as a Model S owner, i can attest that this simply isn't true. i haven't noticed any significant loss of range from A/C use. Just drove it about 250 miles yesterday and it was over 90 degrees out, and i had the A/C blasting the whole time. i even beat my projected range on the trip by a few percentage points.
I'm a Model S owner (P100D -- range about 325 miles or so)
I recently took my Tesla on two family trips. one to Pinhurst, NC (about 600 miles) and one to Deep Creek Lake (about 200 miles).
the car performed spectacularly on both. we easily fit everything we needed for a week's stay in a cabin for a family of four in the trunk and the frunk (the back is cavernous for a sedan).
on the Pinehurst trip, I stopped halfway at a supercharger station in the parking lot of a nice family restaurant / pub. the car was ready to continue well before we finished eating lunch.
At Deep Creek Lake, I simply plugged in to a standard 120 volt exterior outlet on the cabin, but there were also destination chargers around the area if I had needed to charge more quickly.
particularly on the coasts, there are are tons options for charging when necessary. However, I feel like focusing on charging is missing the point. Since buying the car in September, those two long trips are the only times i've ever had to charge the car publicly. it charges overnight in my garage. i've got a full 325+ mile range every morning. it's like owning a car that never needs a fillup. (plus the acceleration has to be experienced to be believed:) )
i won a Tesla. in heavy traffic, my remaining range typically goes up, not down. the lower speeds (plus regen brakes) more than make up for the inefficiency of repeatedly accelerating and decelerating. it's a little counter-intuitive, but in my experience i get the same or more range per charge commuting than i do on long trips.
also keep in mind most owners will charge at home over night. charging is a complete non-issue for me.
on top of that, there are chargers everywhere for those rare long trips that are more than 300 miles. (my Model S has a range of about 320 miles)
why do you guys bother keeping this comment section running, when it has clearly devolved into one of the worst, most openly racist and least interesting communities on the internet? okay, sure, there are communities specifically geared towards right-wing fascism and racism that are probably worse, but this site is supposed to be about, you know, tech news and stuff. but you guys have let it erode into something gross that almost nobody other than despicable morons want to participate in. i remember years ago when articles would have hundreds of interesting and insightful comments, with actual experts weighing in with well thought out reactions. those people are all gone, and with very good reason. are you glad they're gone? do you miss them? do you miss relevancy?
i doubt you are proud of providing a forum dominated by some of the worst elements of humanity. so that's why i'm asking why you continue to do so.
wow you are out of touch. every idiot on the internet knows nikola tesla, he is very trendy and has been for years. to the point where Diane Rehm on NPR a couple years back did a show where her guest wrote a biography about Edison... and every. single. call. was a hipster calling in to whine about how badly Edison screwed Tesla, and how amazing Tesla was, and what a jerk Edison was.
Not really. Everyone knows autopilot in aircraft basically just flies the plane in a straight line. Nobody expects to take off or land for the pilot. In that sense, Tesla's autopilot actually does more than it's name implies.
it's funny to me when people accuse casinos of cheating. why in the world would you cheat, when you have people pouring in to your establishment voluntarily dumping truckloads of money into games whose very premise is that you will probably lose? the casino has every incentive to sit back and play by the rules as written, and no rational incentive to assume any of the risk involved in deceit or misconduct.
uhm, yes, they are programmed to give specific outcomes. maybe you should look up how they work. the operator selects a payout percentage, and the machine then doles out wins at a rate that maintains that percentage. the computer in the slot machine determines whether you win or lose long before before the wheels stop turning.
and yes, it does intentionally stop them on a disproportionate number of "near miss" jackpots.
uhm, have you ever tried doing that? tempered glass is hard as hell to shatter (unless you hit it on an edge, which wouldn't be accessable in a crashed car scenario, or unless you have a heavy, pointed object.
i wonder if social media and the ubiquity of the internet has anything to do with it. i suspect it's more healthy for the brain to be actively engaged with friends and family, even virtually, and reading about current events (even if it's hateful clickbait) than sitting around having very little mental or emotional engagement knitting doilies or whatever.
oh please, if i hadn't replied, the other 100,000 replies would have still happened. i knew they were already on their way. it's not like i could have stopped it.
i worked at NG for 7 years, and there were several instances (the last one being in 2010) where email system company-wide was crippled or knocked offline by an email that was sent to the wrong mailing list. apparently, there was one available that included literally every single person in the system (probably about 100,000 people).
i remember one morning in about 2008 or so, getting an email addressed to some team i wasn't a part of, seeing the "CC" list was several miles long, and i knew instantly what was going to happen. i guess the "first post" instinct in me acted up for the first time ever. i knew we were all already doomed, so i hit reply-all and simply posted: "oh no, not again." i did manage to be first, but before i could blink, i had over a thousand new emails all saying some variation of "WHAT IS THIS?" "REMOVE ME FROM THIS LIST" and "STOP REPLYING FOR GODS SAKE". my new emails hit 30,000 in a few minutes.
the entire NG email system was down for more than a day.
two days later i got called into my boss's office and he explained that top-tier management at NG had demanded that i be fired. my "oh no not again" was the last email most people saw before the system exploded. a very heated conversation between my supervisors and NG executives apparently just barely saved my job, but my supervisors were not pleased either and mentioned this would go on my permanent record (i thought that was just a high school thing). it didn't matter that i didn't actually do anything to cause the crash. i had merely made myself visible at the wrong time, and NG wanted someone's head.
maybe both. the Romulans use an artificial singularity to power their starships. i never considered that parking one way out at the ass end of the solar system's parking lot would throw entire system out of wack, though.
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hahahaha ridiculous trolls losing their ass shorting Tesla have no meaningful bearing on this discussion.
all cars, including this one, can brake far faster than they can accelerate.
somehow i'm missing your point.
wait, you're not actually unaware that the car has traditional brakes and pads in addition to the regen feature, are you?
as a Model S owner, i can attest that this simply isn't true. i haven't noticed any significant loss of range from A/C use. Just drove it about 250 miles yesterday and it was over 90 degrees out, and i had the A/C blasting the whole time. i even beat my projected range on the trip by a few percentage points.
haha OWN a Tesla. i didn't win it.
I'm a Model S owner (P100D -- range about 325 miles or so)
I recently took my Tesla on two family trips. one to Pinhurst, NC (about 600 miles) and one to Deep Creek Lake (about 200 miles).
the car performed spectacularly on both. we easily fit everything we needed for a week's stay in a cabin for a family of four in the trunk and the frunk (the back is cavernous for a sedan).
on the Pinehurst trip, I stopped halfway at a supercharger station in the parking lot of a nice family restaurant / pub. the car was ready to continue well before we finished eating lunch.
At Deep Creek Lake, I simply plugged in to a standard 120 volt exterior outlet on the cabin, but there were also destination chargers around the area if I had needed to charge more quickly.
particularly on the coasts, there are are tons options for charging when necessary. However, I feel like focusing on charging is missing the point. Since buying the car in September, those two long trips are the only times i've ever had to charge the car publicly. it charges overnight in my garage. i've got a full 325+ mile range every morning. it's like owning a car that never needs a fillup. (plus the acceleration has to be experienced to be believed :) )
i won a Tesla. in heavy traffic, my remaining range typically goes up, not down. the lower speeds (plus regen brakes) more than make up for the inefficiency of repeatedly accelerating and decelerating. it's a little counter-intuitive, but in my experience i get the same or more range per charge commuting than i do on long trips.
also keep in mind most owners will charge at home over night. charging is a complete non-issue for me.
on top of that, there are chargers everywhere for those rare long trips that are more than 300 miles. (my Model S has a range of about 320 miles)
the comments section, i mean. honest question.
why do you guys bother keeping this comment section running, when it has clearly devolved into one of the worst, most openly racist and least interesting communities on the internet? okay, sure, there are communities specifically geared towards right-wing fascism and racism that are probably worse, but this site is supposed to be about, you know, tech news and stuff. but you guys have let it erode into something gross that almost nobody other than despicable morons want to participate in. i remember years ago when articles would have hundreds of interesting and insightful comments, with actual experts weighing in with well thought out reactions. those people are all gone, and with very good reason. are you glad they're gone? do you miss them? do you miss relevancy?
i doubt you are proud of providing a forum dominated by some of the worst elements of humanity. so that's why i'm asking why you continue to do so.
(okay, increased 50% every year)
heyo right-wing racism? SHOCKER.
dying, hahaha. Tesla sales have doubled every year. you can't turn back time just by wishing for it, you ignorant troglodyte.
PS actually test drive a tesla and it will shut your stupid ass up, it's an amazing car.
wow you are out of touch. every idiot on the internet knows nikola tesla, he is very trendy and has been for years. to the point where Diane Rehm on NPR a couple years back did a show where her guest wrote a biography about Edison ... and every. single. call. was a hipster calling in to whine about how badly Edison screwed Tesla, and how amazing Tesla was, and what a jerk Edison was.
sort of ....
http://www.teslarati.com/elon-...
as an owner of a Tesla (and as an owner of a bit of Tesla stock), i am completely and totally thrilled, like almost all other Tesla owners.
http://www.autonews.com/articl...
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Not really. Everyone knows autopilot in aircraft basically just flies the plane in a straight line. Nobody expects to take off or land for the pilot. In that sense, Tesla's autopilot actually does more than it's name implies.
it's funny to me when people accuse casinos of cheating. why in the world would you cheat, when you have people pouring in to your establishment voluntarily dumping truckloads of money into games whose very premise is that you will probably lose? the casino has every incentive to sit back and play by the rules as written, and no rational incentive to assume any of the risk involved in deceit or misconduct.
uhm, yes, they are programmed to give specific outcomes. maybe you should look up how they work. the operator selects a payout percentage, and the machine then doles out wins at a rate that maintains that percentage. the computer in the slot machine determines whether you win or lose long before before the wheels stop turning.
and yes, it does intentionally stop them on a disproportionate number of "near miss" jackpots.
we aren't immigrants. we're merely educated. i've lived in Northern Virginia all my life.
breakability is not a safety feature.
uhm, have you ever tried doing that? tempered glass is hard as hell to shatter (unless you hit it on an edge, which wouldn't be accessable in a crashed car scenario, or unless you have a heavy, pointed object.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
wow it's almost like depression or other types of mental illness can make people do things that aren't rational.
fucking dipshit.
i wonder if social media and the ubiquity of the internet has anything to do with it. i suspect it's more healthy for the brain to be actively engaged with friends and family, even virtually, and reading about current events (even if it's hateful clickbait) than sitting around having very little mental or emotional engagement knitting doilies or whatever.
oh please, if i hadn't replied, the other 100,000 replies would have still happened. i knew they were already on their way. it's not like i could have stopped it.
i worked at NG for 7 years, and there were several instances (the last one being in 2010) where email system company-wide was crippled or knocked offline by an email that was sent to the wrong mailing list. apparently, there was one available that included literally every single person in the system (probably about 100,000 people).
i remember one morning in about 2008 or so, getting an email addressed to some team i wasn't a part of, seeing the "CC" list was several miles long, and i knew instantly what was going to happen. i guess the "first post" instinct in me acted up for the first time ever. i knew we were all already doomed, so i hit reply-all and simply posted: "oh no, not again." i did manage to be first, but before i could blink, i had over a thousand new emails all saying some variation of "WHAT IS THIS?" "REMOVE ME FROM THIS LIST" and "STOP REPLYING FOR GODS SAKE". my new emails hit 30,000 in a few minutes.
the entire NG email system was down for more than a day.
two days later i got called into my boss's office and he explained that top-tier management at NG had demanded that i be fired. my "oh no not again" was the last email most people saw before the system exploded. a very heated conversation between my supervisors and NG executives apparently just barely saved my job, but my supervisors were not pleased either and mentioned this would go on my permanent record (i thought that was just a high school thing). it didn't matter that i didn't actually do anything to cause the crash. i had merely made myself visible at the wrong time, and NG wanted someone's head.
so glad i don't work there now.
maybe both. the Romulans use an artificial singularity to power their starships. i never considered that parking one way out at the ass end of the solar system's parking lot would throw entire system out of wack, though.