Gaaarrggh!! ditto here. Then the e-trade bot says to me: RE: Public Offering Order RHAT. We were unable to allocate shares. Possible reasons: Offering priced above limit or high demand for shares.
I'm so sick of this, I'm almost glab it's over. I've never had anybody try so hard to screw me. Thanks for trying to do the right thing, Red Hat. I'll try not to be too bitter, although it makes me wanna cry that it's up over 200% right now.
There is some discussion on this issue from linux-kernel here.
The short version: It's possible to execute arbitrary code even if the stack is marked non-executable. Oh, and Alan Cox says Intel machines can't mark the stack non-exec anyway.
So your point may be true, but it's of limited value.
Lots of people here are confusing the "invited" group (those who got the email from Red Hat) with the E-TRADE customer group.
The "invited" group got an URL, username, and password to a place on E-TRADE that isn't linked to from their main page. This group can place their indication of interest _now_, and only competes for shares amongst the other invitees. E-TRADE knows who the email was sent to, so don't bother trying to sneak in.
Everybody else who's an E-TRADE customer is in the other group. This group *does* get a shot at the IPO, but you have to hit E-TRADE during a two-hour magic window, and then compete for shares in a drawing with everybody else in this group.
Thank you for your interest in participating in Red Hat's initial public offering. We are aware that you have recently not passed the online eligibility profile. Understandably, you are probably frustrated, especially if you feel you've entered a response in error.
We are required to determine whether a customer is suitable to participate in initial public offerings (IPOs), which are speculative in nature. Our online eligibility profile allows us to gather important information about your investment experience, goals and financial background, in order to determine your suitability in purchasing IPO shares.
If you feel you've entered your responses to the eligibility profile in error, please feel free to call us at 888-xxx-xxxx and use the PIN xxxx. One of our specially-appointed customer service associates will be happy to assist you in updating your profile.
Thank you, again, for your interest.
E*TRADE Securities, Inc.
Now, they wouldn't be telling us "lie this time so we can give you the stock and shut you guys up", would they?
Previous points made are (1) embedded devices don't need networking. OK, some don't, but some do. An embedded project I just completed needs tries to swamp a 100mbps ethernet connection. (2)too much code wastes batteries. OK, but not all embedded devices run on batteries, either. If the product is Industrial controls or pricey test equipment it's just not a factor. (3)Security doesn't matter in embedded systems. So don't use any. Linux can run all processes as root if you want it to. But, if I design a home automation system I will want some well-tested security code to keep the kiddies from turning on my sprinkler system in the dead of winter! (or worse, setting off the fire alarm.) uptime doesn't matter in embedded systems. OK, but what about industrial automation? Or even a tiny embedded print server? Sure, sometimes it doesn't matter. But for some projects it does.
I'm not trying to apply Linux to everything. You're trying to extrapolate from your cellphone to all embedded systems; that's not realistic.
There's lots of people out there doing this- some can be found on the linux-embedded mailing list. I've been trying to get a small group together to work on embedded linux bootloaders, tools, etc. mail to eds@reric.net if you'd like to contribute.
If Eric, Bruce, or anyone else in a highly visible position starts to do damage to the "Open Source" community they will simply be ignored and someone else will get a chance to speak. It's a good thing that nobody elected these guys to their position- it makes it easier to take away their power if they head off into the weeds.
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Gaaarrggh!! ditto here. Then the e-trade bot says to me:
RE: Public Offering Order RHAT. We were unable to allocate shares. Possible reasons: Offering priced above limit or high demand for shares.
I'm so sick of this, I'm almost glab it's over. I've never had anybody try so hard to screw me. Thanks for trying to do the right thing, Red Hat. I'll try not to be too bitter, although it makes me wanna cry that it's up over 200% right now.
You've gotta click "Send us an email", THEN click "other questions".
I hate [interviews] where the [subject's words] are getting [paraphrased] left and right by the [interviewer].
There is some discussion on this issue from linux-kernel here.
The short version: It's possible to execute arbitrary code even if the stack is marked non-executable. Oh, and Alan Cox says Intel machines can't mark the stack non-exec anyway.
So your point may be true, but it's of limited value.
Lots of people here are confusing the "invited" group (those who got the email from Red Hat) with the E-TRADE customer group.
The "invited" group got an URL, username, and password to a place on E-TRADE that isn't linked to from their main page. This group can place their indication of interest _now_, and only competes for shares amongst the other invitees. E-TRADE knows who the email was sent to, so don't bother trying to sneak in.
Everybody else who's an E-TRADE customer is in the other group. This group *does* get a shot at the IPO, but you have to hit E-TRADE during a two-hour magic window, and then compete for shares in a drawing with everybody else in this group.
Thank you for your interest in participating in Red Hat's initial public
offering. We are aware that you have recently not passed the online
eligibility profile. Understandably, you are probably frustrated,
especially if you feel you've entered a response in error.
We are required to determine whether a customer is suitable to participate
in initial public offerings (IPOs), which are speculative in nature. Our
online eligibility profile allows us to gather important information about
your investment experience, goals and financial background, in order to
determine your suitability in purchasing IPO shares.
If you feel you've entered your responses to the eligibility profile in
error, please feel free to call us at 888-xxx-xxxx and use the PIN xxxx.
One of our specially-appointed customer service associates will be happy to
assist you in updating your profile.
Thank you, again, for your interest.
E*TRADE Securities, Inc.
Now, they wouldn't be telling us "lie this time so we can give you the stock and shut you guys up", would they?
Previous points made are (1) embedded devices don't need networking. OK, some don't, but some do. An embedded project I just completed needs tries to swamp a 100mbps ethernet connection. (2)too much code wastes batteries. OK, but not all embedded devices run on batteries, either. If the product is Industrial controls or pricey test equipment it's just not a factor. (3)Security doesn't matter in embedded systems. So don't use any. Linux can run all processes as root if you want it to. But, if I design a home automation system I will want some well-tested security code to keep the kiddies from turning on my sprinkler system in the dead of winter! (or worse, setting off the fire alarm.) uptime doesn't matter in embedded systems. OK, but what about industrial automation? Or even a tiny embedded print server? Sure, sometimes it doesn't matter. But for some projects it does.
I'm not trying to apply Linux to everything. You're trying to extrapolate from your cellphone to all embedded systems; that's not realistic.
There's lots of people out there doing this- some can be found on the linux-embedded mailing list. I've been trying to get a small group together to work on embedded linux bootloaders, tools, etc. mail to eds@reric.net if you'd like to contribute.
Nice URL-- looks like it's reflected through a hotmail machine... (209.185.130.250) ?
Correct URL is http://www.msnbc.com/news/280218.asp
First they laugh at you,
then they ignore you,
then they fight you. -- you are here
Then you win.
Hey, 3/4 of the way home!
If Eric, Bruce, or anyone else in a highly visible position starts to do damage to the "Open Source" community they will simply be ignored and someone else will get a chance to speak. It's a good thing that nobody elected these guys to their position- it makes it easier to take away their power if they head off into the weeds.
http://partners.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelati ons/nonmember/acrosdk/docs.html
Pointy-clicky on the words "Portable Document Format Reference Manual Version 1.2".
The rest of your post is well thought out- misleading statements only detract from your point.