So there's no need to prohibit Australians from visiting online casinos overseas, because online casinos overseas will simply refuse to do business with them. You have an Australian credit card number? Sorry, that card isn't accepted here.
the first piece of Australian internet legislation that can probably be enforced.
why this has happened:
as well as obvious tax controls, Australia has recently been having issues with "problem gamblers", otherwise known as gambling addicts.
online gambling has created a huge difficulty in trying to control problem gambling. if someone can't gamble at the casino or the tab or somewhere else because they are a known problem gambler, they could just go home and gamble online.
a gambling addiction is a very dangerous thing, it directly affects the lives of those around you... sometimes family or co-workers wake up to discover someone they trust has gambled away their house.
If you move into their living space and take over all their food sources, they are going to chew up your lawns. If the local government would provide a few preserves where they could live and eat, they wouldn't be in your apartment complex.
the price of singles has gone up here recently, don't know about anywhere else...
you can prove just about anything you like with statistics, the RIAA know exactly how to report the latest figures with the best spin.
but the bottom line is that they don't want to change the way the music industry works, with maybe one good song bundled with a stacks of songs you don't want. there's no reason we can't have burned-to-order cds... some places already sell them.
Fear of new media is a valid issue, but also remember that if people didn't like similar art in a traditional format, they may not like it in a new media either.
One of my favourite artists John Paul Caponigro uses Paintshop effects on his photos. Similar techniques can be used in the traditional media, but the new media gives him more freedom.
If he produced these same photos on paper, people would like them. If people would not like them in the traditional format, a new media will not make up for that.
Art is about personal taste as well as tradition. Fine art can be produced digitally, but not all digital graphic work is fine art.
In this particular case, also remember that the viewers of the art were in a particular geographic location, Little Rock, Arkansas. These viewers may not like the art itself, or they may not like the format. It is also mentioned that universities take the same view of this art, but the question remains in what way did they view it? was it an application for college? was it for a review of the art?
We haven't seen a sample of this art in particular, and certain art is usually not referred to as a "fine art".
Shrek and Final Fantasy are a type of animation, and while animation is a recognised media, it's rarely called a "fine art".
Shrek is a beautiful peice of animation, but it isn't the same thing as the Mona Lisa. Some digital design is more technical than artistic, it's based on a lot of technical knowledge. That's not to say it's not artistic, but that it's also technical. Not everyone has that technical knowledge, so it makes a new genre of it's own.
What the art form is going to be used for is of primary importance. If it is for display in the home, quite obviously this will be a problem since the viewer needs special equipment. Size may also be an issue, so may the lack of tactile feedback, some artforms are made to be touched.
I wouldn't call a lot of digital art "fine art", not because it's not fine, or art, but because it is too different from the traditional genre in terms of comparison. Most critics compare, if comparison is impossible, or biased towards a traditional format, problems will occur.
If people misunderstand your art, and you believe it is of fine art quality, call it Digital Fine Art, and see if that makes a difference.
If an art genre doesn't seem to fit, create a new one.
I'd say the mention of them not being qualified would achieve that, if it was a male technician you wouldn't think of it as having anything to do with sexism. Which is a bias on your part. The mention of a female doesn't indicate blame based on sex, that's just the way you're interpreting it.
If you encourage people to avoid using the word "she" because people might assume it's a sexist comment, then that will (in turn) encourage sexism.
It won't encourage women to be viewed on equal footing if it keeps being brought up like this.
I am sure they would have been better off digging up some old folks already on the internet, and let them teach their peers.
it's hard to find a senior silver surfer to teach... you'll have to pry them all away from their keyboards first... (only half kidding)
some of them are busy researching their family trees, keeping track of numerous grandchildren and have busy social lives...
it'd be great to see more senior teachers out there, but if there aren't enough, let the younguns go forth so there will be in the future...
It sounds like you're unable to teach someone outside a particular demographic. Your lack of empathy... I would like to say astounds me, but it doesn't.
They're human beings, with the same basic wants and needs of other human beings. They want to be happy, and they like to avoid suffering.
It sounds like you overloaded them with all the wrong kinds of information.
Yes it's all new, or they wouldn't be going to a class about it.
A public pool of knowledge is not over anyone's head. I'd say you explained it in a confusing way, and since you're convinced they're incapable of learning, you're just assuming it's their fault, and not your own. When communication fails, take a look at both sides.
Mail is often returned at the post office, I don't think they'd have any trouble adjusting if you explain it properly.
Memory *retention* is not as good as you get older, but they are not incapable of learning, any more than you are incapable of having empathy for others, the difference there, is that they are trying to learn.
Some seniors may be grumpy, have you ever seen the way they're often treated? especially in retirement towns... and especially by people like you, who say they are incapable of learning. I'd be grumpy as hell too. Show some compassion, they're human beings. They're not stupid or useless or in the way, they have minds and ideas and feelings, they're part of the community.
You listed some qualities you thought made for good students. People who already know how to use technology, are in good health and are wealthy. I'm sorry to say, but that really just sounds like you can't communicate with someone who isn't familiar with technology, or has health problems... maybe that's just too hard for you, that's okay, but it doesn't make people who don't fit into that group, unable to learn.
I do agree that most OSs are not easy to use, which is why a lot of beginners need classes on getting familiar with it. Many people have recommended the Macintosh system, which would be good if you have access to it, but if they do own a different computer it's better to be helping them with what they will be using at home.
There are alot of people who simply shouldn't have computers
This sentence really does not become you.
There are people out there who don't *need* computers, but it's far beyond your control of who should or shouldn't have a computer. Most people don't *need* their computers, even programmers. If they all vanished tomorrow, there are other things we could do. Although, I think we'd miss them.
Maybe you found teaching them frustrating, but I'm sure they found it equally frustrating (if not more so), being taught by you.
If you don't like teaching seniors, don't do it. You may put some of these people off computers for the rest of their lives. If you like the idea of teaching, and want to see if you fit in better with another age group, try kids, they're not usually scared of new things.
You did try though, many people don't ever try and give back to their communities, so be proud of that.
Most scams encourage people to do something immediately, no waiting... they need that money right now or "you'll miss out on the deal" kinda stuff...
If they come across an "offer" they think sounds good, encourage them to get professional advice on it, and if there's no time for that, pass on the offer.
People don't like to miss out on opportunities, and this is one of the things played on by the parasites. Depending on the scam, they can just sound very professional, giving you confidence in them, but some of them make friends with their victims, gain their trust and then abuse it.
Encourage them to ask questions of both the person making the offer and of their friends and family whom they really *do* trust.
And also, of what to do if they think they have been caught in a scam. Many people are embarassed at having been fooled, especially by people who pose as their friends. They need to know that people will not laugh at them, or disbelieve them and that they have rights.
Setup of computers is important for consistency, this may be hard, depending what the computers are normally used for.
Multiple operating systems in the one learning environment can be confusing to new users if their neighbour does something and it works, and they do it and it doesn't or it's different.
Also, don't forget to tell them that computers have limitations, they're not magic, they can't read your mind when you want something and don't know how to get it.
For a lot of new users, young and old, knowing computers aren't perfect makes them a lot less scary and a lot more approachable.
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best laugh I've had all day, thanks buddy *LOL*
a communications minister who doesn't "get" the internet...
So there's no need to prohibit Australians from visiting online casinos overseas, because online casinos overseas will simply refuse to do business with them. You have an Australian credit card number? Sorry, that card isn't accepted here.
the first piece of Australian internet legislation that can probably be enforced.
why this has happened:
as well as obvious tax controls, Australia has recently been having issues with "problem gamblers", otherwise known as gambling addicts.
online gambling has created a huge difficulty in trying to control problem gambling. if someone can't gamble at the casino or the tab or somewhere else because they are a known problem gambler, they could just go home and gamble online.
a gambling addiction is a very dangerous thing, it directly affects the lives of those around you... sometimes family or co-workers wake up to discover someone they trust has gambled away their house.
have you ever sent this in as an article or to ask slashdot?
it doesn't quite fit here, but some people might be interested
slip of the mouse maybe?
If you move into their living space and take over all their food sources, they are going to chew up your lawns. If the local government would provide a few preserves where they could live and eat, they wouldn't be in your apartment complex.
I think you'll find that they were referring to the flaming Skylab that fell out of the sky onto Australia...
we escaped MIR though...
ya won't find many lit lightbulbs on the moon... unless the aliens are afraid of the dark...
and not being rude, but I doubt Hyperion is as smart as an Asimov robot...
I really hope robot creators pay some serious attention to some of the points he made
less sales of singles...
the price of singles has gone up here recently, don't know about anywhere else...
you can prove just about anything you like with statistics, the RIAA know exactly how to report the latest figures with the best spin.
but the bottom line is that they don't want to change the way the music industry works, with maybe one good song bundled with a stacks of songs you don't want. there's no reason we can't have burned-to-order cds... some places already sell them.
In a price evaluation it does make a difference. the real Mona Lisa is obviously worth more than a poster of the same painting.
A lot of art assessments are made based on investment value, not just the value of the art to mankind
Fear of new media is a valid issue, but also remember that if people didn't like similar art in a traditional format, they may not like it in a new media either.
One of my favourite artists John Paul Caponigro uses Paintshop effects on his photos. Similar techniques can be used in the traditional media, but the new media gives him more freedom.
If he produced these same photos on paper, people would like them. If people would not like them in the traditional format, a new media will not make up for that.
Art is about personal taste as well as tradition. Fine art can be produced digitally, but not all digital graphic work is fine art.
In this particular case, also remember that the viewers of the art were in a particular geographic location, Little Rock, Arkansas. These viewers may not like the art itself, or they may not like the format. It is also mentioned that universities take the same view of this art, but the question remains in what way did they view it? was it an application for college? was it for a review of the art?
We haven't seen a sample of this art in particular, and certain art is usually not referred to as a "fine art".
Shrek and Final Fantasy are a type of animation, and while animation is a recognised media, it's rarely called a "fine art".
Shrek is a beautiful peice of animation, but it isn't the same thing as the Mona Lisa. Some digital design is more technical than artistic, it's based on a lot of technical knowledge. That's not to say it's not artistic, but that it's also technical. Not everyone has that technical knowledge, so it makes a new genre of it's own.
What the art form is going to be used for is of primary importance. If it is for display in the home, quite obviously this will be a problem since the viewer needs special equipment. Size may also be an issue, so may the lack of tactile feedback, some artforms are made to be touched.
I wouldn't call a lot of digital art "fine art", not because it's not fine, or art, but because it is too different from the traditional genre in terms of comparison. Most critics compare, if comparison is impossible, or biased towards a traditional format, problems will occur.
If people misunderstand your art, and you believe it is of fine art quality, call it Digital Fine Art, and see if that makes a difference.
If an art genre doesn't seem to fit, create a new one.
it's all bad without Slashdot
pick part of the plant, squeeze it... ya got yourself some sunburn treatment... straight from mother nature... :o)
aloe vera is a type of plant!
I'd say the mention of them not being qualified would achieve that, if it was a male technician you wouldn't think of it as having anything to do with sexism. Which is a bias on your part. The mention of a female doesn't indicate blame based on sex, that's just the way you're interpreting it.
/. is back *G*
If you encourage people to avoid using the word "she" because people might assume it's a sexist comment, then that will (in turn) encourage sexism.
It won't encourage women to be viewed on equal footing if it keeps being brought up like this.
but I agree with you, who cares...
if that was a post about a guy, and he was thought to be less than qualified, would you be posting this?
sexism goes both ways, assuming someone isn't incompetent due to their gender is just as stupid as assuming they are
equal rights for incompetent people dammit! *L*
and yes, I am a chick
on a personal note, maybe that post was taken down due to it's rudeness, rather than the sex of the person involved...
my 2 cents...
Ugh! My fluorescent tan is gone -- replaced by a real sunburn! I'm shrivelling up! Help!!
that's what aloe vera is for
I am sure they would have been better off digging up some old folks already on the internet, and let them teach their peers. it's hard to find a senior silver surfer to teach... you'll have to pry them all away from their keyboards first... (only half kidding)
some of them are busy researching their family trees, keeping track of numerous grandchildren and have busy social lives...
it'd be great to see more senior teachers out there, but if there aren't enough, let the younguns go forth so there will be in the future...
Oh well, perhaps I'll have to wait for the internet generation to grow grey hairs...
It's a good idea, maybe you could start a silver surfers anti-spam group... a lot of senior's rights groups do some fantastic work with local councils
I just wish my grandpa was alive to see this
It sounds like you're unable to teach someone outside a particular demographic. Your lack of empathy... I would like to say astounds me, but it doesn't.
They're human beings, with the same basic wants and needs of other human beings. They want to be happy, and they like to avoid suffering.
It sounds like you overloaded them with all the wrong kinds of information.
Yes it's all new, or they wouldn't be going to a class about it.
A public pool of knowledge is not over anyone's head. I'd say you explained it in a confusing way, and since you're convinced they're incapable of learning, you're just assuming it's their fault, and not your own. When communication fails, take a look at both sides.
Mail is often returned at the post office, I don't think they'd have any trouble adjusting if you explain it properly.
Memory *retention* is not as good as you get older, but they are not incapable of learning, any more than you are incapable of having empathy for others, the difference there, is that they are trying to learn.
Some seniors may be grumpy, have you ever seen the way they're often treated? especially in retirement towns... and especially by people like you, who say they are incapable of learning. I'd be grumpy as hell too. Show some compassion, they're human beings. They're not stupid or useless or in the way, they have minds and ideas and feelings, they're part of the community.
You listed some qualities you thought made for good students. People who already know how to use technology, are in good health and are wealthy. I'm sorry to say, but that really just sounds like you can't communicate with someone who isn't familiar with technology, or has health problems... maybe that's just too hard for you, that's okay, but it doesn't make people who don't fit into that group, unable to learn.
I do agree that most OSs are not easy to use, which is why a lot of beginners need classes on getting familiar with it. Many people have recommended the Macintosh system, which would be good if you have access to it, but if they do own a different computer it's better to be helping them with what they will be using at home.
There are alot of people who simply shouldn't have computers
This sentence really does not become you.
There are people out there who don't *need* computers, but it's far beyond your control of who should or shouldn't have a computer. Most people don't *need* their computers, even programmers. If they all vanished tomorrow, there are other things we could do. Although, I think we'd miss them.
Maybe you found teaching them frustrating, but I'm sure they found it equally frustrating (if not more so), being taught by you.
If you don't like teaching seniors, don't do it. You may put some of these people off computers for the rest of their lives. If you like the idea of teaching, and want to see if you fit in better with another age group, try kids, they're not usually scared of new things.
You did try though, many people don't ever try and give back to their communities, so be proud of that.
use their names... find out their backgrounds, why they want to learn this sort of thing... it'll put them at ease, and help you tailor your approach.
Most scams encourage people to do something immediately, no waiting... they need that money right now or "you'll miss out on the deal" kinda stuff...
If they come across an "offer" they think sounds good, encourage them to get professional advice on it, and if there's no time for that, pass on the offer.
People don't like to miss out on opportunities, and this is one of the things played on by the parasites. Depending on the scam, they can just sound very professional, giving you confidence in them, but some of them make friends with their victims, gain their trust and then abuse it.
Encourage them to ask questions of both the person making the offer and of their friends and family whom they really *do* trust.
And also, of what to do if they think they have been caught in a scam. Many people are embarassed at having been fooled, especially by people who pose as their friends. They need to know that people will not laugh at them, or disbelieve them and that they have rights.
Setup of computers is important for consistency, this may be hard, depending what the computers are normally used for.
Multiple operating systems in the one learning environment can be confusing to new users if their neighbour does something and it works, and they do it and it doesn't or it's different.
Also, don't forget to tell them that computers have limitations, they're not magic, they can't read your mind when you want something and don't know how to get it.
For a lot of new users, young and old, knowing computers aren't perfect makes them a lot less scary and a lot more approachable.