Recent (now suppressed) *Chinese government* studies have shown that over 80 million people died in "The Great Leap Forward" and "The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution".
To date, no real admissions have been made. The recent 'improvements' have been superficial. China still runs huge prison camps with millions of slave laborers, many incarcerated without trial, (and trials in China are often shams) and keeps millions of its citizens in a second-class citizenship internal-exile 'peasant' status, and these people are prohibited from moving or getting good jobs..and if they do try to move to cities, they have no legal rights..
Plus, China sends tens of thousands of starving North Korean refugees back to North Korea (often to be summarily executed for the 'treason' of trying to flee Kim Jong Il's 'paradise'.) in violation of international law..
Birds of a feather, flock together...
(North Korea is, by far, the WORST human rights situation on Earth)
And they also execute thousands of people a year, more than any other country, (except for North Korea) and sell their organs.. Often, they do a tissue match first, and execute the prisoners with the best match.. Isn't that creepy?
Whoever says China is not a country with barbaric human rights practices..
man, that is some serious denial going on...
I don't think that the trend to outsource jobs will continue past a certain point. Why? Because jobs like tech support and sysadmin work and many, many others will eventually be done by expert systems or robots. They will not require human intervention. Most of the physical jobs that are nowadays done by human beings will be done by robots. Like it or not, it is more efficient that way.
In the future, most of us will not have to work, our society will still produce as much or more than it does now. How we choose to deal with that as a society is up to us.. I would suggest volunteering (if you can afford it) And don't judge yourself on 'what you do' but rather 'who you are'.
Remember, Corporations or governments have no obligation to support you. You have to sell yourself. Invent new jobs if you need them.
(I suspect that society will adjust)
It will have to, or there will be major social unrest.
The corporate world doesnt owe you a job. In fact, its the duty of corporations to their shareholders to buy your work (or not buy it) for as little as possible. The ideal corporation of the future will have zero employees and will run itself. Thats 100% efficiency.
Doesn't that make you happy?
Just another 'gift' from the Republicans, greedy
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In third world countries the rich are really rich and the poor are REALLY poor (and by far, most people are poor)
The way we seem to be losing our rights and standard of living in leaps and bounds, looks like the US may become a third world country soon.. -throwing away over two hundred years of progress..
Poor people never make overtime or get paid vacations.. In fact, many of them work 80 hours a week just to eat. Third world countries make VERY profitable places for business.
Someone complains- kill them..
Thats why the 'neoconservatives' want the US to be like them.
Israel is seriously hurt by its extremists because all the vast majority of Palestinians want is the same thing everyone wants, dignity, peace and the right to live peaceably with their families, on their land.
Terrorists are a tiny minority but the Israelis strenghthen their hand by the way they treat Palestinians.. Their goal is basically to force them to leave..ethnic cleansing.. They have admitted this..many times.. And they have killed 4 times as many Palestinians than Palestinians have killed Israelis.. mostly civilians..children, etc.. There is no moral high ground..
Ethnic cleansing (moving people off of their land in order to replace them with another ethnic group) is illegal under international law.
Apartheid didnt fly in South Africa and it wont fly in the Middle East. That is why I suggest that any Israelis reading be nice to the Palestinians or it will come back to haunt you later. Why are they so greedy? There is enough land for both groups.. But Israel seems to want it all..
"Do onto others what you would have them do unto you" Thats the golden rule..
For some background on what is basically the big land grab see this URL - Check out the map - it speaks for itself.. You may wonder why you never saw this map before.. well, there's a reason. The US media doesnt want people to see this very basic fundamental information.. Why?
And I'm a Democrat.
It's mostly because of his work trying to improve human rights in North Korea. For a glimpse at this see yesterdays Senate hearing on "Life in North Korea" at this URL.:
rtsp://video.webcastcenter.com/srs_g2/foreign06050 3.rm
Now if we can only get him to fight for the "breaking the information blockade by dropping radios" idea.
See
http://www.freenorthkorea.net
North Korea can be freed without war.. Lets do it!
There is no direct Internet in North Korea except for one, tiny cybercafe that costs around a years salary for three minutes and is open to foreigners only..
A person I know who travels regularly to North Korea tells me that effectively there is no Internet in North Korea. The colleges have an 'intranet' of sorts, but it is not connected to the outside world. There are no sites in the world that use North Korea's Internet domain..
Read
The Official Propaganda In The DPRK: Ideas And Methods
and
The Repressive System And The Political Control In North Korea
TygerFish is right. And those episodes are only the tip of the iceberg. If you think the bizarre story of Japan's Om cult a few years ago is strange, wait till the wall around North Korea crumbles.. some of the stories coming out of there will make you scream.. Its a similar situation, North Korea is basically a cult. Some high(?)lights.
1.) The brainwashing of millions of people to worship their leaders as gods.. (not like gods, AS gods) 2.) The nerve of Kim Jong-Il to set up a huge pimping system to furnish him with thousands of the prettiest women from all of the high schools in the country to provide him with various forms of satisfaction, including sexual.. (The so-called 'Pleasure Team') 3.) The bizarre North Korean negotiating technique that effectively uses the entire countries population as hostages..
North Korea is trying to teach some level of computer skills to its elite students. But for most North Koreans college is out of reach.. getting in depends on your having what Chinese would call 'good family background'
Read this explanation from the South Korean NIS: http://www.koreascope.org/newdocs/etext/sub/ 2/1/nk 4_3.htm
- Ideological Surveillance, and the Classification of the People
In order to facilitate its dictatorial system, the North Korean Workers' Party conducted full-scale ideological investigations on every individual citizen in North Korea twice under the name of the so-called "intensive guidance project" (1958-1960) and the "citizens re-registration project" (1966-1967). Based on the results of these investigations, the North Korean ruling hierarchy in February 1971 completed the work of classifying the entire populace into 3 main groups, and then again into 51 sub-groups.
The classification is as follows: The Classification Main Groups
Sub-Groups
Treatment
The Core Group
(28%)
(12 sub-groups) Party cadre official,bereaved familiesof partisans, war heroes and their family members, etc.
0 Qualification for becoming cadres in the Party,Gov't and the military.
0 Better treatment in receiving the ration of food and daily necessities
The Instable Group
(45%)
(18 sub-groups) General populace
0 Qualification for becoming low-ranking Officials
0 A chance to be reclassified into the core group
The Hostile Group
(27%)
(21 sub-groups) Former religious believers, landlords and government officials during Japanese colonial rule, families of those who defectedto the Republic of Korea, ideological criminals and their family members.
0 Forced labor in remote places 0 No qualification for becoming Party members
0 No chance to enter colleges
0 A chance for only children to bereclassified into the instable group
Basically their mid-range Linux machines have better I/O than anything else in their price class, and they scale better than any other computer available with an almost linear relation of processors to performance.
That has been a Holy Grail for hardware designers ever since multiprocessor machines were first invented.
IMO SGI's Linux boxen are the fastest Linux machines available anywhere, at any price..
Okay, there are about a zillion reasons why this cant fly.. I remember using "frames" in lots of DOS programs, and the pioneering Community Memory project in Berkeley, and the early hypertext terminals on BART in the early 80s. Prior Art bigtime.. But the real killer argument is that by not trying to defend 'their patent' when frames first arrived on the scene (1995) they have essentially given up on it.. The patent is obviously crap, but their not defending for over eight years makes it even more crap. Hell they even ADVERTISED on framed web sites WITHOUT SUING.
We are using the least accurate of possible voting systems, the plurality system. That is one of the reasons why the last election went the way it did. Our system is the worst possible, the one most likely to produce anomalies that do not reflect the will of the people. We need a preference-weighted voting system that prevents votes from being wasted if one's first choice candidate does not win. Like the "Borda Count" method. Many other countries are going this way. Most scientists and mathematicians agree.
And the bottom line is that as Americans, to some great extent, we are all in it together. The way to deal with the NSA's many indisgressions is to constructively criticize. the bottom line is that every world power needs resources like the NSA.
Don't think so? Imagine that the nazis had wome World War II. Or Stalin won the cold war. The world we live in would look *very* different today. And it is cold hard reality that the NSA spends a lot of money supporting cryptography education. That is money that is supporting cryptography research of all kinds, for everybody, not just Americans . The international scientific community.
Does that tell you something? People who have something constructive to say, should get involved in the debate on the NSA on some level and maybe in a generation or so, we will have something that we can all be proud of..
They need good people with morals and brains, too.
In any case, for right now, I might disagree with much of what they do, but I am glad they exist.
This is a very astute observation. I agree with you 100%. The reasons these so called 'established' institutions feel threatened is because they add no value, they only control a flow which would be better off free. For example, the SEC tried (and failed) to prosecute Lebed for a 'crime' which the big stockbrokers commit all of the time (and badly at that..) promoting stocks they have an interest in. If you don't believe me, read the results of a few surveys that have tracked what would have happened to an investor who followed all of their 'recommendations'. He/she would have lost. Big. And the recipients of Lebed's advice, made money. Big. Who is 'better'? Who made more money for the 'fat cats'? Guess!
Ch-Ching!!! We Lose!
But I'm getting away from the real point. Yes, its truly a cliche, but its also true.. Information wants to be free.. And information = freedom, eventually.
Thanks to the web, these institutions now don't have a stranglehold on information. They only control 99%. But they are scared because they *know* that if even 1% of what they are doing becomes known, they are doomed.. Because they are evil. And especially because they are (often) parasites..
The so-called 'established institutions' are ultimately fragile because they are parasites sucking the lifeblood of all of us.. Like the RIAA, they add no value to life or the world.. they only restrict the inevitable..the 'magic of the marketplace' *laugh* can replace.. them.. too. And they know it.
politicians take notice..
It is not the 15 year olds who are changing things.. They just are the ones who don't know how to keep it quiet. *laugh*
For now..
Boo!
15 year olds are like the child in "The Emperors New Clothes", they will admit what others only think. And eventually we all win when the stale and haughty fatcat institutions crumble..
Honestly, you are fooling yourself. I doubt if you have ever travelled in Third World countries. These people are usually normal people like yourself. They don't live like animals. They have homes, watches, lives like you. They just don't happen to be american. I'm sorry, but you are engaging in the long tradition of rationalization. De-humanize the victims. Blame the victims.
If this problem exists, we have to address it. The best we can. Thats all there is to it. Otherwise we are commiting a terrible crime.
"They then decide that they need to charge $1,000 for a course of the treatment, but the actual direct costs of production are
$50. "
I've heard that the actual cost of producing a year's supply of AZT is around $0.11.
That's right, eleven cents.
All I can say is that these people who are defying the pharmaceutical companies and the US government to manufacture these drugs are real-life heroes. These are life-or-death issues, and people can't ignore them. The US should take the lead and make it clear to the pharmaceutical 'giants' that their social contract with *americans* depends on how they behave in the third world. When those who need them are poor, they should be giving these drugs away. Let them make money in other ways. Or they don't deserve our protection. Let them set up their corporations in some other country, behavior like this makes me ashamed to be an American.:-( (TM)
Some Space Elevator / Synchronous Skyhook / refs..
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There are some interesting refs available on the web which I havent seen listed...
Slashdot Mirror
Come join the fun!
( http://www.freenorthkorea.net/archives/freenorthko rea/cat_breaking_the_information_blockade.html )
Information NEEDS to be FREE!
Recent (now suppressed) *Chinese government* studies have shown that over 80 million people died in "The Great Leap Forward" and "The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution". To date, no real admissions have been made. The recent 'improvements' have been superficial. China still runs huge prison camps with millions of slave laborers, many incarcerated without trial, (and trials in China are often shams) and keeps millions of its citizens in a second-class citizenship internal-exile 'peasant' status, and these people are prohibited from moving or getting good jobs..and if they do try to move to cities, they have no legal rights..
Plus, China sends tens of thousands of starving North Korean refugees back to North Korea (often to be summarily executed for the 'treason' of trying to flee Kim Jong Il's 'paradise'.) in violation of international law..
Birds of a feather, flock together... (North Korea is, by far, the WORST human rights situation on Earth)
And they also execute thousands of people a year, more than any other country, (except for North Korea) and sell their organs.. Often, they do a tissue match first, and execute the prisoners with the best match.. Isn't that creepy?
Whoever says China is not a country with barbaric human rights practices.. man, that is some serious denial going on...
I don't think that the trend to outsource jobs will continue past a certain point. Why? Because jobs like tech support and sysadmin work and many, many others will eventually be done by expert systems or robots. They will not require human intervention. Most of the physical jobs that are nowadays done by human beings will be done by robots. Like it or not, it is more efficient that way.
In the future, most of us will not have to work, our society will still produce as much or more than it does now. How we choose to deal with that as a society is up to us.. I would suggest volunteering (if you can afford it) And don't judge yourself on 'what you do' but rather 'who you are'.
Remember, Corporations or governments have no obligation to support you. You have to sell yourself. Invent new jobs if you need them.
(I suspect that society will adjust)
It will have to, or there will be major social unrest.
Have a pleasant ride!
The corporate world doesnt owe you a job. In fact, its the duty of corporations to their shareholders to buy your work (or not buy it) for as little as possible. The ideal corporation of the future will have zero employees and will run itself. Thats 100% efficiency.
Doesn't that make you happy?
In third world countries the rich are really rich and the poor are REALLY poor (and by far, most people are poor)
The way we seem to be losing our rights and standard of living in leaps and bounds, looks like the US may become a third world country soon.. -throwing away over two hundred years of progress..
Poor people never make overtime or get paid vacations.. In fact, many of them work 80 hours a week just to eat. Third world countries make VERY profitable places for business.
Someone complains- kill them..
Thats why the 'neoconservatives' want the US to be like them.
Thank you,
Glorious FauxPresidente George BushCo!
I worship at your greedy shrine...
Terrorists are a tiny minority but the Israelis strenghthen their hand by the way they treat Palestinians.. Their goal is basically to force them to leave..ethnic cleansing.. They have admitted this..many times.. And they have killed 4 times as many Palestinians than Palestinians have killed Israelis.. mostly civilians..children, etc.. There is no moral high ground..
Ethnic cleansing (moving people off of their land in order to replace them with another ethnic group) is illegal under international law.
Apartheid didnt fly in South Africa and it wont fly in the Middle East. That is why I suggest that any Israelis reading be nice to the Palestinians or it will come back to haunt you later. Why are they so greedy? There is enough land for both groups.. But Israel seems to want it all..
"Do onto others what you would have them do unto you" Thats the golden rule..
For some background on what is basically the big land grab see this URL - Check out the map - it speaks for itself.. You may wonder why you never saw this map before.. well, there's a reason. The US media doesnt want people to see this very basic fundamental information.. Why?
The Palestinian land is broken up into hundreds of non-contiguous little plots..with Israel holding the high ground, the aquifers, the roads, almost everything of value.. See the map at the URL below.. http://www.btselem.org/English/Publications/Summar ies/Land_Grab_Map.asp
Peace!
And I'm a Democrat. It's mostly because of his work trying to improve human rights in North Korea. For a glimpse at this see yesterdays Senate hearing on "Life in North Korea" at this URL.: rtsp://video.webcastcenter.com/srs_g2/foreign06050 3.rm
Now if we can only get him to fight for the "breaking the information blockade by dropping radios" idea.
See
http://www.freenorthkorea.net
North Korea can be freed without war.. Lets do it!
There is no direct Internet in North Korea except for one, tiny cybercafe that costs around a years salary for three minutes and is open to foreigners only.. A person I know who travels regularly to North Korea tells me that effectively there is no Internet in North Korea. The colleges have an 'intranet' of sorts, but it is not connected to the outside world. There are no sites in the world that use North Korea's Internet domain.. Read The Official Propaganda In The DPRK: Ideas And Methods and The Repressive System And The Political Control In North Korea
TygerFish is right. And those episodes are only the tip of the iceberg. If you think the bizarre story of Japan's Om cult a few years ago is strange, wait till the wall around North Korea crumbles.. some of the stories coming out of there will make you scream.. Its a similar situation, North Korea is basically a cult. Some high(?)lights.
1.) The brainwashing of millions of people to worship their leaders as gods.. (not like gods, AS gods)
2.) The nerve of Kim Jong-Il to set up a huge pimping system to furnish him with thousands of the prettiest women from all of the high schools in the country to provide him with various forms of satisfaction, including sexual.. (The so-called 'Pleasure Team')
3.) The bizarre North Korean negotiating technique that effectively uses the entire countries population as hostages..
Two Stories from North Korea:
_ ll us.pdf
n y. pdf
http://ncafe.com/northkorea/SunOkLeeTestimony_w
http://ncafe.com/northkorea/AnMyong-cholTestimo
Then check out my two web pages at:
/. effect)
http://www.ncafe.com/northkorea/ (archived stuff)
and
http://www.freenorthkorea.net (blog)
(unlinked to prevent the rampant
Some of the more bizzare aspects of North Korea would blow most of your minds..
We need your help in figuring out how to break the information blockade around North Korea..
North Korea is trying to teach some level of computer skills to its elite students. But for most North Koreans college is out of reach.. getting in depends on your having what Chinese would call 'good family background'
/ 2/1/nk 4_3.htm
Read this explanation from the South Korean NIS:
http://www.koreascope.org/newdocs/etext/sub
- Ideological Surveillance, and the Classification of the People
In order to facilitate its dictatorial system, the North Korean Workers' Party conducted full-scale ideological investigations on every individual citizen in North Korea twice under the name of the so-called "intensive guidance project" (1958-1960) and the "citizens re-registration project" (1966-1967). Based on the results of these investigations, the North Korean ruling hierarchy in February 1971 completed the work of classifying the entire populace into 3 main groups, and then again into 51 sub-groups.
The classification is as follows:
The Classification
Main Groups
Sub-Groups
Treatment
The Core Group
(28%)
(12 sub-groups) Party cadre official,bereaved familiesof partisans, war heroes and their family members, etc.
0 Qualification for becoming cadres in the Party,Gov't and the military.
0 Better treatment in receiving the ration of food and daily necessities
The Instable Group
(45%)
(18 sub-groups) General populace
0 Qualification for becoming low-ranking Officials
0 A chance to be reclassified into the core group
The Hostile Group
(27%)
(21 sub-groups) Former religious believers, landlords and government officials during Japanese colonial rule, families of those who defectedto the Republic of Korea, ideological criminals and their family members.
0 Forced labor in remote places
0 No qualification for becoming Party members
0 No chance to enter colleges
0 A chance for only children to bereclassified into the instable group
0 Being placed under constant watch
Basically their mid-range Linux machines have better I/O than anything else in their price class, and they scale better than any other computer available with an almost linear relation of processors to performance.
That has been a Holy Grail for hardware designers ever since multiprocessor machines were first invented.
IMO SGI's Linux boxen are the fastest Linux machines available anywhere, at any price..
Okay, there are about a zillion reasons why this cant fly.. I remember using "frames" in lots of DOS programs, and the pioneering Community Memory project in Berkeley, and the early hypertext terminals on BART in the early 80s. Prior Art bigtime.. But the real killer argument is that by not trying to defend 'their patent' when frames first arrived on the scene (1995) they have essentially given up on it.. The patent is obviously crap, but their not defending for over eight years makes it even more crap. Hell they even ADVERTISED on framed web sites WITHOUT SUING.
We are using the least accurate of possible voting systems, the plurality system. That is one of the reasons why the last election went the way it did. Our system is the worst possible, the one most likely to produce anomalies that do not reflect the will of the people. We need a preference-weighted voting system that prevents votes from being wasted if one's first choice candidate does not win. Like the "Borda Count" method. Many other countries are going this way. Most scientists and mathematicians agree.
r oo m/v0.1/html/lab6/lab6.html
t m
2 &b tnG=Google+Search&num=200
Do the math:
http://www.princeton.edu/~matalive/VirtualClass
http://www.ctl.ua.edu/math103/Voting/4popular.h
Or do a search for Borda Count on Google:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Borda+Count%2
Read the explanations above and then..Write your elected representatives..
http://wireless.oldcolo.com and http://www.tapr.org/
Don't give up.. the solution to your problem is out there.. If they could wire Mongolia to the net using SS, they can certainly do the same for you..
maybe you could get an NSF grant to do this...
For some interesting historical background on spread-spectrum, check out http://www.ncafe.com/chris/pat2/index.html
I'll forward your post on to some other people who might have some answers..
Chris
Don't think so? Imagine that the nazis had wome World War II. Or Stalin won the cold war. The world we live in would look *very* different today. And it is cold hard reality that the NSA spends a lot of money supporting cryptography education. That is money that is supporting cryptography research of all kinds, for everybody, not just Americans . The international scientific community.
Does that tell you something? People who have something constructive to say, should get involved in the debate on the NSA on some level and maybe in a generation or so, we will have something that we can all be proud of..
They need good people with morals and brains, too.
In any case, for right now, I might disagree with much of what they do, but I am glad they exist.
Ch-Ching!!! We Lose!
But I'm getting away from the real point. Yes, its truly a cliche, but its also true.. Information wants to be free.. And information = freedom, eventually .
Thanks to the web, these institutions now don't have a stranglehold on information. They only control 99%. But they are scared because they *know* that if even 1% of what they are doing becomes known, they are doomed.. Because they are evil. And especially because they are (often) parasites ..
The so-called 'established institutions' are ultimately fragile because they are parasites sucking the lifeblood of all of us.. Like the RIAA, they add no value to life or the world.. they only restrict the inevitable..the 'magic of the marketplace' *laugh* can replace.. them.. too. And they know it.
politicians take notice..
It is not the 15 year olds who are changing things.. They just are the ones who don't know how to keep it quiet. *laugh*
For now..
Boo!
15 year olds are like the child in "The Emperors New Clothes", they will admit what others only think. And eventually we all win when the stale and haughty fatcat institutions crumble..
Peace..
Now if I could only get it to compile on my RedHat 7 system, Id be happy.. It works for me on winblows.. :(
Very cool.. dont let my griping dissuade you from checking it out...
neurotech at iname dot com
If this problem exists, we have to address it. The best we can. Thats all there is to it. Otherwise we are commiting a terrible crime.
"They then decide that they need to charge $1,000 for a course of the treatment, but the actual direct costs of production are $50. " I've heard that the actual cost of producing a year's supply of AZT is around $0.11. That's right, eleven cents.
All I can say is that these people who are defying the pharmaceutical companies and the US government to manufacture these drugs are real-life heroes. These are life-or-death issues, and people can't ignore them. The US should take the lead and make it clear to the pharmaceutical 'giants' that their social contract with *americans* depends on how they behave in the third world. When those who need them are poor, they should be giving these drugs away. Let them make money in other ways. Or they don't deserve our protection. Let them set up their corporations in some other country, behavior like this makes me ashamed to be an American. :-( (TM)
http://www.zyvex.com/nanotech/nano4/mckendreePaper .html
http://www.nas.nasa.gov/Groups/Nanotechnology/publ ications/1997/applications/#transportation
http://www.nas.nasa.gov/Groups/Nanotechnology/publ ications/MGMS_EC1/program/paper.html