What percentage of wimpdose users are going to even think about installing this, supposing they actually get to hear about it? Come on now, put yourselves in a typical Word-Excel-Outlook user's or Space-monster-killer's shoes and tell me if they even suspect that there is other software out there that you don't buy in a shrinkwrapped box, or if they even care about it for that matter. Learning curves are not everybody's cup of tea.
So put yourselves in a W2K system administrator's shoes: now you're different - your employees WANT you to spend money on Microslime-specific products to help shore up their decision to invest in the pathetic operating system they opted for, and you want to keep getting your paycheck so you're not going to play games that might break their expensive toy, are you.
Which leaves what?
I'll go along with all the others who say that this is no more than a geek toy, whose usefulness can't be compared to the potential benefits from its vice-versa brother Wine.
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How long have Gnumeric, Abiword, and the Gimp been ***GNOME*** applications? There's no Gnomes in my machine, yet I use Gimp and have used (and rejected until more mature) Gnum and Abi.
Bring the others into line then.
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If everyone else is using MS word, the cost for me of not using it is high. First, the file filter are not perfect, so there is the cost of not being able to read some documents people send me. Second, if I hire new staff, they will need retraining.
So insist on their using RTF like intelligent people are supposed to do.
Someone comes along and offers an excellent product for free and with no strings attached. Moreover, it's product that has consistently proved technically more mature than any other interface with the same pretentions, including commercial interfaces. The project is free of irrelevant ambitions, since they don't need to introduce gimmicky functionality to make up for shortcomings (though this doesn't preclude them from making the interface amusing to use). This approach means they can continue to develop the desktop coherently and at the right pace. The KDE people know they're on a winner and they're entitled to start making noise about it, and if I were on the KDE team myself I reckon I'd be feeling pretty pleased right now, and the last thing on my mind would be wanting to know how Gnome is getting on.
If I were a Gnome person on the other hand, I'm pretty sure that right now I'd be feeling the spurs in my ribs and meaning to catch up in a big way.
Even if you like the hell out of Gnome, there's no way the arrival of KDE2.1 can be considered fearful news. Be happy for everyone.
This thread sums up precisely why whenever I play games on my computer, it's through Atari or Amiga emulators. They could only hide so much behind flashy graphics on those machines, so at the end of the day, they had to give you something to _play_.
...an opportunity to get rid of that nondescript name and call it by a name that's more suggestive of what it does. I'm sure I'm not the only person to be saturated with initials to such an extent that sometimes I can't even remember what I'm talking about.
Well I'd like to know what Dan Parisi's motivation is too, but no one can actually say he's squatting their domain.
The point I'd like to make is, what are all these big boys doing on the web anyway? What did we do wrong to allow it to be taken over like this? I don't believe it was conceived as a vehicle for corporate interests, and trademarks ought never to have been an issue.
What's stopping commercial interests from starting up their own network where trademark rules et al are applied. I don't see what most of them have ever contributed to the internet, so why should I listen to their bitching about how unfair it is to them. To put it coarsely, if they don't like it here, why don't they simply fuck off.
Hey, big boys, you wanna change the rules and Dan Parisi, whatever his reasons are, doesn't go along with that. Fine. He gets my vote over you any day.
I've never read such a lot of arrogant SHIT in all my life as the reponses to this article. What a pack of patronising morons. If you don't believe me go and count the number of
- racist Indian jokes
- 'they ought to be spending money on other things' comments
-
Oh fuck it, I can't be bothered to continue this posting, you disgust me. (If you feel implicated then the "you" means "you - yes you").
...that the media are acting as government propaganda agents? Does it mean people believe
what they read in the press? Does it mean people believe what the government says in your country?
Just a hypothesis, but major record companies who go aong with this system could be cutting their own throats in the medium-to-long term. Today the web's all about horizontal communication, and this goes for discs as much as anything else. Here's how it goes: Companies make transmission of musical data a Microsucks monopoly, so people (those who don't necessarily have pirate friends) are no longer able to listen to the big names without paying the Microsucks/Record Company tax. But wait a minute - aren't the big names simply the ones we're allowed to discover once the record companies have finished filtering? Yes, but now, with horizontal communication, we don't need to rely on the record companies any more, do we. Musicians can make their music available to anyone in the world, and we can now discover the 99% of artists that the record companies left behind. That's fine by me. I don't mind the companies making money out of the 1% of artists we allow them to keep.
By contrast, Microsoft has traditionally retained tight control over the Windows source code, which company executives have called Microsoft's "crown jewels."
Beware, executives - ridicule can kill!
Micro$ucks could publish the whole of their source code in the NYT and it wouldn't make a shit bit of difference.... 'cept we'd be able to see which bits they stole.
1. It's not the moderators who have turned/. into a pile of flaming filth.
2. There's a big demand for flamebait.
3. Parrots do not whine, neither do they dine.
4. Microsoft is bad and mean.
5. So are all the other corporate interests.
6. If Linux doesn't save the world from doom, who will?
7..Net means Java in Etruscan.
8. Stop reading my posts, everyone.
What exactly was the purpose of Tucows opening up a BSD section? I vaguely remember when it began, probably not even a year ago. I took a look at the site more through curiosity than anything else. It was pretty obvious that Tucows wasn't going to be able to offer me anything that I didn't already have access to -- if anyone writes an application for (or ports an application to) *BSD, there are already well-defined channels for making it available, and if there's any news concerning *BSD, it seems hardly likely that Tucows will have the scoop. But I've never felt bad about Tucows for the simple reason that I, along with what I imagine is an army of other *BSD users, simply don't have the time or the will to visit their site. It's irrelevant, a non-event. I can only imagine that all these *BSD grumblers about what goes on at Tucows must have too much time and bandwidth on their hands. Again, I've nothing personal against Tucows but I can see no reason for any *BSD or Linux user to use a site that was designed as a source of Windows shareware. Will someone please stand up and say exactly what he has found on Tucows that is of interest to an open source user?
Is this code that is "really bad"? Or "code that shows elegant and masterful design"?
I don't know, but just looking at it, it's a brilliant example of why perl is either something you love or something you just can't imagine yourself ever learning.
... they woould have to release any changes they make to the linux kernel to the user and the community as noted in the GPL.
They certainly would, but I think it would be a good idea to waive the rules for Microsoft if it helps keep open-source software bug-free!
Anyway, if their distribution wasn't real Linux, then Linux would still be a threat wouldn't it.
If life occured two or more separate times in our solar system alone, it would seem to be nearly immpossible that it hasn't occured many times elsewhere.
...assuming, of course, that the two or more separate occurences aren't related in any way. But that's history, not science.
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What percentage of wimpdose users are going to even think about installing this, supposing they actually get to hear about it? Come on now, put yourselves in a typical Word-Excel-Outlook user's or Space-monster-killer's shoes and tell me if they even suspect that there is other software out there that you don't buy in a shrinkwrapped box, or if they even care about it for that matter. Learning curves are not everybody's cup of tea.
So put yourselves in a W2K system administrator's shoes: now you're different - your employees WANT you to spend money on Microslime-specific products to help shore up their decision to invest in the pathetic operating system they opted for, and you want to keep getting your paycheck so you're not going to play games that might break their expensive toy, are you.
Which leaves what?
I'll go along with all the others who say that this is no more than a geek toy, whose usefulness can't be compared to the potential benefits from its vice-versa brother Wine.
How long have Gnumeric, Abiword, and the Gimp been ***GNOME*** applications? There's no Gnomes in my machine, yet I use Gimp and have used (and rejected until more mature) Gnum and Abi.
So insist on their using RTF like intelligent people are supposed to do.
Someone comes along and offers an excellent product for free and with no strings attached. Moreover, it's product that has consistently proved technically more mature than any other interface with the same pretentions, including commercial interfaces. The project is free of irrelevant ambitions, since they don't need to introduce gimmicky functionality to make up for shortcomings (though this doesn't preclude them from making the interface amusing to use). This approach means they can continue to develop the desktop coherently and at the right pace. The KDE people know they're on a winner and they're entitled to start making noise about it, and if I were on the KDE team myself I reckon I'd be feeling pretty pleased right now, and the last thing on my mind would be wanting to know how Gnome is getting on.
If I were a Gnome person on the other hand, I'm pretty sure that right now I'd be feeling the spurs in my ribs and meaning to catch up in a big way.
Even if you like the hell out of Gnome, there's no way the arrival of KDE2.1 can be considered fearful news. Be happy for everyone.
This thread sums up precisely why whenever I play games on my computer, it's through Atari or Amiga emulators. They could only hide so much behind flashy graphics on those machines, so at the end of the day, they had to give you something to _play_.
...an opportunity to get rid of that nondescript name and call it by a name that's more suggestive of what it does. I'm sure I'm not the only person to be saturated with initials to such an extent that sometimes I can't even remember what I'm talking about.
The point I'd like to make is, what are all these big boys doing on the web anyway? What did we do wrong to allow it to be taken over like this? I don't believe it was conceived as a vehicle for corporate interests, and trademarks ought never to have been an issue.
What's stopping commercial interests from starting up their own network where trademark rules et al are applied. I don't see what most of them have ever contributed to the internet, so why should I listen to their bitching about how unfair it is to them.
To put it coarsely, if they don't like it here, why don't they simply fuck off.
Hey, big boys, you wanna change the rules and Dan Parisi, whatever his reasons are, doesn't go along with that. Fine. He gets my vote over you any day.
- racist Indian jokes
- 'they ought to be spending money on other things' comments
-
Oh fuck it, I can't be bothered to continue this posting, you disgust me. (If you feel implicated then the "you" means "you - yes you").
And Americans are noisy obese hamburger-eating arrogant greedy obsessed corporate murderous badly-dressed warmongering sheep. So what?
...that the media are acting as government propaganda agents? Does it mean people believe what they read in the press? Does it mean people believe what the government says in your country?
Just a hypothesis, but major record companies who go aong with this system could be cutting their own throats in the medium-to-long term. Today the web's all about horizontal communication, and this goes for discs as much as anything else. Here's how it goes: Companies make transmission of musical data a Microsucks monopoly, so people (those who don't necessarily have pirate friends) are no longer able to listen to the big names without paying the Microsucks/Record Company tax. But wait a minute - aren't the big names simply the ones we're allowed to discover once the record companies have finished filtering? Yes, but now, with horizontal communication, we don't need to rely on the record companies any more, do we. Musicians can make their music available to anyone in the world, and we can now discover the 99% of artists that the record companies left behind. That's fine by me. I don't mind the companies making money out of the 1% of artists we allow them to keep.
By contrast, Microsoft has traditionally retained tight control over the Windows source code, which company executives have called Microsoft's "crown jewels."
Beware, executives - ridicule can kill!
.... 'cept we'd be able to see which bits they stole.
Micro$ucks could publish the whole of their source code in the NYT and it wouldn't make a shit bit of difference
The last thing anyone could say is you're a quick learner.
... and the HTML needs to lose the way that everything sits within a single table, making the page so slow to load...
/. very discreet, tasteful, and easy on the eye. OMMIAMP.
That's the only grumble I agree with. For the rest, I find
1. It's not the moderators who have turned /. into a pile of flaming filth. .Net means Java in Etruscan.
2. There's a big demand for flamebait.
3. Parrots do not whine, neither do they dine.
4. Microsoft is bad and mean.
5. So are all the other corporate interests.
6. If Linux doesn't save the world from doom, who will?
7.
8. Stop reading my posts, everyone.
Have I done enough to earn a "redundant"?
So Tucows BSD has gone. Please explain to me in what way BSD is now poorer.
What exactly was the purpose of Tucows opening up a BSD section? I vaguely remember when it began, probably not even a year ago. I took a look at the site more through curiosity than anything else. It was pretty obvious that Tucows wasn't going to be able to offer me anything that I didn't already have access to -- if anyone writes an application for (or ports an application to) *BSD, there are already well-defined channels for making it available, and if there's any news concerning *BSD, it seems hardly likely that Tucows will have the scoop. But I've never felt bad about Tucows for the simple reason that I, along with what I imagine is an army of other *BSD users, simply don't have the time or the will to visit their site. It's irrelevant, a non-event. I can only imagine that all these *BSD grumblers about what goes on at Tucows must have too much time and bandwidth on their hands. Again, I've nothing personal against Tucows but I can see no reason for any *BSD or Linux user to use a site that was designed as a source of Windows shareware. Will someone please stand up and say exactly what he has found on Tucows that is of interest to an open source user?
Shit, you waited till I'd changed all my Linux boxes and now you tell me that!
Is this code that is "really bad"? Or "code that shows elegant and masterful design"?
I don't know, but just looking at it, it's a brilliant example of why perl is either something you love or something you just can't imagine yourself ever learning.
-- notice the lack of #weird incantations at the start
class GREETINGS is
 main is
#OUT+"Hello, World.\n"
 end -- of main
end -- of class GREETINGS
What is particularly inelegant about: 1 file(s) copied ??
The correct BSD reaction is to sit back and be smug. (Personally, I'm as smug as a bug in a rug.)
... they woould have to release any changes they make to the linux kernel to the user and the community as noted in the GPL.
They certainly would, but I think it would be a good idea to waive the rules for Microsoft if it helps keep open-source software bug-free!
Anyway, if their distribution wasn't real Linux, then Linux would still be a threat wouldn't it.
Well, that made things clear.
If life occured two or more separate times in our solar system alone, it would seem to be nearly immpossible that it hasn't occured many times elsewhere.
...assuming, of course, that the two or more separate occurences aren't related in any way. But that's history, not science.