You must not have used any of the Gnome 2 Betas. There is still plenty of work to do on the core system and many, many packages need to ported to the new API.
But otherwise I'm very much looking forward to it.
It really depends on the app. I work all day long with emacs over the net (ckient is 2000 miles from server) and it is quite quick but real widget enabled X apps can be very slow.
I'll second that as far as SVG goes. Icons (for me) resize without any slowdown (667mhz PIII) on Nautilus 1.1.9. On the whole, I feel that the 1.1 branch is faster than any other file manager I've used (on any platform). I look forward to the final Gnome 2.0.
But what you can't do with the cheap intel box is replace those processors and disks while the system is running transparent to the OS(s) running on that machine. If I were to choose, I whould go with the IBM solution. Fewer power requirements, no cable mess, adding or subtracking capacity (whether that be disks or procs or memory or psus) without bringing the anything offline and no need to rent all that rackspace. TCO and flexibility are in IBMs corner here -- if you are serious enough about your application(s) to fork out the dough.
Ah, but what you don't realize is that I'm big fan of MacOS X and most of Apple's line of computers, just not the new iMac. I suppose the point of my original post was that there is nothing new here. To me is seems they just wanted to bring back the cube and teather it to a LCD screen.
In regards to Quicktime. Again, I am a fan. It's just very inconvenient. I don't get a chance to use a computer outside of work that often. And at work I prefer to use and need to use a Linux workstation. I would be all over quicktime if there was a native way to view sorenson encoded videos. Hopefully these issues will be gone when Apple takes a standards based approach.
Actually, I wouldn't tell you at all about KDE, it would be Gnome.:) No seriously, the reason I primarily use Linux on the desktop at home and at work is the applications (and free beer/speech). Emacs, GnuCash, remote X sessions... I haven't found suitable alternatives for other platforms. I know the alternative applications exist but they just don't sit well with me.
>No the IBM doesn't. Watch the videos on the Apple site. The IBM doesn't have the "mobility" of the neck in moving the monitor around.
I would if I could but I have no means to view Quicktimes. If by mobility you mean you can pitch the display side to side I can't see the value in that. If you mean you can rotate, flatten, flip or move vertically, the IBM (and I'll assume other displays) does do all that. Watch the flash movie that IBM has. (and I might add many more platforms can view)
>And the IBM doesn't ship with iDVD, iTunes, iPhoto, and iMovie, nor does it have OS X with
True, monitors seldom come with that sort of software. If anything though I would use the T560 with a PowerMac tower (and yes, the T560 supports DVI) rather than the new IMac.
>Darwin under the hood and Apache ready to be launched. This new iMac will add the best of both worlds, the *nix and the GUI/Applications needs.
No doubt.
> Too many Linux users live in their own little world. Have a good friend who bought a TiBook and runs nothing but Mandrake on it, getting ready to add OS X. Name of the game is partitions. Run Mac OS 9, OS X, the Darwin *nix (including X Windows), and your favorite flavor of Linux. The drive in these new puppies is big enough for all four.
Rebooting to run different apps is over rated. But this is really off topic.
Sendmail just released a new product not so long ago which fits your bill perfectly. Sendmail Advanced Message Server. It's priced at $3/mailbox. I bought it myself (well, the company actually) but haven't had the time to upgrade our mail server yet.
I did that while I worked for the University. Check out:
http://ScienceVIEW.Berkeley.EDU/view/
It looks as though it has fallen into disrepair since I left. It took several months of photos (one minute interval) before it died. Kodak DC240, transfered via USB with gphoto, a cron job and a bit of help from perl. So, if gphoto supports your Elph than everything should be fairly simple.
The relevant code:
my $gphoto_text = `$gphoto -p/timelapse/$mon-$mday-$year/$time.jpg`;
$gphoto_text =~/\(\#\s(\d+)\)/;
`$gphoto -d $1`;
> First off, *do not use mailman*. This is easily the worst mailing list software you can find. It mails passwords, clear text, monthly. I think gnu mailmain is even two steps
worse than majordomo, which is hard to complish.
Hardly. Mailman is lightyears ahead of majordomo. If you don't want the passwords mailed every month simply disable it with mailman's very easy to use admin tools.
Get over it. I get pretty tired of people complaining about per port fees paid to Apple. There is a very simple way of avoiding them, call it "1394", call it "i.link" or call it "Bob, my fast thin friend". Apple's fees are a pretty poor excuse not to use FireWire. It's an open standard and it works, it works fast, and it works fast now.
Agreed. I bought my first machine [that I haven't built myself since the 80's] from them a few months ago. I've NEVER had a machine so rock solid. Construction is top notch, never crashed, all cables neatly aranged (something I've never taken the time to do) and I couldn't beat the price building it from parts. I have however had a chance to interact with their support staff. They seem to be very knowledgable and supported me some kernel patch issues on RedHat (at which point in time they did not provide as a BTO option). BTW, I got a C200A (2xPIII, Tiger 133). Awesome.
At work I've purchased 3 high end 2U servers from VA. The computers are top notch but VA failed to support an apache misconfiguration (httpd.conf file from their apache rpm was flawed). Not such a good value either.
I would say that the resolution that consumer grade GPS provides is more than enough to allow an ICBM with a nuclear bomb to be more than effective. The GPS drift that the consumer devices are subject to is much more likely there to help prevent accurate conventional weapon attacks.
Gnome isn't the slow one, E is. E just tries to do stuff that it doesn't need to do. It's a filemanager for god's sake, why does it need a file manager? Anyway, sawmill is lean without sacrificing extensibility.
It's not about protecting the young people from cOMDEX, it's about protecting COMDEX from the young people. Although I don't 100% agree, I can understand that COMDEX is aimed at a very professional crowd (and it's priced to reflect that) and 133t 15 year olds don't exactly scream professional. This specific case (of the 17yo CTO) should obviously be an exception.
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You must not have used any of the Gnome 2 Betas. There is still plenty of work to do on the core system and many, many packages need to ported to the new API. But otherwise I'm very much looking forward to it.
It really depends on the app. I work all day long with emacs over the net (ckient is 2000 miles from server) and it is quite quick but real widget enabled X apps can be very slow.
I'll second that as far as SVG goes. Icons (for me) resize without any slowdown (667mhz PIII) on Nautilus 1.1.9. On the whole, I feel that the 1.1 branch is faster than any other file manager I've used (on any platform). I look forward to the final Gnome 2.0.
But what you can't do with the cheap intel box is replace those processors and disks while the system is running transparent to the OS(s) running on that machine. If I were to choose, I whould go with the IBM solution. Fewer power requirements, no cable mess, adding or subtracking capacity (whether that be disks or procs or memory or psus) without bringing the anything offline and no need to rent all that rackspace. TCO and flexibility are in IBMs corner here -- if you are serious enough about your application(s) to fork out the dough.
Since when were the good people at Slashdot journalists? They provide links and occasionally some editorial comments, nothing more.
Ah, but what you don't realize is that I'm big fan of MacOS X and most of Apple's line of computers, just not the new iMac. I suppose the point of my original post was that there is nothing new here. To me is seems they just wanted to bring back the cube and teather it to a LCD screen.
:) No seriously, the reason I primarily use Linux on the desktop at home and at work is the applications (and free beer/speech). Emacs, GnuCash, remote X sessions... I haven't found suitable alternatives for other platforms. I know the alternative applications exist but they just don't sit well with me.
In regards to Quicktime. Again, I am a fan. It's just very inconvenient. I don't get a chance to use a computer outside of work that often. And at work I prefer to use and need to use a Linux workstation. I would be all over quicktime if there was a native way to view sorenson encoded videos. Hopefully these issues will be gone when Apple takes a standards based approach.
Actually, I wouldn't tell you at all about KDE, it would be Gnome.
>No the IBM doesn't. Watch the videos on the Apple site. The IBM doesn't have the "mobility" of the neck in moving the monitor around.
:-)
I would if I could but I have no means to view Quicktimes. If by mobility you mean you can pitch the display side to side I can't see the value in that. If you mean you can rotate, flatten, flip or move vertically, the IBM (and I'll assume other displays) does do all that. Watch the flash movie that IBM has. (and I might add many more platforms can view)
>And the IBM doesn't ship with iDVD, iTunes, iPhoto, and iMovie, nor does it have OS X with
True, monitors seldom come with that sort of software. If anything though I would use the T560 with a PowerMac tower (and yes, the T560 supports DVI) rather than the new IMac.
>Darwin under the hood and Apache ready to be launched. This new iMac will add the best of both worlds, the *nix and the GUI/Applications needs.
No doubt.
> Too many Linux users live in their own little world. Have a good friend who bought a TiBook and runs nothing but Mandrake on it, getting ready to add OS X. Name of the game is partitions. Run Mac OS 9, OS X, the Darwin *nix (including X Windows), and your favorite flavor of Linux. The drive in these new puppies is big enough for all four.
Rebooting to run different apps is over rated. But this is really off topic.
> And say goodbye to Microsoft forever.
I did several years ago.
As far as the tilting and rotating goes my new IBM T560 does all of that.
That's how I upgraded my Dell 333P (33mhz 386) to a 486 33Mhz. That has to pre-date the StarMax hack by a few years.
http://parisc-linux.org
I run Linux 2.4.16 on my 4-proc HP9000/K410. Runs rather well too.
When will I get Ximian gnome for hppa-linux? Not that I even bothered to install X on that machine.
UCLA is a state school and quite affordable.
Thanks for the update! SF and SF2 were probably my favorite games of all time.
Sendmail just released a new product not so long ago which fits your bill perfectly. Sendmail Advanced Message Server. It's priced at $3/mailbox. I bought it myself (well, the company actually) but haven't had the time to upgrade our mail server yet.
Wasn't it AUX?
An optical mouse was standard on my PC Jr in 1985.... go figure.
Turn off the flash!
I did that while I worked for the University. Check out:
/timelapse/$mon-$mday-$year/$time.jpg`;
/\(\#\s(\d+)\)/;
http://ScienceVIEW.Berkeley.EDU/view/
It looks as though it has fallen into disrepair since I left. It took several months of photos (one minute interval) before it died. Kodak DC240, transfered via USB with gphoto, a cron job and a bit of help from perl. So, if gphoto supports your Elph than everything should be fairly simple.
The relevant code:
my $gphoto_text = `$gphoto -p
$gphoto_text =~
`$gphoto -d $1`;
According to http://www.debian.org/ports/ there is no ia64 port. I would doubt Slackware has one either.
> First off, *do not use mailman*. This is easily the worst mailing list software you can find. It mails passwords, clear text, monthly. I think gnu mailmain is even two steps worse than majordomo, which is hard to complish. Hardly. Mailman is lightyears ahead of majordomo. If you don't want the passwords mailed every month simply disable it with mailman's very easy to use admin tools.
Get over it. I get pretty tired of people complaining about per port fees paid to Apple. There is a very simple way of avoiding them, call it "1394", call it "i.link" or call it "Bob, my fast thin friend". Apple's fees are a pretty poor excuse not to use FireWire. It's an open standard and it works, it works fast, and it works fast now.
Agreed. I bought my first machine [that I haven't built myself since the 80's] from them a few months ago. I've NEVER had a machine so rock solid. Construction is top notch, never crashed, all cables neatly aranged (something I've never taken the time to do) and I couldn't beat the price building it from parts. I have however had a chance to interact with their support staff. They seem to be very knowledgable and supported me some kernel patch issues on RedHat (at which point in time they did not provide as a BTO option). BTW, I got a C200A (2xPIII, Tiger 133). Awesome.
At work I've purchased 3 high end 2U servers from VA. The computers are top notch but VA failed to support an apache misconfiguration (httpd.conf file from their apache rpm was flawed). Not such a good value either.
I would say that the resolution that consumer grade GPS provides is more than enough to allow an ICBM with a nuclear bomb to be more than effective. The GPS drift that the consumer devices are subject to is much more likely there to help prevent accurate conventional weapon attacks.
Gnome isn't the slow one, E is. E just tries to do stuff that it doesn't need to do. It's a filemanager for god's sake, why does it need a file manager? Anyway, sawmill is lean without sacrificing extensibility.
It's not about protecting the young people from cOMDEX, it's about protecting COMDEX from the young people. Although I don't 100% agree, I can understand that COMDEX is aimed at a very professional crowd (and it's priced to reflect that) and 133t 15 year olds don't exactly scream professional. This specific case (of the 17yo CTO) should obviously be an exception.
What does COMDEX have to do with inovation?