you are a sucker. You have been brainwashed by geek 'street-cred' 1337. You make so many foolish assumptions that I can't even begin to rebut them but I guess I have to try:
"...It's obvious that there was no actual design effort put into that pile of crap."
Obviously your flippant attitude towards this multi-billion dollar effort called 'Win98' suggests advocacy of alternative OSs. Since you are probably not a billionaire software success, I'd guess you haven't exactly succeeded in presenting your own alternative OS. That would lead to the ready assumption that you partake or prefer of another OS. Since end user grade OSs are limited in number, and since you refer to a specific Unix command with "rm/bin/sh", I will hazard the guess that you are a Linux advocate. Furthermore, in response to your overtly hostile tone, I will infer that you are in fact a lowly zealot.
That being the case, It is only reasonable for me to find myself compelled to mention that THERE IS NO ACTUAL DESIGN EFFORT PUT INTO THAT PILE OF CRAP known as Linux. This OS you are so vehemently proud of represents exactly zero coherent 'design' across the many layers of an OS. From the randomness of the UI syntax or widgetry, to the complete and utter lack of consistent and timely hardware support to the pedantic and onerous development of the kernel, there is nothing whatsoever impressive about linux development and planning. When we start getting into unified driver models, shell consistency, robust and dependable API's that create another strata of sophistication (like COM is above the HAL), only then will Linux become a worthwhile user experience.
I'm sure you are proud of your detailed knowledge of the cryptic tangled mess that is Linux today, but it has almost nothing to do with getting the job done in a quick and efficent way. The time it takes just to familiarize yourself with it all is already costing you, instead of increasing your wealth- if you are in any sort of business not directly related to computers. Since zealotry is entirely to blame for the short-sightedness and failure to overcome design errors in Linux, it is fair to say that you might as well stfu and go home, because you are causing much more damage to OSS and Linux than you are doing good at tearing down the Windows Hegemony.
"...place thanks to Intel's worship of backwards-compatibility."
I have worked at/on many firms that still rely on 286's to this very day! Law Firms, Collection Agencies, Insurance brokers, almost all of them are able to function on Dos 5.0 and a 386. many of them do. Wordperfect, Peachtree and Foxpro are some of the main apps still in use today. Why are MS and Intel dominant? Because they have a huge software base and support backwards compatability. How did they acquire such a huge install base in the first place? because they were there and provided an 'Open Hardware' model and a consistent development environment. No need to worry about the proprietary hardware and OS coming out of Honneywell or HP or Digital or Fujitsu or Samsung or any of the big iron mfctr's of years past. PC companies made hardware to a standard. PC companies wrote software to a standard. there were few licensing retrictions in place to limit the development plans and market pressures. In fact, the only companies hobbled by the licensing restrictions were those companies that sold prebuilt systems, the Dells and Compaqs. A small price to pay, and in fact, Intel and MS were as much to thank for building the PC clone's business as the other way around. Remember, the x86 rose to dominance out of the morass of C64, Apple/Mac, TRS-80, TI-99 4/a, etc. The deciding factor in the alternatives' demise is the closed hardware model. Apple is still hanging in there, but it ebbs and flows. maybe we will live to see them switch over to MS OS's in the future, we'll see how it goes. But the point is that there were some things done right by mocrosoft and intel that have really advanced the state of the art and focused the community of developers and engineers to hug the bleeding edge. Soft hearted communistic OS efforts will only thwart the madcap sprint into the future of High-Tech.
"...They hold no knowledge or useful information, but are still there because of evolution"
even here you reveal yourself to be a fool. The human mind governs a LOT more that you will ever know. In fact, memories are stored in a volume, not a mere linear format. holographic even, with endless interconnections and cross references. You are discussing an architecture well outside your grasp. talk to the hand, don't even go there.
Amazing, There is a certain irony to the fact that I am logged in under my troll account and drunk enough to leave it that way (though I am no part of the so-called 'Troll War' against slashdot, I just use this account to express extreme displeasure with the occasional post or excersize my twisted sense of humor) and the only person willing or able to post an on-topic, non flamebait opinion on the story. Mmmm....
So I have this friend that happens to be a producer in Hollywood. Not that that makes me special somehow, but he is the real thing. And he has both DSL anda 56k WebTV. He is not exactly computer-illiterate, but he's not quite a "power-user" either. He uses win98, and is rather addicted to lookout (and the rest of Office2000). But he speaks very highly of his WebTV. It seems you can watch some form of PiP, and display detailed info of the show you are watching. As he is especially interested in the details of filmdom, the web-like integration to the movie experience proves invaluable. He is able to look up the vital statistics, historical ancdotes, related info, ordering info and actual industry contacts for any film he's watching.
AND we can read slashdot. I've submitted my most obnoxious, lame stuff from his webTV, testing it out.
Though this is a rather specialized usage of WebTV, it serves to demonstrate the applicability of the system. I myself love movies and would like to have the info available on the same display as the film. Email and Webbrowsing is as easy as any HTML style interface can be. We have yet to find a site that won'trender correctly, which is a lot more than you can say for Lynx.
Over all, I would say that WebTV is a wonderful addition to any TV, if you have a computer or not. If a full fledged machine is not available, you could make do with most of your needs on a WebTV set. The most obvious exceptions are games and mp3's. And since you can get a console videogame macihne and an Apex DVD player for less than the cost of a modern machine, it seems you'd have the full run of things covered, as a user.
Web TV falls short by lacking certain other uses: It's the ability to code in any sense, mass storage of illicit media files, document creation and graphics applications that you'll find lacking in a WebTV box. Those are pretty important apps to most of us, but not at all crucial tro the modern computing experience of web page and email veiwing. So, in short, If your 'friend' wants anything more than a browser on his TV, webTV is not for him/her. However, holy crap I'm ranting... goodbye!
Why, oh why do you need to be such a lame ass zealot? So MS doesn't want to encourage cli usage in 95? Big deal. What about the Mac OS, which has no command line at all? Why aren't you railing against Apple? Besides, there are several reasons for MS to discourage ths dos prompt in their consummer OS, one of which is to discourage developers from writing unstandard UI's with queer syntax. The consummer OS is not the place for such things. Nor should it be.
And as for the filename completion, or any of the modern UNIX shell features, I have to applaud MS for leaving that room for a 3rd party developer like JP Software to provide a product. A truly great product, too.
Now MS is trying to bring the cli back, and in a useful way for the majority of people (my grandma?), and you in your infinate 1337 wisdom have to try and bag on them for that, too. what a maroon!
It seems like MS can do nothing good from the zealots point of view, no matter what their course of action. It is people like you, with this blind irrational hatred that lead to the Inquisition, the Nazi party, McCarthyism etc. You should be deeply ashamed. I am by no means a Microsoft apologist, but your lameness has tripped a circuit in my head. GET A FSCKING CLUE!
awww, I didn't mean to imply you were female (or male) as I would imagine your uid stands for "I Am Roy".
I just thought your opening line was funny in a beavis and butthead sorta way, only I figured pre-pubescent valley-girls seem more likely to say 'did it' in that oooh-gross way. At least as far as I can tell, with nothing more to go off than my datastore of confused social stereotypes derived from NBC, certain hygeine commercials and field trips to the Starbucks chain of coffee shops...
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well, there are only lame approximations (like sortable collumns in various graphical file managers) that I can offer up here in specific response, But I was really just reacting to the claim that ther hasn't been crap since 1972.
For what it's worth, I think OLE can hold a candle to the pipe character, in the sense that it is a major leap forward in UI.
back in the early 90's I was a bill collector for 900 and 976 phone sex companies. we represented several of those co's, and it was common knowledge that they'd gouge the prices like this, usually with a $2.99/minute ad, and $2.99 a minute front end msg, then a disclaimer 'subject to change', then the menu of chat rooms, then the addendum latest price of $4.99/minute (which was the maximum allowable price). Hundreds of phone sex lines followed this practice, and suckered them in by the 10,000's.
It gets worse, see. First, usage of the service automatically signed you up for a credit account, and half the charges were applied to that account, to obfuscate the scam. nearly everyone was shocked to recieve a bill from the phone sex company, some paid withouta peep, others tried to complain in vain.
Also, early on it was realized that there was enormous latitude in the collection process, with the outfit I was involved in acting as a 'first party' collection agency to circumvent normal FTC regulations, plus the looming threat of exposure to friends and family and reportings to Trans Union and TRW.
I was young and impressionable, this activity was all couched in phrases that suggested legitimacy and legality, but once I realized the full extent of the evil, I fled forthwith. These guys are bad, bad people. My prediction is that they will pull a stunt like the one mentioned in 'Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels' and send refund checks with an account name like 'Dildo Lovin' Ass Sluts Incorporated', which nobody in they're right mind will cash. Toooooo sad...
I would like to take this opportunity to breach the question "Why Open Source?" I know it isn't entirely on topic, but with the weight the FSF seems to think they have (and apparently do have if RMS can make 'demands' like this and get coverage on Slashdot) I think the question needs some re-hashing.
As a member of the ICANN at large voting body, I am a little concerned that our time is being wasted even considering it, if what I think is true: Open source software is and will always be little better than a hobby for the disaffected programmer set.
I think most of us have already heard the lucid arguments for or against advocating OSS, but the facts still stand that:
Open source projects advance at a sloth's pace and are rife with buggy, half finished projects, endless beta cycles, and a lack of culpability
Most projects are hardly useful for professional needs like graphics, modelling rendering, video and film editing, even word processing. (except for a few examples like Apache)
The entire movement is undisciplined and unfocussed like a biker gang, whereas it should start putting out software like a crack squad of navy seals if it wants to garner respect. That includes being recognized with special status like a unique TLD.
I know most of you will think of this as flamebait, but I really don't think the FSF has any accomplishments worthy of such a request. And I am a voting member at ICANN. So unless some of you can sing a convincing song to me, you know where my vote lies. Not that these TLD decisions will come up in earnest for another year or so.
sorry. MS licenses 1000's of things, from codecs to entire video games. And they don't just buy any company they like, especially hardware. I don't want to discourage you from posting, it's good that you want to participate, but you are so clueless here you'd better sit back and soak up some knowledge. I'm afraid you've fallen victim to linux zealot FUD on this one.
my first was actually my dad's first, a timex sinclair that booted up to some assembly interpreter. It had grainy black and white ntsc output, had a membrane keyboard and would have been able to fit inside my current computers case with the cover on! It was just terrible though. We returned it and got a TI/994a a while later. I quickly monopolized the 99, and moved it into my bedroom. To get the full effect for Trek, (transcribed from an issue of Compute!) I would dim the lights, turn on a blacklight and wear my surplus Russian tank pilot goggles. Then I would tweak the text colors all to hell to get the important info to stand out more clearly (klingons!). Surely this is way too geeky, but it is where I developed my keen interest in UI design. Now I do interfaces for video games and make rather good money. And to think, my parents completely discouraged this by making me chop firewood, play outside, do the dishes. From their perspective even watching TV was a better way to spend my time!
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A lot of un-substantiated nay-saying, if you ask me...
the problem with just using the reference drivers is that all the extra features on the Asus 6600 deluxe aren't covered in the reference drivers.
So I am often trying the refernce drivers, until the proper asus drivers make the scene. But using the reference drivers renders those special features useless or worse.
As for Linux support, well, yeah right- always a joke. I guess it works fine, but I really play all my games in winXX so I haven't seen the accelerator features and openGL in action. Anyone have comments on that?
Haven't installed BeOS since I got the new card though, so I have to wonder how the support is there. I will look in to it today.
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what the hell is wrong with you people? What is all this crap about NSI? The following is taken from the ICANN website.
The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is the non-profit corporation that was formed to assume responsibility for the IP address space allocation, protocol parameter assignment, domain name system management, and root server system management functions previously performed under U.S. Government contract by IANA and other entities.
As you can clearly see by even this little snippet, ICANN hass been charged with the responsibilities of administration for DNS. Other Entities (mere registrars like NSI) may facilitate the system, but ICANN is where registrars go to get their license, where the vote on new tLD's will be held, where decisions about the future of the internet are being made. You lousy people have problems with the way DNS is run now? join up and frickin vote. There are only a few thousand members, THAT LOW NUMBER OF VOTERS AMPLIFIES YOUR CONTRIBUITION. Thus, real changes can and will be affected by the people with enough sense to join up.
I thought you guys were supposed to be tuned-in and turned on around here... But ICANN gets mentioned in a mere 2 or 3 posts in a discussion about DNS? I guess you are all plain-jane wanabees after all.
As a member of the voting body for ICANN, I am shocked that you guys could be so clueless. I guess my vote will count that much more, if even the editors of/. don't have a clue...
I made the mistake of going Asus for my last upgrade. got their p2b and a GeForce v6600 (both chosen per Tom Pabst's reviews, btw).
As it turns out, the motherboard is ok, if limited, with poor overclocking controls (jumpers under cables) and a mere 3 dimm slots.
But I don't even bother hoping for good video card drivers out of Asus anymore. They designed their own board, with great ntsc and a built in DVD decoder, but the software is for windows and the drivers rarely update, usually 6 mos. behind the reference drivers for win2k. I definately should have gone for one of the reference board models...
HEY IF ANY OF YOU ASUS GUYS ARE OUT THERE, I WANT MY MONEY BACK!
I will pobably go Abit next time. just waitin' on that 815e, baby!
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you are a sucker. You have been brainwashed by geek 'street-cred' 1337. You make so many foolish assumptions that I can't even begin to rebut them but I guess I have to try:
...It's obvious that there was no actual design effort put into that pile of crap."
/bin/sh", I will hazard the guess that you are a Linux advocate. Furthermore, in response to your overtly hostile tone, I will infer that you are in fact a lowly zealot.
...place thanks to Intel's worship of backwards-compatibility."
...They hold no knowledge or useful information, but are still there because of evolution"
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Obviously your flippant attitude towards this multi-billion dollar effort called 'Win98' suggests advocacy of alternative OSs. Since you are probably not a billionaire software success, I'd guess you haven't exactly succeeded in presenting your own alternative OS. That would lead to the ready assumption that you partake or prefer of another OS. Since end user grade OSs are limited in number, and since you refer to a specific Unix command with "rm
That being the case, It is only reasonable for me to find myself compelled to mention that THERE IS NO ACTUAL DESIGN EFFORT PUT INTO THAT PILE OF CRAP known as Linux. This OS you are so vehemently proud of represents exactly zero coherent 'design' across the many layers of an OS. From the randomness of the UI syntax or widgetry, to the complete and utter lack of consistent and timely hardware support to the pedantic and onerous development of the kernel, there is nothing whatsoever impressive about linux development and planning. When we start getting into unified driver models, shell consistency, robust and dependable API's that create another strata of sophistication (like COM is above the HAL), only then will Linux become a worthwhile user experience.
I'm sure you are proud of your detailed knowledge of the cryptic tangled mess that is Linux today, but it has almost nothing to do with getting the job done in a quick and efficent way. The time it takes just to familiarize yourself with it all is already costing you, instead of increasing your wealth- if you are in any sort of business not directly related to computers. Since zealotry is entirely to blame for the short-sightedness and failure to overcome design errors in Linux, it is fair to say that you might as well stfu and go home, because you are causing much more damage to OSS and Linux than you are doing good at tearing down the Windows Hegemony.
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I have worked at/on many firms that still rely on 286's to this very day! Law Firms, Collection Agencies, Insurance brokers, almost all of them are able to function on Dos 5.0 and a 386. many of them do. Wordperfect, Peachtree and Foxpro are some of the main apps still in use today. Why are MS and Intel dominant? Because they have a huge software base and support backwards compatability. How did they acquire such a huge install base in the first place? because they were there and provided an 'Open Hardware' model and a consistent development environment. No need to worry about the proprietary hardware and OS coming out of Honneywell or HP or Digital or Fujitsu or Samsung or any of the big iron mfctr's of years past. PC companies made hardware to a standard. PC companies wrote software to a standard. there were few licensing retrictions in place to limit the development plans and market pressures. In fact, the only companies hobbled by the licensing restrictions were those companies that sold prebuilt systems, the Dells and Compaqs. A small price to pay, and in fact, Intel and MS were as much to thank for building the PC clone's business as the other way around. Remember, the x86 rose to dominance out of the morass of C64, Apple/Mac, TRS-80, TI-99 4/a, etc. The deciding factor in the alternatives' demise is the closed hardware model. Apple is still hanging in there, but it ebbs and flows. maybe we will live to see them switch over to MS OS's in the future, we'll see how it goes. But the point is that there were some things done right by mocrosoft and intel that have really advanced the state of the art and focused the community of developers and engineers to hug the bleeding edge. Soft hearted communistic OS efforts will only thwart the madcap sprint into the future of High-Tech.
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even here you reveal yourself to be a fool. The human mind governs a LOT more that you will ever know. In fact, memories are stored in a volume, not a mere linear format. holographic even, with endless interconnections and cross references. You are discussing an architecture well outside your grasp. talk to the hand, don't even go there.
stfu and just go home.
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Amazing, There is a certain irony to the fact that I am logged in under my troll account and drunk enough to leave it that way (though I am no part of the so-called 'Troll War' against slashdot, I just use this account to express extreme displeasure with the occasional post or excersize my twisted sense of humor) and the only person willing or able to post an on-topic, non flamebait opinion on the story. Mmmm....
So I have this friend that happens to be a producer in Hollywood. Not that that makes me special somehow, but he is the real thing. And he has both DSL anda 56k WebTV. He is not exactly computer-illiterate, but he's not quite a "power-user" either. He uses win98, and is rather addicted to lookout (and the rest of Office2000). But he speaks very highly of his WebTV. It seems you can watch some form of PiP, and display detailed info of the show you are watching. As he is especially interested in the details of filmdom, the web-like integration to the movie experience proves invaluable. He is able to look up the vital statistics, historical ancdotes, related info, ordering info and actual industry contacts for any film he's watching.
AND we can read slashdot. I've submitted my most obnoxious, lame stuff from his webTV, testing it out.
Though this is a rather specialized usage of WebTV, it serves to demonstrate the applicability of the system. I myself love movies and would like to have the info available on the same display as the film. Email and Webbrowsing is as easy as any HTML style interface can be. We have yet to find a site that won'trender correctly, which is a lot more than you can say for Lynx.
Over all, I would say that WebTV is a wonderful addition to any TV, if you have a computer or not. If a full fledged machine is not available, you could make do with most of your needs on a WebTV set. The most obvious exceptions are games and mp3's. And since you can get a console videogame macihne and an Apex DVD player for less than the cost of a modern machine, it seems you'd have the full run of things covered, as a user.
Web TV falls short by lacking certain other uses: It's the ability to code in any sense, mass storage of illicit media files, document creation and graphics applications that you'll find lacking in a WebTV box. Those are pretty important apps to most of us, but not at all crucial tro the modern computing experience of web page and email veiwing. So, in short, If your 'friend' wants anything more than a browser on his TV, webTV is not for him/her. However, holy crap I'm ranting... goodbye!
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Why, oh why do you need to be such a lame ass zealot? So MS doesn't want to encourage cli usage in 95? Big deal. What about the Mac OS, which has no command line at all? Why aren't you railing against Apple? Besides, there are several reasons for MS to discourage ths dos prompt in their consummer OS, one of which is to discourage developers from writing unstandard UI's with queer syntax. The consummer OS is not the place for such things. Nor should it be.
And as for the filename completion, or any of the modern UNIX shell features, I have to applaud MS for leaving that room for a 3rd party developer like JP Software to provide a product. A truly great product, too.
Now MS is trying to bring the cli back, and in a useful way for the majority of people (my grandma?), and you in your infinate 1337 wisdom have to try and bag on them for that, too. what a maroon!
It seems like MS can do nothing good from the zealots point of view, no matter what their course of action. It is people like you, with this blind irrational hatred that lead to the Inquisition, the Nazi party, McCarthyism etc. You should be deeply ashamed. I am by no means a Microsoft apologist, but your lameness has tripped a circuit in my head. GET A FSCKING CLUE!
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hi mr. chaos I signed your guestbook.
before you have the eat attack, i did sign it from a windows machine. windows are the BEST!
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awww, I didn't mean to imply you were female (or male) as I would imagine your uid stands for "I Am Roy".
I just thought your opening line was funny in a beavis and butthead sorta way, only I figured pre-pubescent valley-girls seem more likely to say 'did it' in that oooh-gross way. At least as far as I can tell, with nothing more to go off than my datastore of confused social stereotypes derived from NBC, certain hygeine commercials and field trips to the Starbucks chain of coffee shops...
otherwise, I found your post more or less worthwhile.
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"...I've done it with Debian."
eewwww gross!! LIke totally, Debian is a total, like, GEEK! his eyeglasses even smell bad! imroy like totally has geek cooties now, I'm soooo sure!
or maybe as a bumper sticker?
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umm, I think signal 11 is no yuppie. couldn't post that much and hold a job.
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he's either the idle rich or a welfare recipient or one hellishly bad employee...
Temple of Tech and welfare, you ask?!!? well, he didn't say high tech, did he? I am picturing 386's, circa '77 adding machines, a beta max, etc.
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well, there are only lame approximations (like sortable collumns in various graphical file managers) that I can offer up here in specific response, But I was really just reacting to the claim that ther hasn't been crap since 1972.
For what it's worth, I think OLE can hold a candle to the pipe character, in the sense that it is a major leap forward in UI.
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you are grasping at straws. nobody is going to attain "commercial success" until there are some standards in place.
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yes there is. It's called drag and drop.
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back in the early 90's I was a bill collector for 900 and 976 phone sex companies. we represented several of those co's, and it was common knowledge that they'd gouge the prices like this, usually with a $2.99/minute ad, and $2.99 a minute front end msg, then a disclaimer 'subject to change', then the menu of chat rooms, then the addendum latest price of $4.99/minute (which was the maximum allowable price). Hundreds of phone sex lines followed this practice, and suckered them in by the 10,000's.
It gets worse, see. First, usage of the service automatically signed you up for a credit account, and half the charges were applied to that account, to obfuscate the scam. nearly everyone was shocked to recieve a bill from the phone sex company, some paid withouta peep, others tried to complain in vain.
Also, early on it was realized that there was enormous latitude in the collection process, with the outfit I was involved in acting as a 'first party' collection agency to circumvent normal FTC regulations, plus the looming threat of exposure to friends and family and reportings to Trans Union and TRW.
I was young and impressionable, this activity was all couched in phrases that suggested legitimacy and legality, but once I realized the full extent of the evil, I fled forthwith. These guys are bad, bad people. My prediction is that they will pull a stunt like the one mentioned in 'Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels' and send refund checks with an account name like 'Dildo Lovin' Ass Sluts Incorporated', which nobody in they're right mind will cash. Toooooo sad...
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As a member of the ICANN at large voting body, I am a little concerned that our time is being wasted even considering it, if what I think is true: Open source software is and will always be little better than a hobby for the disaffected programmer set.
I think most of us have already heard the lucid arguments for or against advocating OSS, but the facts still stand that:
Open source projects advance at a sloth's pace and are rife with buggy, half finished projects, endless beta cycles, and a lack of culpability
Most projects are hardly useful for professional needs like graphics, modelling rendering, video and film editing, even word processing. (except for a few examples like Apache)
The entire movement is undisciplined and unfocussed like a biker gang, whereas it should start putting out software like a crack squad of navy seals if it wants to garner respect. That includes being recognized with special status like a unique TLD.
I know most of you will think of this as flamebait, but I really don't think the FSF has any accomplishments worthy of such a request. And I am a voting member at ICANN. So unless some of you can sing a convincing song to me, you know where my vote lies. Not that these TLD decisions will come up in earnest for another year or so.
sorry. MS licenses 1000's of things, from codecs to entire video games. And they don't just buy any company they like, especially hardware. I don't want to discourage you from posting, it's good that you want to participate, but you are so clueless here you'd better sit back and soak up some knowledge. I'm afraid you've fallen victim to linux zealot FUD on this one.
it isn't the easiest thing to troll an AC. thanks for responding.
my first was actually my dad's first, a timex sinclair that booted up to some assembly interpreter. It had grainy black and white ntsc output, had a membrane keyboard and would have been able to fit inside my current computers case with the cover on! It was just terrible though.
We returned it and got a TI/994a a while later. I quickly monopolized the 99, and moved it into my bedroom. To get the full effect for Trek, (transcribed from an issue of Compute!) I would dim the lights, turn on a blacklight and wear my surplus Russian tank pilot goggles. Then I would tweak the text colors all to hell to get the important info to stand out more clearly (klingons!). Surely this is way too geeky, but it is where I developed my keen interest in UI design. Now I do interfaces for video games and make rather good money. And to think, my parents completely discouraged this by making me chop firewood, play outside, do the dishes. From their perspective even watching TV was a better way to spend my time!
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A lot of un-substantiated nay-saying, if you ask me...
Be your own judge here people, take a gander at the calender of events, who's on the board of directors or peruse the fact sheet before jumping to any conclusions.
the problem with just using the reference drivers is that all the extra features on the Asus 6600 deluxe aren't covered in the reference drivers.
So I am often trying the refernce drivers, until the proper asus drivers make the scene. But using the reference drivers renders those special features useless or worse.
As for Linux support, well, yeah right- always a joke. I guess it works fine, but I really play all my games in winXX so I haven't seen the accelerator features and openGL in action. Anyone have comments on that?
Haven't installed BeOS since I got the new card though, so I have to wonder how the support is there. I will look in to it today.
what the hell is wrong with you people? What is all this crap about NSI? The following is taken from the ICANN website.
/. don't have a clue...
The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is the non-profit corporation that was formed to assume responsibility for the IP address space allocation, protocol parameter assignment, domain name system management, and root server system management functions previously performed under U.S. Government contract by IANA and other entities.
As you can clearly see by even this little snippet, ICANN hass been charged with the responsibilities of administration for DNS. Other Entities (mere registrars like NSI) may facilitate the system, but ICANN is where registrars go to get their license, where the vote on new tLD's will be held, where decisions about the future of the internet are being made. You lousy people have problems with the way DNS is run now? join up and frickin vote. There are only a few thousand members, THAT LOW NUMBER OF VOTERS AMPLIFIES YOUR CONTRIBUITION. Thus, real changes can and will be affected by the people with enough sense to join up.
I thought you guys were supposed to be tuned-in and turned on around here... But ICANN gets mentioned in a mere 2 or 3 posts in a discussion about DNS? I guess you are all plain-jane wanabees after all.
As a member of the voting body for ICANN, I am shocked that you guys could be so clueless. I guess my vote will count that much more, if even the editors of
Shame on you, slashdot community!
Hey, Everyone! just get another hotmail account and never look at it. problem solved.
that's good enough for me. my work is finished here. hope you don't lose two points of karma over this. i would feel guilty or something.
...ASUS has atrocious enduser support...
I made the mistake of going Asus for my last upgrade. got their p2b and a GeForce v6600 (both chosen per Tom Pabst's reviews, btw).
As it turns out, the motherboard is ok, if limited, with poor overclocking controls (jumpers under cables) and a mere 3 dimm slots.
But I don't even bother hoping for good video card drivers out of Asus anymore. They designed their own board, with great ntsc and a built in DVD decoder, but the software is for windows and the drivers rarely update, usually 6 mos. behind the reference drivers for win2k. I definately should have gone for one of the reference board models...
HEY IF ANY OF YOU ASUS GUYS ARE OUT THERE, I WANT MY MONEY BACK!
I will pobably go Abit next time. just waitin' on that 815e, baby!
once every decade? Did you upgrade from a 386? Just out of curiousity, what did you upgrade to?
Remember, a troll is not perfect until someone uses their real username... ;)
hmmm, I guess I save the insightful and interesting posts for my straight acount...
I think you need some schooling on just what makes a troll a successful troll.
Glad I could help.