratch_monkey.htm l
    Short version: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/scrat ch-monkey.html

    1. Re:Scratch Monkey by FunkyRat · · Score: 1

      Whoever rated my previous comment -1, Troll, can you please explain why? How is the above trolling? The commenter I was responding to made a truly humourous remark, and I pointed out that it should be modded up. Furthermore, since it referenced a great piece of computer folklore, I pointed out the origins of the joke for those who might not have encountered it before. Again, this is a troll how?

    2. Re:Scratch Monkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually ESR's description is much closer to the truth. As a 21 year DEC/COMPAQ/HP emp., I know this story to have been floated on the old VAXNOTES war-stories notesfile for years. Given the date (79-80) it's much more like to have been a PDP-11 as the VAXen were just coming out, and the PDP's had a long history in the control and data acqusition field. They used to have this standard list of things a customer was supposed to do prior to a PM (preventitive maint.). One of the check off items was to mount a scratch disk in the drive so that the tech could run diags. As I remember the old note, the monkey had electric brain implaints (part of a mapping study), and the diags more or less fried the monkey and about a year's worth of research.

      We knew the scratch monkey joke back when I supported RSTS and RT11

    3. Re:Scratch Monkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those PDP-11's were great for data acquisition and control. In high school I interned at this place called Astrocom where they designed headphones for the military. They had a great setup with an anechoic chamber in which giant speakers connected up to a D to A interface were connected to the PDP-11 which played digital recordings of different aircraft engines at varying distances. In the middle set this dummy head (named Oscar) that had holes drilled where its ears would be and microphones mounted. The signal from the mics was then ran through a A to D converter and then compared against the recording so as to measure how effectively the headphone set worn by Oscar attenuated air craft engine noise at different frequencies. What a great setup, and to think the thing still used core memory! This was the early 80s.

  122. mixing by Beckman · · Score: 1

    So how do the mix and chill the mixed drink? Does each user have to have their own cocktail shaker and ice?

  123. All it needs now is Clippy by Greedo · · Score: 5, Funny

    "It seems like you're trying to get hammered. Would you like to make your next drink a double?"

    --
    Tuus crepidae innexilis sunt.
    1. Re:All it needs now is Clippy by wizzy403 · · Score: 2

      Nonono! This is UNIX, it needs Vigor!!

      "I see you have placed your cup in insert mode. Remember, you need to press escape to enter more Vigor commands!"

    2. Re:All it needs now is Clippy by Misch · · Score: 2

      "I can't do that, Dave. You've had too many tonight."

      --

      --You will rephrase your request for me to go to hell. Goto statements are not acceptable programming constructs
    3. Re:All it needs now is Clippy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've just turned the BarMonkey into Talkie Toaster.

    4. Re:All it needs now is Clippy by cjsnell · · Score: 2

      I think it would go more like this...

      You: [key in the code for a screwdriver]

      Clippy: I see that you have dispensed orange juice. Would like Corn Flakes or Frosted Mini-Wheats to go with your breakfast.

      You: [curses]

  124. Black Death Vodka and Slash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Renamed: Blue (screen of) Death Vodka.
    Company spokesmodel Slash(from G'nR) changes his name to SlashDot.

  125. Re:YESSS!!!...NINNLE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't know about Ninnle?

    Crawl back under your rock!

  126. the other Harvey Mudd tradition... by Damek · · Score: 2

    Yeah, this sounds like a good idea, but it probably wouldn't mix too well with the other big Harvey Mudd College tradition. I mean, doesn't alcohol affect your sense of balance?

    1. Re:the other Harvey Mudd tradition... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At last check (circa 2000), there was just about zero overlap between the two traditions. The bar monkey lives in West Dorm, while the unicycling was more of an East/South thing. Unicyclists in West tend to get their heads shoved in toilets a lot.

    2. Re:the other Harvey Mudd tradition... by frantzdb · · Score: 2

      The combination works pretty well, actually It adds to the challenge ;-)

      And no, I was never whirled for unicycling while living at West Dorm.

      --Ben

    3. Re:the other Harvey Mudd tradition... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was never whirled for unicycling while living at West Dorm.

      bah. i'd heard West was getting soft...

    4. Re:the other Harvey Mudd tradition... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The evidence I have is that balance holds up far better on a uni than on foot. Unics who are drunk enough to not be able to walk a straight line can still ride without difficulty. Not sure why that is, but there you go.

      Matthew Morse, HMC '95
      Friends don't let friends Slashdot.
    5. Re:the other Harvey Mudd tradition... by mcmonkey · · Score: 2

      You could see a fair number of unis around West in my day (89/90), and like some other forms of life, I think the unicyclist used alcohol to facilitate reproduction.

      frosh: "Are you nuts?? That bike only has one wheel!"
      sadist: "Drink this." *hands frosh a bottle of mad dog*
      frosh: *slurring* "Two wheels are for wimps!"

      A freshman class president I was always a great believer in HMC tradition.

  127. Re:YESSS!!!...NINNLE! by Znonymous+Coward · · Score: 1

    Neither does Google so there.

    --

    Karma: The shiznight, mostly because I am the Drizzle.

  128. Re:Mirror by SlightlyMadman · · Score: 1

    Heh, methinks they were running the web server on the thing, too. I wonder if vodka can boil ...

    --

    Money I owe, money-iy-ay
  129. Actually, no... by sonya_carr · · Score: 1

    They're just harsh with the bandwidth limits for student pages... too many kids serving hundreds of gigs of anime porn. You'll notice www.hmc.edu is still up, as is the Open VMS server, the mail server, and my page, hosted on the same server as Brad's page. He's going to flip out when he finds out he got on slashdot.

  130. Better still... by pokeyburro · · Score: 5, Funny

    Port Eliza to it, and it'll listen to your problems as well.

    --
    Lately democracy seems to be based on the skybox, the Happy Meal box, the X-box, and the idiot box.
    1. Re:Better still... by CoolVibe · · Score: 2
      apt-get install emacs
      start emacs
      Meta-x-doctor

      there you go :)

    2. Re:Better still... by jiminim · · Score: 1

      Meta-x-doctor

      Wonderful! This replaces my last favorite emacs command of:
      Meta-x-spook

    3. Re:Better still... by Your+Pal+Dave · · Score: 1
      Or

      M-x psychoanalyze-pinhead

      for Zippy meets Eliza...

    4. Re:Better still... by WWWWolf · · Score: 1
      Port Eliza to it, and it'll listen to your problems as well.

      I was thinking more of Alicebot, because it could be made more bartender-like. And the obligatory "You want some more?" would be fairly easy in AIML...

    5. Re:Better still... by cosyne · · Score: 2

      Port Eliza to it, and it'll listen to your problems as well.
      On a hexadecimal keypad?
      "Please tell me more about a9 d0 67 3f 7d 83 c2 17"

  131. So this is why my internet connection is slow! by Eraser_ · · Score: 1

    I work down in the NOC of Claremont High School, and we get our internet connection through the Claremont Colleges (specifically HMC), and now i have a reasonable scapegoat for why my internet connection is slow today!

    (Ok so it's still lightning fast, but you know how the world works)

    My officemate/Sysadmin called down to HMC's noc to tell them about this, halfway through reading the blurb on the frontpage he was laughing and saying "this sounds like something we would do", at which point he got to the "Three Harvey Mudd College students..." at which point I could hear him laughing through the phone across the room! Much fun was had :)

  132. But how would you... by BethLogic · · Score: 1

    Flirt with the bartender to get free drinks? Or extra liquor in your drinks? You'd be forced to talk to the other patrons and that can just be scary sometimes.

  133. windshield pumps? common by SubtleNuance · · Score: 2

    Why use windshield pumps? alcohol might disagree w/ the gaskets within and dump some nasty shite in your glass - ick

    Why use pumps at all? Just use relays and let gravity do its work - pinch off tubes below the bottles.

    1. Re:windshield pumps? common by Blimey85 · · Score: 2

      washer fluid is mostly alcohol so I don't think it will do anything to the gaskets.

      --
      How is it that one careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start a campfire?
    2. Re:windshield pumps? common by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I go to Mudd and the reason (or at least one of them) why they or anyone does not let gravity is because the amount of liquid that would come out depends on how much there is in the container making it extremely difficult to make accurate measurements.

    3. Re:windshield pumps? common by MyComputerHatesme · · Score: 1

      I used gravity in my "trough". The way it measured was simple in principle and quite accurate but my system is quite large. I have tubes of different diameters that go straight up a wall. I have 4 values that open depending on the amount of the ingrediant that you want. The ingrediant is on a self above the bar and higher then the top of the tube. The liquid flows out of its container into the "measuring" tubes until it is level with the container. I open another set of values at the bottom of the tubes that dump the liquid into a glass. The error in my system is the height of the liquid in the container. I used containers that are long and wide and not very high. The hose I used is very small so my error is also very small. I am accurate to about 1/16 of an ounce. My gravity system may not be clean since I use values to determine which ingrediant is selected, the amount to pour and to dump the measuring tubes.

  134. Enough with the flaming Homers! by Ligur · · Score: 3, Funny

    What I wanna know is if it can make a pangalactic gargleblaster.

    --
    Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.
  135. Sewer pipe!!!!! by lindsayt · · Score: 2

    Also, I would point out that their dispenser is made out of Schedule 40 DWV PVC pipe - non-potable Drain, Waste, and Vent only pipe. They could have gotten potable CPVC pipe for just a few dollars more and then every drink wouldn't taste like chemicals.

    Of course, I guess that DWV PVC pipe is probably no worse than the windshield washer pumps...

    Still, I'd love to have their design and build one for my home bar.

    --
    I did not design this game/I did not name the stakes/I just happen to like apples/And I am not afraid of snakes-AniD
  136. Mixed drinks? by Leto2 · · Score: 2

    Real men drink beer. (real beer, not Bud of course).

    It comes 'premixed' in a bottle, very convenient...

    --
    <grub> Reading /. at -1 is like driving through Cracktown in a convertible that is stuck in 1st
  137. Re:$235? Bull-crap!!! by Darnit · · Score: 1

    It says on the website that they charge for drinks.

  138. I don't know... by VistaBoy · · Score: 2

    A geeky bar like this is probably a recipe for disaster...imagine a bunch of nerds getting piss-drunk and then betting each other to go to the Linux console and typing: su root rm -rf / There goes THAT idea...

  139. drinking game suggestion by The_Rook · · Score: 2

    combine the bar monkey with one of those simon games, you know, the one with the four big light up buttons that flash in a specific order and you have to match the order or you lose. only in the drinking game, every time you match the order you have to take a drink.

    or should it be anytime you miss the order you have to take a drink?

    --
    when religion is no longer the opiate of the masses, governments will resort to real opiates.
  140. This sort of thing isn't new by mhoover · · Score: 1

    Check out this fancy contraption. Still, PROPS to these guys!

    --
    The dingo ate my sig.
  141. Drinking Pics by barnaclebarnes · · Score: 2

    So lets get this straight....

    There are a bunch of pics of the machine being built and none of anyone getting drunk and throwing up?

    What do they do with it? Stand there, look at it and and tweak the kernel?

    Damn Geeks. ;-) /b

    --
    [Please type your sig here.]
  142. Open Source the code? by bdigit · · Score: 1

    It would be very cool if they could release the source code to this under the GPL so others could learn from this, perhaps even make their own to have in their own household bars.

  143. ha ha ha, M$ version is next. by twitter · · Score: 3, Funny
    Why not have this baby track it's users by sex and approximate weight? ... it could generate a report on what a user's BAC is likely to be ... Hell, the barmonkey could even cut people off.

    Hmmm, that's entirely up to the owner of the machine but your ideas will show up in the WindowBar that Bill Gates will make. It will be advertised for three years, on the market in five years, cost four times as much, give you advice you don't want, report all this info back to Microsoft, then cut you off when your license runs out. Have you seen the clippy animation where he flips you off and calls you a weenie? You will.

    --

    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

  144. tough to clean by cacheMan · · Score: 1

    This thing looks like a nightmare to clean. Having worked at enough food places, and having pledged a frat, I can tell you that cleaning up the beverages can be a sticky messy thing. You better hope nobody every knocks your monkey on the ground.

  145. overhead mount. by twitter · · Score: 2
    Gravity is clean. Mount the bottles overhead and make a crimped tube valve, much like old cafeteria milk dispensers, out of food grade flexible hosing. When you finish the bottle, put in a new piece of hose and all is sanitary and cheap. The challenge would be in measuring the fluid as it flows, but that sould be easy for these sleuths.

    An engineer on wiskey can be risky.

    --

    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

  146. Sounds like you have personal knowledge... by wowbagger · · Score: 1

    It sounds like you have first-hand knowledge of this bunch!

    What dismays me about things like this is that all too often alcohol seems to be a "stupidity enhancer" - I've seen people reach heights of stupidity that no amount of natural talent alone would be sufficent for - you have to have natural talent, work for years building that talent to its nadir, then chemically enhance it!

    I just hope these guys realize that a far safer way would be to use copper tubing (like you use to plumb a refrigerator with an ice maker), scavenge the valves from fridge's with ice through the door, and generally use food grade stuff.

    Thinking about it - I wonder how accurate their mixology is. I wouldn't exactly call a windshield washer pump a precise, repeatable delivery system. I'm assuming that they probably don't have any way to measure the volume delivered - just turn the pump on for X ms and hope for the best.

    OK, so metrology is part of my work, but I cannot feel warm and fuzzy about such an uncalibrated solution (both meanings intended.)

  147. $235? no way. by dnoyeb · · Score: 2

    I am assuming they did not factor in man hours. When one starts to value his time, he quickly realizes the true cost of these things.

    1. Re:$235? no way. by madfgurtbn · · Score: 1

      When one starts to value his time, he quickly realizes the true cost of these things.

      I bet you're a lot of fun at parties.

      --
      Send lawyers, guns, and money. Dad, get me out of this.
    2. Re:$235? no way. by Myco · · Score: 1

      You're right. When you consider the fact that they could have spent the same hours paying to be entertained, the actual project cost is much lower. "Free" time is often anything but.

  148. Only 188 Drinks??? by multipartmixed · · Score: 2

    Something must be wrong.

    16 elements which are either present, or not present in the glass.

    Sounds like 16 bits of storage to me.

    That means it should be able to mix 65,536 drinks. Well, 65,535 if you don't count "empty glass" as a drink.

    Naming them, OTOH, might be somewhat more complicated; although possibly entertaining.

    Maybe you could name them after famous computer numbers? For the old school hacker: drink 53280 would be a "C64 Screen Border". For the new school hacker: drink 31337 would simply be called "leet". Windows guys could drink a BSOD: drink #13; w4rez d00Dz could drink HTTPs and FTPs (80, 21). Managers could drink a "Biff" - drink # 512.

    We could serve the ladies drinks 42, 513, and 517 -- in hopes that they might be in the mood for a 79 or maybe even a quick 513. Heck, some of the ladies might even like drink #587.

    --

    Do daemons dream of electric sleep()?
    1. Re:Only 188 Drinks??? by alexburke · · Score: 2

      Damnit, Wes, you made me hop over to my RHL box to find 587. Apparently Bill isn't into that kind of thing. I'll put money down, though, that you had to look at the list at least once. (And that's 513/TCP, by the way, since 42 already cleared up the 513/UDP question.)

      Nice work, though. :)

    2. Re:Only 188 Drinks??? by papa248 · · Score: 1

      That means it should be able to mix 65,536 drinks. Well, 65,535 if you don't count "empty glass" as a drink.

      It may be possible to make 16-bits worth of drinks, but many people wouldn't consider a whiskey-bailey's-tequila-rum-gin-pineapple-sour a drink...
      --


      The higher, the fewer.
  149. I found the missing $85 by telstar · · Score: 5, Funny

    "we were overbudget by $85"

    Wonder how that happened...

    "Beta Testing"

    Nevermind...

  150. Tech Specs by Hubert_Shrump · · Score: 2

    Uses 16 windshield washer pumps run by a 12V adaptor.

    And when they're all running at once on graveyard(), man, you can feel it in your knees.

    --
    Keep your packets off my GNU/Girlfriend!
  151. Slashdotters is this GPL'd? Chance of a Howto? by neomuzic · · Score: 1

    Slashdotters is this GPL'd? When can we expect a howto for this project?

    --
    -NM
  152. interesting. some tweaks to make it better by Mike+Bridge · · Score: 1

    switch under the spout to make sure there's a glass there
    ice dispenser, and make sure it dumps the ice into the glass first (so that the drink poured over the ice is chilled)
    ingredient matrix, you type in what the 16 liquids are, it looks them up on something like webtender.com and generates the list of possible drinks
    configurable 'cut-off' point, since there are unique IDs, it can control the rate at which each ID can get drinks from it (whether it be calculating from the height/weight/sex from when they registered, to a flat 2 drinks/hour, etc)

    1. Re:interesting. some tweaks to make it better by BrainInAJar · · Score: 1

      2 Drinks an hour? I'd be sober all night, that'd suck.

      Way I see it, is it's got a negative feedback system in it already. The drunker you are, the less likely it is you'll know how to work the machine in the first place.

  153. Use your printer port by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Informative

    Use your computer's printer port - 8 bidirectional lines you can wiggle to make things happen.

    I'd suggest using solid state relays (SSR)'s - your printer port wouldn't drive a normal relay directly, but it could drive an SSR.

    Either that, or use the printer port to drive a transistor, then use the transistor to drive the coil on a standard relay.

    Don't forget to add a snubber network across the relay coil - either a diode or a capacitor. Otherwise the inductive kickback from the coil when you de-energize it could fry things.

    1. Re:Use your printer port by mmol_6453 · · Score: 1

      (Came across your post in metamod)

      Watch out for proximity of amplifiers in the circuit, lest you create a singing relay. (Did that once. :) Shouldn't be too great a threat, since you're creating a resonating tank, but it depends on where your ground is.

      You'd probably be best off using MOSFETs or JFETs to drive the relay coil...I'd suggest using JFETs, since you're much less likely to fry those from static electricity.

      --
      What's this Submit thingy do?
  154. Re:Windshield washer pumps! - solution by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

    actually the solution is to use solenoid valves and CO2.

    if you would simply buy a few old pepsi or coke premix containers that are stainless steel and simply use older but still purchaseable at low cost soda fountian parts you can have each of the canisters hold each ingredient in a fridge. pressurize each canister as they are supposed to be via CO2 and use stainless solenoid valves. you wont get super accurate dispensing unless you do aholding bottle... open valve 1 fill 1 ounce length of line, close valve one open valve 2 to dispense while valve 3 opens to purge the line to actually do the dispensing.

    I'd just go with a simple timer and open the valve for a certian time constant.. if someone accidnetly get's a stronger drink... whooptie doo.

    I discovered adding a soda bar to by basement is dirt cheap if you go for the older technology.. I purchased the premix-canisters from ebay for $5.00 each and simply use food grade tubing and CO2 is the absolute cheapest gas on the planet.

    PROBLEM... Orange juice is horribly acidic and will attack anything... including stainless steel. get low acid juice or remove that ingredient from your selection.

    --
    Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
  155. If they're smart... by jtharpla · · Score: 1

    They'll find a manufacturer to mass produce these...who wouldn't want a $300-400 automated bar? What about restaurants that sell alcohol but can't afford a decent bartender? No problem, buy one of these and a maintenance plan. Hell, they could even add drinks to the database via software updates. Sell different models with different capacities for ingredients...I bet it could really take off.

    In Summary:
    1. BarMonkey
    2. Slashdot
    3. PROFIT!

  156. Does anyone know how to contact the creators? by MyComputerHatesme · · Score: 1

    I built a bar tending machine myself that I called the "trough". I have some questions for the inventors and was wondering if anyone knew how I could Email them. My main question is 'How acurate is the washer pump? Is it timed?' Thanx

    1. Re:Does anyone know how to contact the creators? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We got 16 identical windshield washer pumps from a surplus store. We ran the same amount of tubing from each pump to the nozzle, and arranged the tubes so that gravity would pull the liquid back to the pump after it finished running. The pumps take 0.4 seconds to pump liquid to the very end of the tube, and then liquid flows at 0.83 seconds per ounce. They're really reliable, we're lucky it worked out so well.

    2. Re:Does anyone know how to contact the creators? by MyComputerHatesme · · Score: 1

      Do all the liquids flow at the same rate when they are pumped? I used a gravity feed system and found that Kahlua (coffee liquor) flowed pretty slowly compared to other liquids.

    3. Re:Does anyone know how to contact the creators? by BrainInAJar · · Score: 1

      You'd probably use different timing data for that.

      Like, X ms for vodka, 3X ms for khalua, 10X ms for my moms' coffee...

  157. Great idea but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from the pictures it looks like the ingredients are all being stored in 2L pop bottles. I discovered from experience (home brew) that they are not designed to hold alcohol. The plastic leeches into your liquor and gives it an 'off' taste, not to mention the nasty things it can do to your health. PET bottles are OK though.

    1. Re:Great idea but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      from the pictures it looks like the ingredients are all being stored in 2L pop bottles. I discovered from experience (home brew) that they are not designed to hold alcohol. The plastic leeches into your liquor and gives it an 'off' taste, not to mention the nasty things it can do to your health. PET bottles are OK though.

      Pop bottles are PET (polyethylene terephthalate). So if pop bottles leach (not leech) something into the booze, you want something else. Glass would be good. I have a plastic Bacardi bottle here, but it doesn't say what it's made of.

  158. Bar Monkey Source Code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, I wrote the program that runs on the Bar-Monkey. The source is on my PC at Mudd, but I'm still at home for winter break. Anyone who e-mails dcooper@hmc.edu and asks for source will get a copy in about 10 days.

  159. Dumb-ass touchpad design by writertype · · Score: 1

    By the way, that touch panel is designed ass-backwards. It would be much more intuitive to move the whole number pad one space over, and run the letters down the left side, then across the bottom. But I realize the Bar Monkey guys probably didn't design it :)

  160. Much better than my method... by MojoMonkey · · Score: 1

    Guys in hazmat suits seal off my monkey when the drinks he poured caused a strange illness. There's probably less hair floating in it this way, as well.

    --

    ----- "Blame the guy who doesn't speak English." -- Homer J. Simpson
  161. On the flipside by dachshund · · Score: 1
    Bars don't sell liqour - they sell socialization.

    Really, if you've ever been to a bar during a rush-hour, you'll notice how little time the bartender has for real social interaction. And yet, this is the time that bars make the most money.

    The point is to encourage that situation. People might be willing to forgo bartender socialization just for the chance to get free drinks. Not to mention the cool factor of getting their drink from a machine.

    So as a result you get a high volume of customers and at that point social interaction is more customer-to-customer than customer-to-bartender. Perfectly alright with me and most other people.

  162. oops by dachshund · · Score: 1
    socialization just for the chance to get free drinks

    "free" should read "cheap".

  163. bad ass by cwells · · Score: 1

    that thing kicks ass...great fscking idea!!!
    i'm makin one out of my coffee table...

    'Dispenses an 8 oz. mixed drink in less than 10 seconds.' - this needs some modification.

    1. Re:bad ass by BrainInAJar · · Score: 1

      You Know...

      You could probably make an espresso machine equivalent to this. Some flavour syrup, etc. I'm thinking I'm gonna rip apart my espresso machine tomorrow and start working on it.

  164. 16 ingredients = 188 drinks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Wouldn't 16 ingredients yield 16! = 20922789888000 possible drinks? Hehehe

    1. Re:16 ingredients = 188 drinks? by slim-t · · Score: 1
      Um, no.

      It works in 1 ounce increments and makes an 8 ounce drink. So each of the 8 ounces has 16 possibilities.

      16^8 = 4 Gdrinks

      But apparently only 188 of those taste any good.

  165. 12 Monkeys Reference by Wes+Janson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anyone else notice the reference to the Bruce Willis film 12 Monkeys? That logo on the front of the machine is identical to the 12 Monkeys logo from the movie..

  166. Overclock the Monkey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Up the voltage on the pumps to dispense the goods faster! Not too hard, and oh so much fun! All it needs now is some r337 watercooling to the electric bits!

  167. 12 Monkeys by delus10n0 · · Score: 2

    Did anyone notice the very nice usage of the 12 monkeys logo? Sweetness.

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  168. Geeks causing bar brawls by evil_pb · · Score: 1
    On slashdot in a year:

    "In northern Boston today, a massive bar brawl broke out at a known hardcore biker hangout. The cause was determined to be a couple of 3l33t h4x0r5 denial-of-servicing the bartender from a local payphone..."

  169. Re:Nice concept - for suicide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    A new form of russian roulette. Liquid variety.

    Can you imagine what could be served up when windows glitches - every so often ? Shades of Old Panther.

    I'll rely on the linux crowd, thanks.

  170. Random! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should add some feature where you can push a big red button and create a new drink out of randomly choosen ingredients. If it tastes good, you can name it and save it in the database. If it sucks, you mark it as such and it will never be created again. If everyone participates in this, all good tasting drinks will eventually be discovered.

  171. Tech Support by Dork_Knight · · Score: 1

    Jeez - I'd hate to be Help Desk on this thing. If you think users are cranky when their email goes down ...

  172. Space Ghost by SmittyTheBold · · Score: 1

    ...but a shark on beer is a Beer Engineer.

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  173. but lacking wit, charm and good looks by LittleBigLui · · Score: 2, Funny

    you could always use your 1337 |-|4X0RiN6 Z|<i11Z to get free drinks! because after all, drinks want to be free!

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    1. Re:but lacking wit, charm and good looks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do they want to be free as in speech or free as in b...

      Oh, wait.

  174. Where's the source? by totallygeek · · Score: 2
    Nice they note the use of Linux and c (I will assume gcc). Where is the source? I thought this was the idea behind "fun" projects or projects developed using Linux/gcc -- post the source!


    I have been kicking around a controlled lights idea, and source like this would be invaluable.

    1. Re:Where's the source? by BrainInAJar · · Score: 1

      I think that you'd need to have the proprietary (?) hardware for the code to work at all.

  175. Save The Cola by SomeOtherGuy · · Score: 2

    Why are they considering replacing the cola? Much like they killed good music, stable code, and muscle cars -- the kids of today are just going to make sure whiskey and coke's are only a memory....

    Here is my vote to save the Cola. (Anyone who was thinking of joining the Mandrake CLub -- please reconsider and send to the "Save The Cola" fund instead..)

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  176. What this thing needs by BrainInAJar · · Score: 1

    Is a pimpin' window kit... and watercooling... and overclock it.

    And a cold cathode or 8.

  177. Doesn't this new barkeep... by MayorDefacto · · Score: 1

    ...give new meaning to the phrase "free, as in beer?"

  178. The Pink Lady is a harsh mistress by plimsoll · · Score: 1
    As an aside, the alcoholic 67-year old survivor of The Andromeda Strain had a penchant for strained Sterno - causing the acidosis that spared him from the (fictional) pestilence.

    Crighton's character explained the process of deriving potable hooch from the magenta glob, and referred to the product as 'squeeze.'
    Here's a recipe I found via a cursory googling:

    Sterno [is] warmed over a fire of newspapers preparatory to squeezing it through a sock to make a drink called "Pink Lady."

    EE majors: could the bar-monkeys control a sock with a solenoid, or something?

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  179. The OSX by Otto · · Score: 2

    6 oz. of any colored alcohol of your choice (blue curacao, etc).

    Neat. In a square glass.

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  180. Ummm... these folks better get legal advice pronto by baudtender · · Score: 1

    Gee, hate to spoil these folks good time, and
    a darned impressive hack, but...

    Now that they've posted it publicly, I bet they'll
    soon wish they'd spent a little less time
    calibrating their windshield wiper pumps and a
    little more time researching their state liquor
    and health laws.

    They accentuated the phrase "at cost" probably
    because they think that by being a nonprofit
    enterprise, (or an "everybody chips in and no
    one's in charge" entity) they fall outside of
    liquor laws and civil negligence standards.

    Dead wrong on both counts, and a lot of people
    don't believe it and will swear that they "know"
    differently until someone is up to their ass in
    lawsuits and criminal charges.

    Whether or not it's for-profit, they're dispensing
    liquor in exchange for money. At the very least
    this means they'd better have a liquor license
    to do so. By accepting money, they probably fall
    under a lot of other laws and regulations that
    they haven't considered, such as operating hours
    and record keeping. Having just completed a
    ServSafe course myself, I suspect a Department Of
    Health inspector would nearly have a heart attack
    to find out they're running a foodstuff through
    windshield wiper pumps and other tubing and
    parts that are neither food-grade nor NSF
    certified.

    Since California has a Dram Shop law, the people
    who put alcohol into the machine assume lots of
    liability if someone drinks from their machine
    to a point of intoxication and then goes out and
    injures themself or someone else. Putting a robot
    in charge does not excuse them from negligence.
    I'll bet they think that if a "customer" gets
    drunk using their machine, or supplies booze from
    their machine to a minor, it's the "customer's"
    fault and responsibility. Boy, are they in for an
    awakening. One or more people are putting booze
    into the machine, and they'd better wise up to
    the fact that they are responsible for what
    happens to the people who consume that booze.
    I'm wondering if the university is also liable,
    but I'm sure they'd be interested if it's
    happening on their property.

    But hey, not to worry. Those ABC agents, Health
    Department inspectors, and sue-happy lawyers are
    real easy to get along with (guffaw.)

    Baudtender

  181. Someone remind me again.... by zannox · · Score: 1

    Exactly how many mixed drinks does it take before one doesn't remember thier pin?

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  182. free as in beer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $235...Seems it's not free as in speech and _beer_..... :P

  183. One word: BEER by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 2

    Who needs an operating system that can make coffee when you can have one that makes alcoholic drinks?! Too bad it don't serve Negra Modelo. Una mas cerveza por favor!

  184. Re:With apologies...The full dialogue... by dperkins · · Score: 1

    Chevy Chase ... "Well, I think I'll have a beer."
    Bartender ... "We don't have no beer, just Tequila."
    Martin Short ... "What's Tequila?"
    Bartender ... "It's like beer."
    Chevy Chase "Is it fattening?"
    Bartender ... "Fattenence?"
    Steve Martin ... "Forget it, if it's like beer we'll have some. Three Tequilas."

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  185. .WET Bar 2004

    Costs five times as much for the bar, plus $350 for every drinker. Default .WET Bar only works with 2 bottles. 8, 16, and 32 bottle versions cost more. And they only work with MS-Bottle shaped libations.

    Sun has a "The Bot in Bottle" version that works great with 64 bottles. HP keeps saying their version works faster, but only because their machine doesn't pour full 1oz shots.

    Apple has the most gourgous looking Bar available. It glows in the dark and floats around the room on magnets. But it only pours Apple Martini's and still doesn't run Quark.

  186. That explains a lot by one-egg · · Score: 2

    Hmmm, now I know why Dustin wasn't in class very much this fall!

  187. free... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    as in beer.

  188. Re:YESSS!!!...NINNLE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I can't help that! Maybe Google needs to get with the program...and switch their servers to Ninnle!

  189. It needs one thing for real-world use by Sabalon · · Score: 2

    A hookup to the bar's water supply - how else can it water down drinks and make even more profit.

    Or like the bar across the street from my college - they used real cheap vodka to "water down" the other liquours. That way people still get drunk and buy more and they spend less on the booze.

    On the downside - your whiskey sour tasted like vodka, but the place stayed full until they widened the road.

  190. Great Job by BoogerWoman · · Score: 1
    I wanted to offer my fellow Westies congratulations. Although I'm not there, my heart is.

    I also wanted to put up a joke that Greg Rae, member of the West community, told about three years ago when he began programming the drivers for a robotic bartender arm in the same spirit.

    He said that he wanted to program it in shell script so that when someone asked "What rhymes with Vodka?" he did not have to answer the familiar "More Vodka"...
    ...He could answer "/dev/vodka".