Well, in SFC's defence, Herbert didn't elaborate much on the Suk School and their conditioning either, just that it was unbreakable (and even that point he of course contradicted -- apparently "unbreakable conditioning" means "He won't do it unless it's really, really important to him")
Whoops! It's been a couple of years since I last read the book. Maybe I just have a mental blackout whenever a character named "Duncan" gets the chop.:)
It was an aside to the audience, as far as I could tell. Furthermore, did you notice that they ended each segment with a rhymed couplet? Somebody at the SciFi channel's been reading Shakespeare.
As for the Maud dib (sp?), yeah, I don't remember it being that early either.
I don't know why they can't flap. Herbert made a point of calling them ornithopters, instead of just aircraft or flyers or whatever, so obviously he liked the effect.
And while we're whining, why do both movies make the spice eyes glow? It's not as bad this time, but "blue-on-blue" doesn't mean "neon".
It's been a while, but IIRC Idaho lives on with the smugglers, plotting after Jessica, whom he believes to be the traitor (since nobody witnessed Yeui's actions and it was unthinkable for a Suk School doctor to break conditioning).
I'm sure the Aztecs ran a brutal empire. Based on the bits and pieces that the Spaniards didn't loot, burn, or destroy in religious fervor, it sure looks like it. It also looks like the consquistadores did their level best to leave no trace of that culture. Any Aztec speakers in your neighborhood? Anybody following the old gods? Anybody with even an Indian name?
We have little cause for pride here in the North, but to be chastised by an Hispanic for our failure to respect other cultures and languages is ironic indeed.
Maybe I've been misled. You're clearly an educated man -- can you name an AmerIndian who's known for something other than being killed by the Spanish? Can you name one who survived that invasion? Maybe one of those allies who helped the conquistadores was rewarded for their efforts. Maybe there was an enclave set aside, some place where non-Catholics might live in peace?
About 500 years ago a literate, educated, and sophisticated European culture clashed with empires that built cities of stone, had written records, was in many ways comparable with, say, Babylon or Sumer. Do you think it was an accident that these cultures now need to be deciphered from ruins? Do you think that the Spaniards didn't understand how important languages and records are?
Come on, the man apparently can't grasp the difference between copying and moving (upload our personalities to the Net indeed!) and you figured he'd get the other stuff right?
Maybe you don't see any positive effects, but it helps us Chicanos cope with the fact that our land was stolen from us and now it is our language and culture that you are trying to steal from us. What is so great about YOUR language and culture that you advocate me giving up my language and culture?
There was some very interesting "congealing" of French with English in the years following the Normon conquest of 1066AD, but the language remained essentially and recognizably English just the same.
Granted that my knowledge of this is based largely on having read Ivanhoe a bunch of times, but wouldn't it have remained essentially Saxon? I had the idea that English is a bastard child of both languages without really being either.
It sure doesn't sound like any of the Scandinavian languages to me.
It acquired it's rep when it was "owned" by the Roman Catholic church.
On a side-note, I've noticed references to Latin as a dead language because it hasn't changed. As it happens, since the Vatican comments on contemporary issues, Latin now includes terms for things like "rocket" and "nuclear bomb" and, I would imagine, "computer" and "web site". "Uploading" however, is still referred to as "ascension":)
OK, you're all thinking it, so I went and looked it up for you:
Vincent: Well, in Amsterdam, you can buy beer in a movie theatre. And I don't mean in a paper cup either. They give you a glass of beer, like in a bar. In Paris, you can buy beer at MacDonald's. Also, you know what they call a Quarter Pounder with Cheese in Paris?
Jules: They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with Cheese?
Vincent: No man, they got the metric system there, they wouldn't know what the fuck a Quarter Pounder is.
Jules: What'd they call it?
Vincent: Royale with Cheese.
Jules: Royale with Cheese. What'd they call a Big Mac?
Vincent: Big Mac's a Big Mac, but they call it Le Big Mac.
Jules: Le Big Mac... What do they call a Whopper?
Vincent: I dunno, I didn't go into a Burger King. But you know what they put on french fries in Holland instead of ketchup?
Jules: What?
Vincent: Mayonnaise.
Jules: Goddamn!
Vincent: I seen 'em do it, man, they fuckin' drown 'em in this shit.
Humph. I don't normally whine about moderation, but, but I think Farsighed and I were on the same wavelength here -- Their Satanic Majeties Request, Track 9, "2000 Light Years From Home".
It's not terribly germane, but at least I was no more OT than the parent to which I was replying.
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Thrift store, eh? Good for you. I'm trying to remember how many carts we made -- it was either 10,000 or 1,000, but I'm damned if I can remember which.
Either way, most of them probably got thrown into landfills.:)
So what you're saying is that you had to go through hundreds of carts before finally finding that little one-pixel Adventure? That's practically poetic.
God bless you, son. Of course, Wall Ball suffered from both disadvantages you mentioned -- it came out shortly before the market fell apart and it wasn't very good. I lost mine years ago when I was evicted from an apartment, and it wasn't until quite recently when a friend gave me his that I was able to show it to my younger daughter.
Sure, I'd shown her in emulation, but it's just not the same as a real Atari stick on a real TV (although the damn game had a bad habit of rolling on some sets -- I must have miscounted a cycle somewhere).
More curiousity -- did you buy it back in the day, or more recently?
Well, bunnies were certainly introduced, but IIRC they were released for sport. The mongoose were brought in to deal with snakes, and I think the cane toad was supposed to eat bugs, so both would be examples of "organic pesticides", if you will.
Here in the States we deal with Gypsy Moths every year, which were introduced in a sort of deliberate accident -- they were suppose to remain captive until cross-bred with silk moths, but slipped out with a forged note from home or something and have plagued us ever since. Starlings came here because some idiot wanted examples of every bird mentioned in Shakespeare.
There was an SF story I remember reading sometime ago, told in the form of letters from an ateroid miner or somesuch to his suppliers on Earth. He's trying to maintain a small biosphere and keeps bringing in new organisms to deal with previous ones -- I think it starts with ladybugs and ends with elephants. There are a fair number of SF readers here on/. -- can anybody jog my memory as to title and author?
Actually, zebra mussels were introduced by accident, as described here. Maybe you could substitute the mongoose in Hawaii, or the cane toad in Australia.
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Meteorite is the term you want to use
Not while it's heading toward Earth -- it's only a meteorite after (and if) it survives atmospheric entry.
The point being that a civil suit is just that -- civil. Inspite of the world-wide illusion that unhappy Americans invariably grab a cheap handgun to settle our differences, we often go to court instead.
The suit need not be for millions, It could be twenty dollars in small claims. The point is that this is how contract disputes are settled.
Of course, any self-respecting European nation would probably write a law about it and use their police powers to kick in the door, but we barbarians are too unsophisticated for that.
There's a trivia thing my daughter learned one day, that when Maggie gets scanned a pro-NRA message pops up on the cash register (I haven't bothered to tape and single-frame my way through it).
OT, has anybody used CueCat or whatever to read the barcode on Dark Angel? Does she scan as anything cool? I could maybe see it as a really subliminal Trojan ad.:)
You know, when the checkout girl at my supermarket got pregnant, we all said congratulations, and when she brought her daughter by the store we all oohed and ahhed and spoke to the baby like morons. Didn't make us groupies, just fellow humans welcoming another into the world.
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I look forward to the day when it's just handmade string and recycled tin cans -- the completely free Internet!
The OC bible? That raises the whole trouble with bringing Herbert to the screen -- all that backstory (never mind the introspection).
Well, in SFC's defence, Herbert didn't elaborate much on the Suk School and their conditioning either, just that it was unbreakable (and even that point he of course contradicted -- apparently "unbreakable conditioning" means "He won't do it unless it's really, really important to him")
Whoops! It's been a couple of years since I last read the book. Maybe I just have a mental blackout whenever a character named "Duncan" gets the chop. :)
As for the Maud dib (sp?), yeah, I don't remember it being that early either.
I don't know why they can't flap. Herbert made a point of calling them ornithopters, instead of just aircraft or flyers or whatever, so obviously he liked the effect.
And while we're whining, why do both movies make the spice eyes glow? It's not as bad this time, but "blue-on-blue" doesn't mean "neon".
It's been a while, but IIRC Idaho lives on with the smugglers, plotting after Jessica, whom he believes to be the traitor (since nobody witnessed Yeui's actions and it was unthinkable for a Suk School doctor to break conditioning).
We have little cause for pride here in the North, but to be chastised by an Hispanic for our failure to respect other cultures and languages is ironic indeed.
Maybe I've been misled. You're clearly an educated man -- can you name an AmerIndian who's known for something other than being killed by the Spanish? Can you name one who survived that invasion? Maybe one of those allies who helped the conquistadores was rewarded for their efforts. Maybe there was an enclave set aside, some place where non-Catholics might live in peace?
About 500 years ago a literate, educated, and sophisticated European culture clashed with empires that built cities of stone, had written records, was in many ways comparable with, say, Babylon or Sumer. Do you think it was an accident that these cultures now need to be deciphered from ruins? Do you think that the Spaniards didn't understand how important languages and records are?
Come on, the man apparently can't grasp the difference between copying and moving (upload our personalities to the Net indeed!) and you figured he'd get the other stuff right?
I dunno. What did you offer the Aztecs?
Gee, and all those years I thought tarheels wore rollerskates!
Granted that my knowledge of this is based largely on having read Ivanhoe a bunch of times, but wouldn't it have remained essentially Saxon? I had the idea that English is a bastard child of both languages without really being either.
It sure doesn't sound like any of the Scandinavian languages to me.
On a side-note, I've noticed references to Latin as a dead language because it hasn't changed. As it happens, since the Vatican comments on contemporary issues, Latin now includes terms for things like "rocket" and "nuclear bomb" and, I would imagine, "computer" and "web site". "Uploading" however, is still referred to as "ascension" :)
It's not terribly germane, but at least I was no more OT than the parent to which I was replying.
Either way, most of them probably got thrown into landfills. :)
So what you're saying is that you had to go through hundreds of carts before finally finding that little one-pixel Adventure? That's practically poetic.
Sure, I'd shown her in emulation, but it's just not the same as a real Atari stick on a real TV (although the damn game had a bad habit of rolling on some sets -- I must have miscounted a cycle somewhere).
More curiousity -- did you buy it back in the day, or more recently?
I take it you're referring to ICANN?
Just idle curiousity (don't get up and look) -- do you have a Wall Ball?
Here in the States we deal with Gypsy Moths every year, which were introduced in a sort of deliberate accident -- they were suppose to remain captive until cross-bred with silk moths, but slipped out with a forged note from home or something and have plagued us ever since. Starlings came here because some idiot wanted examples of every bird mentioned in Shakespeare.
There was an SF story I remember reading sometime ago, told in the form of letters from an ateroid miner or somesuch to his suppliers on Earth. He's trying to maintain a small biosphere and keeps bringing in new organisms to deal with previous ones -- I think it starts with ladybugs and ends with elephants. There are a fair number of SF readers here on /. -- can anybody jog my memory as to title and author?
Actually, zebra mussels were introduced by accident, as described here. Maybe you could substitute the mongoose in Hawaii, or the cane toad in Australia.
Not while it's heading toward Earth -- it's only a meteorite after (and if) it survives atmospheric entry.
The suit need not be for millions, It could be twenty dollars in small claims. The point is that this is how contract disputes are settled.
Of course, any self-respecting European nation would probably write a law about it and use their police powers to kick in the door, but we barbarians are too unsophisticated for that.
There's a trivia thing my daughter learned one day, that when Maggie gets scanned a pro-NRA message pops up on the cash register (I haven't bothered to tape and single-frame my way through it).
OT, has anybody used CueCat or whatever to read the barcode on Dark Angel? Does she scan as anything cool? I could maybe see it as a really subliminal Trojan ad. :)
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