so what do you do about security on the LAN from one unit to the next? Can you browse unrestricted through all 400 apartments and play script kiddies or is there someone who will say "you're banned for a month" if you do?
Sounds like a good idea on the whole though. I was going to do the same with a flat and rent it to some students. "Free High speed 'net included in rent!" certainly adds more value than it costs.
Still looking for the right place to buy though...
Cable and DSL have very different infrastructures, so charges for a base rent are likely to vary widely, even between two similar services, depending on how populous the area is you living in, and how likely it is that there will be enough subscribers to warrant Cable TV/ADSL. It cost a cable company a lot of $$ to roll a cable down a few streets just to open a market for a few hundred subsribers, whereas a DSL company automatically has access to thousands of subsribers as soon as the telco DSL enables the telephone exchange - and every address in modern city has a copper pair for a telephone already installed. The backbone infrastructure is the same after that so data is the only cost once you have a few routers (admittedly big expensive ones for many broadband connections) have been set up. An ISP will simply rent an ethernet cable off their wholesale provider and co-locate some boxes to attach the routers to. It's that cable that draws the biggest monthly charge for an ISP, not the payment on the equipment - In my experience of course.
C'mon people. How many of you have unlimited downloads on cable or xDSL - all the time?
Charging for data is the only way an ISP can fairly doll out its data expenses, given that it's the way most ISP's are charged by their wholesale provider.
I'm all for a dead cheap ADSL monthly rent, and bandwith charges for every meg, so long as my ISP keeps it's rates fair to all, and plans it's charges in such a way that it won't go out of business in 18 months.
You'll find a lot of the buildings in th UK can be as old as 500 years, but mostly the office's in traditional buildings were built in and around the 1800's. This means that there is a whole lot of stone to drill though, or large sections of floor that need to be ripped up to run cables, and in some buildings this is just plain impossible.
So when an office in a building has say 24 points, and requires more (due to expansion, extra network printers, whatever), they sometimes need to obtain planning permission to put holes in walls, floors, etc. which can be a hassle if you're in a listed building. (You see the heritage people don't like anyone messing up old stuff).
Therefore it can be just as easy to run a wireless net for a few PC's and save on the expensive and more cumbersome task of running a few more Cat V lines. Also, the cost of labour in London is hideously expensive so wireless net's are sometimes a cheaper alternative to a new hub/switch and Cat V cabling.
OTOH there are some IT staff that just like playing with new stuff and can easily convince the people who sign the cheques that a wireless net it what the company needs, just 'cos they want to play with one.
Either way, wireless nets are a lot less hassle to implement, even if security could be compromised. Really is a sackable offense in my opinion to allow this to happen, but hey, so is using the 'net for 'non-business use'.
I think you may be exagerating the details a bit there mate. For starters there are very, very few two week waits for services out of the high density areas. 84% of all service calls logged in the bush are rectified in under 4 days. This is a distance thing, not a QoS thing.
Sure the lines are old, but not that old. The copper cables laid were put in to last for amny more years to come. In remote areas, copper cables link to 'satellite' centres and are up-linked to the rest of the network via fibre, microwave or satellite.
Like all things, it comes down to a business decision. There will never be fast or free access for the internet in remote areas. The return on investment does not justify the initial outlay when only 7 people in the town use it.
Yeah, He could have also used a spell check, or at least got someone else to proof read. I don't think his bio covers up for the fact that like the product reviewed, the review itself seems a little rushed and disjointed.
Congrats go out to all the boys on the Job in th Geek Compound.
On the Community nomination ICQ has a better community type presence (IMO), but how many ICQ users are going to know about the Webby awards? I think/. will win due to the high volume of active users.
I ended up in an Email conversation on just that after posting!
"> Mind you, I just had an idea... > > Imagine a site, something like slashdot, where people could post comments - > reviews if you will - on songs. Replace topics with genres of music, and > list the artists from each. Moderation would sort out the good ones from the > bad and the hard part of finding good songs would be no problem. All you > need is a server, some bandwidth, and a copy of slash, linux, modperl and > mySQL which would be relatively cheap and it would be worldwide. Then, all > you'd need is a couple of licensed broadcast centres in a few major cities > and your away. Data storage can be distributed or centrally located with > mirror sites, and the music (singles) could be free to download. > > Then all that's left is a source of income to pay for it all... Sponsors and > donations only go so far. You would then have to have a commercial source. > Selling the whole album for download is the immediate response but then that > destroys the whole point of starting an open music site/forum. It's kind of > a double edge sword when you think about it. Any further ideas? I'm out.
I suggest that you start with a static website that you or I could put up in a few days. We'd get a domain name, posiible from www.nic.cx/. Second we put a link to message board. Then we get a server and run something like www.squishdot.org which runs on zope. The reason I'm suggesting using a zope / python base rather than slashdot is because I hear it's easier to modify then the slashdot code, to the same aim though. Indeed the forum you want is what I've been looking for and I believe it is doable."
"When you listen to the radio, you listen to advertisements"
See, that's where your wrong. Some station do not advertise. Take for example government funded ABC (that's AUSTRALIAN broadcasting corp.) and their youth network, Triple J. No ads, great music. They pay a play license to the record label but to you or me, it's free to air.
This is my first post in ages, but this is an issue most people fell pretty strongly about.
Pirating CD's is not the answer.
The villans of the music world are, as stated, the record giants. They have more money than any artist, and have the marketing budgets similar to the GDP of a small nation. They have the power to buy their way up the chart for a "number one" single.
And where do they advertise their wares? On free to air radio. Let's face it, without FTA radio, no artist would ever get anywhere. You have to want the music to go and buy it. To promote the MP3, or net only, scene, we need - MP3 radio.
Australia's youth network, Triple J has an MP3 of the week section where artists can send their tracks and hopefully score some free airplay.
If we had a radio station that operated soley on this, there would be a number of pros and cons.
+ There would be no licensing issues + There would be no CD library, just a data vault + Songs are able to be called from the library without leaving the chair + The songs (or samples of) could me made available to the listeners
- You would haave to pay for some real bandwidth - Someone would have to go through the deluge of crap to find the gems. - You have to get people to listen... -...and to do that you need $
So when someone starts a MP3 broadcast radio station, that'll be the day the RIAA will actually take out more than a piracy legal suit, and the masses will rejoice.
The problem they are talking about is the cross cable traffic, not internet traffic. There is currently no metered data so long as you do not exit the cable WAN to the rest of the 'net.
What does it mean?
It means, for AU$65/month you get a 1Mb/s WAN link, regardles of distance, time or utilisation. That makes it about 100 times cheaper than ISDN, and about 500 times cheaper than a 2Mb frame link. It's safer, and more reliable, and so long as you don't turn off you box, you can run a Linux based router, with software firewall, on a 486 with cable connection for about three months on the same IP. IP changes? no biggy, just manually update your routing table and viola.
This is what the 20% (more like 5%) of people they're referring to are doing. I know, I suggested it to our Co. for a cheap alternative to Frame (Melborne/Sydney/Brisbane) plus, you get net access direct in each city.
I understand where they are coming from but they are going about it the wrong way. They should be metering traffic on a port to port basis, thereby selecting the difference between standard internet and mali et al traffic.
Light Sabers peak me out
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Actually, the site is peaking at a whopping 400b/s. Woohoo.
From what I can see it's a long glass tube with a form of plasma generated up the centre. That sucks. How can you put on old croaky voice "stike me down Luke". The thing would break in half!
Those bunker houses look pretty cool, but you'd want to get an elevator for decent access without going up and down 400 stairs every day.
BTW, a fully decked out 747SP (the short version like AF1) is about $240M. Corporate jets are never over $10M and even at $500/night, it takes a lot of nights to get to $290M, plus you don't have to worry about the mess you leave the room in.
etc, is the same price as 100 tons of used 7072 aluminium alloy. So, at about $25,000/ton, you'd have to expext to be paying $250,000 for a totally worn out airframe.
As for the tip top exterior, just wipe off the oil stains and paint over them!
I wouldn't worry about going the whole hog. As these planes drop out of service (at an astonishing rate mind you) the simulators that the operators owned will become obsolete just as quickly.
BTW a 727 sim is about 16x16 feet, and requires computers in about 18 7' racks to run it. Pity all that space has the power of your current Mac G4.
Yeah, I'd like to see that. The plane needs an angle-of-attack of about 1.5 to fly straigt and level at 0.79M (>400mph) and 33,000'. So, assuming this thing never cops a wind gust high enough to upset it's 1.5 angle-of-attack in a hurricane (which is what they're marketing the thing to hold out in), It could literally be 'flying' through the hurricane.
Now, in flight, a birdstike is like a speed hump, not much chop, mostly annoying more than anything else. A flock of birds is a little more dangerous, but not deadly. However a flying 36' yacht just may put a small dent in your lovely new house.
Oh, one other thing. These planes were all built between 1964 and 1972, and designed to safely last 10,000 flight hours. In 30 years, most of them have exceeded 30,000 hours and have had some sort of damage. For all this guy knows, it's held together by paperclips and he's just pulling them all out.
Use any PCL3 driver. The printer will still work. The printer specific drivers for windows are usually just a different picture so the user sees the printer they bought on the screen.
If you ever have driver trouble with a HP Laser, select LaserJet 4 - always works because it's straight PCL 5, no extra crap.
Slashdot Mirror
so what do you do about security on the LAN from one unit to the next? Can you browse unrestricted through all 400 apartments and play script kiddies or is there someone who will say "you're banned for a month" if you do?
Sounds like a good idea on the whole though. I was going to do the same with a flat and rent it to some students. "Free High speed 'net included in rent!" certainly adds more value than it costs.
Still looking for the right place to buy though...
Cable and DSL have very different infrastructures, so charges for a base rent are likely to vary widely, even between two similar services, depending on how populous the area is you living in, and how likely it is that there will be enough subscribers to warrant Cable TV/ADSL. It cost a cable company a lot of $$ to roll a cable down a few streets just to open a market for a few hundred subsribers, whereas a DSL company automatically has access to thousands of subsribers as soon as the telco DSL enables the telephone exchange - and every address in modern city has a copper pair for a telephone already installed. The backbone infrastructure is the same after that so data is the only cost once you have a few routers (admittedly big expensive ones for many broadband connections) have been set up. An ISP will simply rent an ethernet cable off their wholesale provider and co-locate some boxes to attach the routers to. It's that cable that draws the biggest monthly charge for an ISP, not the payment on the equipment - In my experience of course.
C'mon people. How many of you have unlimited downloads on cable or xDSL - all the time?
Charging for data is the only way an ISP can fairly doll out its data expenses, given that it's the way most ISP's are charged by their wholesale provider.
I'm all for a dead cheap ADSL monthly rent, and bandwith charges for every meg, so long as my ISP keeps it's rates fair to all, and plans it's charges in such a way that it won't go out of business in 18 months.
why does a brick and mortar office NEED wireless?
You'll find a lot of the buildings in th UK can be as old as 500 years, but mostly the office's in traditional buildings were built in and around the 1800's. This means that there is a whole lot of stone to drill though, or large sections of floor that need to be ripped up to run cables, and in some buildings this is just plain impossible.
So when an office in a building has say 24 points, and requires more (due to expansion, extra network printers, whatever), they sometimes need to obtain planning permission to put holes in walls, floors, etc. which can be a hassle if you're in a listed building. (You see the heritage people don't like anyone messing up old stuff).
Therefore it can be just as easy to run a wireless net for a few PC's and save on the expensive and more cumbersome task of running a few more Cat V lines. Also, the cost of labour in London is hideously expensive so wireless net's are sometimes a cheaper alternative to a new hub/switch and Cat V cabling.
OTOH there are some IT staff that just like playing with new stuff and can easily convince the people who sign the cheques that a wireless net it what the company needs, just 'cos they want to play with one.
Either way, wireless nets are a lot less hassle to implement, even if security could be compromised. Really is a sackable offense in my opinion to allow this to happen, but hey, so is using the 'net for 'non-business use'.
Dan.
Very much on the level, and very concise.
I think you may be exagerating the details a bit there mate. For starters there are very, very few two week waits for services out of the high density areas. 84% of all service calls logged in the bush are rectified in under 4 days. This is a distance thing, not a QoS thing.
Sure the lines are old, but not that old. The copper cables laid were put in to last for amny more years to come. In remote areas, copper cables link to 'satellite' centres and are up-linked to the rest of the network via fibre, microwave or satellite.
Like all things, it comes down to a business decision. There will never be fast or free access for the internet in remote areas. The return on investment does not justify the initial outlay when only 7 people in the town use it.
Yeah, He could have also used a spell check, or at least got someone else to proof read. I don't think his bio covers up for the fact that like the product reviewed, the review itself seems a little rushed and disjointed.
If you don't want to pay $14.95 for the CD, just look for a magazine with it on the Coverdisc - like PC world Feb 2000...
Congrats go out to all the boys on the Job in th Geek Compound.
/. will win due to the high volume of active users.
On the Community nomination
ICQ has a better community type presence (IMO), but how many ICQ users are going to know about the Webby awards? I think
Funny you should say that.
I ended up in an Email conversation on just that after posting!
"> Mind you, I just had an idea...
>
> Imagine a site, something like slashdot, where people could post comments -
> reviews if you will - on songs. Replace topics with genres of music, and
> list the artists from each. Moderation would sort out the good ones from the
> bad and the hard part of finding good songs would be no problem. All you
> need is a server, some bandwidth, and a copy of slash, linux, modperl and
> mySQL which would be relatively cheap and it would be worldwide. Then, all
> you'd need is a couple of licensed broadcast centres in a few major cities
> and your away. Data storage can be distributed or centrally located with
> mirror sites, and the music (singles) could be free to download.
>
> Then all that's left is a source of income to pay for it all... Sponsors and
> donations only go so far. You would then have to have a commercial source.
> Selling the whole album for download is the immediate response but then that
> destroys the whole point of starting an open music site/forum. It's kind of
> a double edge sword when you think about it. Any further ideas? I'm out.
I suggest that you start with a static website that you or I could put up in a few days. We'd get
a domain name, posiible from www.nic.cx/. Second we put a link to message board. Then we get a
server and run something like www.squishdot.org which runs on zope. The reason I'm suggesting
using a zope / python base rather than slashdot is because I hear it's easier to modify then the
slashdot code, to the same aim though. Indeed the forum you want is what I've been looking for and
I believe it is doable."
If only there were a Triple J in America, I wouldn't have to hear the same whiges over and over.
"When you listen to the radio, you listen to advertisements"
See, that's where your wrong. Some station do not advertise. Take for example government funded ABC (that's AUSTRALIAN broadcasting corp.) and their youth network, Triple J. No ads, great music. They pay a play license to the record label but to you or me, it's free to air.
Like I said, here
This is my first post in ages, but this is an issue most people fell pretty strongly about.
...and to do that you need $
Pirating CD's is not the answer.
The villans of the music world are, as stated, the record giants. They have more money than any artist, and have the marketing budgets similar to the GDP of a small nation. They have the power to buy their way up the chart for a "number one" single.
And where do they advertise their wares? On free to air radio. Let's face it, without FTA radio, no artist would ever get anywhere. You have to want the music to go and buy it. To promote the MP3, or net only, scene, we need - MP3 radio.
Australia's youth network, Triple J has an MP3 of the week section where artists can send their tracks and hopefully score some free airplay.
If we had a radio station that operated soley on this, there would be a number of pros and cons.
+ There would be no licensing issues
+ There would be no CD library, just a data vault
+ Songs are able to be called from the library without leaving the chair
+ The songs (or samples of) could me made available to the listeners
- You would haave to pay for some real bandwidth
- Someone would have to go through the deluge of crap to find the gems.
- You have to get people to listen...
-
So when someone starts a MP3 broadcast radio station, that'll be the day the RIAA will actually take out more than a piracy legal suit, and the masses will rejoice.
I can see the first three mail messages in each inbox now for the next seven days.
"Hey, I know of this great new porn site, www.xxxsteamingassholes.com. Check it out!"
- Sender, joebloggs@pornspam.com
and
"Here's your daily porn mail" w/file attached
- Sender, joebloggs@picsspam.com
and
"Get a new lease on life with the edgerizer mark 2! no more hair falling out..."
- Sender, joebloggs@spamsales.com
Oh yes, the joys of knowing an idiot's email address. What say we all send them a copy of SuSE?
The problem they are talking about is the cross cable traffic, not internet traffic. There is currently no metered data so long as you do not exit the cable WAN to the rest of the 'net.
What does it mean?
It means, for AU$65/month you get a 1Mb/s WAN link, regardles of distance, time or utilisation. That makes it about 100 times cheaper than ISDN, and about 500 times cheaper than a 2Mb frame link. It's safer, and more reliable, and so long as you don't turn off you box, you can run a Linux based router, with software firewall, on a 486 with cable connection for about three months on the same IP. IP changes? no biggy, just manually update your routing table and viola.
This is what the 20% (more like 5%) of people they're referring to are doing. I know, I suggested it to our Co. for a cheap alternative to Frame (Melborne/Sydney/Brisbane) plus, you get net access direct in each city.
I understand where they are coming from but they are going about it the wrong way. They should be metering traffic on a port to port basis, thereby selecting the difference between standard internet and mali et al traffic.
Isn't the base fee $95 now? Or did I read the article incorrectly?
I wanted BP cable, but apparently it didn't go down my street - at least Optus does.
more URL's to save the main page,
click below
Bic Shavers
Crest Toothpaste
Elmers Glue
Haagen Dazs Ice Cream
Ivory soap
Kiwi Shoe Polish
Mr. Clean
Oil of Olay
Quaket State Motor Oil
Skippy peanut butter
Tropican OJ
Click away, they're humerous to say the least.
Actually, the site is peaking at a whopping 400b/s. Woohoo.
From what I can see it's a long glass tube with a form of plasma generated up the centre. That sucks. How can you put on old croaky voice "stike me down Luke". The thing would break in half!
Isn't LegOS a programming thing for the Midstorms gear?
Those bunker houses look pretty cool, but you'd want to get an elevator for decent access without going up and down 400 stairs every day.
BTW, a fully decked out 747SP (the short version like AF1) is about $240M. Corporate jets are never over $10M and even at $500/night, it takes a lot of nights to get to $290M, plus you don't have to worry about the mess you leave the room in.
avionics or electronics
wiring
hydraulics
seats
galleys
engines
etc,
is the same price as 100 tons of used 7072 aluminium alloy. So, at about $25,000/ton, you'd have to expext to be paying $250,000 for a totally worn out airframe.
As for the tip top exterior, just wipe off the oil stains and paint over them!
An L1011 would be heaps better, short and fat.
I wouldn't worry about going the whole hog. As these planes drop out of service (at an astonishing rate mind you) the simulators that the operators owned will become obsolete just as quickly.
BTW a 727 sim is about 16x16 feet, and requires computers in about 18 7' racks to run it. Pity all that space has the power of your current Mac G4.
Yeah, I'd like to see that. The plane needs an angle-of-attack of about 1.5 to fly straigt and level at 0.79M (>400mph) and 33,000'. So, assuming this thing never cops a wind gust high enough to upset it's 1.5 angle-of-attack in a hurricane (which is what they're marketing the thing to hold out in), It could literally be 'flying' through the hurricane.
Now, in flight, a birdstike is like a speed hump, not much chop, mostly annoying more than anything else. A flock of birds is a little more dangerous, but not deadly. However a flying 36' yacht just may put a small dent in your lovely new house.
Oh, one other thing. These planes were all built between 1964 and 1972, and designed to safely last 10,000 flight hours. In 30 years, most of them have exceeded 30,000 hours and have had some sort of damage. For all this guy knows, it's held together by paperclips and he's just pulling them all out.
I'll stick to bricks and morter.
Use any PCL3 driver. The printer will still work. The printer specific drivers for windows are usually just a different picture so the user sees the printer they bought on the screen.
If you ever have driver trouble with a HP Laser, select LaserJet 4 - always works because it's straight PCL 5, no extra crap.