Where does this energy come from?!? Wow, this must be magic!
It IS magic! Everything is magic! This computer is magic. I push 'button' on a 'keyboard' and letters appear on a 'monitor' which mystically get sent to 'slashdot' and can be viewed upon the 'monitors' of millions of other people on their 'computers'
And what's a phone but a (what's the word for distance voice communication, not telepathy, but...?, that word) device?
Light switch: you flick a 'switch' on a wall, and suddenly the whole room is illuminated. how? magic.
(and just to be pedantic) how does a knife actually cut things? Sure, the sharpened edge can be viewed as a force multiplier, but how?
Magic is fun. Fireball: requirements, 1 molotov cocktail, 1 lighter.
the government in the 60's initiated a "War on Poverty" with the stated goal of eradicating poverty
Yeah, but they did that with a 'War On Drugs' too, didn't they? War generally isn't a good way to solve your social problems, unless you're going to use the Carthage solution, kill EVERYONE, raze the city, sow the ground with salt (stops those earth-melded vampires from getting back up)
Not many people are willing to use that solution these days, and the US stops anyone but the US who tries.
So long as you live in a Capitalist society, private industry has no incentive to eliminate unemployment, as unemployment is used as a threat to keep workers in line. All that'll really happen is that benefits will keep dropping, which saves cash, and makes people more desperate to get jobs, so Corporations can then lower working conditions, and the whole thing is a nasty downward spiral. Eventually society crublems into violence as desperate people steal what they need, until the state is forced to step in, instituting a Welfare system again.
Welfare and Unemployment aren't going to go away until Capitalism does. That's no a magic solution either, but it's a good start.
350 Million Pounds would put me a long way towards destroying most of humanity (preferrably in an ecologically sound manner, people are commonplace, environments aren't really) Conventiently, that would also solve most (not all) of our current social problems. Cunning or what?
Compaq Australia did something like this for April Fools day, a mouse with a 'super conducting generator' in it which charged your battery as you moved it. Even included a little Formula 1 game to help you get the idea.
This one may be real, given that a patent number is quoted, but then the USA patent system is so crocky, that doesn't mean anything anyway.
I wonder how efficient this is, what's the ratio of energy gained from magents to the amount of energy required to move your finger to depress the button?
That's ok, I didn't submit that query, I submitted a different query, and got this result.
That's what this is anyway, a result, not a query. Is NSI trying to make us think results are queries now?
Now, if I submitted the result as a query, then I'd be 'agreeing' to their little request. But how many of you go around submitting those results as queries anyway?
So why not directly subsidise education instead? Instead of the government guaranteeing that you'll pay back your loan (which is the impression I get from your statement) why not put that money into educating you for less instead?
The US education system is really bizarre. But then I grew up in a country with 'free' education (ok, it cost about $300 a year for a college degree directly, and after 5 1/2 years, I owe the government about $6000 in delayed fees, but that's being taken out of my tax, and isn't going up any faster than the CPI is. Compare that to a 5 1/2 year USA degree.)
Get yourself a nice, heavy door, possibly with sharp edgings (not sharp as such, but built to shear things) Salesperson puts foot in door, door keeps closing anyway (sometimes, momentum is your friend)
In a so called democracy, why are you letting minorities (like the self confessed Christian above) run the show?
Oh, I know. Whilst a democracy is supposed to be run by the majority, it's really run by who can shout the loudest. So when are we going to start shouting?
Anti-Gravity has been around since the 50's (1950's as far as I know) The US Government (and possibly a few others) did some experiments, but couldn't come up with enough energy to get it to work sufficiently.
It does work though, but the energy requirements are ridiculous
Basic premise is you get an umberella, coat it in metal, and where the handle is, put a sphere, about 3" across (size may or may not be important)
Then stick a ridiculous voltage potential between the sphere and the 'keeps the rain off your head' bit of the umberella. If you measure it, it will start to get 'lighter'
Lotsa things actually work, just that you're not allowed to know about them.
Now where am I going to be able to go such that I am not surrounded by the evils of technology? When even deepest, darkest Africa is wired, where to next? Mars? (funky, lets go play with the fae, but since NASA put robots on Mars, they may have moved on again)
sigh
Remember the days when there was wonder still in the world? When you could walk a few miles, and come across a totally different culture? When humanity was a bunch of little villages in the forest, scratching out a living by day, hiding under the beds by night?
Yes, I'm replying to my own post, but actually I'm replying to the 3 posts above this one (or is that below?)
First up, I never said the government should be regulating this. Incase you didn't read the last line of my original post, read it again, and guess how I feel about goverments.
Next. If I wanted to report a neighbour for child/spouse abuse, my boss for embezzlement, or my workmates for setting the apprentice on fire, I will. Why should I be afraid to? Take responsibility for yourself, stand up for what you believe in.
Say I got my boss for embezzlement, what are they going to do? Fire me? So I get them for wrongfull dismissal, or simply get another job. So what?
I'm not putting a webcam in my house because what I do in my own home is not public domain, it's my own business.
I'm not saying Privacy isn't a right, I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to hide things, I'm simply saying that you should be responsible for what you do.
Anonymity on the net is like walking Bourke St in a Koala Suit. Nobody knows who you are, and that's fine, but if you start yelling insults at pedestrians, why shouldn't they be able to find out who you are and get you to stop?
I'm pretty sure they came for the Carthagians before they came for the Jews. Just because I support people being able to find out who AC's are, doesn't mean it should be left to the Governments to decide the rules, they're bound to screw it up. I'm worried about how things are already, and I don't like the way things are going, but if done properly (heh!), this could be a good thing.
One of the major problems with the net is the ability for anyone to say anything, and not take any responsibility for it.
I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed to post anonymously, but such anonyminity (sp?) shouldn't be complete. If someone wants to find out who you are, why shouldn't they?
Privacy, however, should be allowed, and maybe even enforced.
Sure, you know who I am, and what I said, but since I put all that in the public domain, why do I care? But anything else is my own business.
Politicians suck, why are we letting them run our country? (Australia mainly, but also USA)
I tried to find the UN rules regarding an official declaration of war, and what happens if it's refused, but couldn't. If anybody does find them, wanna post the link?
Anyway. Rumour has it that there's actually 3 independant countries in Australia (possibly it's all urban legend, but it could be fun), 1 in Western Australia which makes money by being a tax haven, one in Gippsland who floats toy boats down his river to display his naval might, and dunno where the third is.
Now. Theoretically, the Gippsland guy got autonomny becuase the local shire wasn't fixing his waterways so that floods didn't rip the shit out of his lands, yet wouldn't let him fix them himself. So he officially declared war on Australia, via the UN, listing that as one of this complaints.
Australia ignored him (unsurprisingly)
After 3 weeks, he was allowed to declare himself a seperate country, and seceeded from Australia. Australia either - Can't do shit because it's all official UN or... - Can't be bothered doing shit as it's only one guy or (more likely)... - This is all crap anyway
What's this mean? Well, if you have enough valid complaints against US, file an official declaration of war with the UN, and hope US doesn't bomb the crap out of you for it. If you wait long enough, declare your bedroom a seperate country, with your server in it. Make your own internet laws.
The Void Engineers (probably) are attempting to get general society to accept their paradigm as reality(TM).
The way to do this is to get the techies on side first, so you bring out a paper saying that something might be theoretically possible, follow it up later with lab results, and eventually push it into mainstream thought.
Witness the progress of AntiMatter. Until recently it was just theory, then some scientists managed to get a couple anti-hydrogen (I think) atoms happening.
It's called progress. But that's just a name for the fight to control the future of humanity.
Moral 'rights' crusader from Tasmania (where I'm pretty sure that having homosexual sex in your own home with the curtains closed was illegal recently)
Come to think of it, shouldn't 'Moral' there also be quoted?
And the piece of legislation the Liberals (Little Johnny Howard) wanted so desperately to get through was probably their hated "GST" (sales tax to all you USAians)
Typically, Australia is mirroring USA quite horribly, with a moral minority running the country and forcing us to live to their ideals. And this is supposed to be a democracy.
When they burnt him, why weren't his beard and hair aflame?
I saw his body thrashing around I saw his pulserate going down I saw him in convulsive throes I said "I'll have one of those!" (He'll Never Be An) Ol' Man River - TISM
When they burnt him, why weren't his beard and hair aflame?
I saw his body thrashing around I saw his pulse rate going down I saw him in convulsive throes I said "I'll have one of those!" (He'll Never Be An) Ol' Man River - TISM
So? I _could_ have been run over while riding to work this morning? Should all the motorists have been arrested on the chance that they _may_ have run me over?
You could do it, but you'd have to do intermediate bus-request arbitration on the riser board.
The PII chipset (Celeron included) allows 2 CPU's due to 2 bus-request arbitration pins.
Now, you have a riser board, with 2 CPU's on it. The riser board handles bus-arbitration between it's 2 CPU's itself, remembers who won, and then passes the arbitration request onto the motherboard. If the motherboard allocates the riser card the bus, the riser card send the signal to the winning CPU.
So the CPU's arbitrate for the riser's bus, and the risers arbitrate for the motherboard's bus.
It'll be a little slower (extra step involved in getting the bus) and bus contention will be higher (4 devices now on the GTL+(?) bus) but it should be able to be done.
Any budding hardware techies out there willing to give it a try?
This idea is CopyRight(C) Mark James 1999. People are free to copy and use this idea for their own purposes. If you actually get it to work, I want one. Or is that what the GPL is for?
But it's got the possibility to be so amazingly large that you'd hardly notice anyway.
Think. There is no such thing as purely virtual property in the sense that we're talking about. Items on UO, domain names, source code, all that stuff has to exist somewhere in the 'real' world. Even if it's in the magnetic properties of a small portion of someone's harddrive.
So, no virtual property without somewhere physical and 'real' to store it.
Now, there's a limit to the amount of physical, 'real' stuff around, you could turn the entire galaxy into computer storage, and it would be HUGE!, but still finite.
So, eventually, we're going to run out.
Of course, by the time we get there, most of you will be dead (I'm not planning on joining you) and technology may have found a solution anyway.
ASSUMPTIONS: a) The universe is not infinite b) Bhaal's not going to create more matter just because we run out of storage space
And incase you're pointing out how thoughts aren't physical, what's that grey squidgy stuff for then?
Slashdot Mirror
It IS magic! Everything is magic! This computer is magic. I push 'button' on a 'keyboard' and letters appear on a 'monitor' which mystically get sent to 'slashdot' and can be viewed upon the 'monitors' of millions of other people on their 'computers'
And what's a phone but a (what's the word for distance voice communication, not telepathy, but...?, that word) device?
Light switch: you flick a 'switch' on a wall, and suddenly the whole room is illuminated. how? magic.
(and just to be pedantic) how does a knife actually cut things? Sure, the sharpened edge can be viewed as a force multiplier, but how?
Magic is fun. Fireball: requirements, 1 molotov cocktail, 1 lighter.
tee hee hee
Yeah, but they did that with a 'War On Drugs' too, didn't they? War generally isn't a good way to solve your social problems, unless you're going to use the Carthage solution, kill EVERYONE, raze the city, sow the ground with salt (stops those earth-melded vampires from getting back up)
Not many people are willing to use that solution these days, and the US stops anyone but the US who tries.
So long as you live in a Capitalist society, private industry has no incentive to eliminate unemployment, as unemployment is used as a threat to keep workers in line. All that'll really happen is that benefits will keep dropping, which saves cash, and makes people more desperate to get jobs, so Corporations can then lower working conditions, and the whole thing is a nasty downward spiral. Eventually society crublems into violence as desperate people steal what they need, until the state is forced to step in, instituting a Welfare system again.
Welfare and Unemployment aren't going to go away until Capitalism does. That's no a magic solution either, but it's a good start.
Come, join the Second Churce of Genocide.
This one may be real, given that a patent number is quoted, but then the USA patent system is so crocky, that doesn't mean anything anyway.
I wonder how efficient this is, what's the ratio of energy gained from magents to the amount of energy required to move your finger to depress the button?
That's what this is anyway, a result, not a query. Is NSI trying to make us think results are queries now?
Now, if I submitted the result as a query, then I'd be 'agreeing' to their little request. But how many of you go around submitting those results as queries anyway?
Not that I agree with their request.
The US education system is really bizarre. But then I grew up in a country with 'free' education (ok, it cost about $300 a year for a college degree directly, and after 5 1/2 years, I owe the government about $6000 in delayed fees, but that's being taken out of my tax, and isn't going up any faster than the CPI is. Compare that to a 5 1/2 year USA degree.)
Get yourself a nice, heavy door, possibly with sharp edgings (not sharp as such, but built to shear things) Salesperson puts foot in door, door keeps closing anyway (sometimes, momentum is your friend)
Oh, I know. Whilst a democracy is supposed to be run by the majority, it's really run by who can shout the loudest. So when are we going to start shouting?
I am not Elvis, but then I never was really.
It does work though, but the energy requirements are ridiculous
Basic premise is you get an umberella, coat it in metal, and where the handle is, put a sphere, about 3" across (size may or may not be important)
Then stick a ridiculous voltage potential between the sphere and the 'keeps the rain off your head' bit of the umberella. If you measure it, it will start to get 'lighter'
Lotsa things actually work, just that you're not allowed to know about them.
bibi
sigh
Remember the days when there was wonder still in the world? When you could walk a few miles, and come across a totally different culture? When humanity was a bunch of little villages in the forest, scratching out a living by day, hiding under the beds by night?
Bring back the Impergium!
Why not? Care to justify W.H.Gates III's continued existance?
Lord Bhaal - Proud spokesdaemon for the Second Church of Genocide
First up, I never said the government should be regulating this. Incase you didn't read the last line of my original post, read it again, and guess how I feel about goverments.
Next. If I wanted to report a neighbour for child/spouse abuse, my boss for embezzlement, or my workmates for setting the apprentice on fire, I will. Why should I be afraid to? Take responsibility for yourself, stand up for what you believe in.
Say I got my boss for embezzlement, what are they going to do? Fire me? So I get them for wrongfull dismissal, or simply get another job. So what?
I'm not putting a webcam in my house because what I do in my own home is not public domain, it's my own business.
I'm not saying Privacy isn't a right, I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to hide things, I'm simply saying that you should be responsible for what you do.
Anonymity on the net is like walking Bourke St in a Koala Suit. Nobody knows who you are, and that's fine, but if you start yelling insults at pedestrians, why shouldn't they be able to find out who you are and get you to stop?
I'm pretty sure they came for the Carthagians before they came for the Jews. Just because I support people being able to find out who AC's are, doesn't mean it should be left to the Governments to decide the rules, they're bound to screw it up. I'm worried about how things are already, and I don't like the way things are going, but if done properly (heh!), this could be a good thing.
Society needs to be act responsibly again
One of the major problems with the net is the ability for anyone to say anything, and not take any responsibility for it.
I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed to post anonymously, but such anonyminity (sp?) shouldn't be complete. If someone wants to find out who you are, why shouldn't they?
Privacy, however, should be allowed, and maybe even enforced.
Sure, you know who I am, and what I said, but since I put all that in the public domain, why do I care? But anything else is my own business.
Politicians suck, why are we letting them run our country? (Australia mainly, but also USA)
Technolust. So long as Kate is more important, it's fine with me.
Anyway. Rumour has it that there's actually 3 independant countries in Australia (possibly it's all urban legend, but it could be fun), 1 in Western Australia which makes money by being a tax haven, one in Gippsland who floats toy boats down his river to display his naval might, and dunno where the third is.
Now. Theoretically, the Gippsland guy got autonomny becuase the local shire wasn't fixing his waterways so that floods didn't rip the shit out of his lands, yet wouldn't let him fix them himself. So he officially declared war on Australia, via the UN, listing that as one of this complaints.
Australia ignored him (unsurprisingly)
After 3 weeks, he was allowed to declare himself a seperate country, and seceeded from Australia. Australia either
- Can't do shit because it's all official UN or...
- Can't be bothered doing shit as it's only one guy or (more likely)...
- This is all crap anyway
What's this mean? Well, if you have enough valid complaints against US, file an official declaration of war with the UN, and hope US doesn't bomb the crap out of you for it. If you wait long enough, declare your bedroom a seperate country, with your server in it. Make your own internet laws.
And then try to enforce them.
The Void Engineers (probably) are attempting to get general society to accept their paradigm as reality(TM).
The way to do this is to get the techies on side first, so you bring out a paper saying that something might be theoretically possible, follow it up later with lab results, and eventually push it into mainstream thought.
Witness the progress of AntiMatter. Until recently it was just theory, then some scientists managed to get a couple anti-hydrogen (I think) atoms happening.
It's called progress. But that's just a name for the fight to control the future of humanity.
Moral 'rights' crusader from Tasmania (where I'm pretty sure that having homosexual sex in your own home with the curtains closed was illegal recently)
Come to think of it, shouldn't 'Moral' there also be quoted?
And the piece of legislation the Liberals (Little Johnny Howard) wanted so desperately to get through was probably their hated "GST" (sales tax to all you USAians)
So, revolution anyone?
If you're in Australia, turn up to the rallies, be there, for I cannot.
(and no, that's not a lame excuse, just that I'm currently on the other side of the world)
Check out http://www.efa.org.au/Campaigns/may28/ and http://www.bofh.net.au/~gimila/poster.jpg for details on the rallys.
Typically, Australia is mirroring USA quite horribly, with a moral minority running the country and forcing us to live to their ideals. And this is supposed to be a democracy.
What a crock.
When they burnt him, why weren't his beard and hair aflame?
I saw his body thrashing around
I saw his pulserate going down
I saw him in convulsive throes
I said "I'll have one of those!"
(He'll Never Be An) Ol' Man River - TISM
When they burnt him, why weren't his beard and hair aflame?
I saw his body thrashing around
I saw his pulse rate going down
I saw him in convulsive throes
I said "I'll have one of those!"
(He'll Never Be An) Ol' Man River - TISM
So? I _could_ have been run over while riding to work this morning? Should all the motorists have been arrested on the chance that they _may_ have run me over?
You could do it, but you'd have to do intermediate bus-request arbitration on the riser board.
The PII chipset (Celeron included) allows 2 CPU's due to 2 bus-request arbitration pins.
Now, you have a riser board, with 2 CPU's on it. The riser board handles bus-arbitration between it's 2 CPU's itself, remembers who won, and then passes the arbitration request onto the motherboard. If the motherboard allocates the riser card the bus, the riser card send the signal to the winning CPU.
So the CPU's arbitrate for the riser's bus, and the risers arbitrate for the motherboard's bus.
It'll be a little slower (extra step involved in getting the bus) and bus contention will be higher (4 devices now on the GTL+(?) bus) but it should be able to be done.
Any budding hardware techies out there willing to give it a try?
This idea is CopyRight(C) Mark James 1999.
People are free to copy and use this idea for their own purposes. If you actually get it to work, I want one. Or is that what the GPL is for?
But it's got the possibility to be so amazingly large that you'd hardly notice anyway.
Think. There is no such thing as purely virtual property in the sense that we're talking about. Items on UO, domain names, source code, all that stuff has to exist somewhere in the 'real' world. Even if it's in the magnetic properties of a small portion of someone's harddrive.
So, no virtual property without somewhere physical and 'real' to store it.
Now, there's a limit to the amount of physical, 'real' stuff around, you could turn the entire galaxy into computer storage, and it would be HUGE!, but still finite.
So, eventually, we're going to run out.
Of course, by the time we get there, most of you will be dead (I'm not planning on joining you) and technology may have found a solution anyway.
ASSUMPTIONS:
a) The universe is not infinite
b) Bhaal's not going to create more matter just because we run out of storage space
And incase you're pointing out how thoughts aren't physical, what's that grey squidgy stuff for then?