Hanna said that if they had any more problems with Page Creators, Registrars wouldn't do business with them any longer.
Wouldn't it be cool if we could blacklist people like this to the extent that they could never do business on the net again? Never register a domain, never host another page.. haha would serve people like him and those damn Microsoft nazis right. "What MS is charging $800 bucks for Windows 3000? Eh put 'em in the list!" Ahh visions of heaven dancing through my head
The point I was trying to make is that if you can't install it, maintaining it is a moot point. I have many times (in a crunch for.. well time) totally wiped a drive of Debian and installed a Mandrake or RedHat system just because it's easier to stick in an auto-install floppy and wait an hour for the install than to try and rebuild a Debian system from scratch.
That link should read http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
And personally, I'm very much in favor of this for advanced/experienced users. I think I might just re-do the front page of radicalmatter.com to include something where people can rate and comment about distros. Maybe we can line them up, rate them from newbie to bleeding edge, and review what's best and worst about each.
First to Squadboy, try re-reading my original post.
Second, there is a GUI running under Gnome, named appropriately Gnome-Apt, that does a somewhat decent job of maintaining Debian packages. However, you'd be hard pressed to convince me that dpkg, yast, whatever is simpler for INSTALLATION than an RPM based system.
What I took from the original comment, was that the installation of a Debian system is a lot more involved and complex than the installation of (yes)Red Hat or Mandrake or the like. With the importance of the term User-Friendly in the effort to take linux to the common desktop environment and build a user base that consists of more than tech-savvy geeks, Debian lacks a lot to be desired. I can bring copies of windows, the aforementioned RedHat and Mandrake and possibly a few other distros home to my parents house and they can install either without any input from me. The chances of them going to bestbuy, purchasing a Debian CD set, coming home and installing and actually becoming a member of the slowly growing list of *nix users are less than slim.
You'd be correct if the files handled by the Package Manager were of the type R. However the actual file extension/file type being RPM the correct term would be RPM package manager. Going along your train of thought, deb package manager would also be incorrect.
Debian is definitely not an easy distro to install, especially for beginners. But, IME the debian system keeps better track of installed components and dependancies, which could possibly make eveyday (un)installing much easier and streamlined for the average newbie.
I think that it would kinda suck to have that high quality of a display, considering anything you create graphics wise would probably suck on another display. think 1024 as opposed to 640... anything you sent to anyone else would be useless.
Also, creating images large enough to see them would dramatically increase the amount of storage space needed for (as mentioned above) anyone's porn collection. Just a thought.
Next thing you know you'll be deep inside enemy lines guns blazing.. You seem to notice a little flicker in your HUD, hear a little whisper over your headset or is there someone close to you. You look around, there's no one there. And you hear it again, more alert this time you can barely make out the sound Drink Budweiser and realize it's only a virtual advertisement.
I just purchased 2 Dell P3 800s with 128 megs of ram for my business, and I gotta tell ya, I have not seen any improvements over my older home built K62 500 with 96 megs of ram. Running Win ME or Linux either, the processing power just doesn't seem to be there.
So how long do you think before big blue announces their research leading to technology that will compress entire albums enough to fit on a single floppy?
There needs to be some sort of a "standards commitee" set up concerning the linux desktop OS. Being the proud father of a four month old bouncing baby company, I have little or no time to take charge and head it up (or any other insane idea like that) but I would definately contribute what I could. So someone needs to stand up and take the initiative. I'll donate space on radicalmatter.com for whatever type of site is needed to get it together. What can you contribute? email me at zecho@radicalmatter.com and I'll somehow get a list going.
I for one don't want anyone screwing around with my machine, hell my wife doesn't even touch it. Not that I have anything to hide really, and not that there are any illegal activities being committed with this machine. I want my privacy. No matter how many Jimmy Hoffa's are buried in my basement!
(Note to FBI: there are no Jimmy Anybodys buried in my basement)
You guys have no sense of reality.
Netscape (amonG other uNmentiOnable coMpaniEs) have been true to their latest revised plan since the very beginning.::To emulate the Windont's environment:: and they have been extremely successful at it. Netscape crashes on my Debian box at least three times a day, and I Kan Do Everything I want with those other apps. (except usually what I want, but that's not always bad is it?) So I don't really HavE any LInuX apps that aren't perfect. (Some AlMost BehAve like they are supposed to- uh sometimes).
What we need to do is set up a standards committee, a group of experienced linux users/coders who know the basic AND the advanced structures, etc. along with some basic users who can draft a set of standards along the lines of cross-distro compatibility.
NOT, I repeat NOT a governing body, but more a voluntary process by which each distro can proudly annouce "We're Linux2000 compatible" and the end user can look for the commitee's seal and know that when they purchase it, it's not going to be a waste of their money and time. They will be able to install it without great pains, and that the software they download, or the hardware they have will be compatible with ALL distributions that have passed the inspection process.
I've had this thought for a while and will put more time into it later. If you're interested in bouncing ideas around about it, email me
Does this mean that (if all goes well) the technology could be used to blend the stability of Linux with the availability of MS apps? With Big Blue's half hearted attempts at putting out Linux desktops/laptops, this might be a sign of good things coming down the road?
That'd be great as long as it doesn't turn out like usenet. Not that usenet's a bad thing, I just don't want to be limited to the websites my ISP or their's decides to carry.
..that indeed MS is examining certain parts of the source code to linux. From what I understand, they have exhausted their supply of Mac source code and are in need of YET ANOTHER OS to rip off!
..what the hold-up is on this technology? Why can they not just bump us up a little on the frequency and let us connect from the cell towers that are already perched pretty much everywhere? I don't have any details myself, but checking my email on the cell phone doesn't seem to require much effort.
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Hanna said that if they had any more problems with Page Creators, Registrars wouldn't do business with them any longer.
Wouldn't it be cool if we could blacklist people like this to the extent that they could never do business on the net again? Never register a domain, never host another page.. haha would serve people like him and those damn Microsoft nazis right. "What MS is charging $800 bucks for Windows 3000? Eh put 'em in the list!"
Ahh visions of heaven dancing through my head
The point I was trying to make is that if you can't install it, maintaining it is a moot point. I have many times (in a crunch for .. well time) totally wiped a drive of Debian and installed a Mandrake or RedHat system just because it's easier to stick in an auto-install floppy and wait an hour for the install than to try and rebuild a Debian system from scratch.
That link should read
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
And personally, I'm very much in favor of this for advanced/experienced users. I think I might just re-do the front page of radicalmatter.com to include something where people can rate and comment about distros. Maybe we can line them up, rate them from newbie to bleeding edge, and review what's best and worst about each.
Try rereading my post again! Uh huh!
First to Squadboy, try re-reading my original post.
Second, there is a GUI running under Gnome, named appropriately Gnome-Apt, that does a somewhat decent job of maintaining Debian packages. However, you'd be hard pressed to convince me that dpkg, yast, whatever is simpler for INSTALLATION than an RPM based system.
Yeah me too!
AC who would have guessed? LMAO
What I took from the original comment, was that the installation of a Debian system is a lot more involved and complex than the installation of (yes)Red Hat or Mandrake or the like. With the importance of the term User-Friendly in the effort to take linux to the common desktop environment and build a user base that consists of more than tech-savvy geeks, Debian lacks a lot to be desired. I can bring copies of windows, the aforementioned RedHat and Mandrake and possibly a few other distros home to my parents house and they can install either without any input from me. The chances of them going to bestbuy, purchasing a Debian CD set, coming home and installing and actually becoming a member of the slowly growing list of *nix users are less than slim.
You'd be correct if the files handled by the Package Manager were of the type R. However the actual file extension/file type being RPM the correct term would be RPM package manager. Going along your train of thought, deb package manager would also be incorrect.
Debian is definitely not an easy distro to install, especially for beginners. But, IME the debian system keeps better track of installed components and dependancies, which could possibly make eveyday (un)installing much easier and streamlined for the average newbie.
...a standards comittee!
How is this related to plasma screens?
I think that it would kinda suck to have that high quality of a display, considering anything you create graphics wise would probably suck on another display. think 1024 as opposed to 640... anything you sent to anyone else would be useless.
Also, creating images large enough to see them would dramatically increase the amount of storage space needed for (as mentioned above) anyone's porn collection. Just a thought.
Next thing you know you'll be deep inside enemy lines guns blazing.. You seem to notice a little flicker in your HUD, hear a little whisper over your headset or is there someone close to you. You look around, there's no one there. And you hear it again, more alert this time you can barely make out the sound Drink Budweiser and realize it's only a virtual advertisement.
I just purchased 2 Dell P3 800s with 128 megs of ram for my business, and I gotta tell ya, I have not seen any improvements over my older home built K62 500 with 96 megs of ram. Running Win ME or Linux either, the processing power just doesn't seem to be there.
..no one has come up with a more perfect way to cull the good from the bad.
So how long do you think before big blue announces their research leading to technology that will compress entire albums enough to fit on a single floppy?
There needs to be some sort of a "standards commitee" set up concerning the linux desktop OS. Being the proud father of a four month old bouncing baby company, I have little or no time to take charge and head it up (or any other insane idea like that) but I would definately contribute what I could. So someone needs to stand up and take the initiative. I'll donate space on radicalmatter.com for whatever type of site is needed to get it together. What can you contribute? email me at zecho@radicalmatter.com and I'll somehow get a list going.
I for one don't want anyone screwing around with my machine, hell my wife doesn't even touch it. Not that I have anything to hide really, and not that there are any illegal activities being committed with this machine. I want my privacy. No matter how many Jimmy Hoffa's are buried in my basement!
(Note to FBI: there are no Jimmy Anybodys buried in my basement)
You guys have no sense of reality. Netscape (amonG other uNmentiOnable coMpaniEs) have been true to their latest revised plan since the very beginning. ::To emulate the Windont's environment:: and they have been extremely successful at it. Netscape crashes on my Debian box at least three times a day, and I Kan Do Everything I want with those other apps. (except usually what I want, but that's not always bad is it?) So I don't really HavE any LInuX apps that aren't perfect. (Some AlMost BehAve like they are supposed to- uh sometimes).
What we need to do is set up a standards committee, a group of experienced linux users/coders who know the basic AND the advanced structures, etc. along with some basic users who can draft a set of standards along the lines of cross-distro compatibility.
NOT, I repeat NOT a governing body, but more a voluntary process by which each distro can proudly annouce "We're Linux2000 compatible" and the end user can look for the commitee's seal and know that when they purchase it, it's not going to be a waste of their money and time. They will be able to install it without great pains, and that the software they download, or the hardware they have will be compatible with ALL distributions that have passed the inspection process.
I've had this thought for a while and will put more time into it later.
If you're interested in bouncing ideas around about it, email me
Does this mean that (if all goes well) the technology could be used to blend the stability of Linux with the availability of MS apps? With Big Blue's half hearted attempts at putting out Linux desktops/laptops, this might be a sign of good things coming down the road?
That'd be great as long as it doesn't turn out like usenet. Not that usenet's a bad thing, I just don't want to be limited to the websites my ISP or their's decides to carry.
..that indeed MS is examining certain parts of the source code to linux. From what I understand, they have exhausted their supply of Mac source code and are in need of YET ANOTHER OS to rip off!
..what the hold-up is on this technology? Why can they not just bump us up a little on the frequency and let us connect from the cell towers that are already perched pretty much everywhere? I don't have any details myself, but checking my email on the cell phone doesn't seem to require much effort.
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