The worst you'll do is just ignore me. I've been waiting two years for one additional IDE drive to be added to the "quirks" list in pdc202xx.c of the Linux kernel. The architecture of the file has changed, so someone's looking at it, but no one has bothered to listen to my very simple request.
The work is done. My request was to have a specific line added; I sent the actual line, my reasoning, and my configuration to both the individual maintainer and the appropriate list. I verified that the patch works before submitting it. This would be 30 seconds of work for the maintainer, with very little risk to anything else.
I never received any response at all after multiple submissions from multiple accounts. Nothing.
This has prevented me from really going with Linux for two years. My options are:
Add the line myself and recompile the kernel, after getting Linux up and running without the disk in question (in essence, spend 3+ hours installing, only to end up with a non-standard configuration (which some software refuses to install on)).
Stop using my Ultra66 controller, losing that performance gain.
Dump the problematic disk, and use a different one.
None of these options are attractive. I want to be able to just install Linux on my computer, as is, from a CD, without hassle. I still cannot do that, and no one is interested.
This is my experience with the open source "process".
Nielsen is a highly respected data-collection agency. They have very rigid standards regarding their statistical methods, to the point where their margin of error is something like 2-3%. They take extreme care in getting a fair sample of the population.
Your method would be unscientific, with an overrepresentation of TiVo and cable customers. And Farscape would still suck.
Pick the text apart all you like it makes ZERO difference. I think his intent was rather clear. If my interpretation differs from what HE meant, I'm sure we'll hear about it.
GooberToo got it. Again, more clearly:
Employees must speak English "well enough that I can't tell they are not native speakers." = BAD
Employees must speak English "well enough that they can communicate effectively as per their job requirements" = GOOD.
They are mutually exclusive. You are bypassing simple logic, blinded by your conviction that your pet term for "drivers of falsely enhanced cars" is worth fighting for.
As far as racism being a non-issue in the US today, that is complete nonsense. Consider that a major political leader was just ousted from his position because of his comments.
Your attempts at personal and racial attacks against me go along with the rest of your demonstrated ethic. It's offensive, you know it, and yet you will continue to use it. Happy New Year.
All I need to prove my point ("rice" is offensive) is to find one person that it offends. Each of those links had at least one person that was offended, generally accompanied by debate from both sides. The fact that there is a public debate about the issue proves that it is offensive to some. If nobody found it offensive, there would be no links or discussion about it. Being "outnumbered" does not apply.
Besides, you've clearly stated that you don't care who you offend. Which is it now, it's not offensive, or you don't care?
I don't give a fuck what your or my national origin is; that's immaterial to the argument. The term is offensive to some people, and has offensive roots. The fact that you know a few people that are not offended by the term does not scale to everyone.
As for your argument that you only use the term in the company of people that you know aren't offended by it . . . do you carefully check with each person within range before saying it? Including the vast hordes of Slashdot readers that may or may not have been reading our little discussion?
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Even NASA can't argue (from the article) blah blah blah
Blockquoting one segment of an article that supports your cause, then failing to reference the immediately following segment in the same article that refutes the original argument, does not add to your credibility. Allow me to help you out:
But Douglas McFarland, at South Dakota State University in Brookings, who collaborates with Mironov, disagrees. "Animal protein is a more balanced and complex protein than a plant protein," he argues. "The body would absorb and metabolise protein from a pill too rapidly. If you eat protein, then it takes more time to digest."
This is a perfect example of why groups like PETA are not taken seriously. Arguments should be based on ALL the evidence, not just those parts that are on "your side".
So . . . only ultra-l337 "information technology" "professionals" like yourself deserve spam protection? And as long as the "information technology" types can avoid it, there's not a problem?
I don't think to date, anyone has lynched someone driving a rice-car while screaming "Rice Boy!"
Murderous violence is not a prerequisite for racism. It's generally the other way around.
primary food staple of... you guessed it, rice. There are also Kraut-Rockets, for german cars, but do you go up in arms against that? Do germans find any offense to that? None that I know.
Your google reference is completely lacking, because only one page on the initial list supports it as a Racist term.
Precisely how many people need to be offended before you begin to care? Give me a number. How many people's feelings equate to your need to use a mildly humorous term?
Will it make you feel better if I tell you I'll be calling Japan in a few hours, after driving home from work in a Toyota?
Not slightly. Would it make you feel better?
Racism only works against people not cars.
Of course. The term "riced-up" refers to a car decorated in a style pioneered by a subculture of young Asian men in Southern California. The term "rice-burner" refers to a car built by Asian people. The point is, using "rice" in any way as a reference to Asians or Asian culture is a generalization that many find offensive. It doesn't matter if it's based in truth (i.e. most Asians like rice); generalizations do exist for a reason. However, it is offensive, and if you use it, you demonstrate that you don't care if you offend. That's your choice.
Even if you're using the term to refer to a white boy in a Mustang, the term still has its roots in racism. It may be watered down, but it's still poison.
In order for something to be racist, it has to mean something other than a slang label.
Wrong. Most racist slang has innocent roots. If it's offensive to the target group, and you know it, and you use it anyway, you are a bigot for using it. A marginal amount of googling for "rice racist" will reveal that the term does indeed offend. Be aware of this if you choose to continue using it.
Everyone is a racist in on form or another. I have seen it all over the world in many forms.
That's a sad way to rationalize away a problem. "I'm just one man, what can I do?" That doesn't make it any less of a problem here and now.
You probably get offended by the word 'Nigger' but blacks use it...
Far from the first time I've seen this logical fallacy . . . the same word can have different connotations in different circumstances. I don't get offended by the kind of usage you give as an example.
The Blacks nor Asians do not need another champion... really.
Who are you to decide that?
"Rice"-related Asian references are offensive to some people. Whether you choose to continue using them is up to you . . . just know that you may be offending some people by doing so.
...I have friends that are Asian and heard the term from them...
Just because you know some Asians that don't mind the term, that doesn't make it non-racist. It is offensive to some people. If you don't care, that's your bag . . . just be aware that it's racist.
The term "ricer" started from the motorcycle days of old when all the "rice-burners" came to the US.
Exactly. Back when racism against Asians was commonplace, 1) because of WWII, then 2) because American industry workers feared the loss of their jobs because of lower-priced Asian imports.
The cars are indeed laughable. The term, however, is racist.
I'd like to point out that "riced-out" is a racist term, in exactly the same way as "nig-rigged" or "kiked-up". Some other people are likely more sensitive to this than yourself.
Have their shiny colored computers boosted them "considerably" so far, or was it their generally good hardware architecture and cleanly-integrated OS? Sigh.
Their shiny-colored computers have boosted them more than anything else. Remember the first iMacs? That's when the great unwashed began to take notice of Apple again.
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Because I don't need to, and shouldn't have to. If I needed Linux I certainly would. As it is, that choice has left me using Windows 2000 instead.
The worst you'll do is just ignore me. I've been waiting two years for one additional IDE drive to be added to the "quirks" list in pdc202xx.c of the Linux kernel. The architecture of the file has changed, so someone's looking at it, but no one has bothered to listen to my very simple request.
The work is done. My request was to have a specific line added; I sent the actual line, my reasoning, and my configuration to both the individual maintainer and the appropriate list. I verified that the patch works before submitting it. This would be 30 seconds of work for the maintainer, with very little risk to anything else.
I never received any response at all after multiple submissions from multiple accounts. Nothing.
This has prevented me from really going with Linux for two years. My options are:
- Add the line myself and recompile the kernel, after getting Linux up and running without the disk in question (in essence, spend 3+ hours installing, only to end up with a non-standard configuration (which some software refuses to install on)).
- Stop using my Ultra66 controller, losing that performance gain.
- Dump the problematic disk, and use a different one.
None of these options are attractive. I want to be able to just install Linux on my computer, as is, from a CD, without hassle. I still cannot do that, and no one is interested.This is my experience with the open source "process".
Your method would be unscientific, with an overrepresentation of TiVo and cable customers. And Farscape would still suck.
You may not own it, but I hear it's pretty easy to 0wn it, d00d.
But where is ESR's biting commentary?
GooberToo got it. Again, more clearly:
You basically just said "no foreign accents". That's bigotry.
"Well enough that they can communicate effectively as per their job requirements" is more like it.
The true irony of this is that you don't even see the irony.
As far as racism being a non-issue in the US today, that is complete nonsense. Consider that a major political leader was just ousted from his position because of his comments.
Your attempts at personal and racial attacks against me go along with the rest of your demonstrated ethic. It's offensive, you know it, and yet you will continue to use it. Happy New Year.
Besides, you've clearly stated that you don't care who you offend. Which is it now, it's not offensive, or you don't care?
I don't give a fuck what your or my national origin is; that's immaterial to the argument. The term is offensive to some people, and has offensive roots. The fact that you know a few people that are not offended by the term does not scale to everyone.
As for your argument that you only use the term in the company of people that you know aren't offended by it . . . do you carefully check with each person within range before saying it? Including the vast hordes of Slashdot readers that may or may not have been reading our little discussion?
Blockquoting one segment of an article that supports your cause, then failing to reference the immediately following segment in the same article that refutes the original argument, does not add to your credibility. Allow me to help you out:
But Douglas McFarland, at South Dakota State University in Brookings, who collaborates with Mironov, disagrees. "Animal protein is a more balanced and complex protein than a plant protein," he argues. "The body would absorb and metabolise protein from a pill too rapidly. If you eat protein, then it takes more time to digest."
This is a perfect example of why groups like PETA are not taken seriously. Arguments should be based on ALL the evidence, not just those parts that are on "your side".
So . . . only ultra-l337 "information technology" "professionals" like yourself deserve spam protection? And as long as the "information technology" types can avoid it, there's not a problem?
If Microsoft gave a crap about Slashdot, that might apply.
nigger...isn't even offensive
This point isn't even worth arguing.
I don't think to date, anyone has lynched someone driving a rice-car while screaming "Rice Boy!"
Murderous violence is not a prerequisite for racism. It's generally the other way around.
primary food staple of... you guessed it, rice. There are also Kraut-Rockets, for german cars, but do you go up in arms against that? Do germans find any offense to that? None that I know.
"Kraut" is actually quite a negative term, comparable to "nigger".
Your google reference is completely lacking, because only one page on the initial list supports it as a Racist term.
Precisely how many people need to be offended before you begin to care? Give me a number. How many people's feelings equate to your need to use a mildly humorous term?
Will it make you feel better if I tell you I'll be calling Japan in a few hours, after driving home from work in a Toyota?
Not slightly. Would it make you feel better?
Racism only works against people not cars.
Of course. The term "riced-up" refers to a car decorated in a style pioneered by a subculture of young Asian men in Southern California. The term "rice-burner" refers to a car built by Asian people. The point is, using "rice" in any way as a reference to Asians or Asian culture is a generalization that many find offensive. It doesn't matter if it's based in truth (i.e. most Asians like rice); generalizations do exist for a reason. However, it is offensive, and if you use it, you demonstrate that you don't care if you offend. That's your choice.
Even if you're using the term to refer to a white boy in a Mustang, the term still has its roots in racism. It may be watered down, but it's still poison.
Wrong. Most racist slang has innocent roots. If it's offensive to the target group, and you know it, and you use it anyway, you are a bigot for using it. A marginal amount of googling for "rice racist" will reveal that the term does indeed offend. Be aware of this if you choose to continue using it.
I've got lots of 'em.
That's a sad way to rationalize away a problem. "I'm just one man, what can I do?" That doesn't make it any less of a problem here and now.
You probably get offended by the word 'Nigger' but blacks use it...
Far from the first time I've seen this logical fallacy . . . the same word can have different connotations in different circumstances. I don't get offended by the kind of usage you give as an example.
The Blacks nor Asians do not need another champion... really.
Who are you to decide that?
"Rice"-related Asian references are offensive to some people. Whether you choose to continue using them is up to you . . . just know that you may be offending some people by doing so.
Offense is in the eye of the beholder. Please don't assume your own sensitivity level is universal.
I really don't care who I offend.
That's what I want to hear. You know you use racist, offensive language and admit it freely. That is indeed your choice. Just don't pretend otherwise.
Just because you know some Asians that don't mind the term, that doesn't make it non-racist. It is offensive to some people. If you don't care, that's your bag . . . just be aware that it's racist.
Exactly. Back when racism against Asians was commonplace, 1) because of WWII, then 2) because American industry workers feared the loss of their jobs because of lower-priced Asian imports.
The cars are indeed laughable. The term, however, is racist.
I see. So if it doesn't offend you, as a white man, it doesn't matter.
I'd like to point out that "riced-out" is a racist term, in exactly the same way as "nig-rigged" or "kiked-up". Some other people are likely more sensitive to this than yourself.
Their shiny-colored computers have boosted them more than anything else. Remember the first iMacs? That's when the great unwashed began to take notice of Apple again.
You're an adult. It's different with children. The courts are quite clear on this.