Damn you Walt Disney!!! It's all his fault! There's a big Disney conspiracy to keep us off Pluto! As soon as Kennedy promised to go to the moon, BAM! he gets shot. And Bambi's mother got shot too! Coincidence? I think not! And the Challenger exploded because of the o-rigs! Do you see any "o"s in Walt Disney? NO! He knows that they're dangerous! No one can refute my proof! Walt Disney is still alive! He's hiding on Pluto! He's working with the aliens to take over the Earth! GHAAAAAAAA......
any life that might have evolved is going to either be very, very strong, or very, very short.
No, it'll be very, very, balloony looking. This planet is a gas giant (anything that big has to be) so it has no surface (not one life could live on anyway). Any life form would have to be able to float in whatever atmospheric layer it can survive in. If it goes too high, it asphyxiates, explodes, or gets poisoned. If it goes to low, it asphyxiates, implodes, or gets poisoned. A balloon is the most efficient way for a large organism to stay in a layer. This is pretty unlikely to happen, but if there is any life it will most likely have balloon-like structures.
I know the article doesn't say that the planet is jovian, but I'm pretty sure any solid planet that size would probably never form, and if it did, it would probably collapse and turn into a black hole or something. Or maybe it would generate a lot of heat? I'm to lazy to figure out the physics so I'll just shut up.
Should we educate them, and perhaps send religious missionaries?
I'll bet $5 that within 6 months of 1st contact that someone from the south (most likely Texas, because they have the most religious polititians) starts an organization to "save the souls of the aliens". I predict infomercials and media coverage.
I'll bet a further $10 that if that occours that the aliens will laugh in their faces and proceed to crush earth's fragile ego.
Then I predict humanity will befall the aliens and they'll all get drunk, start wars, and die in saucer crashes. And thus, the human over-ego will be saved.
The little bugs just get blown off the meteorite. Then they drift down slowly and land in a nice nutrient-rich puddle. And they lived happily ever after...
This isn't my flame war but that's not going to stop me!
And your theories rest on the lack of existence of a god.
They don't. Nothing rests on the non-existence of a god. God can't be proven non-existent. You could prove human beliefs about a god wrong, but the people could just be mistaken. There are no facts about God, so there is nothing to disprove, and conversely nothing to prove.
if it's illegal to say "Kill Bill Clinton" it should be illegal to wear a T-Shirt that says "Kill Bill Clinton".
If you say "Kill Bill Clinton" and then he comes to your town, the Secret Service will put you in jail until he leaves. Also, if you walk around in front of the White House with a "Kill Bill Clinton" shirt the S.S. will arrest you. I don't think they charge anybody though, and they let you go after you learn your lesson and they take your shirt. I wonder if Billy has a big box full of confiscated death threats? Now that's a souvenier! I'm going to run for president so I can get free shirts too!
Coming soon to CBS... BIG MARS SURVIVOR! 16 people locked in a simulated Martian colony on a frozen island with cameras in the bathrooms! Go to our gif-ridden website and vote to see who gets kicked out of the colony and forced to swim back to civilization. No sissy boat ride on this show! These people are SURVIVORS!
If the fad doesn't run out before we're done then we'll have part two: CBS EXECUTIVES ON THEIR WAY TO THE SUN SURVIVOR!
I think it's just an informal guideline. Every once and awhile they break it, like one episode of "ER" said sh*t. If you just go around spewing profanity the advertisers will stop buying ads from you though, not to mention getting flamed by moral people (they're so cute!). All the channels that do spew profanity, like HBO, don't have any ads. Maybe some states have laws about the dirty 7 though, probably Texas.
This story says that Pluto might have once been bigger than it is now. They say that perhaps the old Pluto had a collision with something else, causing Charon, (much like the theories of our own moon's formation, probably most big moons are made this way) the Kuiper belt, and the odd orbit Pluto has now. Maybe Pluto did cause the eccentricity of Neptune's orbit, it just did it when it was bigger.
(yes, tenth... one planet was destroyed and now orbits the Sun as dibris asteroids)
The asteroid belt was never a planet. They used to think that in the 50's or something, but it isn't. It's leftover debris (not dibris [i know, i'm being a grammar nazi but i can't help it {where did "grammar nazi" come from anyway? }]) from the formation of the solar system that was collected by Jupiter's gravity. There isn't enough space between Mars and Jupiter for a planet to have formed. All the debris needed would have been pulled apart by Jupiter's gravity before it could form. If Jupiter wasn't there a planet might have formed, though.
What about the exploration of Venus? then the moons of Saturn. And so on and so on.
Well, Venus has been explored quite a bit. There were Mariners 2&5 and some landers that melted. I don't think we have any materials (economical ones anyway) that could hold up to the heat on the surface. Most of the surface is mapped I think anyway.
They already launched Cassini (that nuclear thing that got people mad) which is going to drop a probe onto the surface of Titan, and do other stuff in orbit.
I agree with the last part. If you don't know anything about somewhere, you don't know what you'll get out of it. If you have to explain everything about somewhere before you explore it, you aren't going anywhere.
Jupiter and Saturn could actually be considered a brown dwarf star. Ganymede and Titan still wouldn't orbit Sol, but they could count as planets in a different system, or planets in a quintuple star system (Sol + the 4 gas giants/brown dwarfs).
Of course the monolith we dig up on the moon next year will turn Jupiter into a real star and everyone will know I was right... oh, wait, never mind.
They're using the FAT filesystem? Why? I believe that M$ is either switching to NTFS or merging them after Win ME right? I hope they wait for the 9x/NT hybrid before getting in too deep. It's risky to bet all this work on something that M$ could make obsolete by next year.
The earth will burn out long before the sun. If we don't get killed off by a supernova or an asteroid, we'll blow it up ourselves, either with nukes or something else. The really sad thing is that it's possible we're the only life in the universe. We could be well on our way to destroying all the life in the universe. I know it's pessimistic, but whatcha gonna do?
The proof comes when the Pizza Hut Marketing Battlestation rains lukewarm cheesy death across the globe and world leaders grovel before Pizza Hut's marketing department for mercy... Except for Russia that is. Is it just a coincidence that Pizza Hut fed Boris Yeltsin during the 1991 coup? They've been planning this for decades!
YELTSIN WILL RETAKE THE PRESIDENCY AND RULE THE WORLD WITH PIZZA HUT!
There's a book that I read who's title has slipped my mind that is about this very thing!
It's about a guy who used to work for an aerospace company but decided to help some people build a cold fusion reactor. They find out that there's H3 on the moon and the guy gets his buddies at the aerospace company to help him get it. They launch a rocket engine into space, then they hijack the space shuttle (which is legal due to some weird contract) and attach the new engine to it. Then they go to the moon, shovel in some H3, and go back. I think there's also an oil company conspiracy in there also.
Computer programming is a great educational tool in k-12 schools. The main purpose of early schooling is to mold children into good little citizens. That's why they have bells and exact schedules. That system was designed to create factory workers. We might not need factory workers as much now, but we still need drones who don't question orders to keep the world working. If everyone was creative and self-sufficient, we wouldn't be able to fight wars, and we wouldn't pay attention to the leaders who start them. Early computer programming can help the student's minds become more accustomed to strict regimens. Authority wants digital minds. That's why we have fairy tales with good and evil. That's why we have 2 parties. That's why we always need an enemy.
I ain't a lawyer but i think that if he actually killed an astronaut they could probably charge him with treason! Actually, if anyone was killed by a lapse in communication it would probably be in a collision. In this case, it would be Mir & the shuttle. That's at least a few billion dollars worth of damage and around 10 dead astronauts from a few different countries. The only obstacle to a charge of treason is that there would have to be 2 witnesses to the crime. But wheather or not they could make treason stick, he wouldn't get any pity from anybody and would probably get max sentances on every little thing they could hit him with. Of course it's all hypothetical and it's unlikely a comm break would cause any problem at all. The shuttle could probably dock with Mir without any contact with earth at all. In fact, I believe that the story said that all they lost contact with were the life sign monitors and other NASA stations on earth. But I digress, the point is: Kids, don't blow up anything worth more than a billion dollars or people won't want to be your friends anymore.
The problem with NASA using nuclear power sources (which would often be a better choice than solar or chemical sources) is that NASA is a federal agency, subject to the people who don't like the idea of launching radioactive stuff into the air. Nobody wants a space probe filled with plutonium landing in their backyard. Anybody remember that Cassini probe that they sent to Saturn? It had a nuclear battery and almost got canceled because of protesters. So anyway, NASA doesn't use nuclear stuff because it's tough to get public approval for Mars colinization if the masses think of Mars as being full of radioactive space wrecks.
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Damn you Walt Disney!!! It's all his fault! There's a big Disney conspiracy to keep us off Pluto! As soon as Kennedy promised to go to the moon, BAM! he gets shot. And Bambi's mother got shot too! Coincidence? I think not! And the Challenger exploded because of the o-rigs! Do you see any "o"s in Walt Disney? NO! He knows that they're dangerous! No one can refute my proof! Walt Disney is still alive! He's hiding on Pluto! He's working with the aliens to take over the Earth! GHAAAAAAAA......
any life that might have evolved is going to either be very, very strong, or very, very short.
No, it'll be very, very, balloony looking. This planet is a gas giant (anything that big has to be) so it has no surface (not one life could live on anyway). Any life form would have to be able to float in whatever atmospheric layer it can survive in. If it goes too high, it asphyxiates, explodes, or gets poisoned. If it goes to low, it asphyxiates, implodes, or gets poisoned. A balloon is the most efficient way for a large organism to stay in a layer. This is pretty unlikely to happen, but if there is any life it will most likely have balloon-like structures.
I know the article doesn't say that the planet is jovian, but I'm pretty sure any solid planet that size would probably never form, and if it did, it would probably collapse and turn into a black hole or something. Or maybe it would generate a lot of heat? I'm to lazy to figure out the physics so I'll just shut up.
Should we educate them, and perhaps send religious missionaries?
I'll bet $5 that within 6 months of 1st contact that someone from the south (most likely Texas, because they have the most religious polititians) starts an organization to "save the souls of the aliens". I predict infomercials and media coverage.
I'll bet a further $10 that if that occours that the aliens will laugh in their faces and proceed to crush earth's fragile ego.
Then I predict humanity will befall the aliens and they'll all get drunk, start wars, and die in saucer crashes. And thus, the human over-ego will be saved.
The little bugs just get blown off the meteorite. Then they drift down slowly and land in a nice nutrient-rich puddle.
And they lived happily ever after...
This isn't my flame war but that's not going to stop me!
:)
And your theories rest on the lack of existence of a god.
They don't. Nothing rests on the non-existence of a god. God can't be proven non-existent. You could prove human beliefs about a god wrong, but the people could just be mistaken. There are no facts about God, so there is nothing to disprove, and conversely nothing to prove.
Unless of course you find a Babel fish.
It's Steven Hawking. No 's'.
if it's illegal to say "Kill Bill Clinton" it should be illegal to wear a T-Shirt that says "Kill Bill Clinton".
If you say "Kill Bill Clinton" and then he comes to your town, the Secret Service will put you in jail until he leaves. Also, if you walk around in front of the White House with a "Kill Bill Clinton" shirt the S.S. will arrest you. I don't think they charge anybody though, and they let you go after you learn your lesson and they take your shirt.
I wonder if Billy has a big box full of confiscated death threats? Now that's a souvenier! I'm going to run for president so I can get free shirts too!
Coming soon to CBS...
BIG MARS SURVIVOR!
16 people locked in a simulated Martian colony on a frozen island with cameras in the bathrooms! Go to our gif-ridden website and vote to see who gets kicked out of the colony and forced to swim back to civilization. No sissy boat ride on this show! These people are SURVIVORS!
If the fad doesn't run out before we're done then we'll have part two: CBS EXECUTIVES ON THEIR WAY TO THE SUN SURVIVOR!
What about the "seven dirty words?"
I think it's just an informal guideline. Every once and awhile they break it, like one episode of "ER" said sh*t. If you just go around spewing profanity the advertisers will stop buying ads from you though, not to mention getting flamed by moral people (they're so cute!). All the channels that do spew profanity, like HBO, don't have any ads. Maybe some states have laws about the dirty 7 though, probably Texas.
This story says that Pluto might have once been bigger than it is now. They say that perhaps the old Pluto had a collision with something else, causing Charon, (much like the theories of our own moon's formation, probably most big moons are made this way) the Kuiper belt, and the odd orbit Pluto has now. Maybe Pluto did cause the eccentricity of Neptune's orbit, it just did it when it was bigger.
(yes, tenth... one planet was destroyed and now orbits the Sun as dibris asteroids)
The asteroid belt was never a planet. They used to think that in the 50's or something, but it isn't. It's leftover debris (not dibris [i know, i'm being a grammar nazi but i can't help it {where did "grammar nazi" come from anyway? }]) from the formation of the solar system that was collected by Jupiter's gravity. There isn't enough space between Mars and Jupiter for a planet to have formed. All the debris needed would have been pulled apart by Jupiter's gravity before it could form. If Jupiter wasn't there a planet might have formed, though.
What about the exploration of Venus? then the moons of Saturn. And so on and so on.
Well, Venus has been explored quite a bit. There were Mariners 2&5 and some landers that melted. I don't think we have any materials (economical ones anyway) that could hold up to the heat on the surface. Most of the surface is mapped I think anyway.
They already launched Cassini (that nuclear thing that got people mad) which is going to drop a probe onto the surface of Titan, and do other stuff in orbit.
I agree with the last part. If you don't know anything about somewhere, you don't know what you'll get out of it. If you have to explain everything about somewhere before you explore it, you aren't going anywhere.
Jupiter and Saturn could actually be considered a brown dwarf star. Ganymede and Titan still wouldn't orbit Sol, but they could count as planets in a different system, or planets in a quintuple star system (Sol + the 4 gas giants/brown dwarfs).
Of course the monolith we dig up on the moon next year will turn Jupiter into a real star and everyone will know I was right... oh, wait, never mind.
They're using the FAT filesystem? Why? I believe that M$ is either switching to NTFS or merging them after Win ME right? I hope they wait for the 9x/NT hybrid before getting in too deep. It's risky to bet all this work on something that M$ could make obsolete by next year.
The earth will burn out long before the sun. If we don't get killed off by a supernova or an asteroid, we'll blow it up ourselves, either with nukes or something else. The really sad thing is that it's possible we're the only life in the universe. We could be well on our way to destroying all the life in the universe.
I know it's pessimistic, but whatcha gonna do?
The proof comes when the Pizza Hut Marketing Battlestation rains lukewarm cheesy death across the globe and world leaders grovel before Pizza Hut's marketing department for mercy...
Except for Russia that is. Is it just a coincidence that Pizza Hut fed Boris Yeltsin during the 1991 coup? They've been planning this for decades!
YELTSIN WILL RETAKE THE PRESIDENCY AND RULE THE WORLD WITH PIZZA HUT!
Remember: Guns don't kill people: apes kill people.
-Charlton Heston
I will rise from the ashes like a Tuscon!
There's a book that I read who's title has slipped my mind that is about this very thing!
It's about a guy who used to work for an aerospace company but decided to help some people build a cold fusion reactor. They find out that there's H3 on the moon and the guy gets his buddies at the aerospace company to help him get it. They launch a rocket engine into space, then they hijack the space shuttle (which is legal due to some weird contract) and attach the new engine to it. Then they go to the moon, shovel in some H3, and go back. I think there's also an oil company conspiracy in there also.
If anybody knows the title put it in a reply, ok?
I will rise from the ashes like a Tuscon!
Computer programming is a great educational tool in k-12 schools. The main purpose of early schooling is to mold children into good little citizens. That's why they have bells and exact schedules. That system was designed to create factory workers. We might not need factory workers as much now, but we still need drones who don't question orders to keep the world working. If everyone was creative and self-sufficient, we wouldn't be able to fight wars, and we wouldn't pay attention to the leaders who start them. Early computer programming can help the student's minds become more accustomed to strict regimens.
Authority wants digital minds. That's why we have fairy tales with good and evil. That's why we have 2 parties. That's why we always need an enemy.
I will rise from the ashes like a Tuscon!
I ain't a lawyer but i think that if he actually killed an astronaut they could probably charge him with treason! Actually, if anyone was killed by a lapse in communication it would probably be in a collision. In this case, it would be Mir & the shuttle. That's at least a few billion dollars worth of damage and around 10 dead astronauts from a few different countries. The only obstacle to a charge of treason is that there would have to be 2 witnesses to the crime. But wheather or not they could make treason stick, he wouldn't get any pity from anybody and would probably get max sentances on every little thing they could hit him with. Of course it's all hypothetical and it's unlikely a comm break would cause any problem at all. The shuttle could probably dock with Mir without any contact with earth at all. In fact, I believe that the story said that all they lost contact with were the life sign monitors and other NASA stations on earth. But I digress, the point is: Kids, don't blow up anything worth more than a billion dollars or people won't want to be your friends anymore.
I will rise from the ashes like a Tuscon!
The problem with NASA using nuclear power sources (which would often be a better choice than solar or chemical sources) is that NASA is a federal agency, subject to the people who don't like the idea of launching radioactive stuff into the air. Nobody wants a space probe filled with plutonium landing in their backyard.
Anybody remember that Cassini probe that they sent to Saturn? It had a nuclear battery and almost got canceled because of protesters.
So anyway, NASA doesn't use nuclear stuff because it's tough to get public approval for Mars colinization if the masses think of Mars as being full of radioactive space wrecks.
I will rise from the ashes like a Tuscon!